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Tekky99 said: Faust87 said: The part "I prefer it bare too, more so than with a condom" shocked me °_____° Is not a miss sub? O_o the japanese word for "live" is the same as the word for "bare" (as in sex)... Mizuki was referencing his live performance, and Kuze joked about liking it bare. oh, now i understand, thanks. |
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| Looks like its going to be an interesting season =] Can't wait to see how it all plays out |
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| So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. |
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Wasabi said: So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. That might be but the shot was way less longer and less explicit. They could have done more explicit but yet they did not. I have seen the 18+ pic of that games but this is romance not hentai. Wasabi said: angel999 said: Wasabi said: So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. That might be but the shot was way less longer and less explicit. They could have done more explicit but yet they did not. I have seen the 18+ pic of that games but this is romance not hentai. So just because we see someone stripping for nude art, it turns into mindless ecchi or hentai? You're kidding me right? There's a certain level of fanservice that can be had here. They can just start sticking in random panty shots if they really wanted to use ecchi as a focal point in the anime. This level of fanservice is completely tolerable. I hardly understand why it's such a big issue. One scene does not turn a whole show into blatant ecchi. No but too much of this fanservice nude crap and it's bad! Simple as that. |
angel999Oct 8, 2008 6:38 PM
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| Brilliance in hte first episode already and plenty of links to former characters (The nude art girl has the last name Hirono, and Kuze is OBVIOUSLY Renji's neighbour.) |
angel999 said: Wasabi said: So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. That might be but the shot was way less longer and less explicit. They could have done more explicit but yet they did not. I have seen the 18+ pic of that games but this is romance not hentai. So just because we see someone stripping for nude art, it turns into mindless ecchi or hentai? You're kidding me right? There's a certain level of fanservice that can be had here. They can just start sticking in random panty shots if they really wanted to use ecchi as a focal point in the anime. This level of fanservice is completely tolerable. I hardly understand why it's such a big issue. One scene does not turn a whole show into blatant ecchi. |
WasabiOct 8, 2008 6:18 PM
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| WOW ! it would seemed as if i am watchin ef ~ a tale of memories though ^^ hahas . but somehow it's another side of the story ^^ but otherwise .. COOL (: LOVE MISUKI (: hahas .x D |
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I liked it, still too early to tell if it'll live up to the first season since that's on of my favorite anime. The art is still breathtaking, it looks like the character designs have changed slightly since last time. There is a lot of German in this now, Renji is half German so I wonder if he'll have a dominant role in this series as well. On the topic of Renji I had no idea that Mizuki was his cousin, it was never mentioned in the first series but then again it seemed like they had no relation what-so-ever. From what I've kind of assumed but haven't really picked up on is some kind of relationship between Mizuki and Kuze, having some kind of forbidden love aspect to the show. The other relationship in this might take place entirely in the past in Himura's memory. As for the "ecchi" and "fan service" it didn't really feel like there was any at all in this episode, it was just on girl posing nude for herself in a scene that was less than twenty seconds. Also did anyone else catch the Hidamari Sketch reference? Except the Yamabuki uniform is red instead of blue. |
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| I actually went into this expecting a train wreck of massive proportions. Ended up being fairly good. Looking forward to more. |
| Since I heard about this coming out, I've been constantly telling myself not to expect too much. But it seems I was worried causeless. Great first episode and looks like this will be quite a worth sequel, though I doubt it can top the masterpiece status of the prequel. Looking somewhat forward to more. |
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| The art is just as good as in the first season, and it was great to see a few of the old character back. Sadly there was a few fanservice scenes, I hope they doesn't continue. |
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| I can't wait for episode 2. I wasn't disturbed by the nude scene early on in the episode, and from the way I see it; if the character felt better drawing in the nude, then so be it. There are some pretty odd artists around, so her drawing in the nude was actually normal in a sense. btw, I DON'T draw in the nude. I just draw lol. Other than that, I must say I didn't expect a few things, while I saw other things coming miles away, which I like. And we get to see Renji again! Nothing wrong with that lol. The opening video and song were very beautiful. There was one part of the opening that gave me chills and I'm trying to figure out why lol. |
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| holy shit boobs, burn it with fire!!! ... |
