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Vforvendetta said: please guys, enough of this, don't dig further into a really big mess. Nidhoeggr said: And regarding Berserk and SAO: I just voiced my concern over the fact that the term Black Swordsman is sullied by the - in my opinion inferior - SAO, as it is used here as well. It was just about the term Black Swordsman, not about the series itself - comparing those would be laughable as they are not in the same demographic & genre. Nidhoeggr was mistaken since he didn't know that the term "Black swordman" is used for a chapter in SAO and make a mess about it. And it was his mistake to bring berserk/guts in here in the first place. Huh, you didn't even need to change argument... Just because they used something as generic as "Black Swordsman" in a different anime, that does not mean anything. Nidhoeggr is just a hater that can't find any flaws in the anime that people find good and it's also popular. Let him be, ignorance is bliss, if we don't notice him, he'll stop commenting. |
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webkid94 said: Anyways good episode, but will there be more of these side stories? This is the rest before the start of the main story -Murder Case (next episode) (April 2024) -Warmth of the heart (June 2024) -Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer (August 2024 -Morning Dew Girl (October 2024) |
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| >weak MC Baaawww lame, beta, whiny protagonist >strong MC Baaawww self-insert, wish fulfillment, Gary Stu protagonist Really now... |
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kaimax said: webkid94 said: Anyways good episode, but will there be more of these side stories? This is the rest before the start of the main story -Murder Case (next episode) (April 2024) -Warmth of the heart (June 2024) -Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer (August 2024 -Morning Dew Girl (October 2024) But I think the 3 side stories would be inserted before the story's last battle... |
HauntingShock said: kaimax said: webkid94 said: Anyways good episode, but will there be more of these side stories? This is the rest before the start of the main story -Murder Case (next episode) (April 2024) -Warmth of the heart (June 2024) -Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer (August 2024 -Morning Dew Girl (October 2024) But I think the 3 side stories would be inserted before the story's last battle... Yeah it would be rather "spoilerish" to include the last 3 SS chapter chronologically. |
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Vforvendetta said: I'm also agree with kaimax, those side stories explain lots of thing that happen in SAO world, as a light novel reader, the novel itself is no different when the author first introduced kirito as a high level player in SAO, and everything started at 74th floor without any explanations, it's the truth. Technically the novel didn't portray how he reach that high level, and u guys honestly want to see how he level up from 1 - 78 in the entire anime? Killing mobs, level up, spending points on skills, eat, sleep then keep doing it until he reaches his current level, he is a solo player and that's what hes entirely doing in SAO and u guys want to show all of that into anime? So basically instead of portraying side story which helps who haven't read the novel to understand more about the SAO world ( we know about orange player, guild, etc and pet tamer in this episode), some people prefer the leveling progress to be shown on the show *sigh. Introducing side story first is a wise choice I must say, so u guys won't be amazed by the awesomeness of the plot later on. My perspective on the show was quite normal, not until I read the light novel and realize what they intend to do with each episode. This is the case with Harry Potter, It's the novel made the movies famous, not the other way around. I agree with the fact that introducing side stories help the anime viewers understand Kirito and SAO better. Unfortunately, this particular episode fails at even that job, whereas the previous episodes at least had the right intentions. For a detailed argument, visit http://myanimelist.net/blog/s2012k1993 |
| Well yeah, that lack of portraying character's feelings/emotions can be found in most of the novel adaption, not only in anime but in general, which is why reading the original novel is way better for those who likes digging into the character developments. I've read your notes and really like it. If they want to portray character's emotions, they will have to prolong each episode, which is really difficult cause they're planning to finish the fairy dance arc also. 4volumes of novel into 25episode anime. This is the case of angel beats! since the original script was hundred of pages then they shortened it into 13episode ani. |
Takana_no_HanaAug 1, 2012 3:58 AM
Nidhoeggr said: err... you just insulted the SAO fanbase right after telling someone how much you 'like' the fact that they insulted you. Criticism to do with the other person using insults won't really help you when you're 'clashing views' with someone else, as your bound to do so yourself anyway. By that logic Justin Bieber would be a good singer and the bible is the best book of the earth...popularity =/= quality. Most of you should've noticed that by now. And I like how you insult me in the very first sentence of your post, you are the type of mature viewer I expected from the SAO fanbase. Despite the initial premise, this anime is a failure so far and this can largely be contributed to the MC and the bad pacing. And as usual, younger MAL users hype this series to death. Guilty Crown of the season... I don't mean to start any kind of argument though, since we won't get anywhere when it's already obviously that I like SAO and you don't. That's fine and all, but I do have something to ask you. Is there a valid reason you're still watching this? I'm genuinely curious. 1) You're giving this a chance in case it gets better? 2) You actually find the series enjoyable? 3) You just want to tell everybody how much you hate it? 4) You're just completing this so when you get in an argument with a SAO fanboy, you can actually state valid points? 5) You're one of those 'completists' that apparently don't drop anything? Either way. |
