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Apr 15, 2016 12:23 PM

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About the Scum Challenge description
A few are so rare that they will be very hard to find. Even if you do find them, those are most likely torrents or unsubbed.

I actually skipped anime that isn't subbed/dubbed in English, so those listed should be either subbed or doesn't need subs at all.
You all need to watch Nami.

Apr 15, 2016 7:03 PM

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abystoma2 said:
About the Scum Challenge description
A few are so rare that they will be very hard to find. Even if you do find them, those are most likely torrents or unsubbed.

I actually skipped anime that isn't subbed/dubbed in English, so those listed should be either subbed or doesn't need subs at all.

Subbed or not, still very rare to search for and most likely have to be torrented.
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For the scum challenge ,only 99 series are listed. #83 is missing.

Yeah, done. Complete 100.
Apr 16, 2016 1:13 AM

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Collection Challenge for the Hidamari Collection

Hidamari Sketch Specials goes to Negima!? Haru Special!? instead.
Apr 16, 2016 2:33 AM

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A Kyoto Animation studio challenge would be good, so I put one together myself. For some of the bonus section I wasn't sure if they should be added to the actual list (Such as Full Metal Panic!, as KyoAni picked it after the first season was made). Feel free to change anything, but I hope it's ok!

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Collection Challenge for the Hidamari Collection

Hidamari Sketch Specials goes to Negima!? Haru Special!? instead.

Fixed. Thank you.
Apr 16, 2016 3:26 AM

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taximals said:
Nurse Witch Komugi-chan Magikarte - 0/2 - Couldn't easily find English subs

They are on BakaBT.
You all need to watch Nami.

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taximals said:
A Kyoto Animation studio challenge would be good, so I put one together myself. For some of the bonus section I wasn't sure if they should be added to the actual list (Such as Full Metal Panic!, as KyoAni picked it after the first season was made). Feel free to change anything, but I hope it's ok!


Added, hue tyvm.
Apr 16, 2016 4:31 AM

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At least Munto and Munto: Toki no Kabe wo Koete should be moved from Bonus to Munto, the subs are easily findable.
You all need to watch Nami.

Apr 16, 2016 5:11 AM

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IMKZ said:

Added, hue tyvm.

Thanks for adding it!

Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu isn't by KyoAni btw
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taximals said:
IMKZ said:

Added, hue tyvm.

Thanks for adding it!

Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu isn't by KyoAni btw

Un.
Apr 16, 2016 11:25 AM

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With all these studio specific challenges coming out I figured I'd help and put together one for Brain's Base, since I imagine the plan is to have one for each of the larger studios. Hopefully this is okay!

Also, props to everyone else putting the challenges together; this took longer than I anticipated.

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riho88riho said:
Agreed. I'll put it together; as long as it doesn't have 25 or more overlapping series, I'll make it a challenge


I just cross-checked both lists and there are 27 overlapping series:

