| Not this again. Goddammit SOPA when will you learn? |
| They're also pushing SOPA level controls in the Trans-Pacific Partnership. |
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| im against it, the internet should remain neutral but then again the internet is serious business for the businessman and politicians |
| You know they would stop eventually if you threaten the corporations with boycotts. Pirated material actually gains money for them since when people see/hear something they pass that info on to others who have the money to pay. Boycotting generates no money whatsoever. This threat has to be vocalized somehow or else they will just assume its from pirated material they are losing money rather than boycott. Make sure they know its a big "fuck you" to them. |
| Most people understand when to give up, then there's some people that just need a good old fashioned beating. I say we construct a tebuchet made out of unlicensed Anime and call in the Ukrainian fire wizard. Instead of working with the internet and new technology for a new age they rather just take the whole damn thing and wrap it around outdated rules and practices. This shit getting real old. |
| if i remember right american election is near so vote wisely and never vote for politicians that favor SOPA |
| check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRx9Q4IFHI |
| lol, you serious SOPA didn't get through last time, it sure as hell won't this time |
Cyaegha said: lol, you serious SOPA didn't get through last time, it sure as hell won't this time Depends how much Gold and Security is offerd for most laws to pass, or how far one can distort the truth or pull google and MS in with it. |
| As long as we're aware and informed, I'm sure this won't pass. ...Right? |
| Welp, time to bring out the protest signs. No way the internet is gonna just let this slip unless the SOPA congress uses the "Power of Cash" to bribe officials (Which they have been doing for YEARS). If this passes, we're seeing rebellion. Hell, we'll see war. |
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MagicalMahou said: Welp, time to bring out the protest signs. No way the internet is gonna just let this slip unless the SOPA congress uses the "Power of Cash" to bribe officials (Which they have been doing for YEARS). If this passes, we're seeing rebellion. Hell, we'll see war. Lol. People will bitch, then whine, then take it up the ass. Europeans and Americans seem to have grown accustomed to bending over for public officals. I mean look at the NSA leaks. That should have lead to open rebellion in the US and Europe should have killed all diplomatic ties with America. In place they make a bit of noise, scream about freedoms. Then in the US a few buy guns and wait to shoot the gubberment when they come to take your rights. They already have taken them and a it will be a hellfire missile or PMC that will be kicking in the doors. And you really think people will rise up over the internet? More so given those that will be hurt by it most have next to no social life, orginizational skills, or knowladge on how to fight a war outside of Starcraft? The popular culture has worked long and hard making a devided apathetic populance, and its done the job quite skillfully. To the point the people won't rise up even if you shot viagra into them. |
| I'm not for it, I can't see how anyone in their right mind would be for it, and I cannot take it seriously. |
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| Jesus Christ |
| Hollywood will keep losing. Such gluttons for punishment, when will they ever learn. |
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Korrvo said: I'm not for it, I can't see how anyone in their right mind would be for it, and I cannot take it seriously. I don't blame you but the fact is more and more governments are going "Holy shit this allows people to learn what we are up to, can't have that." I mean look at the NSA leaks, if not for the internet, would any of that be known for the most? The bigger problem is that the people that provide the money have it in their minds, that if you stop all the download'n then people have no choice but to buy the product they are selling or do without. The net is also a HUGE market for them to push in. One that has largely profited small fry's. Something the Megacorps do not, and cannot like. And the biggest problem of all is a great many people arn't in the right mind. |
BeyondNero said: MellowJello said: As long as we're aware and informed, I'm sure this won't pass. ...Right? Did any one actually read what is in there, This is not a bill to be past, or a bill anyway, these are "voluntary agreements between copyright holders and payment processors/advertisers. " that means we are fucked this time, no need for a bill, with every company comes in it will get worse. Bottom line there isn't much to be done unless we can take some of these people out of it, hence the petition. Which won't do a bit of damn good. Capitalism ho! |
| On that note, the EU member states and the Asians allied to the US might want to pay attention to politics. Versions of this are being tacked on to trade deals with the US giving the US authority on such matters. Its not just a American problem anymore. They lost in the courts, so now they take it to where it hurts, the wallet. |
| We stood up and fought before. We can do it again. |
| We are the Keepers of the Chair. Within each of us flows his blood but more importantly his soul! |
| Would never happen. SOPA has been trying. But will never pass. |
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| Did both of you ignore what op's saying? Its not going to the courts anywhere. Its being bum rushed with trade deals and mutual agreement. IE Zero accountability or legal involvement. |
JD2411 said: Really would not call it freedom.So glad I live in Europe, where we actually have freedom |
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| For fucks sake -.- |
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JD2411 said: So glad I live in Europe, where we actually have freedom Been to the Pirate Bay lately? |
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| Damn, what pests. And some people thinking it's about protecting the artists... yeah right, those guys don't give a crap about them; they're just thinking about themselves. |
