| Well I watched it and it is approximatelly 75 minutes with the unpublished scene. Plus the DVD also states 78 minutes DVD on the registration info part This one is also 6 minutes per episode http://myanimelist.net/anime/17359/Peeping_Life:_The_Perfect_Explosion DVD And this one is also 6 minutes http://myanimelist.net/anime/22631/Peeping_Life:_Tezuka_Pro_-_Tatsunoko_Pro_Wonderland DVD |
Futa-chin_KosukiNov 29, 2014 6:00 AM
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| hentai_eucli, >http://myanimelist.net/anime/6525/Peeping_Life do you have the DVD's at hand? Or have you watched both TV and DVD releases to be able to compare the episodes? An unpublished scene? Probably the one included here. You can't simply take the total duration of the DVD on Amazon and devide it by the number of episodes, and even if the episodes on the DVD are indeed longer, they still could be a director's cut versions. That would not warrant an episode duration change. Pretty much the same goes for http://myanimelist.net/anime/17359/Peeping_Life:_The_Perfect_Explosion DVD does include in addition to the episodes three 4-minute long specials, which are live-action for the looks of it, or animated, but not yet added into database. >http://myanimelist.net/anime/22631/Peeping_Life:_Tezuka_Pro_-_Tatsunoko_Pro_Wonderland From the DVD info you linked: so, 10 episodes for total duration of 50 minutes + 10 minutes of bonus material already included separately on this entry. I hope that clears the slight confusion. |
LeknaatNov 29, 2014 7:37 AM
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This show's setting seems similar to the early 20th century but it's also taking place on a fictional world so doesn't that mean it's not historical? |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/8192/Hoshi_Shinichis_Short_Shorts_Special Shouldn't this be 6 episodes? Or 4 if you ignore live action? I'm not entirely sure how this was aired/set up. The logic behind this is weird too, no dialogue or plot doesn't count as an entry? "Fantasy" which counts as one episode in this "special" is divided into 5 "stories" on the DVD as well. http://myanimelist.net/anime/3401/Aru_Tabibito_no_Nikki_Specials/moreinfo Haven't watched either one of them so not too sure. |
Fronzel said: This show's setting seems similar to the early 20th century but it's also taking place on a fictional world so doesn't that mean it's not historical? I kinda agree with Fronzel. Historical tag is not required here. Jacquelin, > Shouldn't this be 6 episodes? Depends on how they are included/listed on the DVD or aired. Might be considered as one special yeah, nothing unusual. > The logic behind this is weird too, no dialogue or plot doesn't count as an entry? These episodes are excluded mostly because "they are slideshows of images", not because they have no dialogue or plot. I mean, if that slideshow would actually tell a story, it would be another case to consider. "Fantasy" is listed as one episode correctly. |
LeknaatNov 30, 2014 6:18 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/23905/Gisoku_no_Moses pretty sure this is doujinshi http://myanimelist.net/anime/3743/ Add Satsujin to synonyms and 殺人 for Japanese title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Man_and_the_Sea_%281999_film%29 Is this not allowed? I assume it'd already be in the DB if it were, but as far as the guidelines go it says a joint production is fine as long as it's not just outsourced animation, and there are Japanese producer, co-producer and voice actors for the original version, it was first released in Japan, and it won the Ofuji award for Japanese animated films, so it seems like there is enough Japanese involvement in the production to me. I understand it doesn't have much Japanese influence to it though. |
JacquelinNov 30, 2014 8:36 AM
lanblade said: They are more or less the same content-wise, they may have been released differently than the others but they are still the same kind of specials. Also, considering the popularity of the entries, splitting them at this point would just cause more trouble than it's worth. |
| Jacquelin, > pretty sure this is doujinshi yeah, looks like it shouldn't be in the DB. > Is this not allowed? I assume it'd already be in the DB if it were ... It was indeed denied once already, with a reason being: The Old Man and the Sea (15627): Russian/Canadian animation partly funded by Japanese investors. I am sorry, it doesn't meet the guidelines. |
LeknaatNov 30, 2014 10:55 AM
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Leknaat said: Jacquelin, > pretty sure this is doujinshi yeah, looks like it shouldn't be in the DB. > Is this not allowed? I assume it'd already be in the DB if it were ... It was indeed denied once already, with a reason being: The Old Man and the Sea (15627): Russian/Canadian animation partly funded by Japanese investors. I am sorry, it doesn't meet the guidelines. But this is false... it is also Japanese co-produced. Look it up. It couldn't possibly be nominated for Noburou Oofuji award if it weren't Japanese-made. Positions held by Japanese people include special effects supervisor, producer, executive producer, associate producer (x2), actor (x2) according to IMDB. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=13639 This and related entries should be in one (Short Peace) http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=28693 Biblig -> Biblic, my bad. http://myanimelist.net/anime/28419/ I submitted this over a month ago, still in queue... Leknaat said: yeah, looks like it shouldn't be in the DB. Why is it still there? |