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| I liked this episode. Especially the graphics *_* I wish that they somehow went together but then again, Kirito IS a solo player so yeah.. I'm hoping that they get onto the actual story line next ep |
s2012k1993 said: I agree with the fact that introducing side stories help the anime viewers understand Kirito and SAO better. Unfortunately, this particular episode fails at even that job, whereas the previous episodes at least had the right intentions. For a detailed argument, visit http://myanimelist.net/blog/s2012k1993 man i gotta say, reading your argument was really interesting, have you read the Light Novel? because it feels like you know the story and character developments inside out, noticing all that just by watching the episodes where it lacks major unlike the LN is pretty impressive, i couldn't have summed it up better myself and i have been reading the LN carefully. i would have to agree with all your points, episode 1 was brilliant but the rest of the episodes had noteworthy flaws but still added something to the table and explained something about the characters and SAO so it wasn't that bad, episode 4 i agree had waay too much fanservice, instead of sticking to the material in the LN, they randomly shoved fanservice of silica. btw in case you haven't read the LN, it explains how silica and pina met in the first stages of SAO and how important pina is to silica and their relationship as friends despite pina not being "real" The anime like you said failed to portray this and focused only on how she feels about kirito completely disregarding pina and how glad she felt when she obtained the flower and wanting to use the teleport crystal to revive pina sooner but refrained herself because teleportation crystals are extremely expensive and it was only meant to used when you are in danger, also the next town or safe zone was only an hour away "Now I can meet Pina in about an hour at the most--- She hugged her chest, which felt as if it were going to explode, and was just about to cross the bridge---" -silica (quoted from the LN) although i liked the way they stayed friends even though they had a massive level difference and wouldn't be able to see each other much, they much pretty much forgot about pina, its just like you said, its like asuna helping kirito to save sachi and kirito forgetting all about sachi when he gets the revival crystal |
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xTenshiAi said: I'm hoping that they get onto the actual story line next ep Nope, at least episode 5 and 6 will be another side story. But this time looks like it's going to be 1 arc divided into 2, because the nature of the arc itself. |
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Vhaeraun said: kaimax said: webkid94 said: Anyways good episode, but will there be more of these side stories? This is the rest before the start of the main story -Murder Case (next episode) (April 2024) -Warmth of the heart (June 2024) -Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer (August 2024 -Morning Dew Girl (October 2024) Unless I'm remembering wrong, Morning Dew Girl takes place during the main story so if they're going chronologically, they'll throw that in near the end of the main arc. Yeah, I was just listing the side stories without regarding the timeline too much. |
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kaimax said: Vhaeraun said: kaimax said: webkid94 said: Anyways good episode, but will there be more of these side stories? This is the rest before the start of the main story -Murder Case (next episode) (April 2024) -Warmth of the heart (June 2024) -Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer (August 2024 -Morning Dew Girl (October 2024) Unless I'm remembering wrong, Morning Dew Girl takes place during the main story so if they're going chronologically, they'll throw that in near the end of the main arc. Yeah, I was just listing the side stories without regarding the timeline too much. They will most likely not adapt Sound of Water, Sound of Hammer |
MrChu said: HUNTERMAD said: With the argument between the solos and Knights of Blood animated, maybe the duel will be animated too? Hopefully they do i saw the preview, it seems like they are also asuna is finally back!!! yataa!! with all these side stories its been a while since we last saw her, dam i miss her |
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kamikaze_1996 said: s2012k1993 said: I agree with the fact that introducing side stories help the anime viewers understand Kirito and SAO better. Unfortunately, this particular episode fails at even that job, whereas the previous episodes at least had the right intentions. For a detailed argument, visit http://myanimelist.net/blog/s2012k1993 man i gotta say, reading your argument was really interesting, have you read the Light Novel? because it feels like you know the story and character developments inside out, noticing all that just by watching the episodes where it lacks major unlike the LN is pretty impressive, i couldn't have summed it up better myself and i have been reading the LN carefully. i would have to agree with all your points, episode 1 was brilliant but the rest of the episodes had noteworthy flaws but still added something to the table and explained something about the characters and SAO so it wasn't that bad, episode 4 i agree had waay too much fanservice, instead of sticking to the material in the LN, they randomly shoved fanservice of silica. btw in case you haven't read the LN, it explains how silica and pina met in the first stages of SAO and how important pina is to silica and their relationship as friends despite pina not being "real" The anime like you said failed to portray this and focused only on how she feels about kirito completely disregarding pina