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May 21, 2012 6:33 AM

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Otakufreak26 said:
cuz they they jelly of a little fat boy gettin the popular girl. Throw some peanut butter in their face and they'll stop whining.


Supai said:
Don't have anything against him being fat, just hate him for being so annoyingly whimpy (at least he isn't as bloody whiny as Yukiteru of Mirai Nikki is).


playmakerjizMay 21, 2012 6:51 AM
Meanwhile, in the magical world of anime.

May 21, 2012 6:49 AM

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My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg
May 21, 2012 8:37 AM

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AironicallyHuman said:
My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg

This sounds a bit like jealousy. Sounds like all your points are invalid from now o.o.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 21, 2012 9:41 AM

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Immahnoob said:
AironicallyHuman said:
My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg

This sounds a bit like jealousy. Sounds like all your points are invalid from now o.o.

I don't see how he sounded jealous, what's there to be jealous of anyway? The MC is just a loser inside & out.
May 21, 2012 11:49 AM

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Lumathy said:
Immahnoob said:
AironicallyHuman said:
My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg

This sounds a bit like jealousy. Sounds like all your points are invalid from now o.o.

I don't see how he sounded jealous, what's there to be jealous of anyway? The MC is just a loser inside & out.

The words he used. It sounds like it's actually pissing him off, using adequate words should be an objective too when you speak about your opinion.

"She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight..." to the point.

"The guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies"

"He sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more."

You people should understand that there are people pathetic as this, they need to change, of course. But it sounds like some people are the factor to the problem (especially ones here, talking about real life too). He was made fat to exactly look pathetic, that girl accepted him as he is, duuh, childhood friend, the 1# babe hates herself the same like the "whiny bitch". Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose.

I think you get it now. If you don't re-read for like 20 times.
ImmahnoobMay 21, 2012 11:53 AM




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 21, 2012 2:52 PM
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This is what he would look pretty similar to this in RL:
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May 21, 2012 5:18 PM

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Okay, for those complaining about the eyes, I found an alternate looking Haru in pixiv. ;-)


*edit. For some reason the picture doesn't appear anymore (it did when I previewed it). Here's the link: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=big&illust_id=3894261
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May 21, 2012 7:02 PM

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I just don't like his appearance , but even though he's a wimp for now, he's still kind and is determined to protect the ones important to him, he's personality could still change, as well as his appearance because he's still young..

Btw, for me, Chiyuri is more hotter than Hime.. =P
May 21, 2012 9:27 PM

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i don't mind his appearance.. he's actually a better MC compared most of the others out there.

but i'm not watching this show for self pity... not saying that they overdone it though
May 25, 2012 9:19 AM

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I don't mind him being small and fat, what I do mind is that he is ridiculously small...

You can make somebody fat and small, I don't mind, actually I prefer it. Since it would finally be something different... But making him 1/2 smaller than everyone is just lame.
He just doesn't fit in the overall character design, its like this: "Cross what does not fit: [pineapple, orange, banana, LG 32LD350]

But in the end, it doesn't matter since his avatar is pretty dope, and that's probably what we'll be seeing the most.
May 25, 2012 11:18 AM

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It's not that I care so much that he's fat, but the creators made his character design so extreme. This is not a case with just being fat or not being physically attractive—Arita doesn't even look like he belongs in this series. I'm about to drop this show for a lot of reasons, but I won't lie—one of them is because I can't get over how ridiculous Arita looks when compared to the rest of the cast.

May 25, 2012 3:40 PM

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Well I don't care about how the guys look. And i think all the girls in the anime look swell :) Scarlet rain ftw!
May 25, 2012 3:59 PM

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lucjan said:
It's not that I care so much that he's fat, but the creators made his character design so extreme. This is not a case with just being fat or not being physically attractive—Arita doesn't even look like he belongs in this series. I'm about to drop this show for a lot of reasons, but I won't lie—one of them is because I can't get over how ridiculous Arita looks when compared to the rest of the cast.

