| For me its just fun to guess whom survives or will survive. Its just fun when its unpredictable. Thats why i had a blast reading gantz and Kamisama no Iutoori. |
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| Suspense. Without it, the manga might get boring. Maybe the fights too. They have to occur every once in a while to threaten the characters. And the if guy that controls everything in the game is insane, it gets twice as fun! |
| Same thing time and time again, but I love the themes that come from anything survival: civilization vs savagery, loss of innocence, power and group struggles, etc. Also like seeing which characters completely snap and how much, whether they're the totally unexpected person or not.. |
| The characters, and how they react/are portrayed. If the character is an introverted 14 year old, it would be ridiculous if he just started killing people with ease, efficiency, and not a problem in the world. If the character is somebody enormously skilled at video games, it would make sense that they were a faithful, powerful, badass if they got trapped inside a game. |
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| When it's together with the psychological genre. How their mindset is changed by the things happening around them, if they have the ability to remain calm, etc. Oh, and if the characters use their mind instead of pure strength too. |
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Emmrys said: Same thing time and time again, but I love the themes that come from anything survival: civilization vs savagery, loss of innocence, power and group struggles, etc. Also like seeing which characters completely snap and how much, whether they're the totally unexpected person or not.. |
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FlamingBiscuits said: This.Suspense. Without it, the manga might get boring. Maybe the fights too. They have to occur every once in a while to threaten the characters. And the if guy that controls everything in the game is insane, it gets twice as fun! emanime said: Yes because survival genre guarantees that it is also psycholgical.When it's together with the psychological genre. How their mindset is changed by the things happening around them, if they have the ability to remain calm, etc. Oh, and if the characters use their mind instead of pure strength too. AND you know that there will be character death, probably murdered in a gruesome fashion. Hello necro'd threads. Manga Forum is really inactive lately. |
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| When there's an actual sense of danger to ALL characters. A lot of survival horror title tend to flop because all but choosen main characters die or are so heavily plot armored Mirrai Nikki I'm looking at you. |
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| It should have a mix of genres, like in addition to survival to have some mystery, thriller, psychological aspects. Survival doesn't necessary has to have characters killing each other like in btoom! Or battle royale, it can also be against zombies or monsters or trying to survive on isolated area.... gore/blood also is optional, generally i mostly prefer mystery build in the story to create more suspense. |
| It is always nice to see strategies/mind games in a fight, the ugly side of humans like betrayer in a survival series manga. Not only it is fun to read, the suspense and it shows how much thought the mangaka puts into his work! |
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| Good characters are an important fundamental, many survivals have cliche and uninteresting characters. Also, some have poor buildup, which should be avoided, and also it should not be too predictable. Originality is not an issue so much as execution. |
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NotJizzyHitler said: For me its just fun to guess whom survives or will survive. Its just fun when its unpredictable. Thats why i had a blast reading gantz and Kamisama no Iutoori. Half and half with gantz. If they didn't add the "third rule" it would've been completely insane with no idea who was going to die next, but you realized you missed one of the few older gantz players so it was good. Survival manga is about the characters. If you can't build up the characters throughout the story, there may be some disappointments |
| When characters don't have blatant plot or when it is not filled with conveniences. |
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| It's good when it has a very nice suspense and it gives attention more on characters than the plot. Also when it tries to be realistic like how would you react in this kind of situation, Will you still cling to your ideals? |
| Suspense, drama, hardships. What the characters did/had have done to them to get into that situation. The will of the character to survive and their personality (no wimpy mc's with no will to live/fight). Last but definitively not least would be the chemistry of the characters involved; As in do the characters work well together and want to help each other survive, is each character only in it for themselves and they only work together because they have a common enemy/interest. This is my ideal survival Manga http://myanimelist.net/manga/11434/Jisatsutou |
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| Absolutely NO ecchi. Otherwise I lose patience and drop it. Yes, I'm that type of person >.> |
| I like the development of the main characters and the history background: the more distopian, the better. On the other hand i hate too much ecchi, more even if the plot is not good. I love Eden no Ori, but I can't stand Btoooom!, they're perfect examples. |
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DarkAngelz said: Absolutely NO ecchi. Otherwise I lose patience and drop it. Yes, I'm that type of person >.> A bit of ecchi is fine with me depending on plot. If survival series with rape scene then a little boobies or pantsu shot is acceptable. Realistic feel~ Too much of something ain't good after all. |
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DarkAngelz said: Cage of Eden not for you then.Absolutely NO ecchi. Otherwise I lose patience and drop it. Yes, I'm that type of person >.> |
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(manga) We could need more books like this. That was a really good one. |
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hireshi said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(manga) We could need more books like this. That was a really good one. Yeah one of the best survival manga out there. |