1. Death Note (#33)
2. Sword Art Online
3. Shingeki no Kyojin (#66)
4. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (#2)
5. Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch (#17)
6. Angel Beats!
7. Naruto
8. Bleach
9. Steins;Gate (#3)
10. Elfen Lied
11. Mirai Nikki (TV)
12. Toradora!
13. Fullmetal Alchemist
14. Soul Eater
15. Clannad
16. Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 (#11)
17. Fairy Tail
18. Ao no Exorcist
19. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (#26)
20. Durarara!!
21. Tokyo Ghoul
22. No Game No Life (#97)
23. Highschool of the Dead
24. Naruto: Shippuuden
25. Another
26. Sword Art Online II
27. One Piece
28. Bakemonogatari
29. Kill la Kill
30. Psycho-Pass (#90)
31. Cowboy Bebop (#22)
32. Neon Genesis Evangelion
33. Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica (#83)
34. Noragami
35. Clannad: After Story (#9)
36. Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi (#14)
37. Guilty Crown
38. Darker than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha
39. Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae wo Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai. (#50)
40. Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
41. Akame ga Kill!
42. Deadman Wonderland
43. Ouran Koukou Host Club
44. Fate/Zero (#79)
45. Kuroshitsuji
46. One Punch Man (#13)
47. K-On!
48. Samurai Champloo
49. Kaichou wa Maid-sama!
50. Hataraku Maou-sama!
51. High School DxD
52. Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
53. Fate/stay night
54. Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu (#60)
55. Dragon Ball Z
56. Log Horizon
57. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
58. Hunter x Hunter (2011) (#5)
59. Baccano! (#74)
60. Hyouka
61. Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo
62. Tokyo Ghoul √A
63. Zero no Tsukaima
64. Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso (#15)
65. Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
66. Kyoukai no Kanata
67. Ookami to Koushinryou
68. D.Gray-man
69. Black Lagoon
70. Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru.
71. Howl no Ugoku Shiro (#34)
72. Death Parade
73. Gintama (#10)
74. Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai
75. Mononoke Hime (#24)
76. Nisekoi
77. Fate/Zero 2nd Season (#30)
78. Claymore
79. Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
80. Accel World
81. Lucky☆Star
82. Kuroko no Basket (#94)
83. Zankyou no Terror
84. Btooom!
85. Hellsing
86. Toaru Majutsu no Index
87. Byousoku 5 Centimeter
88. Dragon Ball
89. FLCL
90. Shakugan no Shana
91. Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
92. Rosario to Vampire
93. Kimi ni Todoke
94. Black Bullet
95. Vampire Knight
96. Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?
97. Mushishi (#29)
98. Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic
99. Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka
100. NHK ni Youkoso!
Apr 16, 2016 6:32 PM

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How about creating a Tvtropes challenge? Basically choosing 6 random tropes from TVTropes and watch 5 anime series listed under the trope. Challenger can spam the trope button if the selected trope doesn't have any anime series examples and/or less than 5 series listed. The trope must include series that the challenger hasn't seen before and the series cannot be use for multiple tropes.

This idea from taken from the 2016 AWC.
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Are you going to add season 5 of Natsume Yuujinchou to the list for the Brain's Base Challenge? :3 It airs this fall lol
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SecretDinosaur said:
Are you going to add season 5 of Natsume Yuujinchou to the list for the Brain's Base Challenge? :3 It airs this fall lol

Then it will be added when fall comes.
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SecretDinosaur said:
Are you going to add season 5 of Natsume Yuujinchou to the list for the Brain's Base Challenge? :3 It airs this fall lol


Actually, it looks like Natsume Yuujinchou Go will not be by Brain's Base but by Shuka instead.
Apr 17, 2016 12:16 PM

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As always, thank you for adding new challenges~!

Getting it out though, imo the studio challenges are not good. Why not let the participants pick what they want to watch instead of forcing them to watch the most popular franchises? Makes no sense to me.
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SunflowerDaisho said:
SecretDinosaur said:
Are you going to add season 5 of Natsume Yuujinchou to the list for the Brain's Base Challenge? :3 It airs this fall lol


Actually, it looks like Natsume Yuujinchou Go will not be by Brain's Base but by Shuka instead.


Oh I didn't even notice that :/
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abystoma2 said:
taximals said:
Nurse Witch Komugi-chan Magikarte - 0/2 - Couldn't easily find English subs

They are on BakaBT.


abystoma2 said:
At least Munto and Munto: Toki no Kabe wo Koete should be moved from Bonus to Munto, the subs are easily findable.


As is Shiawasette Naani which too is on BBT.
Apr 17, 2016 6:25 PM

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sbyrstall said:
I wonder if it's possible to remove the poll. Seems meaningless.
Can't - I've tired lol
Apr 17, 2016 8:47 PM

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KyoAni Challenge

Nichijou: Tanken Nichijou no Machi
is not fully subbed, only 3 eps got done by Loli-Subs and the other 10 have been left abandoned to my knowledge. They are speech/pun heavy.
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abystoma2 said:
At least Munto and Munto: Toki no Kabe wo Koete should be moved from Bonus to Munto, the subs are easily findable.
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KyoAni Challenge

Nichijou: Tanken Nichijou no Machi
is not fully subbed, only 3 eps got done by Loli-Subs and the other 10 have been left abandoned to my knowledge. They are speech/pun heavy.

