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Aug 4, 2015 12:09 PM
#1
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." |
Aug 4, 2015 12:12 PM
#2
Overreact much Germany? You could give him a warning or something.... seriously how many of us have never done the salute? |
Aug 4, 2015 12:13 PM
#3
No surprise considering how much they disregard any symbol of Nazism in Germany. |
Aug 4, 2015 12:15 PM
#4
The real crime is the haircut of the gentleman on the left. |
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
Aug 4, 2015 12:19 PM
#5
Banter. |
Aug 4, 2015 12:31 PM
#6
gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations? I know it's Germany, but it's a bit harsh, it's just disturbing the peace and you only get a night in jail for that maybe with a fine at worst or just the fine itself in most cases. I also see booze, there's a good chance he was drunk and that picture is all that's needed for a drunk defense. |
Aug 4, 2015 12:35 PM
#7
I used to live in Germany, and you could very well get fined or do time in jail. They don't fuck around |
Aug 4, 2015 12:59 PM
#8
He pretty clearly was doing it to call them Nazis. If I were him I would just say I was stretching my arms. |
Aug 4, 2015 1:09 PM
#9
Aug 4, 2015 1:09 PM
#10
Good goy! Now he schall be schpending 3 years paying unlimited shekel works to muh JDL! |
Aug 4, 2015 1:13 PM
#11
OkayCaim said: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." Hproacy at its worst form Caim the us is more tolanet my ass |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 1:16 PM
#12
FGAU1912 said: OkayCaim said: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." Hproacy at its worst form Caim the us is more tolanet my ass Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. |
Aug 4, 2015 1:19 PM
#13
TheBasedNico said: FGAU1912 said: OkayCaim said: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." Hproacy at its worst form Caim the us is more tolanet my ass Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. look at the proportion of crime stat and who get called a terroist more racism is less an issue in the eu over all compare ot the us |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 1:25 PM
#14
Quick hes doing a Nazi salute, stop him before zombie Hitler rises from the grave to form the new Nazi party. Seriously Germany, its overkill. Shut down Neo Nazi gatherings maybe but censoring some dude making a joke with jail time? the romans did bad shit too but the Italians don't jail you for dressing up like a centurion. |
Aug 4, 2015 1:46 PM
#15
Working_Designs said: Deserada said: The real crime is the haircut of the gentleman on the left. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Aug 4, 2015 2:20 PM
#16
TheBasedNico said: What? Most minorities in Europe come from former colonies so the immigrants share cultural values etc and integrate faster.Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. I mean, at least we didn't have a race of people rioting across the entire country recently |
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Aug 4, 2015 2:22 PM
#17
FGAU1912 said: TheBasedNico said: FGAU1912 said: OkayCaim said: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." Hproacy at its worst form Caim the us is more tolanet my ass Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. look at the proportion of crime stat and who get called a terroist more racism is less an issue in the eu over all compare ot the us Most people who have committed treason in the name of ISIS in the US weren't Middle Eastern or came from there. Racism is even more of an issue in the EU (and it's more complex, you're talking about lack of oversight all over the place and focus on just the immigrants over natives vs a few bad apples in the police force) due to immigrants not integrating into European society (and giving people no go zones is racism). |
Aug 4, 2015 2:24 PM
#18
JD2411 said: TheBasedNico said: What? Most minorities in Europe come from former colonies so the immigrants share cultural values etc and integrate faster.Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. GTFO with that shit you know full well thats bull you live in the UK. |
Aug 4, 2015 2:26 PM
#19
And_Ryan said: Most minorities do originally come from the commonwealth eg. Pakistan, India, Hong Kong , Caribbean etcJD2411 said: TheBasedNico said: Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. GTFO with that shit you know full well thats bull you live in the UK. They share cultural values such as language thanks to colonialism so they integrate faster. I don't know why you think it's false |
Aug 4, 2015 2:29 PM
#20
I did it once before in germany by a cop, and when he started walking towards me I put out my other hand like I was stretching and yawned. He then walked away before asking any questions. c; |
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Aug 4, 2015 2:38 PM
#21
you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? |
Aug 4, 2015 3:57 PM
#23
mustardBomb001 said: da fuck is that.... fantastic four as nazi's?Klad said: What if I wander around Germany with this symbol [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcM6tycCUAAnxu3.jpg[/ img] You will make a lot of "friends" in the jail. |
Aug 4, 2015 4:53 PM
#24
razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" |
Aug 4, 2015 5:01 PM
#25
Killaclown said: mustardBomb001 said: da fuck is that.... fantastic four as nazi's?Klad said: What if I wander around Germany with this symbol [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcM6tycCUAAnxu3.jpg[/ img] You will make a lot of "friends" in the jail. After doing a reverse image search, it's apparently the logo for an American hip hop collective called "Pro Era." |
Aug 4, 2015 5:01 PM
#26