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UkyoKuonji2010 said: btw, I DON'T draw in the nude. I just draw lol. I think the most of the people do 0_o |
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| As expected of SHAFT, the opening was superb. I'm still not sure if it can top the prequel, but let's wait and see shall we. And the nude scene wasn't that big of a deal. |
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| great stuff. do want moar kuze backstory. |
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angel999 said: I think you might need to focus on those fanservice really are about in this episode. To me, I see it nothing is like ecchi or feel it like one. And like the one in Mizuki's dream, the Mizuki in that dream was completely different from the Mizuki in the first season and in this episode. Well, there might be a reason they chose this way to do it.No but too much of this fanservice nude crap and it's bad! Simple as that. |
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Drengot said: angel999 said: Wasabi said: So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. That might be but the shot was way less longer and less explicit. They could have done more explicit but yet they did not. I have seen the 18+ pic of that games but this is romance not hentai. Wasabi said: angel999 said: Wasabi said: So people see a pair of tits and they flip out? I haven't seen the episode yet but judging from the screens, it's not like they're forcing sex and ecchi on the viewers but more to convey the personalities of the characters. The guy being the artist that he is and the girl being bold enough to actually do nude art. Oh, let's not forget Hirono and Miya had sex in the first season and we got a pretty nice shot of her as well. Last but not least, ef is based of a h-game after all. That might be but the shot was way less longer and less explicit. They could have done more explicit but yet they did not. I have seen the 18+ pic of that games but this is romance not hentai. So just because we see someone stripping for nude art, it turns into mindless ecchi or hentai? You're kidding me right? There's a certain level of fanservice that can be had here. They can just start sticking in random panty shots if they really wanted to use ecchi as a focal point in the anime. This level of fanservice is completely tolerable. I hardly understand why it's such a big issue. One scene does not turn a whole show into blatant ecchi. No but too much of this fanservice nude crap and it's bad! Simple as that. Are you saying there's no sex / hentai in romance? Come on! Believe it or not, hentai + romance is possible. Sorry angel999, but I agree with Wasabi. I think people who thinks this will turn into mindless echii fanservice or people who thinks it will lower the quality of ef are just overreacting. This show targets mature audience so let's be mature ok? I mean, what's the big deal seeing a naked girl? Geez guys enough with this talk. I think that I DON'T NEED TO SEE NUDE HUMANS NOR DO I NEED HOW THEY FU**. ENOUGH WITH THE SHIT ASS PORN ON THE NET. So bottom line too much of ecchi in anime or real crap. THEREFORE WE NO NEED OF IT. Improvise otherwise IS THE MESSAGE. |
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| Key word: you don't need to see. God forbid someone have a different opinion. |
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| Watched Chihiro's subs. I'm not a stickler for subs so I'm not so sure why people are saying that it's not that good. oo; I'll probably rewatch when Menclave's comes out though just for comparison. (And because I want to rewatch the episode again anyway.) What I don't get is why some people are freaking out over there being a little fanservice. That was hardly any fanservice at all. O_o To me, it's just reflecting their personalities and who knows, maybe this event did happen in the actual visual novel. (I can't say since I haven't played it though.) It is based off of an eroge in the first place and even though the main focus is romance, a little fanservice isn't going to kiill anyone. It's not like there were numerous panty-shots here and there. It was subdued and tolerable. :| |
MyFriendSam said: is it mizuki and that guy with the masks and school girl outfits...cause...im sorry but thats kinda creepy, i mean he's like 30 years old...and shes like 16... Dude I agree. As soon as Mizuki started looking interested in him and Shuichi started making sexual referenced jokes, I lost interest. I know ef is supposed to play on your feelings and whatnot but having the much older next door neighbor and the 16 year old possibly hooking up is a bit to much for me. I do really hope it doesn't turn into a show like that. I wanna learn more about Yuko and Yu and less about the perv neighbor who has cancer or some health problem. Also that Renji's mom acted a bit weird around Shuichi in this ep. I'd much rather them focus on that too and how they all connect. As for the episode as a whole, the graphics where the same as the first season. The music was nice although I didn't like the OP as much as the first season's. Something about the way it flowed just didn't sound right to me. Over all I think this will be a pretty good season as long as they stay away from pedoness. |
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| watch to enjoy not criticize. thats why i dont do long drawnout reviews. angel999 - i like how your complaining about fanservice while you watched sekirei and rosario + vampire and gave them both decent scores |