Done.
Apr 18, 2016 1:50 AM

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Just a small detail: Hentai, Yuri and Yaoi shouldn't even be a bonus in the genre-series challenge. There's literally no anime of said genres that's "TV" type.

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Apr 18, 2016 4:47 AM

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Akai_Shuichi said:
Just a small detail: Hentai, Yuri and Yaoi shouldn't even be a bonus in the genre-series challenge. There's literally no anime of said genres that's "TV" type.
Actually, they're not listed as bonus they're just kind of sitting there in gray showing they're not required XD I didn't even bother to check if there were any TV types for them lol
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By bonus I just meant they're not obligatory. Just pointing out that they don't even exist, so those are just simply impossible even if you live in Japan and happen to have the biggest video collection ever or something.

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Akai_Shuichi said:
By bonus I just meant they're not obligatory. Just pointing out that they don't even exist, so those are just simply impossible even if you live in Japan and happen to have the biggest video collection ever or something.
I know whatcha meant =p I'll take 'em off in a few minutes, I was working on other club stuff so I haven't gotten around to it
Apr 18, 2016 9:39 AM

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Amitte_Sukku said:

Getting it out though, imo the studio challenges are not good. Why not let the participants pick what they want to watch instead of forcing them to watch the most popular franchises? Makes no sense to me.

For some challenges, like Exposures or Genre Challenges, you can choose (more or less) what do you want to watch for the challenge. For others, like Anime-Theme based, Collection, Top 100 or these Creator based you just have to watch watch certain anime, that's the type of challenge is. And it's not really "forcing" you to watch it, you can always choose to do only some challenges. On the contrary, you have to watch even the "underground" works of the creator. As a completionst, that's why I like both the Anime-Theme based and Creator-based challenges - for the feel of having watched everything from certain franchise or creator.
You all need to watch Nami.

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abystoma2 said:
But just to be sure, by " Movies and OVAs (with atleast 5 episodes) are allowed", you mean either movie or 5+ episodes OVA, not 5+ episodes movie, right?


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OVA's with at least 5 episodes not movies. Sorry for the confusion! Lol I was trying to make it a challenge within reason since some OVAs are only an episode or two. But that way people can freely choose between series/ovas/movies.


Just moving this here to keep the submission thread clear for voters or submitters =D Thank ya both for participating~!
Apr 19, 2016 7:07 AM

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@namea I like your entry too for the May submissions, I just picked a theme, it wasn't really based on a month :3 lol.
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I saw the update on the Ultimate Challenge but... is Taiyou no Ko Esteban actually available? It was a while ago, but I once did try to specifically search for that series and had no luck finding it.

If anything, it'd be great news for me if it is, but I don't think it's available, unless that changed at some point in time.

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Akai_Shuichi said:
I saw the update on the Ultimate Challenge but... is Taiyou no Ko Esteban actually available? It was a while ago, but I once did try to specifically search for that series and had no luck finding it.

If anything, it'd be great news for me if it is, but I don't think it's available, unless that changed at some point in time.

There are torrents available for that. As for stream, I checked the popular sites and saw that there is only dub for Taiyou no Ko Esteban.

Good thing is that the dubs are full.
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@Akai_Shuichi - yeah, I didn't look too hard so I don't know if there are subs for it, but I did find the dub on Kiss.Anime. Not sure I'd trust the torrents to have seeders XD
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^ Checked: two episodes with subs for Taiyou no Ko Esteban (torrent) and whether torrent or stream, only the dub version is to be found. (Dub ver. has quite the number of seeders, actually)
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There's unfinished spoiler for the Ultimate challenge (Pic)
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Riho, just another small detail: I finished the LoGH Collection before joining club, not on April 9th (you probably put April 9th because I posted it with a lot of collections I finished that day).

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I think we need remove "dub only" anime from the challenges because not all are english speakers.
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kofmaster said:
I think we need remove "dub only" anime from the challenges because not all are english speakers.

Ah - that is very true. But... with the exception of the most recently mentioned anime added to that challenge, is there an easy way to tell which are dub-only? I'll be honest, I don't want to go back through that list researching XD it was a pain the first time haha

@Akai_Shuichi - fixed =p
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kofmaster said:
I think we need remove "dub only" anime from the challenges because not all are english speakers.