JacquelinDec 1, 2014 1:56 AM
GomuBlade said: lanblade said: They are more or less the same content-wise, they may have been released differently than the others but they are still the same kind of specials. Also, considering the popularity of the entries, splitting them at this point would just cause more trouble than it's worth.Content does not matter. Release type is what matters. What’s the point of having Database Guidelines if you choose not to follow them? What’s the point of accepting new database entries for Specials if you can toss them under old Special entries according to this logic of “more or less the same content-wise”? Like those 3 new Dr. Slump specials or the new “Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (TV): Deai no Jikan” not being with “Ansatsu Kyoushitsu”. Popularity does not matter. Nothing about that is written in the guidelines either. If the anime was so popular then why didn’t any of those thousands of people come forward with those 3 missing episodes over the 8 years they’ve existed? What is this “trouble” that you speak of? The Rurouni Kenshin Special was split from the main series and that had tens of thousands of more members at the time than these Shakugan no Shana specials do right now combined. |
lanblade said: What’s the point of having Database Guidelines if you choose not to follow them? I wonder that as well considering how often I have to fight for the validity of my submissions or modification requests despite following the guidelines to the letter. |
| Jacquelin, > I submitted this over a month ago, still in queue... Approved now. > But this is false... No, it doesn't qualify for an entry, its confirmed. > Why is it still there? The entry will be removed at some point. Thank you for reporting. Though, this is not an issue of utmost importance, so please have some patience. lanblade, Jacquelin, What’s the point of having Database Guidelines if you choose not to follow them? I appreciate it that you guys take this issue to heart. It would be a miracle if we could only have consistent and easy to follow (for novice users also) rules written for everything that ever-changing animation industry produces. Unfortunately, organizing these things is a very difficult task, requiring you sometimes to make hard choices/compromises. Even though there is still a lot to fix in the database, it's in a pretty good shape actually, but despite all the hard work it will never be complete, or error-free, some entries will never be added, despite the popularity, etc... So meanwhile we could maybe all relax and learn to appreciate, and enjoy the anime, even if it's not in the database, or is included on another entry. >despite following the guidelines to the letter. Jacquelin, I think that it's not about simply following them to the letter, it's about comprehending them as a whole. It's not enough if the anime is done in Japan, but released only for Western market. It's not enough if the creator is an independent animator, like some others already in the DB, but never won any awards listed in the guidelines, etc... I hope that the guidelines will be updated and clarified on in the future, to possibly help to comprehend them better, and for mods to stay always consistent. I also hope that you Jacquelin would not get too frustrated here, as we can get, I believe, some more of the titles you have to offer actually included in the database. :) |
LeknaatDec 1, 2014 6:56 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/18691/Joshikousei_no_Koshitsuki This anime has at least 6 episodes. EP6 (NSFW) |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/5158/Noisy_Birth add Dementia genre. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
Thegoldenninja said: P.S. I didn't know this thread existed and ended up posting it as a review, if that could be deleted after seeing this, that would be appreciated. You can delete your review by yourself. Mouse over to Profile button, click Reviews, click on the review you want to delete and click Delete Review. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| Leknaat, I think it's quite sad that you act so condescending when you've been shown multiple times that your "interpretation" (if it can even be considered one) of the DB guidelines contradicts not only the clearly written rules, but also the current state of the DB. I don't know why you are so obsessed with being right, when you have admitted your ignorance yourself already. If you had real arguments for your point of view/interpretation of the guidelines then maybe I could let it slide, but you simply answer with "no" and a "subtle" condescending comment and made-up rules. I guess it's no surprise. |
| Jacquelin, I apologize for my condescending way of replying... but, uhm, my wording aside, then it comes to approving, or denying entries you do want to be always correct on the decisions made, for the obvious reasons. It is never a matter of letting it slide. So... that should explain my obsession. The fact that not everything you've submitted can be added into database is not because of my ignorance, or because I am making my own rules here. As I've mentioned in one of my previous posts, the only contradiction may come from the poorer state of the independent/doujin animation section of the DB, which may contain some of the creators/titles that were approved by mistake. I am not the best with words, so I don't know how else I can explain the reasons to you. Umm... I can edit this post later with a detailed explanation (going by the points in the guidelines) for why for example the Beluga entry was denied. If you want to listen, of course. |
