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Jun 29, 2014 2:22 PM

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Lvhina said:
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Am I the only person to start to NOT like Haruhi at all?
She's incredibly selfish what an unreasonable woman...


LOL exact opposite of me, i've not like kyon for a while lol
Same here
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Jul 11, 2014 7:55 AM

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why the hate on Kyon? he's just concern on how Mikuru is treated...if you were in here place..would you like to be treated as a toy? He's just pointing out to her...that there a limit to everything...I don't mind from the previous episode and from the previous season that she's pushy, bossy and a bit annoying, but her what she is doing is too much...but if she goes on like that..she'll be an asshole for the rest of her life... Kyon just wants her to be considerate a little bit...if she doesn't realize this...this will make her a dis-likable character to the end...I was expecting Haruhi to apologize to Kyon for her behavior at the end, nothing happened...i guess she is a narcissist after all... Kyon was the one who approach her, it's like he was the one to apologize...meh..nevermind...that was lame....
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Jul 15, 2014 3:57 PM

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To defend her, she IS God so she doesn't really know it but things have been going her way just because she wished for it.

From what i understood (forgot some info) the reason they are making a movie is because she wanted this weird group together, so she probably wanted a "toy" and it just happened.

But yeah she is selfish.
Sep 2, 2014 4:56 AM

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"Taniguchi, you bastard! Thanks to you I've realized something, and I'm not happy about it!"

lol

Anyway, the drama in this episode was WAY overblown. The scene Tsuruya's house was somewhat understandable; Haruhi was legitimately going crazy and had been mistreating Mikuru for awhile. I would've gotten pissed too, though Kyon almost knocking her ass out was most certainly extreme. However, that scene at the lake was dumb as bricks. Why so much drama just because Mikuru needs to fall into the lake for a movie scene? It wasn't even remotely a big deal.

Anyway, despite the overblown drama, this was definitely the most engaging episode of the season since episode 3.

I also noticed I'm a good bit like Kyon. Always grumbling and bitching inside my head, but kind of leaving it exclusively instead my head.



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Oct 27, 2014 11:34 AM

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I would have dropped this show at this point if I wasn't almost done. I'm fucking done. The abuse on Mikuru since the first season has always bothered me (especially her to wear slutty cosplay outfits without her consent) and now it's just gone too far.

How do people hate Kyon? He's just being realistic.

Let's just rename this show to "The Bitchiness of Haruhi Suzumiya".
Dec 12, 2014 11:40 AM

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good job kyon

Haruhi was so boring .boss my ass

Jan 19, 2015 2:45 PM

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this episode just made me really dislike haruhi. What a bitch, seriously. She deserved to get slapped.
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Jan 21, 2015 3:08 PM

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mayukachan said:
I would have dropped this show at this point if I wasn't almost done. I'm fucking done. The abuse on Mikuru since the first season has always bothered me (especially her to wear slutty cosplay outfits without her consent) and now it's just gone too far.

How do people hate Kyon? He's just being realistic.

Let's just rename this show to "The Bitchiness of Haruhi Suzumiya".


Yes, that's what it is. Haruhi's probably the most cringeworthy character I've ever had the displeasure to see in an anime. Not a punch, that's too much, but a humiliating slap on that egocentric face would have been nice to see.
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Jan 27, 2015 9:30 PM

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damn I must be watching this show in chrono instead of aired order b/c the episodes i watched the numbers aren't corresponding to the ones on the forum xD (I'm supposedly on episode 9/14 but this thread says the episode is ep 13/14)

Well whatever thats the order that it was labeled where I watched it so I said to hell with it and just follow the numbers already there.

I originally decided to watch this show because its so famous and so many rave reviews of it (I watched Neon Genesis Evangelion and Cowboy Bebeop for simular reasons).

But anway, yeah, Haruhi has been very bitchy and controlling most of the anime. I don't like her much at all, its odd that so many people were raving about how unique and awesome she is when I first started considering watching this show .. guess its a matter of personal opinion.

I've liked Kyon a good bit, but the other characters and most of this anime are fairly forgettable in my opinion. Not nessesarily "bad" but nothing that great either, especially in light of the glowing esteem much of the anime community holds this show up to be.
Mar 19, 2015 11:32 PM

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Haruhi was almost slapped by Kyon, HAHAHA..
I laughed when Koizumi and Asahina nearly kissed each other. HAHAHA.
May 2, 2015 4:09 AM

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Haruhi is a tyrant in this episode. Seriously, giving Asahina alcohol, hitting her consecutively, throwing her in a lake, calling her a toy... that's way too much. Sorta made me hate her in this episode, but nonetheless, she's still an interesting character.