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| This is the reason why i voted for the Pirate party two years ago and i will be doing that again during next elections. And i think this definitely concerns us Europeans as well as some other users pointed out in this thread European and Asian countries are working on similar laws. And if the SOPA succeeds it's certain there will be a bigger strain on other countries to put similar laws into practice. Just looking at the link to the White house page in the OP, this law looks a lot worse then i thought it would be. I think it's not only a serious thread to freedom but a violation of Human rights. It doesn't only apply to streamed copyrighted material but also to fan art and fan fiction, laws like this need to be stopped at all costs. And i think not just Americans should try to stop laws like this but also people from other countries. |
| The war against SOPA shall begin once again! This bill is complete BS... it's an international concern so it's not just the Americans who are receiving the short end of the stick. |
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| I still say the boycott I mentioned would do the trick. Its just a matter of figuring out how to make them know you are boycotting them and why. BatoKusanagi said: Some artists give away some of their music for free or just releases it on torrent sites secretly themselves then the record label they are under tries to press charges on people despite the artists permissions. So that does prove that.Damn, what pests. And some people thinking it's about protecting the artists... yeah right, those guys don't give a crap about them; they're just thinking about themselves. |
| The problem with a boycott is you will have to target everyone and everything doing this, and that would be quite the feat. It amounts to what some Americans or Europeans say "Lets not work for a whole week and pay no taxes, that'll teach em!" Easy to say, hard to do. |
| WE MUST PROTECT THE RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE FREE WORLD. FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY. AMURICA! am i doin it rite? |
| Do you guys even realize what the original SOPA was? >.> The original SOPA, if passed, would make it so the government could TAKE DOWN any and all websites that had the POTENTIAL of carrying copyright infringing content WITHOUT a trial. Meaning, any and all websites COULD be taken down because any and all websites CAN carry copyright infringing content. Also, this bill would make it so companies like Google, or VISA could not work with or collaborate with websites that are taken down. This had nothing to do with fanfiction and anime and manga and books. It was about the government having the ability to do whatever it wanted with the internet. Also, people don't realize that fan fiction is technically already illegal. If I wrote a story with Harry Potter, Hermonie, and Ron, I CAN BE SUED, even today, by the AUTHOR. Those characters ARE copyrighted. If I have a story that has Luffy from One Piece in it, I CAN be sued. If I upload a video onto facebook or youtube that has a Beyonce song playing in the background, I can be sued. Why? Because it's already ILLEGAL. SOPA would NOT change that. And just saying, most people don't care about fanfiction or the like, that's NOT the target for SOPA. Thinking so, is just ignorant. The reason SOPA failed was because the COMPANIES were against it. Youtube could, if SOPA passed, be taken down immediately and it would never go to trial. Visa and Google would lose a lot of money too. From what I've read about SOPA 2014, is that its voluntary... so I have no clue what companies and corporations will do. Also, I have little clue about SOPA 2014. There's practically no information on it. I tried checking legislation and I didn't see it on there. Anyone here can link me to a reliable source about SOPA 2014? Cause I'm not signing a petition while uninformed >.> |
| Apparently there's three pieces of legislation that the internet is combining and calling SOPA when.... it's legit not SOPA. >.> I had a feeling the government wasn't insane enough to name another legislation after the rage inducing original SOPA :/ |
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| I hope SOPA passes. |
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DarkAngelz said: No you cant if its not something for profit or other commercial use. Also US law allows for parody.Also, people don't realize that fan fiction is technically already illegal. If I wrote a story with Harry Potter, Hermonie, and Ron, I CAN BE SUED, even today, by the AUTHOR. Those characters ARE copyrighted. If I have a story that has Luffy from One Piece in it, I CAN be sued.> |
| Lawyers of corporations owning IP regularly chew and spit out "fair use" laws, so good luck if they decide "nuh-uh". Every author of every piece of fan-fiction, fan-art, etc. is daring a lightning bolt. Only reason it doesn't come is if the original author doesn't know, doesn't care, or is feeling merciful. |
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traed said: DarkAngelz said: No you cant if its not something for profit or other commercial use. Also US law allows for parody.Also, people don't realize that fan fiction is technically already illegal. If I wrote a story with Harry Potter, Hermonie, and Ron, I CAN BE SUED, even today, by the AUTHOR. Those characters ARE copyrighted. If I have a story that has Luffy from One Piece in it, I CAN be sued.> Most fanfics aren't parodies... Actually, even if it isn't for commercial use, it can still be seen as copyright infringement and can be taken down if the author so wants. It depends really, but usually authors don't attack their fans for such a thing. Most authors actually like fanfiction because it speaks of the fanbase. That being said, if the author so chose, most fan fics could be accused of copyright infringement and would then be taken down regardless of commercial aspects. And again, to everyone else here, SOPA 2014 is a figment of the internet's imagination. It is NOT a legislation or title of anything that the government is currently looking for. SOPA 2014 is a hoax. That being said, there are 3 other pieces that are called differently, that government committees are pushing. Again, these 3 pieces are NOT SOPA, but referred to as something else. Signing the 2014 SOPA petition will NOT help. If anything, it will only represent the people's ignorance because IT DOES NOT FREAKING EXIST. There is other work that the internet is labeling as SOPA 2014, but again, that work is NOT SOPA 2014. It is referred to as something else in the eyes of the government >.> |
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