| Do they think they can stop me by doing this? nothing can stop me! and Chinese again? smh |
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gezodiac said: looking on amazon (the best place to get anime i would think.... legally not bootleg) in canada.... 75$ for a single 13 ep season of a recent anime on bluray. YEAH OKAY. I'd rather pay $75 for 13 episodes than 2-3 like Japan. Also most series released in the US from my personal experiences browsing the Amazon market place are usually $50~$60 and its probably even cheaper on Rightstuf. @topic: They could use that money to put more of a variety of stuff on Daisuki thats what they made it for to give fansubs and CR some competition and yet they offer the same mainstream crap that is on every website legally save for ZZ Gundam. xD Only thing I like about it is the video player at least it won't buffer a lot compared to CRs when congestion hits. |
RolokoJul 29, 2014 8:09 PM
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
DarkMorpher said: If America couldn't do it, what makes Japan think they can? This. |
SchwarzeFlammen said: Piracy will never truly be taken care of, I hate to say it. I honestly think business models and localization need to change if they really want to make a profit. Like they say, you need to spend money to make money. They need to take risk and actually produce different types of Anime if they want to make profit. At this rate, I won't even know many of he garbage Anime that are currently on my list thanks to the internet making them we'll known. And I sure as he'll won't buy 80$ For 2-3 episodes, like many others who just watch shows like me. And I sure as he'll won't pay for it after the import fees... Like I said, it is an availability and pricing problem. Why the hell do Japs get to buy $5 a volume manga but it's twice the price over in the US? |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| I've lost track of how many times the Japanese government has tried this and failed. I have no reason to believe this will be any different. |
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Rueby said: DarkMorpher said: If America couldn't do it, what makes Japan think they can? This. BECAUSE JAPAN IS THE GREATSU COUNTRY EVARU! And also, this is a way the publishers blame their mediocrity of shows not turning profit on something else entirely... NebulaC3I said: So this is how the age of viewing anime illegally dies... with contemptuous laughter. It's not gonna do a thing. After their miserable failure in China this whole thing will subside into darkness. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Nah Piratebay still exist :D GL with that... |
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| They couldn't even do it in 1937, what makes Japanese think they stand any chance now? Needs more shooped posters. |
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BurntJelly said: tsubasalover said: Oh... so they are going to give me a legal place to get anime with beautiful fully-karaoke'd english subs... Symphogear? no? awe :( => failthe operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site I buy BDs/DVDs for the anime I like (as long as the price is reasonable, sorry I will not pay $250 for Sora Kake Girl no matter how much I like the anime, gimme a box-set for $70). Even then, BD/DVD subtitle quality is, well, ugly. If they want to stop lessen piracy, they need to offer a product comparable in quality to fansubs. Hell yes, if they offered something of better quality then sure, we will pay for it, but they don't offer anything better than the passion and quality of fansubs. |
| Wow some people are so delusional that it's not even funny. I hope the Japanese government comes down hard on piracy and once the WWW is regulated up to people's necks, it'd be one hell of a sight to see people crying about how they can no longer P2P. Finally, content creators will get paid for their work. And how is 'the Internet being the greatest marketing device' an excuse to pirate content? That's what a marketing budget is for; and I can assure you it's a lot less than how much they lose from piracy. ... Unfortunately, this will be many years off before the government can ever pull off such feat because pirates are still voters and no politicians would want to face the backlash of taking away people's free stuff. |
KurogashiJul 29, 2014 9:25 PM
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Heathcliff90 said: Many people are stupid to pretend to be Japanese [...] there are too many trying to pretend to be someone they are not What is this supposed to mean? Are you implying that nobody outside of Japan is allowed to enjoy anime? Or am I misunderstanding what you were trying to say? |
