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| The intensely sad conclusion of the OVA. It is enough to choke one up, I think. |
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| One of the saddest endings ever! :'( |
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| anime get 10/10, allot better then the TV series. now i know why its rated so high... |
| A favorite, actually one out of the two tens on my anime list. (I think the other ten is something else RK related) The first two episodes didn't drag me in, in fact I'm not sure when I considered this my favorite anime ever. All I remember is I choked at the end, and have now re-watched it a lot. Also I think the unfulfilled feeling is something they want you to get, so you will go and watch the anime/manga (Even if you already have) |
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| That was infinitely better than the main series. The ending was very fitting too, something I can't say a lot nowadays about...anything. |
| Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. |
Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. |
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Confucius said: Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. Considering that this is a prequel, I don't need to see it. |
Tyestor said: Confucius said: Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. Considering that this is a prequel, I don't need to see it. The OVA was made 1999, the series started in 1996. It's not actually a prequel, it almost like a side story, but in a sense it is a prequel. |
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Confucius said: Tyestor said: Confucius said: Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. Considering that this is a prequel, I don't need to see it. The OVA was made 1999, the series started in 1996. It's not actually a prequel, it almost like a side story, but in a sense it is a prequel. I didn't see the series first. and i still loved it, lawlz wats up with you? jkjk..... |
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Confucius said: Tyestor said: Confucius said: Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. Considering that this is a prequel, I don't need to see it. The OVA was made 1999, the series started in 1996. It's not actually a prequel, it almost like a side story, but in a sense it is a prequel. Just because it was made after the original series doesn't mean it's not a prequel. |
Tyestor said: Confucius said: Tyestor said: Confucius said: Tyestor said: Dunno why this is rated so highly, wasn't as good as I expected it to be. That's because you haven't even seen the actual series, Rurouni Kenshin. Considering that this is a prequel, I don't need to see it. The OVA was made 1999, the series started in 1996. It's not actually a prequel, it almost like a side story, but in a sense it is a prequel. Just because it was made after the original series doesn't mean it's not a prequel. Have you even read the Manga? This so called "prequel" takes place after the series. |
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| What is this stupid discussion going on? Prequel, like the name says, takes place before the main story. Doesn't need to happen before the main story, it just needs to happen before something. It doesn't matter if Tsuiokuhen was made before or after, it's still a prequel to the series. That doesn't mean that it won't be helpful watching the first installments first, since sometimes watching chronoligically doesn't mean watching the right-way. I usually watch stuff the order they are aired/published, that's how the director would want his work to be experienced. I honestly think that people watching Tsuiokuhen without first watching the TV series (up to a certain point, because it remains as pointless fillers after that) won't fully enjoy this OVA, as per why... that would need yet another big explanation >_> |
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Veethorn said: What is this stupid discussion going on? Prequel, like the name says, takes place before the main story. Doesn't need to happen before the main story, it just needs to happen before something. It doesn't matter if Tsuiokuhen was made before or after, it's still a prequel to the series. That doesn't mean that it won't be helpful watching the first installments first, since sometimes watching chronoligically doesn't mean watching the right-way. I usually watch stuff the order they are aired/published, that's how the director would want his work to be experienced. I honestly think that people watching Tsuiokuhen without first watching the TV series (up to a certain point, because it remains as pointless fillers after that) won't fully enjoy this OVA, as per why... that would need yet another big explanation >_> Not entirely true I say... I remember watching several episode of Rurouni Kenshin with my cousins. (As well as reading the manga) and I have to say, I didn't enjoy it too much. (I can't really stand comedic yet secretly badass main lead, I care so little for it I don't even remember the story and everything, only the name Kenshin.) Which is the reason why it took me this long to give this OVA a go... This OVA is Great! I don't think watching the series first would be necessary for this truly well made OVA. |
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| i probably would've given this a higher note if i watched the series first...but i don't plan on doing this so... 5/10(close to 6 :p) |
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| A very tragic end... |