Hoppy said: FGAU1912 said: TheBasedNico said: FGAU1912 said: OkayCaim said: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/adolf-hitler/hier-baendigt-ein-polizist-einen-hitlergruss-affen-42030530.bild.html Andreas M. (57), from Freital, Germany, raises his arm to a nazi salute in provocation toward a group of demonstrators for human and refugees rights, who were marching nearby. He gets then calmly approached from behind by a police officer, who gently lower his arms and informs him that he's under arrest for "use of gestures attributable to unconstitutional organizations". If charged, he faces 3 years in jail. The dude most likely did this as a joke, sheesh. This is why America is better. "Muh tolerance." Hproacy at its worst form Caim the us is more tolanet my ass Fun Fact: Multiculturalism is a tool to creating more intolerance, especially in Europe due to lack of integration into European society. In America, everyone integrates into American culture, so Caim is spot on right here. look at the proportion of crime stat and who get called a terroist more racism is less an issue in the eu over all compare ot the us Most people who have committed treason in the name of ISIS in the US weren't Middle Eastern or came from there. Racism is even more of an issue in the EU (and it's more complex, you're talking about lack of oversight all over the place and focus on just the immigrants over natives vs a few bad apples in the police force) due to immigrants not integrating into European society (and giving people no go zones is racism). thats more in farnce were they hate ex colonials like Algerians when was the last race legit race riot in paris berlin london compaed to the us id say the riots in fergson were race riots akn to la in the 90's and watts in the 70's its been close ot 30 years since the last race riot in the uk that was Tottham or croxteath race Riots that is if yiu talking reigion based ritis there is one almost every year in Ulster then the 12th f july prade get block cuase of oversensitive people but thats always goign to be till the teagus leave Ulster |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 5:04 PM
#27
RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 5:08 PM
#28
danielpham said: No surprise considering how much they disregard any symbol of Nazism in Germany. |
Aug 4, 2015 5:25 PM
#29
Better be careful when you raise your arm to greet your friend or something. Thankfully this bs does not exist here (yet). |
Aug 4, 2015 5:27 PM
#30
Comic_Sans said: Working_Designs said: Deserada said: The real crime is the haircut of the gentleman on the left. |
Aug 4, 2015 5:42 PM
#31
FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. |
Aug 4, 2015 5:43 PM
#32
RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. HUH? explain |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 5:48 PM
#33
FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. HUH? explain Here Most Serb of Sebs shall do so |
Aug 4, 2015 5:52 PM
#34
RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. HUH? explain Here Most Serb of Sebs shall do so he was anti nationalist his quote " Nationalism is the Death of Socialism " |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 5:55 PM
#35
FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. HUH? explain Here Most Serb of Sebs shall do so he was anti nationalist his quote " Nationalism is the Death of Socialism " Indeed saddly everything went to hell when he died, it was like...TITO IS DEAD? FUCK YES! KILL MURDER MAIM! |
Aug 4, 2015 6:00 PM
#36
RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" Tito was a Croat correct me if im wrong you shoul be proud of the fatc of he best fighters agist the nazi's came form your land Tito was a filthy traitor who halted removal of Kebab. HUH? explain Here Most Serb of Sebs shall do so he was anti nationalist his quote " Nationalism is the Death of Socialism " Indeed saddly everything went to hell when he died, it was like...TITO IS DEAD? FUCK YES! KILL MURDER MAIM! so why you hate him he held the federal state together fyi im anti nationalist comrade tito was fantastic unify of the people and also a hero of mine as a socialist |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 6:12 PM
#37
FGAU1912 said: so why you hate him he held the federal state together fyi im anti nationalist comrade tito was fantastic unify of the people and also a hero of mine as a socialist Lol hate him? I'm not even Serbian, huehuehue. |
Aug 4, 2015 6:15 PM
#38
RedArmyShogun said: FGAU1912 said: so why you hate him he held the federal state together fyi im anti nationalist comrade tito was fantastic unify of the people and also a hero of mine as a socialist Lol hate him? I'm not even Serbian, huehuehue. serbs lobe tito even thou he would have the nationalism people like Kaznadic asposued |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 6:25 PM
#39
think i laughed a bit too much at this picture than i should have |
Aug 4, 2015 6:26 PM
#40
Zeally said: That man is obviously armed and an extremist of the highest degree.[img]http://i.imgur.com/HEYjqmrl.jpg[img] think i laughed a bit too much at this picture than i should have |
Aug 4, 2015 6:40 PM
#41
Aug 4, 2015 6:48 PM
#42
Astros said: Zeally said: That man is obviously armed and an extremist of the highest degree.[img]http://i.imgur.com/HEYjqmrl.jpg[img] think i laughed a bit too much at this picture than i should have First image: "hey guys watch this, it'll be a larf haha nazi sau- Second image: "Hello sir im Chriz Hansel from the show 'to catch a nazi' can you come with me please." |
Aug 4, 2015 7:09 PM
#43