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Heathcliff90 said: I know this was going to happen.....Many people are stupid to pretend to be Japanese....im legally Japanese myself and i personally approve of this .... there are too many trying to pretend to be someone they are not...i worked with the government and this is the first time they are angered by this.... people abusing anime and manga .... Have you seen the site that they are so called going to stop piracy with? It looks dreadful and the PV for it was dreadful, it has no variety, and the Japanese government should be ashamed of even trying, and the studios are confirmed to be nothing but corporate tyrants, biting the hand that feeds them (didn't their mothers teach them not to bite the hand that feeds them or a similar proverb). If it wasn't for piracy, the industry would've died in the mid 2000's. Stop supporting these tyrannical entities, the government there isn't out to protect anime as they say, they've nearly destroyed the industry 3 times with their so called "laws". As for the studios, as much as I like them to protect their products, they are doing it in a way that constitutes severe corporate tyranny and needs to go back to the drawing board. For anyone who resides in Japan that comes into this topic, consider writing politely to the anime studios and the Japanese government for these following changes: 1. Cut the price of BDs/DVDs, the stuff is too expensive for what it's worth, very few anime are worth $350-400 much less $700-$3000+. I'm saying this from experience. 2. Launch a true region free download service for both televised anime and BD/DVDs. I'm sorry but those prices need to go way down so more people can support the industry and if a price cut on physical discs won't do, this is a surefire way. Whoever makes the service can consider finding US or South Korean technicians, programmers, web designers and such to make this service decent if not perfect or near perfect. It needs to have variety unlike the site the government put up, get everyone imaginable on board, lower licensing fees, the works. This service can be used for manga and light novels as well. Also the DRM must not be detrimental or intrusive, think Steam. This service must work on mobile devices (I read downloaded LNs and manga on a tablet). It also must be affordable, something like $10-$30 US a year tops. 3. If possible, bring more merchandise outside of Japan at least the figures. |
HoppyJul 29, 2014 9:36 PM
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Frost_Kiss said: So what the f*** will happen now?? They are going to delete most of the anime website?? Yeah! they're going to take down mal and anything else they can... it's gonna suck man Hoppy said: If it wasn't for piracy, the industry would've died in the mid 2000's.  |
DerpHoleJul 29, 2014 9:40 PM
| [size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS |
| I'm not understanding people saying that the illegal manga sites are promoting the manga...promoting doesn't mean that its making money for the team that originally works on it. But its also their fault, if they don't license it in English, then its their fault for losing money, people clearly want to read it but they aren't licensing it. |
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| I recall a week or 3 after megaupload died a couple of stream sites died and I had to find new sources. Months pass and new stream sites appeared. Hopefully that is how this goes down, |
Shit guys we've really pissed off Japan, I'm scared.  |
| I'm not paying $65 for every anime series I watch. If you don't make your anime available on the legal streaming sites I will pirate it. |
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| The other side of this war is people who buy their Anime vs people who download. If you ask me, I don't care about either. |
| This is very unfair. It's not like japanese people are expected to buy the DVD's and BR's from every show they want to watch. They first see it as it airs for free on their TV. They only ever spend money on a show after they already watched it and decided it was worth it. So why are western fans expected to pay good money on dvd's (sometimes importing it from overseas) just to watch a show for the first time? I keep hoping that the Jap Government and those producers will wise up and offer a reasonable way to watch anime for a reasonable cost. Something like a streaming site with a monthly subscription (not much more expensive than Netflix) so that western fans can watch shows without having to pay 60+ bucks for a few episodes. |
| Hopefully it won't affect my 20+ anime/manga sites that I may or may not use. |
| The guilty are audacious. |
| yeah good luck with that |
| I wouldn't have bothered if it was Anti-gaming piracy or Anti-Movie piracy operation by the whole world since everything is available in India but anime. |
 Sometimes you must hurt in order to know, fall in order to grow, lose in order to gain because life's greatest lessons are learned through pain. - Pain |
| as long Internet exist, Piracy will not DIE ! ! LOL |
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| Some news about what the government is trying to do: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/07/29/details-of-japanese-governments-manga-anime-guardians-project They have this new project called "Manga-Anime Guardians Project". |
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| Japan I WANT to watch anime legally but: 1- 99.9 of anime shows isn't legally available. 2- the nearest place to buy manga in my country is 1000 kim far from me !! and there is also no way to read it translated to my language legally so I have no other option rathar than read it online translated to my language illegally. _______ I hope that idea has reached. |
JD2411 said: so japan just made this site to "stop" piracy - http://manga-anime-here.com/ it only has mainstream manga and you have to go to another site to buy it. most of these sites don't work outside of the US. gj japan As far as I tried, non of these sites is working in europe. So they blocked all legal sites first? xD Buying a BD-Box of Noir (26 eps / 4 discs) for 328 US-$ + Shipping + Taxes? Without subtitles but with a region lock that makes it illegal to use it with european bluray-players? Sounds legit. |