LeknaatDec 1, 2014 11:36 AM
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Leknaat said: lanblade, Jacquelin, What’s the point of having Database Guidelines if you choose not to follow them? I appreciate it that you guys take this issue to heart. It would be a miracle if we could only have consistent and easy to follow (for novice users also) rules written for everything that ever-changing animation industry produces. I assume this part is directed towards Jaxquelin's anime as my anime in question are standard OVAs and Specials, text book examples, from the database guidelines themselves. Unfortunately, organizing these things is a very difficult task, requiring you sometimes to make hard choices/compromises. Even though there is still a lot to fix in the database, it's in a pretty good shape actually, but despite all the hard work it will never be complete, or error-free, some entries will never be added, despite the popularity, etc... That's why this thread exists. Every user here is helping find the errors which allows you with power to fix them faster than you can find them yourselves. 352 pages of evidence. So meanwhile we could maybe all relax and learn to appreciate, and enjoy the anime, even if it's not in the database, or is included on another entry. What does appreciating anime have to do with database corrections? What does appreciating anime have to do with ignoring the rules of the website that these 352 pages are based on? |
| I am posting this in both the anime and manga sections, since it applies across the board. http://myanimelist.net/anime/26441/Junketsu_no_Maria It would be more accurate to remove the "Ecchi" tag from Genre. The outfits look skimpy, but after reading the 12 translated chapters of the original manga and browsing through the untranslated volume and a half remaining as well as part of Exhibition, I was surprised to notice that the main content of the story wasn't focused on sexual titillation at all. There is a degree of fanservice, low to moderate, but the way it's portrayed makes that far less prominent than it sounds on paper. Whole chapters pass where there can be spoken jokes about sex or virginity without much of a visual reference, which puts the emphasis on comedy rather than sex appeal. Even the first official PV for the anime has only like 2 seconds of relatively tame nudity in a completely non-sexual context (character taking a bath or waking up). Reference: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/純潔のマリア (only listed as Fantasy, not even Rom Com) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP--uJZu3eo |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=7162 add Comedy genre. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/28351/Hikari_no_Megami The synonym should be the English title. It got an official dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBxNBNj3t8 http://myanimelist.net/anime/28347/Guitar_Shoujo! Should this really be 2 eps? Based on the 'end' date duration that means, this CM is the second ep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7O67QtV0x4 For literally 1 second there is regular animation and for the rest of the 14 seconds it's game cut-scenes. That means 6.6% of that episode is actually anime-anime. http://myanimelist.net/anime/28631 Japanese title: スタジオカラーVSサイバーコネクトツー ガチンコ！アニメーション対決！ Main title: Studio Khara vs. CyberConnect2 Gachinko! Animation Taiketsu! Site: http://www.cc2.co.jp/kharaXcc2/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/6166/Asobi_ni_Iku_yo! http://myanimelist.net/anime/9618/Asobi_ni_Iku_yo!_Asobi_ni_Oide +genre: harem To match its source. And because the anime ended with an open harem, the MC even kissed all 3 harem girls. What a playa'. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=3869 Main title: Sakura Momoko Gekijou: Coji-Coji http://myanimelist.net/anime/619/Ninja_Gaiden Main title: Ninja Ryuukenden English title: Ninja Gaiden Japanese title: 忍者龍剣伝 +synonym: Ninja Ryukenden, Tale of Ninja Ryuken, Tale of Ninja Ryuuken Can you also use AniDB's image? It looks much sharper and larger than ours. http://myanimelist.net/anime/2319/Freedom_Previsited As the synopsis says, it was limited edition DVD. Released separate from the main series, I believe it would make this entry an OVA rather than a Special. |
lanbladeDec 6, 2014 10:21 AM
| Since those are taking a while maybe this will help By my interpretation http://myanimelist.net/anime/28685/ - valid on the basis of Ofuji award (Mainichi award) http://myanimelist.net/anime/28691/ - may be a shooting test and contains live action segments, so may not be valid (haven't seen it yet) http://myanimelist.net/anime/28695/ - it's Masaoka, his other works are here and this was produced professionally with a team. I saw it today, so I can confirm it's legit if there is any need. Also http://myanimelist.net/anime/8191/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/8192/ Proper romanization would be "Hoshi Shinichi Short Short", they weren't even translated, so there's no reason to use an English title. |
Different anime with the same name. |