There's always the light novel, which actually made me enjoy the whole franchise even more vs the anime alone. There are many character traits and background details that are skipped/don't translate well in the anime.
May 26, 2012 3:39 AM

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lol
for those who said somethin like "i like this character"
you should try open this :

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=big&illust_id=3894261

especially the other submitted works by the creator..


Immahnoob said:
Lumathy said:
Immahnoob said:
AironicallyHuman said:
My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg

This sounds a bit like jealousy. Sounds like all your points are invalid from now o.o.

I don't see how he sounded jealous, what's there to be jealous of anyway? The MC is just a loser inside & out.

The words he used. It sounds like it's actually pissing him off, using adequate words should be an objective too when you speak about your opinion.

"She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight..." to the point.

"The guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies"

"He sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more."

You people should understand that there are people pathetic as this, they need to change, of course. But it sounds like some people are the factor to the problem (especially ones here, talking about real life too). He was made fat to exactly look pathetic, that girl accepted him as he is, duuh, childhood friend, the 1# babe hates herself the same like the "whiny bitch". Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose.

I think you get it now. If you don't re-read for like 20 times.


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..
May 26, 2012 4:58 AM

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kururugikai said:
lol
for those who said somethin like "i like this character"
you should try open this :

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=big&illust_id=3894261

especially the other submitted works by the creator..


Immahnoob said:
Lumathy said:
Immahnoob said:
AironicallyHuman said:
My problem isn't solely that he's a fatty: it's that he's short AND fat. He looks as if he'd make for a decent football. He loses many cool points because of this.

But, more than his moobs, what REALLY hurts his character - and Accel World as a whole - is how ruddy fake the supporting cast act. There's the childhood 'friend' chick, who wants him to "do his he will" with her on her bed... in spite of having a boyfriend. (SHE EVEN SAYS SHE ONLY STARTED DATING THE FIT, SUCCESSFUL, NON-FAILURE BECAUSE OF HER FEELINGS FOR THE FATTY!) She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight, or that he's ugly... or that he's a loser. Truly, she's the otaku ideal; willing to accept a guy, no matter how fat, stupid or generally pathetic he is--even though she already has a guy. And, of course, there's Black Lotus: the school's #1 babe... who fell in love with fatty at first moob, after having rejected numerous guys, and tells everyone that'll listen that the fatty rejected her.

You know, there's nothing wrong with inner beauty being valued more than superficial beauty in fiction. We all need to escape; believing we ALL have a chance with the ladies. But the guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies... yet, because this is anime catered to the fat variety of losers, it's only natural he'd get all the pussy he desires, and so he does.

Also: he sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more.

PS: Just for those arguing that there's nothing wrong with having your skin hang out in an untidy fashion...

http://www.bodyconfidential.co.uk/i/6AT/1APZ_H.jpg

This sounds a bit like jealousy. Sounds like all your points are invalid from now o.o.

I don't see how he sounded jealous, what's there to be jealous of anyway? The MC is just a loser inside & out.

The words he used. It sounds like it's actually pissing him off, using adequate words should be an objective too when you speak about your opinion.

"She cares not that he'd crush her with his weight..." to the point.

"The guy is weak-puss on the inside, with no qualities that SHOULD help him seduce the ladies"

"He sounds like a whiny bitch, always about to burst into tears. This makes me dislike him even more."

You people should understand that there are people pathetic as this, they need to change, of course. But it sounds like some people are the factor to the problem (especially ones here, talking about real life too). He was made fat to exactly look pathetic, that girl accepted him as he is, duuh, childhood friend, the 1# babe hates herself the same like the "whiny bitch". Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose.

I think you get it now. If you don't re-read for like 20 times.


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..

Nah, I just understand people. That's why everybody I want is my friend, and those I don't want to are my "enemies" or at least they know they piss me off.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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guanhian said:
i don't mind his appearance.. he's actually a better MC compared most of the others out there.

but i'm not watching this show for self pity... not saying that they overdone it though


You'd need to specify "Better".

kururugikai said:


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..