By same logic, english sub only also need to be removed since not all people can read english.

I would say dub counts as perfectly fine form of translated anime if there are no subs as an alternative. Certainly better than watching raws. Dub only anime should stay. And I'm saying this as a person whose first language isn't english.
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abystoma2 said:
kofmaster said:
I think we need remove "dub only" anime from the challenges because not all are english speakers.

By same logic, english sub only also need to be removed since not all people can read english.

I would say dub counts as perfectly fine form of translated anime if there are no subs as an alternative. Certainly better than watching raws. Dub only anime should stay. And I'm saying this as a person whose first language isn't english.

Because English is my first language, how hard is it to follow along with an English dub? I'd assume it's still easier than following along with a Japanese dub, but I don't know a second language so this isn't something I can understand and/or compare to and I'd like to be as fair to everyone as possible.
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Well I don't think it's a problem. Non english spakers can argue when they find a non-subtitled anime. I don't think that can become a frequent situation anyway.

By same logic, english sub only also need to be removed since not all people can read english.


By same logic a Chinesse dub is fine too.
For non English speakers is normal not understand the dubbing but still able to read subtitles.


Because English is my first language, how hard is it to follow along with an English dub?


For non English spakears is a pain because the vocabulary and intonation xD, worse when they speak very fast and you cant follow them.
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kofmaster said:
Well I don't think it's a problem. Non english spakers can argue when they find a non-subtitled anime. I don't think that can become a frequent situation anyway.

By same logic, english sub only also need to be removed since not all people can read english.


By same logic a Chinesse dub is fine too.
For non English speakers is normal not understand the dubbing but still able to read subtitles.

I mean for non English spakears is a pain to complete these challenges xD.

Well - we could allow a language barrier alternative where they have to watch a different series that aired in the same year (disregarding seasons in this case since the older ones get super hard to find in other languages besides Jap.)

This way they're still watching old stuff and the same number of series as the rest... xD that sound acceptable?
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Sounds like a plan, i like it :v
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Because English is my first language, how hard is it to follow along with an English dub? I'd assume it's still easier than following along with a Japanese dub, but I don't know a second language so this isn't something I can understand and/or compare to and I'd like to be as fair to everyone as possible.

The subs are easier to follow, but the difference isn't that big, I would say. It's just a matter of getting used to it. I prefer subs mainly because I prefer the original dubbing, but if there's a series that has only dub, I'm glad it has at least that.

I remember when I was younger and I had a bit of problem understanding english sub. But I just kept watching (mainly because lot of anime just isn't translated in my native language), and the problem just kinda disappeared after a while.

kofmaster said:

By same logic a Chinesse dub is fine too.

Not really, since one would say MAL users should understand at least enough English to get what is going on, since MAL is kinda...English site.
I guess chinese dub would be okay if it had english sub. Well, that is actually kinda norm for these chinese anime on MAL. Those that are translated, that is.

Also, there are very few anime that have only dub and no sub, and most of these are only for the Ultimate and Scum challenge, I don't remember seeing one such anime as compulsory outside these two. And these two are already about unknown and sometimes harder to get anime, so I think they should stay to keep the atmosphere of these challenges.

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Well - we could allow a language barrier alternative where they have to watch a different series that aired in the same year (disregarding seasons in this case since the older ones get super hard to find in other languages besides Jap.)?

I'm not sure I quite understand how that would work, but do I get it right that you first get an anime that fits the requirement for the challenge, then find out only dub is available so you watch another anime aired same year as the first anime? So for example for Panzer Dragoon from Scum Challange, the participant could just watch whatever aired in 1996? Wouldn't that kinda beat the purpose?
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You all need to watch Nami.

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I personally don't mind that much because in the end I think of the badges as mere decorations. I love to take the challenges, and in the end, in my head my rules will rules over any challenge rule that I don't like.