bunny_lover said: DarkAngelz said: Cage of Eden not for you then.Absolutely NO ecchi. Otherwise I lose patience and drop it. Yes, I'm that type of person >.> Benphyre said: DarkAngelz said: Absolutely NO ecchi. Otherwise I lose patience and drop it. Yes, I'm that type of person >.> A bit of ecchi is fine with me depending on plot. If survival series with rape scene then a little boobies or pantsu shot is acceptable. Realistic feel~ Too much of something ain't good after all. LOL I mean, I can handle rape. I read Wolf-Guy and found it really good. I just don't like ecchi in the sense that it's for comedy or fan enjoyment. If it's for plot and seriousness then okay. If it's for comedy bullshit then no thank you. And I don't mean to come off as mean or anything like that, it's just that I don't find it entertaining. If it's there with a purpose other than a boost in sales... then alright. That being said, there's also the extent. From what I've heard, Kill La Kill is supposed to be ecchi yet also meaningful? Females where their clothes as they do as empowerment? Yeah, not really caring. It's just TOO MUCH for me. For manga, i MIGHT be able to handle it... but anime is a hell no. :/ |
| Battle Royale's Manga would really sum this up in a nutshell for me, hell, even chapter 13 of Kamisama no Iutoori could. It's all about the sense of imminent danger, atleast try to make the readers believe there is no plot armor. Kazuo vs Shinji has remained to be the single battle in Survival Manga that had kept me on the edge of my seat all of the way throughout. There were constant twists and turns throughout the battle and nothing was truly decided until the very end. Just to make a quick comparison, reading Btooom never gave me the sense that something could go wrong for the protagonists, you always knew it would work out in the end and they would beat down the baddie. Oh yeah, and the spontaneous deaths of Kamisama no Iutoori were really great aswell, they really came out of nowhere at times. |
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| Survival manga is one of my most favorite sub genres in manga. Heres a list of things that it needs to do right to be good. - Obviously people have to die, and lots of people. If this isn't happening then its not a good survival because at some point the reader is not going to take the fact that the characters lives are in danger seriously. Cage of Eden fell off towards the end because it stopped killing characters. I would say this is the most important factor in a survival manga. If the reader ever stops worrying about the characters lives for a long span of time then the mangaka has failed. - Cynism. And loads of it. Usually a story is idealistic or cynical; with manga almost always being idealistic. However survival mnaga needs to be cynical. The power of friendship will not always save you and trust can get you killed. This is the reason why btoom was such a failure in my eyes as a survival manga. It was too idealistic, the bad characters always got what was coming to them despite being far superior to the good guys; and the good guys could do whatever they felt without lasting consequences. As far as recommendations of survival manga i would say Battle Royale is the cream of the crop, followed by stuff like Cage of Eden and Rabbit Doubt. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: oh man that chapter reminds me of another reason i love survival manga, unpredictability, they manage to catch me so off guard, kamisama and especially its superior sequel have done this to me so many timesBattle Royale's Manga would really sum this up in a nutshell for me, hell, even chapter 13 of Kamisama no Iutoori could. asume5 said: No plot armor. that is also great theres a survival manga im reading right now that i wont say that is very very VERY likley to kill off the main character next chapter, not a main character I mean the main protagonist, the series isnt even done, thats another aspect i absolutely love They may be shallow stories but they are a utter treat to read for me and i rarely feel bothered by things i do find annoying in normal series |
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| In many survival stories it's unpredictable which character will die next, even the protagonist and the heroine are dying sometimes. Some people, me included, like the way they die, different violent scenes are interesting. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: I don't know, there was plenty of plot armor for the main "bad guy" in Battle Royale. The guy gets some of the best weapons by chance, and body armor by luck. He is "almost killed" at least four times but somehow manages to survive every time. And just look how much ammo he burns through in the course of the manga. Ammo is heavy. Really really heavy. Take it from a guy who hunts and who owns 1000+ rounds of various assorted calibers.Battle Royale's Manga would really sum this up in a nutshell for me, hell, even chapter 13 of Kamisama no Iutoori could. It's all about the sense of imminent danger, atleast try to make the readers believe there is no plot armor. How the hell is this guy carrying so much ammo?! A purely sociopathic coldly logical worldview is not enough to account for this guy's sheer uncanny success. Plot armor galore. |
Emmrys said: Same thing time and time again, but I love the themes that come from anything survival: civilization vs savagery, loss of innocence, power and group struggles, etc. Also like seeing which characters completely snap and how much, whether they're the totally unexpected person or not.. Pretty much all of this. Human struggle in the face of life and death and what sacrifices they are willing to make in order to survive. |
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| Anger,pain,lust,jealousy,action,craziness and a touch of echhiness makes a good survival manga.If you want to read good survival manga read battle royale,mirai nikki ( future diary ) or my personal favourite - Gantz |
| They are some of the beat stories which focus on the characters. You get to see how they confront their fears, drastic situations, and other people. The relations between characters in extreme circumstances are interesting and unique. The characters are what make the survival genre what it is. |
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| Good psychological development. I rather think it's stupid when people suddenly snap and go off into a world of their own- sure it might happen, but it's pretty cheap. |
| Fleshed out supporting characters |
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| Whenever the characters undergo a tremendous degree of mental pain; to see them walking on the thin line between sanity and insanity. And of course, to see those characters forget about the "morality" that they are so proud of. I strongly believe that their sufferings are what makes the story suspenseful, exciting and so on. But yeah, that's how I like them stories. lol. |
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