He's just dickishly saying that Haru represents the insecurities that we all in some shape and form harbor and the reason "US PEOPLE" hate him is because we can't accept the unacknowledged flaws.

I dunno wtf he's going on about "Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose".

Sounds like he's just covertly admitting that this show was MADE to pander for escapist fat asses. Which wouldn't be far from the truth. That or he's claiming the existence of a universe where its even remotely possible women prefer the company of "Whiny bitches" as opposed to confident types. Insanity FTW , I suppose.
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Krasie said:
guanhian said:
i don't mind his appearance.. he's actually a better MC compared most of the others out there.

but i'm not watching this show for self pity... not saying that they overdone it though


You'd need to specify "Better".

kururugikai said:


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..


He's just dickishly saying that Haru represents the insecurities that we all in some shape and form harbor and the reason "US PEOPLE" hate him is because we can't accept the unacknowledged flaws.

I dunno wtf he's going on about "Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose".

Sounds like he's just covertly admitting that this show was MADE to pander for escapist fat asses. Which wouldn't be far from the truth. That or he's claiming the existence of a universe where its even remotely possible women prefer the company of "Whiny bitches" as opposed to confident types. Insanity FTW , I suppose.

I said there are rare people that prefer such a thing. Rare means you won't find them really often, about 5%. There are people who see threw that, and don't mind "insecure whiny little bitches". That "()" has no sense, now that I read it. I meant they're "little" as in "low in numbers". I'm an idiot. I mean that instincts limit us.

Not everybody wants confidence. I'm an over confident person, and I don't want somebody that is like me, just because I want to feel greater than I actually am I suppose.

Anyways, yes, the last part is true, except for the "existence of bla bla universe" thingy, which I never implied.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
May 26, 2012 10:28 AM
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Immahnoob said:
Krasie said:
guanhian said:
i don't mind his appearance.. he's actually a better MC compared most of the others out there.

but i'm not watching this show for self pity... not saying that they overdone it though


You'd need to specify "Better".

kururugikai said:


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..


He's just dickishly saying that Haru represents the insecurities that we all in some shape and form harbor and the reason "US PEOPLE" hate him is because we can't accept the unacknowledged flaws.

I dunno wtf he's going on about "Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose".

Sounds like he's just covertly admitting that this show was MADE to pander for escapist fat asses. Which wouldn't be far from the truth. That or he's claiming the existence of a universe where its even remotely possible women prefer the company of "Whiny bitches" as opposed to confident types. Insanity FTW , I suppose.

I said there are rare people that prefer such a thing. Rare means you won't find them really often, about 5%. There are people who see threw that, and don't mind "insecure whiny little bitches". That "()" has no sense, now that I read it. I meant they're "little" as in "low in numbers". I'm an idiot. I mean that instincts limit us.

Not everybody wants confidence. I'm an over confident person, and I don't want somebody that is like me, just because I want to feel greater than I actually am I suppose.

Anyways, yes, the last part is true, except for the "existence of bla bla universe" thingy, which I never implied.


Haha. The virtual ego is strong.

So, apparently people are annoyed when the character is fat. That's the least of my concern watching this series. They are more obvious flaws than the character being fat. The character begin fat is not even a flaw to this series.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
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wakka9ca said:
Immahnoob said:
Krasie said:
guanhian said:
i don't mind his appearance.. he's actually a better MC compared most of the others out there.

but i'm not watching this show for self pity... not saying that they overdone it though


You'd need to specify "Better".

kururugikai said:


to me, you seem to feel that he is indirectly mocking you.

I infer that you and the main character have somethin in common,whether it be looks or personality..


He's just dickishly saying that Haru represents the insecurities that we all in some shape and form harbor and the reason "US PEOPLE" hate him is because we can't accept the unacknowledged flaws.

I dunno wtf he's going on about "Some people actually love these type of "whiny bitches", rare (they're little and only ones really attracted), because we're still looking for "attraction", even after having a brain for ourselves. Instincts FTW, I suppose".