I like what Kyon was trying to do, make her learn a lesson, but i disagree to physical abuse.
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May 6, 2015 2:27 PM

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So happy to see Kyon finally sticking up for Mikuru.
Drugging Mikuru and then calling her a toy for her to use was going way too far.
May 8, 2015 3:09 PM
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GodotCoffee said:
This episode was a very interesting take on things. I think the intention was to make the viewer dislike Haruhi. And wow what a great husband Kyon would make. Domestic abuser...

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Well, it all makes sense once you realize Haruhi's constant mistreatment of Mikuru stems from jealousy, hence Kyon is partly to blame.


That's a great way of thinking my friend, makes perfect sense!


Domestic abuser? Yea right. Some women are horrible people and take those protections they receive too far. Haruhi has always been a selfish and arrogant little sociopath.And if someone was doing that crap to my friend,we would have a problem no matter the gender.
May 10, 2015 4:14 PM

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Anyone noticed that when Kyon busted through the door Haruhi was holding her hair in a ponytail? Good touch.
One of my favorite moments in the series. Haruhi thought she wanted everything, but realized it was all pointless if she didn't have Kyon. She's in no hurry to make their relationship romantic, but when she thinks she's about to lose him, that's her last ditch effort. The movie, the Brigade, aliens, time-travelers, espers... none of it matters without Kyon. So get the ponytail going, girl, and hold on to Kyon any way you can. That's what that scene means.


That is exactly what I thought. I am glad another person thinks this way : )

Very dramatic episode anyway, but I like it.
Aug 2, 2015 5:02 PM

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The extremely slow, tiring pace in following them solve every technicality about making that stupid movie from the first season after all that Endless Eight stuff? Haruhi DRUGGING a character so she can film someone taking advantage of them because they wouldn't otherwise agree to do the scene? Kyon literally wanting to beat her up for it?

Are they basically doing that Neon Genesis Evangelion thing with the show?
Sep 20, 2015 2:34 AM

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Lol, I couldn't stand Haruhi in this episode either. In the end I guess Kyon should just learn to feel better about kissing her, lol.
Oct 1, 2015 8:44 PM
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Fantastic, brimming-with-cosmic-undertones tension between Kyon and Haruhi-Sama here - show outdid itself here.
Dec 6, 2015 8:50 PM
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Surprised so many people in this thread don't realize that a slap can be worse than a punch. Also - it's hard not to wince when reading all these "boys should not hit girls" in today's world. Equality means equality, so please do everyone a favor - don't set our progress back 50 years.

Also - Haruhi is a bitch in Sigh, contrary to people objecting, because that's exactly author's intent in Sigh, to teach her (and the readers) the lesson that people cannot act without bounds.


People also seem to have challenge understanding that just because a character pisses you off, it doesn't make that's a bad character. On the contrary, characters that generates emotions, whether good or bad, are good characters. She's on my fav list precisely due to every facet of her, including her bitchiness.

Excellent tension in this episode. 5/5.
Jan 30, 2016 2:12 PM

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The best Haruhi episode so far, and one of the greatest in anime if you'd ask me. Not much was actually said outright, but it told you so much about the relationship between Kyon and Haruhi.

I was genuinely shocked when he was about to hit her, and quite sad to see how shocked Haruhi was as well. Unlike some, I don't think he should have. She was a downright bitch, but trying to hit her said more about him than about her.

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so...the ponytail that kyon was talking in the last episode of the first season, the one i always wondered what was he talking about was in this episode
Haruhi did have ponytail the next day after Kyon told her about it. And on another occasion during the baseball match, Haruhi wanted to try ponytail on Mikuru but decided not to do so because she remembered Kyon likes that ;-)


Actually the last episode of season one took place before this one. Haruhi about to make a ponytail in this episode was to show that she wanted to get Kyon to look at her again, but he beat her to it and "apologized".
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He disobeyed her (which Haruhi that he would never do because he supported her since the SOS was created) and you could also say it was a sign of Kyon being jealous of the kiss. Which he probably was and Haruhi probably figured that out.
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True, but most off all though, I think Haruhi was really upset about how he undermined her jealousy. He's identified her flaw even though he probably doesn't realize it's jealousy because of himself.
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Feb 21, 2016 10:23 PM

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[Watching in broadcast order]

Yuki just casually breaking the fence ... LOL
Haruhi trying to make a ponytail to get Kyon to notice her again.
Sure Haruhi was out of bounds but I think this was a great example of amazing well written characters.
Apr 28, 2016 1:00 PM

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First episode Haruhi really pissed me off.