lanblade said: Different anime with the same name. Yeah... I, uhm, was just checking how mods work - and they totally failed the test! Edit: http://myanimelist.net/anime/21069 - if it's finished airing, then how come the number of episodes is unknown? |
SerhiykoDec 5, 2014 5:22 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/10028/Magic_Knight_Rayearth_Omake Should be removed. These under-one-minute pieces of animation are at the end of every episode of the TV series; they are as much a part of the episode as the next-episode preview. There are only four of them and they are repeated randomly at the ends of most of the 20 episodes of the series, so they even lack uniqueness. Note the airing date listed is the same as the TV series. A hasty internet search lead me to no other mention of "Magic Knight Rayearth Omake" anywhere. |
FronzelDec 5, 2014 11:31 AM
Leknaat said: The movie came first, so its title should be just "Air". The TV series should be "Air (TV)". Are you sure? Source? Hmm. They both started airing (heh) at around the same time. The movie is "Gekijouban Air" (Air Movie) and the TV series is just "Air", though. Titles on Aoi Hana and Arcana Famiglia entries are fine as is. The title of the Aoi Hana anime is officially Aoi Hana: Sweet Blue Flowers, though. With Arcana, the title I gave is the official title of not only the anime, but the games as well. The subtitle always seems to be included. I won't be swapping titles for Devilman entries just yet either. Everything else should be done. Fair enough! Also thanks a bunch, I know it must be annoying. Something slightly missed though... http://myanimelist.net/anime/7739/11eyes_OVA Title should be 11eyes: Momoiro Genmutan - rö zsaszí n é jszaka. The Polish (?) is an official part of the title. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=28717 add S.H.Figuarts スーパーマリオシリーズ(SUPER MARIO SERIES) プロモ映像 as Japanese title. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=24703 Title: High School DxD BorN. First and last letters are capitalized. Submitted airing month for April. Source: Official website Also, which is correct, High School or Highschool? The novel and manga entries are the latter while all the anime entries are the former. Entries should be consistent. |
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| Zazie122, > Title should be 11eyes: Momoiro Genmutan - rö zsaszí n é jszaka. The Polish (?) is an official part of the title. according to this source it is simply a subtitle with the same title in another language. Therefore it can be omitted just fine. Similar to this, subtitles for Aoi Hana and Arcana are omitted on purpose, it's not an error. Air Movie aired after the TV broadcast started, so the entries are listed correctly. Thank you. Looking forward for the next batch of your requests. |
LeknaatDec 6, 2014 1:52 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/24745/Yobai_Suru_Shichinin_no_Harame/ Japanese: 夜這いする七人の孕女 Source: Official Site (Please also add this official site to the anime entry above. ) |
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| After watching: http://myanimelist.net/anime/28691/ It seems to be a real film (part of it was lost, but that's also the case for many other films in the DB), but it is basically an animated character in a (mostly) live action setting, interacting with an actress. Think Space Jam, but with more focus on the animated character. |
JacquelinDec 6, 2014 12:59 PM
Jacquelin said: http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=13639 This and related entries should be in one (Short Peace) Not done yet, should be clear with 5 minutes on Google that they are one movie (or at least released as one package, which by precedent should be in one entry). |
| Done: #7025 #7026: added "Girlfriend BETA" to the synonyms, "GF BETA" is also searchable now #7031 #7032: second episode end has this hinting a 3rd episode #7033: ecchi will stay until the anime starts, to match the manga entry, we will remove it later if the adaption doesn't feature much of it #7034 #7035 (part of it) #7039 #7040: reported for removal, thanks #7043: thank you for noticing, I've asked a manga moderator to change the manga entries to "High School". #7045: added romance to keep consistent with the manga entry #7046 Was already done by another moderator: #7024 #7035 (part of it) #7036 #7037 #7042 #7051 We will get to these later: #7047 #7050 Thank you |
MikedDec 7, 2014 8:04 PM
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| Regarding http://myanimelist.net/anime/28765/ here are my sources, I thought it was an alt. name for Poker for a while: http://mclarenwalltowall.com/en/works/the-baby-bird-of-norman-mclaren And proof that it's not the same film: https://www.facebook.com/shugotokumaru/posts/10152740374594167 I labelled it as film since the focus is on it being a McLaren tribute rather than a music video. edit: differences I have observed - some different backgrounds for some reason; mclaren character instead of musician; title and end cards; more mclaren references with cuts and shots, probably was toned down for the music video as it is so mclaren inspired that i am fairly certain this is the "original" video and poker was adapted from it. but it has only been shown at some screenings/festivals as far as i am aware. |
JacquelinDec 7, 2014 2:04 PM