Sounds like he's just covertly admitting that this show was MADE to pander for escapist fat asses. Which wouldn't be far from the truth. That or he's claiming the existence of a universe where its even remotely possible women prefer the company of "Whiny bitches" as opposed to confident types. Insanity FTW , I suppose.

I said there are rare people that prefer such a thing. Rare means you won't find them really often, about 5%. There are people who see threw that, and don't mind "insecure whiny little bitches". That "()" has no sense, now that I read it. I meant they're "little" as in "low in numbers". I'm an idiot. I mean that instincts limit us.

Not everybody wants confidence. I'm an over confident person, and I don't want somebody that is like me, just because I want to feel greater than I actually am I suppose.

Anyways, yes, the last part is true, except for the "existence of bla bla universe" thingy, which I never implied.


Haha. The virtual ego is strong.

"Virtual" as unreal?

I don't know if it's possible to be overconfident and egocentric at the same time, as they are both from the same root but not the actual same thing? Add narcissism to this mix, and you'll have me I suppose.

Whenever you speak to me, you'll be 99% of the times, wrong, both real life and the Internet. Complexes are never pointed towards me, it's usually the "bad" in the person near me. I don't choose my "fights" pretty well, because I know I'll win all of them, that's why I like forums, easiest places to find debates.. <- This is my thinking.

^ And yes, I like talking about myself quite a lot, what I do, how awesome I am and I know who I am, how I am, but I don't want to change anything, which sucks, because my personality is one of the worst possible, being self-aware but not bothering changing the parts that can be changed and must be changed, only because you love thyself and because of laziness and boredom.

It sounds quite self-contradictory, but I can't express it in words too well. I just hope you get it.




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Immahnoob said:

It sounds quite self-contradictory, but I can't express it in words too well. I just hope you get it.

It seems to me you were very clear and easy to understand. There is nothing self-contradictory in what you just said. Don't start worrying about the people who don't understand. They will probably not bother to comment here.

Also, by the way, virtual doesn't mean unreal. It is not the opposite of "real life" or whatever that means. It just means we are on the Internet. The Internet is real, not unreal. Like you said this is a forums and you are using a persona. No one knows (or really care) about who you are in real life. This is not Facebook. In other words, no one cares about what you think in real life, but they care about what you think as a MAL user.

+ 1 to myself for derailing the topic.
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but they care about what you think as a MAL user.



I'll admit it I laughed.
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Krasie said:
wakka9ca said:

but they care about what you think as a MAL user.



I'll admit it I laughed.


Well at least someone here gets it. :D
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I kinda can't believe that after 14 pages this wasn't brought up, but for the sake of getting back on track...

There seems to be a terrible double-standard here. Male characters are allowed to be unattractive and still get the girl that they want, because girls are nice and can see past physical flaws. The girl that he gets, however, is always the hottest chick on the planet.

So ugly guys are allowed to be attracted to hot girls, but what about unattractive women? There isn't a single one of them in this show. There aren't a whole lot of them in anime in general, because guys don't want an unattractive woman. People keep mentioning "it's what's on the inside that counts," but it seems very one sided here.

I actually rather enjoy the show, but the whole "ugly guy gets all the hot chicks" thing is really overdone.
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I kinda can't believe that after 14 pages this wasn't brought up, but for the sake of getting back on track...

There seems to be a terrible double-standard here. Male characters are allowed to be unattractive and still get the girl that they want, because girls are nice and can see past physical flaws. The girl that he gets, however, is always the hottest chick on the planet.

So ugly guys are allowed to be attracted to hot girls, but what about unattractive women? There isn't a single one of them in this show. There aren't a whole lot of them in anime in general, because guys don't want an unattractive woman. People keep mentioning "it's what's on the inside that counts," but it seems very one sided here.

I actually rather enjoy the show, but the whole "ugly guy gets all the hot chicks" thing is really overdone.

As you said, anime chicks are never ugly in anime, only if they're "antagonists" and usually even then they look great.