She would've had that hit coming to her.
Aug 27, 2016 8:21 AM

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Sagittarius Day

HOLY!!! Yuki is Godly awesome!! She is the master of hacking, LOL. She is now the best chara in this show.

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Sep 28, 2016 4:28 AM

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Lol at people hating on Kyon instead of Haruhi.

WTH people?! She's literally abusing her! Especially what happened in that room, made her drunk and was forced into a "love" scene and then proceeds to hitting her on her head as "practice".. Just WTH?! (Let's not forget about throwing her in that lake)
Jun 9, 2017 6:48 AM

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LET'S SEE YOU GRIT THOSE TEETH!

WHALLOP!

Sorry.

But really. Whilst I'm interested to see where the movie goes and The disappearance of Nagato sounds ok, I am glad I'm about done with this series as a whole.
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Jun 24, 2017 11:17 AM

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I wish Haruhi died. She is just sadistic bitch who doesn't deserve any friends especially such nice people like Asahina.
Jun 26, 2017 7:05 PM
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I wish Kyon had TKO'd the bitch.
Aug 17, 2017 5:52 AM

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All hail the power of queen Yuki. Your hacking skills fail before her.
Oct 6, 2017 6:31 AM

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Holy fuck I SERIOUSLY hate this bitch. Throwing Asahina into the lake was already too far, what happened after continued to break something inside of me. Literally was curling my toes +frowning a good few seconds before Kyon even started clenching his fist.
This is not how I like to feel when watching something 😡

I feel like this whole season was made to trigger the audience(which it is doing very well in); honestly not sure why the story had to go down this route.
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Oct 31, 2017 2:19 PM

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Man, that was pretty intense. Harui was getting very annoying, but going straight for a punch wasn't right either. xD
Dec 27, 2017 5:27 PM

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That flying kick was inspired!

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Jan 3, 2018 10:55 AM

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Wow... what an episode. I can't tell if it was great or it was something else...
This episode showed fundamental flaws in most of the characters all of a sudden.

Nagato overlooked things. Koizumi tries to hard. Taniguchi, well, he's just flawed. Mikuru is too willing to do things. Tsuruya thinking everything is a joke.

And especially our two mains, Kyon and Haruhi. Haruhi's flaws were always there, and I don't think she isn't any more wrong-fully minded as she was before. Kyon... just in a general bad mood, would've actually resorted to physical violence...? I didn't quite expect that... I did notice over this arc Kyon has started to say things that are more offensive, but I wonder what will go from there...

But it's just as Haruhi says - realism in fiction - Kyon and Haruhi and everyone else I mentioned are just... teenagers. And the solution to their argument, is where Kyon realises he's just as bad as he makes Taniguchi to be, realising he is a hypocrite... Realism in fiction.


What's more surprising is that all of this occurred during production of the movie in broadcast order episode 1 - when I realised it I was quite surprised at the behind-the-scenes development.

Elsewhere, I liked the attention to detail - in the clubroom Haruhi was trying to put on a ponytail. It just goes to confirm that on the inside, Haruhi does have some feelings towards Kyon. (I didn't really pick that up before...)
May 12, 2018 9:59 AM

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I want to kill that bitch.......
Apr 28, 2019 8:37 PM
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Kyon in this ep is literally me whenever Haruhi bullies someone. Haruhi is a fucking annoying and selfish bitch. I don't get it. Why can anyone find her character interesting or even like her character? Go. To. Hell. Haruhi.
May 17, 2019 3:15 PM

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Haruhi's sexual abuse has now turned to physical abuse. Despite this, she's the 52nd most favorited character on MAL.
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May 20, 2019 7:36 AM

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How can I enjoy watching a spoiled brat doing and saying whatever she pleases?
Ugh, annoying.
May 27, 2019 11:06 AM
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Okay, I don't like violence but man, am I with Kyon on this one. Haruhi has been a complete brat this whole season, she deserved to be lectured, well, not really a lecture, and punched too. I can't imagine anyone willing to be around such a jerkass.
Aug 19, 2019 1:12 PM
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What Haruhi did was really bad and illegal as well. I don’t condone punching her though. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Jan 30, 2020 5:39 AM

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This is the first episode where I feel genuine frustration towards Haruhi. She's really pushy, yes, but this is the first time that I was really angry at how she treated Mikuru. It's like she's abusing her, not respecting her as a human being but more like a dog, or as she said, a toy. Maybe violence was uncalled for, but the very act of almost hitting her seems to have snapped Haruhi, showing her that what she did was really unacceptable to Kyon.