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/3136/Ochamegami_Monogatari:_Korokoro_Poron the Parody genre seems to be added twice in the Information section. It also show ups as a result when one searches both Parody and Hentai genres with Advanced Search. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
Fronzel said: This show's setting seems similar to the early 20th century but it's also taking place on a fictional world so doesn't that mean it's not historical? There are plenty of shows set in fictional worlds that do have the genre tag though. Like Gosick in a fictional Europe. Or maybe you mean that Alison to Lillia is set in a completely different world, not just modified, and that's why it doesn't require the genre? That would be Romeo x Juliet's case. |
| “We see what we want to see” |
Miked said: #7035 (part of it) Everything is now done except adding harem to here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6166/Asobi_ni_Iku_yo! which is a bit odd as harem was added to the side-story entry. http://myanimelist.net/anime/619/ is based on a video game of the same name that was released in English (the game, not the anime). It was titled Ninja Gaiden. Is that not good enough to warrant "Ninja Gaiden" being listed as the English title for the anime? Wasn't sure if it was the case or if it was a clerical error during the update. |
lanblade said: Should be fixed now. ThanksEverything is now done except adding harem to here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6166/Asobi_ni_Iku_yo! which is a bit odd as harem was added to the side-story entry. lanblade said: Yes, since the anime wasn't released in english I added that title to the synonyms. We try to keep the english field for entries that have been licensed or if there's an official english version of the original title.http://myanimelist.net/anime/619/ is based on a video game of the same name that was released in English (the game, not the anime). It was titled Ninja Gaiden. Is that not good enough to warrant "Ninja Gaiden" being listed as the English title for the anime? Wasn't sure if it was the case or if it was a clerical error during the update. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/4473/Shoujo_Sect add hentai genre. |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
| abystoma2, It's a strictly Yuri series. Hentai genre is not added in these cases. Instead, explicit content is already marked with an "Rx - Hentai" rating on the entry. Which should be enough to inform/warn the users who might be interested in watching it. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/28775/White_Fantasy Type should be ONA as it's an online commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU9ak83IqU Rather than a television commercial. jakov said: I'm watching Yosuga no Sora: In Solitude, Where We Are Least Alone., at the moment and have noticed, there are 2 min Specials at the end of each episode, yet it can't be listed in MAL or graded for that matter, as all others Specials have been from other series. It's not that important, but still, it's nice when possible to list everything you've watched...:) Thanks From the guidelines: Specials include: * DVD/Blu-ray specials and introductory animation (pilots, prologues, episodes 00) which contain animation/voice acting not used in the parent show. * Recap episodes and picture dramas of existing database entries. Things that are a part of the normal anime episode when it was airing on TV is just that: a part of the normal anime episode. If you watched the anime then you saw those ones at the end. Unlike other anime series where the specials are can only be seen months after the anime airs on TV. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=28641 Why would you change the title? I included the Japanese title in Katakana, as per your guidelines this is what should be used, not the localized English title... this is the second time it happens, I don't get it. Also, I would like to know when and how you will revise guidelines, and/or whether any discussion is going on now, because I still have no response from the DB mod you referred me to. |
JacquelinDec 9, 2014 6:17 AM
lanblade said: I haven't watched it so I'd not know but it could still be a special, like how Ars Nova got an entry for a series of specials that aired with the episode when it was re-airing, while it's probably not the case here it's something you should keep in mind.http://myanimelist.net/anime/28775/White_Fantasy Type should be ONA as it's an online commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU9ak83IqU Rather than a television commercial. jakov said: I'm watching Yosuga no Sora: In Solitude, Where We Are Least Alone., at the moment and have noticed, there are 2 min Specials at the end of each episode, yet it can't be listed in MAL or graded for that matter, as all others Specials have been from other series. It's not that important, but still, it's nice when possible to list everything you've watched...:) Thanks From the guidelines: Specials include: * DVD/Blu-ray specials and introductory animation (pilots, prologues, episodes 00) which contain animation/voice acting not used in the parent show. * Recap episodes and picture dramas of existing database entries. Things that are a part of the normal anime episode when it was airing on TV is just that: a part of the normal anime episode. If you watched the anime then you saw those ones at the end. Unlike other anime series where the specials are can only be seen months after the anime airs on TV. |
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