spec_jay said: watch to enjoy not criticize. thats why i dont do long drawnout reviews. angel999 - i like how your complaining about fanservice while you watched sekirei and rosario + vampire and gave them both decent scores I get the sarcasm but this show truly does not deserve such. Those two shows as mentioned had their context defined especially Rosario in season 1 but this in season 1 was perfect without that very fanservice and I know, I saw the first season at least three times including version on DVD RAW. Trust me the fanservice is not necessary at all! I will stand by that even if the whole thing is based on 18+ game it matters not. The storyline should be kept like in the first season. That means very little fanservice or none. Emphasizing or making it too long....it makes it worse. Serenti said: DeathfireD said: As soon as Mizuki started looking interested in him and Shuichi started making sexual referenced jokes, I lost interest. I feel the same way. I do hope that they'll stop with this sice it ruins the anime, but i am afraid they wont... I agreed with the above! This whole story of Hayama and Shuiichi is unnecessary! |
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DeathfireD said: As soon as Mizuki started looking interested in him and Shuichi started making sexual referenced jokes, I lost interest. I feel the same way. I do hope that they'll stop with this sice it ruins the anime, but i am afraid they wont... |
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| point is its there it may not be necessary to you but the producers felt it was. personally i dont really care as long as the characters personality is portrayed correctly. |
miyachan said: Mizuki is a university student, she is 18 years old, very legal and it's her business who she falls in love with. Don't make assumptions about her story when you haven't seen it yet. She could still be 16 and a super genius. We don't know her age so we cannot assume that either. |
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miyachan said: Agreed, It is a mistake that you try to judge thing when you have known nothing about it. I didn't play the game but I saw the OP of the game and there are a lot of happened in Mizuki's background story. Even for ef-the tale of memories there was nothing really great about it beside the art at the beginning until you learn more about character's background story.Mizuki is a university student, she is 18 years old, very legal and it's her business who she falls in love with. Don't make assumptions about her story when you haven't seen it yet. |
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miyachan said: angel999 said: miyachan said: Mizuki is a university student, she is 18 years old, very legal and it's her business who she falls in love with. Don't make assumptions about her story when you haven't seen it yet. She could still be 16 and a super genius. We don't know her age so we cannot assume that either. Mizuki was 15 years old when she was enrolled in first year of high school, which places her a year younger than Hiro and Kei when the first season started. Now that she's in university, it's not hard to add the numbers together. Siva said: Agreed, It is a mistake that you try to judge thing when you have known nothing about it. I wish people don't do this all the time but it happens. So it means that there is like 3 or 4 years that passed since the first season??? I really have a hard believing that she is 18 and on top of that that 3 to 4 years passed since season 1? Does not look like it at all. miyachan said: angel999 said: So it means that there is like 3 or 4 years that passed since the first season??? I really have a hard believing that she is 18 and on top of that that 3 to 4 years passed since season 1? Does not look like it at all. She just seems too young because she's a bubbly person. But she's definitely eighteen. In Episode 2 of the 1st season, Hiro referred to Mizuki as his "kouhai", meaning junior. Hiro, Kei and Miyako were all second years, which makes Mizuki a first year. She needs to go through three years before she can enter university, which is where she's studying right now. Well whatever the case is, I think Shuiichi is a waste of her time. The guy can die anytime, he might be maniacal or instable in his mind and seems to be hooked on booze and juice BUT juice can be mixed with alcohol so BS! + He does not seem to eat well. I AM CHANGING MY OPINION TO Mizuki+Shuiichi=WASTE TO EACH OTHER! |
angel999Oct 10, 2008 8:49 AM
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| I think it was a very good episode. I really love the art and the caracthers are very interesting on their on ways |
| So because we have normal mature characters, IT DOES NOT FIT THE ANIME. o noez |
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| Anyway, I liked the opening! I was completely caught off guard when I realized this season is not focusing on the main characters of the first, silly me. The artwork as usual, is beautiful. I am more interested in Yuko's story, rather then Mizuki perhaps gaining a relationship with Shuichi, but I wouldn't mind that anyway. It was a nice start though, Yuu being crucified in the opening though...wonder what that's abour, hmm? Can't wait for more, <3 |
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| The artwork of ef is amazingly refreshing. I seriously missed it and though the characters/story in the first season were nice i was in it mostly for the animation which is simply gorgeous. Yuuko jumping in the water and passing Yuu with her hair blowing in the wind was really beautiful. seriously made me want to rip open my sketch book and start on 8 new pieces Now that I've said that doubt i'll be coming back to this series discussion unless something epic worthy of typing up happens... i don't think i've ever eye rolled/eye twitched/ face palmed as much as i did while reading the last 5 pages of discussion... ridiculous... |