clannad4ever said: i probably would've given this a higher note if i watched the series first...but i don't plan on doing this so... 5/10(close to 6 :p) wtf you're tripping. a perfect 10 |
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| So in the end, this turned out to be pretty great. It was very real, honest, humble and beautiful in its simplicity. I'm glad it wasn't taken over the top in the finale. Oh and by the way, the animation and art were downright gorgeous, different from what I've seen thus far. |
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| This would the my third time through the OVA's. I originally watched the OVA's before I even knew the TV series exsisted. I honestly regret it. After I watched the TV series, I went right back and rewatched the OVA's and the movie. Watching the TV series first made watching the OVA's a good 3 times more enjoyable for myself. Throughout the TV series, it leaves you questioning exactly what made Kenshin decide to switch to the reverse blade sword and use it to save lives instead of ending them, (minor TV series spoiler) |
| Uggh, I saw 2 minutes of an episode and hated it. Do I really need to watch the TV series? I can only expect it to contaminate this OVA by being associated with it. I already think 1 of the 3 imperfections of this OVA is that the ending is partly dedicated to setting the scene for the series, thus leaving a sort of unsettled feeling afterwards. I might be better off pretending the TV series doesn't exist. |
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| I haven't seen much of the series, but I think it is more than a little unfair to decide you hate it just because you've seen 2 minutes of one episode. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| That is a fair point. I think maybe I'll make plans to eventually watch the first episode. |
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Seabury said: That is a fair point. I think maybe I'll make plans to eventually watch the first episode. The series, even though totally different in mood for the most part, sets up the OVA really nicely. After you have seen the series(till the Shishio arc), you really WANT to know what happened to Kenshin during the rebellion. And the contrast in mood and quality just makes the OVA a much better experience. |
Sapta said: Seabury said: That is a fair point. I think maybe I'll make plans to eventually watch the first episode. The series, even though totally different in mood for the most part, sets up the OVA really nicely. After you have seen the series(till the Shishio arc), you really WANT to know what happened to Kenshin during the rebellion. And the contrast in mood and quality just makes the OVA a much better experience. well actually it depends. For people who liked the series, this might be an enhanced experience and better watched AFTER the series. But for people like me who hate shounen cliches, there's no reason to wade through the series cuz I really didn't care about the kenshin in the TV series. The OVA on the other hand is completely different in theme, character development, story etc, so I viewed this as a completely different anime, and I still thought this was a masterpiece even though I hated the series. That said, i dont think the series sets up the OVA (as some fans claim) or vice-versa; they are entirely different in almost every way possible except for the name of the protagonist. Hell even his personality is entirely different in the two versions. |
eyerokNov 6, 2010 3:50 PM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| @ eyerok Just to play devil's advocate, it could be argued that the events in the OVA are what shaped him into who he is in the tv series. Does that not explain the difference in personalities? Remember there is a 10 year difference. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| we could pretend that, and it would make sense too if you enjoyed the TV series as well. But then wouldn't we miss the truth i.e: the TV series kenshin is a modeled to be a perfect shounen hero, while the OVA one is a more mature kenshin to reflect the dark seinen theme of the OVA. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Hah, I was so used to seeing eyerock in the "Legend of the Gatlactic Heroes" threads that I thought I had clicked on the wrong link! So it seems like viewing the TV series is important because it sets up the OVA nicely? But if I've already watched the OVA (twice!), then it's really probably too late to appreciate how the TV series sets up the OVA, especially since it seems to be the shounen stereotype which I also hate. I'm still planning to watch it though, that damn curiosity won't leave me alone! |
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Seabury said: So it seems like viewing the TV series is important because it sets up the OVA nicely? that's what some of the fans say, especially the ones who like the TV series. But that's not necessarily true. I think opinion here is split between two camps; on one hand some claim that the OVA is more enjoyable after watching the TV series, and on the other hand are those (like me) who think that's not true since they both represent completely different experiences. dont sweat it though, you didnt miss much. But if you're a fan of shounen genre, you can check the TV series too. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| I think the series has earned a spot near #200 on my to-watch list. In other words, only when I *completely* run out of other things to watch. Or, I'll watch it before dragonball z :P |