LastChapter said: Anyone know if Japan will crack down on torrenters in their country? A friend of mine living in Japan uses Nyaa and is worried the new law will affect him either through fines or jail time. He should obviously lay low for awhile till we see what happens |
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Stark700 said: Some news about what the government is trying to do: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/07/29/details-of-japanese-governments-manga-anime-guardians-project They have this new project called "Manga-Anime Guardians Project". lol the youtube comments are priceless |
Heathcliff90 said: Japanese agenda came to MAL, so much xenophobia flew out.I know this was going to happen.....Many people are stupid to pretend to be Japanese....im legally Japanese myself and i personally approve of this .... there are too many trying to pretend to be someone they are not...i worked with the government and this is the first time they are angered by this.... people abusing anime and manga .... |
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| They're onto us. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
Kurogashi said: Wow some people are so delusional that it's not even funny. I hope the Japanese government comes down hard on piracy and once the WWW is regulated up to people's necks, it'd be one hell of a sight to see people crying about how they can no longer P2P. Finally, content creators will get paid for their work. Talk about being delusional. Content creators will be paid the same, piracy or no piracy. The only ones benefiting from this are the publishers, the people the content creators have sold their souls to and they have already so much money, it's ridiculous. The issue isn't about whether or not people get paid for their product, it's about them not being able to control what we see, where we see it, how we see it, etc. Because of p2p, we became the ones in control, and they don't like that, claiming it costs the content providers money, which is a complete and utter lie over the backs of said content creators. And the actual creators don't fight back, because they're caught between speaking up and lose their contract or stay quiet and get what they get. All the publishers lose is the money from marketing, which is less than the money they're pumping in this anti-piracy campaign, and that can be easily dealt with if they use the internet to their advantage. And how is 'the Internet being the greatest marketing device' an excuse to pirate content? That's what a marketing budget is for; and I can assure you it's a lot less than how much they lose from piracy. How can you NOT understand this? When you have millions of people around the world who can freely access something they've never seen or heard before, how is this NOT the best form of free advertisement you can get? [url-=http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital-piracy-not-harming-entertainment-industries-study-1.1894729]Studies[/url] show that piracy is a very effective tool to help boost sales (in this case music, but it works for movies and anime as well, as the underlying principle is exactly the same). After all, if people what they see, they're more inclined to buy. Without this free and unlimited access to free anime and manga, I wouldn't even be here. The sole reason I became an anime/manga fan is because of piracy. if they want to fight piracy, they have to offer each and every anime ever made with (at least) English subtitles, no DRM, region lock or any other restriction, in high quality for stream and download. And they can charge a small fee for it if they feel the need to, we're not that stingy. However, because I'm sure they're not going to do that (because that takes effort and money), piracy will always exist. Unfortunately, this will be many years off before the government can ever pull off such feat because pirates are still voters and no politicians would want to face the backlash of taking away people's free stuff. They can't pull it off because they think everyone will just do whatever they say without protest. Wanna bet that only a handful of those sites will do so and that the rest will just chug along like nothing ever happened? Sure, they can have those sites blocked, but the sites are merely a front. The people behind those sites will still go on their merry little way. And it's not like these sites cannot just pop up elsewhere and continue their operations. If you want to stop piracy, offer a better product than them, get rid of the pointless restrictions and give the people exactly what they want. Right now, they're not doing that, so piracy is there to fulfill the market the industry itself is ignoring. |
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| Will this affect any way Bakabt?? |
| This whole campain is a bad joke and nothing will change about piracy as long as anime distribution in the west stays as terrible as it is. |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
jfblade said: Will this affect any way Bakabt?? i will be surprise if BakaBT is taken down by this considering that BakaBT do not host USA licensed stuff NyaaTorrents on the other hand may not escape this although they can just host magnet links like ThePirateBay is doing and then they will be fine |
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