So him getting all the chicks fits the story (besides Kuroyukihime, which pretty much sounds like child's love) (he gets only 2 anyways) too if you think about it. One of them is his childhood friend (IMO she still looks at him like a friend) and the others story still bothers me, it can't just be child's love like that... It's a 13+ anime, so it could be, but for me IT CANNOT BE! It's just too pathetic that way.




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He just looks too goddamn weird, apart from being fat. How can he be so short?
Jun 2, 2012 12:37 PM

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Because Hime is too beautiful and Moe. Taku would be better as the MC lol. Hime x Haruyuki is just a no for me.. Oh well, Not that bad, It's unique anyways.
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omg, Ikr? In every freakin' comment I see, people are complaining about him being fat.
Oh seriously! It was about time anime wouldn't discriminate and has someone like him as a main character.
Jun 2, 2012 1:13 PM
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mal2012 said:
He just looks too goddamn weird, apart from being fat. How can he be so short?


So you are discriminating against short people too? lol.
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Paul said:
No issue with him being fat here. My issue is how short he is (like 1/2 of everyone's size) and his character design. At least they could have made him LOOK similar to the other characters in the series.

Well, I guess at least we can obviously differentiate between the actual main male character and the rest of the cast.

Strangely, this might just be me, but it seems people tend to be simply hating on any characters Kaji Yuki has been VA'ing since Shu.


It is the same in my case as well. The character design for him is awful, in my opinion.
Jun 2, 2012 9:58 PM

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Everyone,just stop fighting already!!Half people like how he is a original character while other half don't like it when it comes to his "unreal" fattiness,how he differs in his character design from other characters.You can't just change others opinions with fighting & saying this is better & this is not..
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wakka9ca said:
mal2012 said:
He just looks too goddamn weird, apart from being fat. How can he be so short?


So you are discriminating against short people too? lol.


Umm, no, I am not. I have no problems with short or fat people. He just does not fit in with the overall character design. I think that's the point that people are trying to make here.
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mal2012 said:
wakka9ca said:
mal2012 said:
He just looks too goddamn weird, apart from being fat. How can he be so short?


So you are discriminating against short people too? lol.


Umm, no, I am not. I have no problems with short or fat people. He just does not fit in with the overall character design. I think that's the point that people are trying to make here.

And then you find out that people don't understand the simplest of things.

It's to make him look pathetic and miserable. If you see a fat, sad and short guy in real life what do you think? "Haha, pathetic". Am I right?

That's it. They wanted the protagonist to be more pathetic than any other characters in any other anime (AKA Shu from Guilty Crown is PATHETIC until after like 14 episodes, and other examples like Highschool DxD (the protagonist) etc). He's just a cliched character with some NEW additions to add to how pathetic he is.

Actually, from all examples you can get he's one of the most realistic. Most fat people are discriminated and bullied in real life, and like all people, give them a chance and they'll get better or they'll change. Most anime are extreme, think of Harems. Most of them are made for people to escape reality.

Think out of your little boxes, then you'll find the answers to many things.




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Well, people always want to force their own view and opinion on series. It's a natural tendency for anyone with an ego. That is why many have the mindset that this fat and short character has no place in this anime because their vision of the anime does not permit such oddity.

Oh well. What can one do?
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wakka9ca said:
Well, people always want to force their own view and opinion on series. It's a natural tendency for anyone with an ego. That is why many have the mindset that this fat and short character has no place in this anime because their vision of the anime does not permit such oddity.

Oh well. What can one do?

Hmmm, I don't understand how this works. So, anybody with an ego would force their point of view in it? But those who don't have such a big ego won't?

Well, I think that most things that happen have a deeper meaning. Literature or movies for example SURELY have a deeper meaning. There still are those thin paper story lines, they exist everywhere, but even those have something "hidden" out of plain sight.

Even character development, why lyrics in a song are like that, etc.




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theres always 1 fat person on school. deal with it
Jun 18, 2012 12:34 PM

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Lol I just don't like how he is 2x shorter than Kuroyukihime. Apart from that I'm actually fine with him :P
Jun 18, 2012 12:53 PM

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It's an effective visual metaphor, as is the Silver Crow model and pig avatar.