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| LOL. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| So, I'm reading the manga version of Rurouni Kenshin. I'd say just skip the tv series entirely, if you don't have a aversion to manga that is. It seems to weave in Kenshin's past in a way that doesn't make Kenshin out to be the stereotypical shounen protagonist eyerok claims him to be. Still, I do prefer Trust and Betrayal though... At least so far. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| He might as well compare him to Naruto... |
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| I wouldn't use the word 'stereotypical', but kenshin in TV anime is tailor made for a leading shounen role. His personality is similar to vash the stampede (who's more goofy, from the 2-3 eps of trigun I've seen), and Abel nightroad from trinity blood. Super bad-ass, with a dark/tragic past, sometimes goofy and innocent etc my point is that kenshins personality goes have elements of cliche, some generic traits. |
eyerokNov 21, 2010 8:58 AM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| @ eyerok Of course, the one important thing to think of is that Kenshin DID come before those two examples. So, if anything, he is the one who influenced those two. Of course, there maybe an example from before him. I don't know, off the top of my head. Also, as much as I like Vash. Kenshin is generally handled way better than him. I think the problems with the manga are more the manga in general than his character. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: . I think the problems with the manga are more the manga in general than his character. Have to admit, that's quite true. There's nothing wrong with the character itself. If Kenshin did influence Vash and Abel, then it makes more sense. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
Seabury said: That is a fair point. I think maybe I'll make plans to eventually watch the first episode. Your obviously a troll lol. You have to be seriously joking. You can't make a judgment based on only 2 min of an episode, either that or anime is just not for you. You have to have a little more patience and a open mind then that. Thats ridiculous. |
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| Why not, there's about a million anime out there, right? If I made too hasty a judgement, then at worst I've put off a potentially good series to watch other potentially good series. Now, obviously if there were lots of intelligent reviewers whom I looked up to calling it the greatest masterpiece in all of anime, I would be a fool for judging it so quickly. Since most of the reviewers that I tend to agree with dislike the series, instead I can say "hah hah suckers, you were my guinea pigs!" and walk away reasonably confident I didn't miss anything great. Of course, I'm not denying that I'm ridiculous... |
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SoFarGone said: clannad4ever said: i probably would've given this a higher note if i watched the series first...but i don't plan on doing this so... 5/10(close to 6 :p) wtf you're tripping. a perfect 10 If the characters were all Kawaii looking and the female character(s) was a mentally broken high school girl who will eventually fall for the zero-dimensional male main character and something tragic happens, then I think it would have gotten a 10/10 |
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Confucius said: SoFarGone said: clannad4ever said: i probably would've given this a higher note if i watched the series first...but i don't plan on doing this so... 5/10(close to 6 :p) wtf you're tripping. a perfect 10 If the characters were all Kawaii looking and the female character(s) was a mentally broken high school girl who will eventually fall for the zero-dimensional male main character and something tragic happens, then I think it would have gotten a 10/10 Clannad? |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Sad that it had to end that way. stAtic91 said: The first two episodes didn't really capture me, but the last two focusing more on Tomoe and Himura were really nice. Sadface conclusion. The scene where Himura is resting and you see Tomoe embracing him from behind was very sad. This. Yeah... That scene was sad and pretty powerful, I think. As was the part where Tomoe drew the blade slightly across Himura's cheek. Unfortunately this OVA didn't dazzle and astound me as it did others, it seems. (Must be something wrong with me? Ahah...) |
| I will be frank to say that I didn't read every single volume of Kenshin ( manga ) but I do know his backdrop story. I already knew what will happen , just short of the nitty gritty details, and this still manage move me. It portrays so much emotions, meaningful subtle actions, accompanied with some of the most beautiful and gut-wrenching ost. This OVA will stay as one of my fond memories of kenshin franchise. |
| Fantastic OVA. It really captured me and I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. |
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| I thought this was beautiful, although I had these OVAs completely spoiled already, they were wonderful. 9/10. |
| Really good Ending! Love this OVA, it's sad and yet so awesome. Will rewatch it someday, surely! Masterprice10/10 |
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| Received my blu ray copy today and told myself "there's no way im going to cry after watching Tsuiokuhen again". I really tried to hold it in but after all these years, it still got me and tears started flowing nonstop lol. |
| I already own the old version, but I decided to order the blu ray one. thanks for the heads up! :v |
DJFCSep 3, 2011 6:49 PM
| What a sad masterpiece 10/10 |
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