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| Whatever her age is, if there is any love connection between her and the neighbor this show will lose my attention till the Yuko parts start. @Siva - we judge and make our opinions known because we don't want a situation like that happening in the show. No one knows if it will really happen though. Just accept people aren't going to have the same opinion as you when they post on the forums. |
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| wow, people get offended so easily. anime isnt supposed to make you happy inside with perfect relationships. if a show explores something most animes wouldn't dare, i applaud it. If having a "forbidden" relationship was part of the creator's vision, he/she should go with it and not think whether some people will be offended. Anime and movies go bad when the only thing the creators think of is pleasing the fans(CG R2 anyone?), and not following a creative vision. in fact, one thing that bothers me about slice of life shows, is that they tend to have highschoolers, but there is never sex or drugs involved, which is the first thing i think of when i remember high school, so most shows, besides ef, tend to feel too unrealistic to me. im glad this show takes a less immature approach. |
M_AOct 10, 2008 9:51 PM
DeathfireD said: It might be a little bit disappoint for you but this one will be focus on Mizuki and Shuichi more than the other two, and Yuuko and Yu also have some kind of connection to Mizuki. And yeah, Mizuki is the first main character in this one.(well, if my understanding is right)Whatever her age is, if there is any love connection between her and the neighbor this show will lose my attention till the Yuko parts start. @Siva - we judge and make our opinions known because we don't want a situation like that happening in the show. No one knows if it will really happen though. Just accept people aren't going to have the same opinion as you when they post on the forums. I know what the viewers of this anime want but to judge things too early is a careless mistake. And I don't say thing base on my opinion alone because i have reason why I would say that. It is not like I expected everyone to have the same opinion in one forum but there are time you have to make argument or to let it goes. M_A said: I agreed with you that creator should follow their vision instead of just pleasing the fans. I know there are a lot of anime out there that tried something new and different from the others but FAIL, it is more like they were not creative enough but ef is not the case here.wow, people get offended so easily. anime isnt supposed to make you happy inside with perfect relationships. if a show explores something most animes wouldn't dare, i applaud it. If having a "forbidden" relationship was part of the creator's vision, he/she should go with it and not think whether some people will be offended. Anime and movies go bad when the only thing the creators think of is pleasing the fans(CG R2 anyone?), and not following a creative vision. in fact, one thing that bothers me about slice of life shows, is that they tend to have highschoolers, but there is never sex or drugs involved, which is the first thing i think of when i remember high school, so most shows, besides ef, tend to feel too unrealistic to me. im glad this show takes a less immature approach. As for CG R2, I don't really think there are something wrong with it, I know that the director try to please their fans as much as possible for the sake of selling DVD/BD but the anime itself was great to me. |
SivaOct 10, 2008 11:18 PM
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| Yes! Second Season :D I loved the first one. The first episode was okay. Hope to see Chihiro and Renji again. |
| Amazing work from SHAFT. First, Hidamari Sketch and now, this? I remember why I loved a tale of memories so much. I've only seen the first episode of melodies, but I already know this is gonna be my favorite anime of the season. P.S. It looks like next episode we're gonna be in despair. O_o |
Nek0Oct 11, 2008 8:51 PM
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| amazing first ep<3 was watching the episode and got surprised/sad when I realized that it 20+ minutes had already passed ;.; cant wait for the next episode~ the OP isnt as near as good euphoric field<3 but still like it :3 Im very interested in the 2 stories, unlike last season, I was only interested in chihiro (who ,by the way, cant wait to see) and renji's story and little on the other also cant wait to hear the ED (hopefully by next the ep) |
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| Weird episode, I'm on the fence, but as always, I'm stunned by the imagery of the show. |
| The art, the mood, animation, story, voice acting, characters.... it fits together so perfectly. If it goes on like this, it is clearly a perfect 10 for me! ^^ A little comment addressed to the "uptight" people in this forum: A relation between two people with 10 years age difference is quite normal nowadays. Furthermore sex is an important part of life. There is no relationship without it. And most importantly: The Panties were cute! ^^ |
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| loved the episode. Can't wait for someone decent to release a better subbed version. Chiriho's ones was just awful. |
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