and how glad she felt when she obtained the flower and wanting to use the teleport crystal to revive pina sooner but refrained herself because teleportation crystals are extremely expensive and it was only meant to used when you are in danger, also the next town or safe zone was only an hour away "Now I can meet Pina in about an hour at the most--- She hugged her chest, which felt as if it were going to explode, and was just about to cross the bridge---" -silica (quoted from the LN) although i liked the way they stayed friends even though they had a massive level difference and wouldn't be able to see each other much, they much pretty much forgot about pina, its just like you said, its like asuna helping kirito to save sachi and kirito forgetting all about sachi when he gets the revival crystal I did read the first two volumes after watching the third episode. I understand that the second volume was meant to deepen our understanding of Kirito from the first volume, however, the anime intends to directly implement the side stories as part of the main story. No longer are these episode just supplements, but they are crucial to character development. Therefore, the anime needed to take care and maybe even add extra material to incorporate the side stories as part of a coherent tale. I wasn't all too impressed with the LN's take on this side story, but I understood that it was written to just please the fans. However, the anime decided to air this side story right after the Red-Nosed Reindeer episode and that could have made this episode epic. Instead I was falling asleep watching this episode. |
WhiteBlue said: what do they do in this show exactly Clear the game by reaching the highest floor and defeat the final boss. |
HauntingShockAug 1, 2012 7:24 PM
HauntingShock said: WhiteBlue said: what do they do in this show exactly Clear the game by reaching the highest floor and defeat the final boss. hahaha, saying it like that is like saying code geass is about a guy who wants to kill his father or death note is about a guy who kills criminals theres just simply more to it than that |
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kamikaze_1996 said: MrChu said: HUNTERMAD said: With the argument between the solos and Knights of Blood animated, maybe the duel will be animated too? Hopefully they do i saw the preview, it seems like they are also asuna is finally back!!! yataa!! with all these side stories its been a while since we last saw her, dam i miss her Preview Link? Edit: Found it didn't see it before :P |
kamikaze_1996 said: HauntingShock said: WhiteBlue said: what do they do in this show exactly Clear the game by reaching the highest floor and defeat the final boss. hahaha, saying it like that is like saying code geass is about a guy who wants to kill his father or death note is about a guy who kills criminals theres just simply more to it than that lol But it's the simpliest way to put it :D |
cameron96 said: I love this show but I was kind of disapionted that we still haven't had any cameos or even side discussions of what Asuna is doing, but other than that i love this show it currently has a 10 out of 10 for me. That's to be expected. She wasn't even close to Kirito. And don't worry, next episode, she will be featured :D |
| Its been a long time since I saw a badass character in anime like this. |
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| ^ their levels would range from 40-55 he is not overpowered, anyone who has been fighting on the front lines most of the time would be able to take down those thugs, thats the difference in level of the people who risk their lives in the dungeons and the people who are in the lower levels and how is kirito being narcissistic? i doubt you even know what it means considering you can't even spell it, all kirito is doing is hunting down the orange players who was responsible for the deaths of many guilds, by putting an end to them he is saving people who might fall prey to them in the future, he is by no means showing off right now you are just being a big troll, the only thing i can agree with you on is the tentacle monster thing which was overused in the anime but considering the fact that they are trying to remain faithful to the LN, ecchi scenes will be a rare occurrence so i suppose they wanted to go all out on this episode, literally there's only like 2 ecchi moments including this one that appears in the whole of vol.1+2, |
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| lol haru and shu were both wimps at the start and then became awesome, while kirito was cool at the start and then became badass but i see where your coming from |
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kamikaze_1996 said: lol haru and shu were both wimps at the start and then became awesome, while kirito was cool at the start and then became badass but i see where your coming from Waaiit are we talking guilty crown in SAO or am i missing the joke ._. |
T3rm1n4t0r2 said: You brought Justin Bieber into this, my friend, as well as the Bible - which both can be seen as great works of art if you dont judge them by their covers and take a look on the inside. JB is not my favourite singer either, but Nobody can honestly say he is singing skills are low. He voice is quite something and as a musician, he is hard to beat. But even if you'd deny him that instrumental skills are Phenomenal, no question. Secondly, you're obviously just another sexist/ byist pricks to think that women love singers just because the guy has good looks. JB would never have made a singing career, had it not been for his Voice. Hm, "What is a voice, sir?" Let me help you out a little! Here: Idiot Dictionary: "Voice" - 'A little thing singers require to make money when SINGING"' Now, the only thing I can say truly that you're right about, as well as many others, is that: Yes, with them squeezing in the deaths and sadness he's undergone into only 3 episodes, it does make it hard to relate to this story and emphasize with him. But how all that stuff happens, it's not actually a bad story / story line and You should