I can remember when a man in Quebec was jailed in Germany for this salute outside of the Reichstag. He was only jailed for a day though then given a fine. 3 years may be the 'maximum' punishment, but it's not as if that's what he actually got and nor is he likely to receive such. I do disagree with this law but, I don't feel sorry for him. As a German citizen he would be well aware it's illegal and he's not making some protest for freedom of speech, but instead is merely trying to be an asshole, towards people protesting. This is something that depending on the rally, can actually get you arrested in the US as well. For example, bringing a hangman's noose to a civil rights rally can and has gotten people arrested. |
Aug 4, 2015 7:25 PM
#44
razor39999 said: RedArmyShogun said: Yeah, but it's better now than it was during the 90's. That decade was complete bullshit, as you say, "lol rewrite history".razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" I remember the "history" book from my grade school had about 20 pages or less about WW2 in ex-Yugoslavia, with the majority of those pages dedicated to denigrating the partisan movement and Tito, and talking about postwar communist crimes. The government and conduct of the Ustase movement was covered in about a page or two, with some ridiculously low number cited as victims killed in concentration camps, and the rest of those two pages talking about how the movement enhanced the cultural scene of Zagreb, or some shit like that. It was pathetic. I was lucky to be raised by former partisan grandparents, who knew a bit more of what was actually going on, and also lucky to be living in the least nationalistic part of Croatia (around Rijeka). I shudder to think what sort of person I would've been if I grew up further south, around Zadar or Dubrovnik in a family with different values. fuck thr right wingers i salute your hero grandpertans |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 7:48 PM
#45
When you try to erase history you are doomed to repeat it. Germany should embrace and understand its past rather than trying to completely ignore it like say...Japan. |
Aug 4, 2015 7:51 PM
#46
And_Ryan said: When you try to erase history you are doomed to repeat it. Germany should embrace and understand its past rather than trying to completely ignore it like say...Japan. right hence the big protest at the change of aticle 9 |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 7:58 PM
#47
SolitaryComplex said: I used to live in Germany, and you could very well get fined or do time in jail. They don't fuck around This. When I went to visit family, I learned its a very different place then what i'm used to. |
the40ftbadger said: i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4. It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!" |
Aug 4, 2015 8:00 PM
#48
razor39999 said: FGAU1912 said: Thanks, but I doubt they would call themselves "heroes". They were normal people in a time when such were harder to find.fuck thr right wingers i salute your hero grandpertans The problem in this country since the falling apart of Yugoslavia has been similar to Japan's apologetic view of their WW2 government, and very different from the stance in modern day Germany. That's why this sort of law mentioned in the OP, even tho harsh, is very useful as an official way of condemning far right fundamentalism properly and wholly, something I only wish was enacted here. Also, let's face it, actual max sentences are only carried out on people that are repeat offenders and probably certified members of the neo-Nazi movement. have you seen the protest in japan about the change to aricale 9 and im with them on that |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 8:02 PM
#49
razor39999 said: And_Ryan said: Germany very much understands and studies its history. It does not embrace it, which is a very good thing, something Japan, Korea and China should learn from.When you try to erase history you are doomed to repeat it. Germany should embrace and understand its past rather than trying to completely ignore it like say...Japan. there is a growing left in japan of witch im a member |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 4, 2015 8:18 PM
#50
FGAU1912 said: razor39999 said: RedArmyShogun said: razor39999 said: Gohadoken said: Germany prefers condemning its historic failures, instead of tolerating them. It's praiseworthy. Unfortunately I can't say the same for my own country (Croatia), there has been too much of a laid back attitude towards our own brand of WW2 fascists lately.you're all crazy, no way you get arrested for this in the US, and even if you did there would be no charges, none of you have ever seen the racist rallies? I would say more in the case of them and Eastern Europe, it goes well past being laid back so much as "lol rewrite history" I remember the "history" book from my grade school had about 20 pages or less about WW2 in ex-Yugoslavia, with the majority of those pages dedicated to denigrating the partisan movement and Tito, and talking about postwar communist crimes. The government and conduct of the Ustase movement was covered in about a page or two, with some ridiculously low number cited as victims killed in concentration camps, and the rest of those two pages talking about how the movement enhanced the cultural scene of Zagreb, or some shit like that. It was pathetic. I was lucky to be raised by former partisan grandparents, who knew a bit more of what was actually going on, and also lucky to be living in the least nationalistic part of Croatia (around Rijeka). I shudder to think what sort of person I would've been if I grew up further south, around Zadar or Dubrovnik in a family with different values. fuck thr right wingers i salute your hero grandpertans Freedom of speech is important in the US but people are always attacking it, and we have problems with text books here also especially in Texas This story sounds like something you'd hear out of Russia or something |
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