bippo said: Abandoning monogatari after making promise that they will animate the whole series? Now again you are just talking nonsense and you are again in trolling mode? BTW, it is a wild claim to suggest that SZS was sacrificed for Bake anyway. Sales aren't good for monogatari this season anyways so I guess shaft will abandon it and finish that SZS ending. SZS was sacrificed for bake anyway so karma I guess. |
symbvAug 12, 2013 8:13 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
bippo said: More misleading claims from you to pull wool over a newcomer to MAL?Hmmm 20k min 35k max I guess? No way it would go to 50-60k with that pace. Unless Hirano got that seiyuu job to voice Ougi HAHA. . |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: hpulley said: So what could explain the astounding jump then? By the way, the CD is NOT a drama CD though...I looked for new extras for Uchoten Kazoku but found none. A keyword for this weekends show revealed only a new desktop image, no event ticket or other big bonus. The drama CD isn't new or big news. It is the preorder deadline and the last episode did reveal a lot of information but it wasn't world changing IMO. From the Bandai listing for volume 1: 有頂天家族 第一巻 発売日2013年09月25日ジャンルＴＶアニメ ... ■ドラマCD「冬の女神と毛玉たち」 The amazon exclusive listing calls it a 朗読のCD instead, recitation not drama. |
symbv said: hpulley said: So what could explain the astounding jump then? By the way, the CD is NOT a drama CD though...I looked for new extras for Uchoten Kazoku but found none. A keyword for this weekends show revealed only a new desktop image, no event ticket or other big bonus. The drama CD isn't new or big news. It is the preorder deadline and the last episode did reveal a lot of information but it wasn't world changing IMO. Bandai Channel's episode 1-6 free to watch marathon yesterday. |
| @hpulley I think we were talking about different thing. The drama CD may be not new but the AMAZON special extra, the recitation CD, seems to be new. Perhaps that explains the big jump today? 【Amazon.co.jp限定特典】 原作「有頂天家族」朗読CD「第一章 納涼床の女神」 朗読：能登麻美子 Perhaps that explains, though re-run of other series did not seem to have produced as drastic an effect on sales ranking. Perhaps the deadline of preorder also contributes to the boost as well. |
symbvAug 12, 2013 9:07 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
aiou said: bippo said: Chou,Nagi,Tia,Claris,Deco,Haly,Kuroneko etc...We got a bunch of them now. Hope they chart on oricon more. Not familiar with Tia... She sang some EDs already from a show I didn't watched perhaps? ClariS sings the Opening theme for Exstetra, I was squealing when I found out. |
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bippo said: I love Wooser and the song! Super cute voice!aiou said: bippo said: Chou,Nagi,Tia,Claris,Deco,Haly,Kuroneko etc...We got a bunch of them now. Hope they chart on oricon more. Not familiar with Tia... She sang some EDs already from a show I didn't watched perhaps? She sang the wooser ED. Just a short anime. But the song/show is well-known. They have doujins of the wooser girls at comiket the other day *winks* |
symbv said: Kaioshin_Sama said: You should and you knew you should get flak about this, because we have been discussing it for some time and still now you could not get rid of the thought that even KyoAni could not really sustain any "loyal buying" behavior. As I said, the sooner you are rid yourself of those association of sales performance or popularity measurement (in Japan) with those behavior and comments (presumably irritating to you) from western fandom, the better you are able to give fair comment to the performance of anime shows in Japan. symbv said: I know I'm going to get flack for this, but you're citing a Kyoani example and from everything I seen they practically don't play by the same rules as any other label out there. It's almost like they have a near limitless amount of leeway whereas others would get nailed to the wall by their respective core fanbases for pretty much the same thing. And we know a shift to serious tone does not always lead to drop in sales -- Chu2byo is a good example. As I said repeatedly before, what KyoAni could do at most is to raise expectation higher for its coming show but once the show starts they do not really get much leeway in terms of getting people to buy even if they are disappointed. What happened to Chu2byo just proved that people usually make the buying decision for the whole series instead of dropping abruptly in the middle, and it takes some really abrupt and unpopular change in the middle of series (for example the animation took a sharp turn for the worse) for sales to drop abruptly in the middle of the series (instead of the whole series getting less sales). I didn't mean that as a like, "Oh those Kyoani fans will buy anything" but more as it seems that their releases don't suffer things like 2nd season fatigue or post 1st volume dropoff all that much. An example would be like jmal is always pointing out with the consistency of the Hyouka volumes. One of the only other examples I can think of is Sunrise where second seasons trend up in sales as often as the other way around and stuff like Love Live just seems to have never ending tales. So yeah I was talking about consistency not blind buyer syndrome. Also Love Live is literally the number 1 DVD now. Who would have thunk it? Sunrise, much as I love their output more often than not there's another company that could share the wealth around sometimes for all the stuff they seem to produce seemingly magicing itself into the top 100 that you wouldn't expect to see there (Tiger and Bunny with it's 30 year old protagonist is just...wow even with Fujoshi support)......though I suppose they contribute back to the industry in their own ways by helping out on a lot of projects like Madoka (though they could have just smelled money and opportunity there all the same) and being one of the few studios I see in a position to and actively trying to develop interest in anime outside Japan first handed instead of through licensing. Anyway I'm starting to notice a trend where with the 5th episode of a lot of stuff there's a tremendous jump from obscurity to top 100 levels. It's curious, but it's been happening with more than a few things this summer. It's good that a lot of stuff is starting to pick up steam now even if I'm not all that fond of the offerings this season. People gotta feed those families and what not. bippo said: season anyways so I guess shaft will abandon it and finish that SZS ending. SZS was sacrificed for bake anyway so karma I guess. I think your definition of good vs. bad is more than a little off there. Anything above 10K is generally considered great. 20K indicates significant popularity. 30K+ you start to get golden. The problem is there's only a small handful of companies that regularly seem to be able to reach these numbers coughSunriseA1KyoanimaybeShafttoobutnotreallyconsistentlycough which is to borrow a term from Hockey culture "tough". |