I would've liked it better if she learnt something here. She might have powers like that but that doesn't mean she doesn't need to learn to be a decent human being. I wish Kyon would've said something to her, because even though she doesn't listen, I feel like Kyon is the only person she'll seriously listen to. I mean, she felt dejected that he snapped, not angry. And when Kyon entered the room, she was trying out a ponytail again, something Kyon once said he liked on her. Haruhi likes Kyon, I think.

But anyway, awesome episode! One of the best.
Apr 11, 2020 5:46 AM

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The mental gymnastic of the people defending Haruhi in this thread.... lmao
Apr 17, 2020 1:26 AM

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This was an interesting episode. I think one of the most memorable scenes is, of course, when Asahina is tipsy and Kyon is about to punch Haruhi. It really goes to show how careless and oblivious Haruhi is.

I found the part where Kyon realizes that he's acting no different from Taniguchi interesting, and where he went to tell Haruhi to continue the movie. Although it did piss me off how quickly she goes back to her normal stuck-up self, I think we can agree this move was necessary for the sake of, well, the universe.

Slightly off-topic, but this still sort of connects:

Just for reference, I'm watching in chronological order, so after episode 14 (or 24, chronologically), I would be watching, in order: Asahina's adventures, Live Alive, The Day of Sagittarius, Someday In The Rain (which are all from the first season) and then the movie.

Although there aren't many episodes left, I am wondering if in the movie they'll be any character development from Haruhi, considering how in this episode it just goes to show how power can get to her mind. I would say she has a god complex, although, in a sense, I guess she is kind of a goddess.

I'm getting off-topic here - regardless, very interesting episode, that angered me just a little because of Haruhi's behaviour.
Jun 18, 2020 6:31 PM

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Finally, a great episode of the Sigh!!!!

And awwwwwwwwww, Haruhi with the ponytail so Kyon can be nice to her again, awwwwww
Sep 1, 2020 1:07 AM

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For me her behaviour is very god-like -- in a Greek, not Japanese or Christian fashion.

I love the theme of balance. We sure are tipping at the edge of an abyss, as Koizumi said in the very first arc, when every change of mood can trigger unconscious reality warping.

I wonder how would the people who say Haruhi deserves a spanking would react if they were there, I mean, dealing with an overpowered entity that could kill you unconsciously.

Now imagine how this can be a metaphor for when we have to deal with our actual bosses in real life, or for that matter anyone with real power over us.
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Feb 12, 2021 9:11 PM

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Honestly season 2 was quite a downgrade from season 1 , This episode made me dislike Haruhi. Humilliaties her “friend” , wants to throw her into dirty water(Even if she accepts , You wouldn’t let that happen as a corcened friend) , Gets her drunk so she can do some acts with some dude , hits her. Who wants a friend like that? Put your yourself in Kyon’s shoes and you see your friend doing that to another friend , If you don’t get mad , You’re not a true friend. All of that from her jealousy , she doesn’t even apologize like Tsuruya , she probably thinks she did nothing wrong and Kyon goes back like a faithful dog , Gotta keep series running after all. I don’t get why people blame the victim Asahina , She clearly cannot refuse for obvious reasons

This thread is so disgusting filled with whiteknights. Waifu can do no wrong , I don’t mind if you like a bitch character , But don’t find excuses for all her actions. Recognize her flaws
Mar 17, 2021 7:38 PM

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This episode was "The Day of Sagittarius" for me.

This was quite entertaining. Showing them in a space opera setting was pretty cool, especially seeing Haruhi in a tight miniskirt! They almost lost, due to the computer club cheating, but Yuki figured them out, and rewrote the game.

May 12, 2021 8:38 PM

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Space battle episode- what a lovely one off story. Reminded me why I've loved this series so much.
May 18, 2021 9:58 AM
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Im starting to dislike suzumiya ngl
Jul 28, 2021 1:01 AM

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[chronological order]

Nice episode. Now we finally get to see where that meme came from (Nagato typing).


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Jul 30, 2021 2:09 PM

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LOL that typing scene was cute and funny. There was no way that the SOS were gonna lose when a super hacker is on their side. Fun episode overall and I'm sad the next one is the last



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Well things certainly got out of hands this time, with Kyon losing his cool on Haruhi. Can't blame him though as Haruhi indeed was in wrong there, asserting Mikuru to do those things.
Feb 1, 2022 5:16 PM

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am i the only person who would prefer kyon hit haruhi? not because i dislike her (i actually kinda like her crisma) but to see what would happen to the world. lol

best episode so far, it almost felt like a movie.
i'm waiting i want more weird things to happen along the filming.

kyon x haruhi's relationship are good, this episode showed that a lot.
though haruhi supposed to be good kami. lol
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