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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- not a bad episode, and gives us some background on arawn |
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| I agree very interesting.This brings deeper meaning to the story line. |
| too bad the episode felt like only 5 mins though.. It suddenly ended at the point where i thought something will still happen.. this is what happens when there are a lot of conversations in an episode (similar to spice and wolf).. though the episode truly is good.. |
| Nice Episode. I don't like Arawn's personality here. What time setting is this, Age of what? Woah I can't wait to see the next episode "Battle mode" |
ZinvyAug 18, 2009 2:06 AM
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| o_o flashbacks ?! somewhat interesting |
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| i stopped watching it a while ago. From 1 to 7 it seemed to have the same repetative feel. I just got fed up. |
| Good episode. Nice to see some flashbacks of Arawn's past. |
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| Shokzman : So... Why you say what in the episode 20 of the series ?XD Good episode. :) |
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| Yeah I don't really know when this is supposed to be. Ogam still looks old, but Pwyll isn't around, and I think that's what's her name. But since they don't even know what fire is I'd think this was before all of the ages they talked about before. Confusing. But I guess after this episode it's kind of clear, or a definite possibility that Arawn was Lucifer and somehow split from him in some weird fashion? |
| Ogam is a dragon - they're ageless I guess .. Pwyll should come right after this .. girl is from his past with Pwyll, yeah .. Arawn = Lucifer |
| whoa, this is getting a bit more interesting than usual. They should have gone through this mythological path way sooner and not waste the 10 first episodes on nothing. And Arawn is Lucifer, I think that's pretty clear.....unless he split into two like noteDhero said.... noteDhero said: Yeah I don't really know when this is supposed to be. Ogam still looks old, but Pwyll isn't around, and I think that's what's her name. But since they don't even know what fire is I'd think this was before all of the ages they talked about before. Confusing. Pwyll is a legendary ELF and I believe like the dragons, the Age of Elves was before the Ice Age. So during the events of this episode, Pwyll is already there, probably allied with Ogam. |
wakka9caAug 18, 2009 2:33 PM
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
ShiroiRyu said: Shokzman : So... Why you say what in the episode 20 of the series ?XD Good episode. :) I don't know :P |
| jeez... did ALL of you miss the fact that this whole episode is what Taleisin is "seeing" from the recorded Lucifer?? The last episode ends when Lucifer is ready to show the "traveller" everything about the world. So this is the flashback from Arawn's past, from when he wasn't even a White Spirit. It shows the beginning of the human race and the truth about the plan of the 11 White Spirits. I actually liked this episode. After such a long time, things are picking up. And I also liked the stubborn, naive character Arawn was till he 'opened his eyes'. Shows his character development. And what he had to go through to achieve his current personality. Yeah. I really liked this episode. :) But somehow.. I find the plot somewhat predictable. |
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Kundalini said: jeez... did ALL of you miss the fact that this whole episode is what Taleisin is "seeing" from the recorded Lucifer?? The last episode ends when Lucifer is ready to show the "traveller" everything about the world. So this is the flashback from Arawn's past, from when he wasn't even a White Spirit. It shows the beginning of the human race and the truth about the plan of the 11 White Spirits. ...so ? |
wakka9ca said: whoa, this is getting a bit more interesting than usual. They should have gone through this mythological path way sooner and not waste the 10 first episodes on nothing. And Arawn is Lucifer, I think that's pretty clear.....unless he split into two like noteDhero said.... noteDhero said: Yeah I don't really know when this is supposed to be. Ogam still looks old, but Pwyll isn't around, and I think that's what's her name. But since they don't even know what fire is I'd think this was before all of the ages they talked about before. Confusing. Pwyll is a legendary ELF and I believe like the dragons, the Age of Elves was before the Ice Age. So during the events of this episode, Pwyll is already there, probably allied with Ogam. This is before Arawn met Pwyll. |
| Great, it now becomes quite clear what the timeline and background of TtT is. I would have prefered a second flashbak episode instead of a return to the normal storyline for the 21st, but well, nevermind. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| So Myrdinn is playing the role of Prometheus in Tears of Tiara. This show is a mix of every myth and story. From Romans to the English legends of Arthur,dragons and magic and now Greek mythology. Also the number 12. Did you notice that is the same as the Gods of Olympus? I liked the episode and it went by fast. When i saw Ogam still being an old man i really had a WTF face. How old is that guy? ShiroiRyu said: Shokzman : So... Why you say what in the episode 20 of the series ?XD You meant "that" i suppose. Well the answer is simple. Because his an idiot. The world is full of them. |
MonadSep 4, 2009 11:46 PM
| I liked, the father of Arawn was a great man. I considered an interesting story, Arawn personality changed radically :O |
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| so background on arawn, or lucifer, and who his father was- the savior of the human race |
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 White Spirits.. The will of God... I see where this is going.. I like it! |
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| I always liked the bald Myrdinn from the pc version... he just looked more refined then another old man. |
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| how can you have chains, clothes and not have fire??? Well maybe the great white 12 just gave them the stuff ! |
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koteg-senpai said: Kundalini said: jeez... did ALL of you miss the fact that this whole episode is what Taleisin is "seeing" from the recorded Lucifer?? The last episode ends when Lucifer is ready to show the "traveller" everything about the world. So this is the flashback from Arawn's past, from when he wasn't even a White Spirit. It shows the beginning of the human race and the truth about the plan of the 11 White Spirits. ...so ? o damn, i actually forgot about that. even though we alrady know this is arawn's past, i totally forgot about what happened last episode well anyway, this was actually an enjoyable episode |
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KillthisAccount said: Good episode but I don't like Arawn's/Lucifer's personality in the past... he seems more stubborn and simple minded. You mean just like almost every other person in the show? |
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| One of the reasons that Arawn/Lucifer can sympathize with and teach Arthur is that he knows we all make mistakes in our youth, albeit his may have lasted several millennia. I think this had a little more impact in the game, or maybe it's just because I'm seeing it a second time, but still the story of how the humans huddle together against the cold with their children placed in the centre of the heap was pretty affecting (evoking some echoes of the Holocaust). As to the chains and clothes, in the game the humans had animal skins on, not cloth (which makes more sense) and the chains had been placed on them by the angels to hold them in the prison. |
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| This was actually a lot better done in the game. It lack some depth and even an impact in the anime. And I honestly wonder if they even show what happened to the humanity (and the girl) after that as it was one of the key moments of the story. |
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