PeacingOutAug 12, 2013 2:30 PM
jmal said: Thanks for the fucking spoilers, people. How utterly inconsiderate a person do you need to be, seriously? Since when was the weekly sales thread a series discussion thread? What anime did they spoil? I am too scared to look. |
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VioLink said: jmal said: Thanks for the fucking spoilers, people. How utterly inconsiderate a person do you need to be, seriously? Since when was the weekly sales thread a series discussion thread? What anime did they spoil? I am too scared to look. SnK(the identity of the female titan). I reported it 6 or so hours ago, so maybe it got removed by now. |
| ^^^ Still there, don't look! Speaking of don't look, I am afraid for Kotoura-san vol. 5 sales tomorrow... |
rederoin said: VioLink said: jmal said: Thanks for the fucking spoilers, people. How utterly inconsiderate a person do you need to be, seriously? Since when was the weekly sales thread a series discussion thread? What anime did they spoil? I am too scared to look. SnK(the identity of the female titan). I reported it 6 or so hours ago, so maybe it got removed by now. Oh, well I read the manga so I'm good. I notice it has been spoiled in the episode threads as well. |
VioLinkAug 12, 2013 6:15 PM
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VioLink said: rederoin said: VioLink said: jmal said: Thanks for the fucking spoilers, people. How utterly inconsiderate a person do you need to be, seriously? Since when was the weekly sales thread a series discussion thread? What anime did they spoil? I am too scared to look. SnK(the identity of the female titan). I reported it 6 or so hours ago, so maybe it got removed by now. Oh, well I read the manga so I'm good. I notice it has been spoiled in the episode threads as well. Thanks for the warnings, I haven't read the manga yet so the surprise really would have been ruined for me. Not sure if this has been said already since I'm now too afraid to look at the other posts, but I'm pretty surprised by how low Servant x Service's projected sales are with the comparisons to Working!! (and the same mangaka) which sold really well. |
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Hahalollawl said: Not sure what you want me to do.. Since spoiler can easily be posted by anyone here, should I put SPOILERS on the title of each thread? Think how ridiculous it would look if I put "Monogatari Spoilers" or "Shingeki Spoilers" in the title of this "Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Jul 29 - Aug 4" thread. I am not sure if you have really thought the idea through...If this is acceptable/going to be a regular thing, I think it might help if Symbv put SPOILERS in the title of the thread. And a news mods has no authority of editing other people's post (except the very first one that starts the thread) so even if I want to add spoiler tag in someone's post I can't. For this kind of thing, you have to use the "Report" button that comes with every post to report the post to a forum mods and ask him/her to do it. taketori said: Don't forget the manga of SerSer sold less than one third of Working!! manga though. So from the beginning the fanbase of SerSer is much smaller than Working!! although I do agree that it could have performed better -- I wonder if this is a general malaise that affects almost all titles in this cour. but I'm pretty surprised by how low Servant x Service's projected sales are with the comparisons to Working!! (and the same mangaka) which sold really well. |
symbvAug 12, 2013 10:25 PM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
VioLink said: rederoin said: VioLink said: jmal said: Thanks for the fucking spoilers, people. How utterly inconsiderate a person do you need to be, seriously? Since when was the weekly sales thread a series discussion thread? What anime did they spoil? I am too scared to look. SnK(the identity of the female titan). I reported it 6 or so hours ago, so maybe it got removed by now. Oh, well I read the manga so I'm good. I notice it has been spoiled in the episode threads as well. Well, it was really obivous, even without reading the manga. I'm surprised there are people who haven't immediately noticed the identity of the female titan... |
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Hahalollawl said: Since every thread can have someone writes some spoiler in it, should I put "possible spoiler" in the title of every thread here? It would look rather crowded and unseemly for the top page of News Board, don't you think? As for "no spoilers", there is already MAL rules specifying that spoiler discussion should be placed inside spoiler tags, don't you think the user needs to be a good citizen here instead of mods babysitting them about the rules at every turn? rather just putting something like "possible spoilers" in the title would warn anyone who might click on the thread that inconsiderate people may spoil whatever series for you. Edit: Or maybe do the opposite, and put NO SPOILERS in the title to remind people? Just some suggestions. Hahalollawl said: User in MAL should read the rules and follow them when they post. It is a forum that people are free to post, so we put a substantial amount of trust on the users here to follow the rules. Mods resource is limited and so it is unlikely they can police every thread around. This is why we encourage users to report problematic posts by using the "report" button.The problem with the report button is I have to see the spoiler in order to report it, and I'd rather just avoid seeing it at all. Also, maybe if they gave news mods the ability to put the spoiler tag in other people's posts then you could fix it. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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