at least be able to understand that, seeing as though you see yourself as some kind of Anime Encyclopedia. But if you still think this is such a bad show then, fuck off, get the hell out, and go enjoy your "Kono Naka ni Hitori, Imou" and "Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse", ;) . Maybe you can suck in some "Queen Blade: Rebellion" as well. Ps - Big words like "Ad hominem", False words like "Fanboyism" and "Long, Hard to Follow, Sentences" will not make you sound more intelligent or even anymore experienced than you are. What it will do is show others that you're trying way to hard to make sure that only a small few will understand you enough, to reply back at your upsetting and fraud words. Your name is in l33tsp3aK (so cool), you call simple phrases such as ad hominem "big words" and deny that fanboyism exists? No use arguing with you, chances are you won't get what I tell you anyway. However, I admit defeat. I am too old to explain even basic concept to a brick wall. Enjoy SAO and while we're at it...watch Guilty Crown, Muv-Luv and Horizon as well. They belong in the same ategory , after all. And to the other person who replied to me: Yes, I try to be a completionist. |
NidhoeggrAug 2, 2012 2:41 PM
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MidnightPride said: kamikaze_1996 said: lol haru and shu were both wimps at the start and then became awesome, while kirito was cool at the start and then became badass but i see where your coming from Waaiit are we talking guilty crown in SAO or am i missing the joke ._. ? i dont know what your talking about :D |
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T3rm1n4t0r2 said: kamikaze_1996 said: MidnightPride said: kamikaze_1996 said: lol haru and shu were both wimps at the start and then became awesome, while kirito was cool at the start and then became badass but i see where your coming from Waaiit are we talking guilty crown in SAO or am i missing the joke ._. ? i dont know what your talking about :D Its not like he was always a baddass though, if you go far enough back, like to when he first decicded heliked life better when he was playin video games, he would have been a lousy gamer lool. We just never had to see him get his skills. true, i also remember that he was also socially awkward and a bit of a loner, he was immersed into games and didn't have much contact with people in the real world |
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T3rm1n4t0r2 said: And your name wass what again? "Niggahater"? I see your not only male byist and sexist, but a racist too! Your main problem is that you're actually too old to even watch anime and give valid pros and cons about this, still developing, art style. The reason being; the only good animes you ever watched prior to this were ones such as "Astro Boy!" How did you twist a name coming from Norse mythology into me being a racist? And were am a sexist? I could care less about gender or "race", if people are idiots I call them idiots. Do really need to pull out the Nazi card just because you run out of arguments? Really low, but I expected as much from someone like you. And now I will leave this forums for good, because honestly: Getting called a racist by someone who's probably under 15 and who has something against Astro Boy is the best indication for me to leave this series and its fanbase alone. You guys are so deluded, it just doesn't make sense to talk to you. |
NidhoeggrAug 3, 2012 1:39 AM
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Yanoflies said: Nice catch. Wonder what the animators were thinking.MidnightPride said: rimartwork said: this EP makes a huge mistake..and unforgiveable i'm disappointed..everything went smooth and THAT ruined the entire show, Are you sure that it is actually duel wielding and, not just a random mistake but, your right duel wielding should be a unique skill that they shouldn't have. I'll go back to that part and, check to see if it was just a mistake or if he was actually duel wielding Edit: I went back to check it and, ya it clearly shows him duel wielding axes images below. It's probably the animators fault not the story creators I don't think it's cause for concern. Holy shit I just realized. Wow, that's fucking bad. Wow. Although this is pretty bad, saying that this ruins the entire show is a bit... |
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Nidhoeggr said: And now I will leave this forums for good, because honestly: Getting called a racist by someone who's probably under 15 and who has something against Astro Boy is the best indication for me to leave this series and its fanbase alone. You guys are so deluded, it just doesn't make sense to talk to you. eat a dick Nidhoeggr, just because you have beef with T3rm1n4t0r2 doesn't give you the right to insult the people in this forum |
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chanotek said: Yanoflies said: Nice catch. Wonder what the animators were thinking.MidnightPride said: rimartwork said: this EP makes a huge mistake..and unforgiveable i'm disappointed..everything went smooth and THAT ruined the entire show, Are you sure that it is actually duel wielding and, not just a random mistake but, your right duel wielding should be a unique skill that they shouldn't have. I'll go back to that part and, check to see if it was just a mistake or if he was actually duel wielding Edit: I went back to check it and, ya it clearly shows him duel wielding axes images below. It's probably the animators fault not the story creators I don't think it's cause for concern. Holy shit I just realized. Wow, that's fucking bad. Wow. Although this is pretty bad, saying that this ruins the entire show is a bit... Agreed. Excellent catch, one that I didn't even notice so it didn't ruin my enjoyment of it ^_^ Everybody says the next episode is going to be crucial because it'll be a difficult conversion from LN into anime format given its complexities. If they pull it off - given the skill required - the rest of this series might be solid gold. |
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