And hey, nothing wrong with pervyness. : /
Jun 20, 2012 8:51 AM

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he just doesn't fit with the rest of the characters at all. he's not just fat, he's very odd looking. rotund, bowling ball esque. I mean the size and proportions just don't work.

the main problem is we have 2-3 quite girls fawning over porky here. it doesn't make any sense realistically.
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I thought this thread was dead already. I made a thread for Scarlet Rain, and nobody's there. All people want to talk is Haru??
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pika2000 said:
I thought this thread was dead already. I made a thread for Scarlet Rain, and nobody's there. All people want to talk is Haru??

Scarlet Rain won't be jelly of Haru anyways, so we can ignore her.




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Lol surprised the debate still going on, still this thread is priceless....the posts here really do me laugh xD
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Immahnoob said:

Scarlet Rain won't be jelly of Haru anyways, so we can ignore her.

Well, it makes me think the people are actually liking Haru despite what they are saying here. I mean why would one keep hanging around the forum of the show and keep talking about the character they supposedly "dislike"? ;-)
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pika2000 said:
Immahnoob said:

Scarlet Rain won't be jelly of Haru anyways, so we can ignore her.

Well, it makes me think the people are actually liking Haru despite what they are saying here. I mean why would one keep hanging around the forum of the show and keep talking about the character they supposedly "dislike"? ;-)

So we dislike him too, I suppose?




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the main problem is we have 2-3 quite girls fawning over porky here. it doesn't make any sense realistically.


That's your typical harem setting. I don't see what's the problem here since I don't a complaint thread in the harem series. At least porky is visually different from your typical male harem lead. We should rejoice.

In Shaman King we all know of a character that doesn't fit with the overall design.
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wakka9ca said:
mystik said:

the main problem is we have 2-3 quite girls fawning over porky here. it doesn't make any sense realistically.


That's your typical harem setting. I don't see what's the problem here since I don't a complaint thread in the harem series. At least porky is visually different from your typical male harem lead. We should rejoice.

In Shaman King we all know of a character that doesn't fit with the overall design.

Another thing is that we're talking about Anime here, realism? Dafuq is that? Porky actually has a better personality than most male leads from other Harem anime lol.




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Immahnoob said:
Scarlet Rain won't be jelly of Haru anyways, so we can ignore her.

Yeah, the past two episodes seem to have a different opinion. Niko ha fallen for Haru so hard.But I don't what your problem is. Haru is WORTH IT. He looks like a fat pig, but he's kind, determined and extremely loyal.
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Immahnoob said:
Scarlet Rain won't be jelly of Haru anyways, so we can ignore her.

Yeah, the past two episodes seem to have a different opinion. Niko ha fallen for Haru so hard.But I don't what your problem is. Haru is WORTH IT. He looks like a fat pig, but he's kind, determined and extremely loyal.

What I said, and what you said, are two different things. She won't ever be jealous of how much attention Haru gets, so what I said still stands.




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How did this thread ended up talking about harems...
And no Haru doesn't have a harem.
-Chiyu's "care" is as close as a childhood friend, nothing more nothing less. She's still dating with Taku.
-Niko falls in love with Haru? LOL. It's obvious that all of her actions towards Haru is purely for her own entertainment.

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Wherever this thread might be heading, I'll stay on topic: I have a problem with it because, I am mean, when a cool-looking character does something stupid, I'll be like: Baka, but when this guy does something remotely cool I'll be like: Shut up Fat pig. It is about his looks and because of human nature. I would explain this further, but that would mean explaining human behaviour and the psychology of humans.
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kaimax said:
How did this thread ended up talking about harems...
And no Haru doesn't have a harem.
-Chiyu's "care" is as close as a childhood friend, nothing more nothing less. She's still dating with Taku.
-Niko falls in love with Haru? LOL. It's obvious that all of her actions towards Haru is purely for her own entertainment.
Like reducing 99% of her points and being put in the hospital? *skeptical face*
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