For example, even though I'd say I'm one of the few who has a decent amount of progress in the Ultimate Challenge, I know I won't officially complete it because there's no subs for Tetsuwan Atom, and the series doesn't really appeal to me by itself, with dubs it become even worse for me (that's obviously completely subjective. With the same line of logic someone can prefer dubs). I just know I won't go and watch 193 episodes of dubbed Tetsuwan Atom. And to be fair, Atom is just an example, as I know there's more. But I am happy just completing it as much as I can and want

In my personal case, english is not my first language... but I do consider it pretty close, as I studied in a british school, my hobbies have always been in english and I work mostly with english speaking countries (or random language speaking countries which translates into english conversations).

Oh, and while I can understand dubs just fine (though I don't like them in any language at all, I admit), I do know for sure that for people that only speaks a little of a language (be it english or whatever) it is much easier to read than listen (unless the language has a different alphabet xD).

Like I said, I don't really care that much. I appreciate the challenges the way they are. They've already helped discovering a couple of extra materials from different franchise, gave me the final push to start watching Major and made me watch a number of OVAs and Specials that who know if I'd ever watch if it wasn't for these challenges... and some of them have been quite good. Completing the challenge and getting the badge is just secondary to me... I mean, in the end, if that was the most important, I could just go and just fake everything I watched. It's more a thing of personal accomplishment.

All of that said, just be careful with that theme... Life has taught me that in anime communities, talking about dubs and subs is like stepping on a landmine.

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abystoma2 said:


riho88riho said:
Well - we could allow a language barrier alternative where they have to watch a different series that aired in the same year (disregarding seasons in this case since the older ones get super hard to find in other languages besides Jap.)?

I'm not sure I quite understand how that would work, but do I get it right that you first get an anime that fits the requirement for the challenge, then find out only dub is available so you watch another anime aired same year as the first anime? So for example for Panzer Dragoon from Scum Challange, the participant could just watch whatever aired in 1996? Wouldn't that kinda beat the purpose?



I would imagine here Riho was thinking about the Ultimate Challenge more than the Scum challenge. If anything, in the case of the Scum Challenge, you'd have to replace Panzer Dragoon for whatever ranks 101st from the bottom.... What I mean is... watch the bottom 100 subbed series.

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Akai_Shuichi said:

If anything, in the case of the Scum Challenge, you'd have to replace Panzer Dragoon for whatever ranks 101st from the bottom.... What I mean is... watch the bottom 100 subbed series.

Yeah, I guess that would work fine in a case of emergency.
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abystoma2 said:
I'm not sure I quite understand how that would work, but do I get it right that you first get an anime that fits the requirement for the challenge, then find out only dub is available so you watch another anime aired same year as the first anime? So for example for Panzer Dragoon from Scum Challange, the participant could just watch whatever aired in 1996? Wouldn't that kinda beat the purpose?

Yes, as Akai said, this would only apply to the Ultimate Challenge. All the rest will stay as is for all other challenges.

Akai_Shuichi said:
All of that said, just be careful with that theme... Life has taught me that in anime communities, talking about dubs and subs is like stepping on a landmine.

I appreciate your insight for the language barrier. For your warning... I think it might be best if I heed it xD I don't want to get into that landmine WITH language ontop of it >.<;; my gosh will this get ugly fast... LMAO

I'd still like to be as fair as possible, regardless of langauge, but I don't see a clean solution to the Eng-Dub-Only issue >.> even for the Ultimate Challenge year-alternative, that still wouldn't work in your example of Tetsuwan Atom ;_;


On a side note - one of the reasons it might be in the top 100 worst rated on MAL might be due to its English dub XD haha
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If is a problematic issue just forget it, I don't want to cause problems making landmines xD.
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http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1479633
Can you make the challenge and collection titles a hyperlink to the challenge/collection itself.

And a heads up for the KyoAni challenge.
Musaigen no Phantom World has picture dramas on the DVD/BD releases. So a MAL entry will be accepted/created soon (theoretically, sometimes it takes a month till they approve a modern anime). May 11th is the next DVD/BD release so we should expect a second one on there, ep 1 is already out obviously. I'm fully expecting there to be 7 total eps. Their last two anime (Amagi and Kyoukai) had 7 mini-theater eps along with a full extra episode; Musaigen already has the full extra episode accounted for in the DB albeit not yet aired so it makes sense with the pattern that they're be 7 of the baby eps.
Anyway, the 1st ep isn't subbed yet so it'd go under MISC regardless as of right now.
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