Japan's Weekly Blu-ray and DVD Rankings for Oct 24 - 30
Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles
Blu-ray
*1. 45,815 45,815 Love Live! Sunshine!! Vol.2 Special Limited Edition
*2. 25,601 25,601 Detective Conan Movie 20: The Darkest Nightmare Limited Edition
*3. 13,353 13,353 Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai Vol.1 Limited Edition
*4. *7,860 *7,860 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.5
*5. *7,234 *7,234 Macross Δ Vol.4 Special Limited Edition
*6. *5,766 *5,766 High School Fleet Vol.5 Limited Edition
*7. *5,447 *5,447 JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Vol.5 Limited Edition
*8. *5,284 *5,284 Zutto Mae kara Suki deshita.: Kokuhaku Jikkou Iinkai Limited Edition
*9. *4,923 *4,923 New Game! Vol.2
10. *4,514 *4,514 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Vol.3 Limited Edition
11. *3,802 *3,802 Tiger & Bunny Blu-ray BOX
12. *3,554 *3,554 Detective Conan Movie 20: The Darkest Nightmare
13. *3,240 *3,240 Mob Psycho 100 Vol.2 Limited Edition
14. *3,234 *3,234 Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor Reboot
15. *3,017 *3,017 Danganronpa 3: The End of Kibougamine Gakuen Blu-ray BOX Vol.2 Limited Edition
16. *2,782 *2,782 B-Project: Kodou*Ambitious Vol.3 Limited Edition
17. *2,588 *2,588 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 3rei!! Vol.2 Limited Edition
18. *2,470 *2,470 Tsukiuta. The Animation Vol.2
(cut-off 2,470)
DVD
*1. 23,733 23,733 Detective Conan Movie 20: The Darkest Nightmare Limited Edition
*2. *8,772 *8,772 Detective Conan Movie 20: The Darkest Nightmare
*3. *5,991 *5,991 Zutto Mae kara Suki deshita.: Kokuhaku Jikkou Iinkai Limited Edition
*4. *3,055 *3,055 B-Project: Kodou*Ambitious Vol.3 Limited Edition
*5. *2,910 *2,910 Kubikiri Cycle: Aoiro Savant to Zaregototsukai Vol.1 Limited Edition
*6. *2,100 *2,100 Youkai Watch DVD-BOX Vol.5
*7. *1,911 *1,911 Servamp Vol.2
*8. *1,836 *1,836 Mob Psycho 100 Vol.2 Limited Edition
*9. *1,711 *1,711 Kuroko no Basket: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Namida no Saki e
10. *1,527 *1,527 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.5 Limited Edition
11. *1,505 *1,505 Tsukiuta. The Animation Vol.2
12. *1,219 *1,219 JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Vol.5 Limited Edition
13. *1,195 *1,195 Macross Δ Vol.4 Special Limited Edition
14. *1,159 *1,159 One Piece: Heart of Gold Limited Edition
15. *1,067 *1,067 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.5
16. **,961 **,961 High School Fleet Vol.5 Limited Edition
17. **,721 **,721 Masou Gakuen HxH Vol.2 Limited Edition
18. **,697 **,697 Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor Reboot
19. **,654 **,654 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu 2nd Season Vol.8 Limited Edition
20. **,586 **,586 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Vol.3 Limited Edition
21. **,584 **,584 New Game! Vol.2
22. **,573 **,573 91 Days Vol.1
23. **,488 **,488 One Piece Characters Log "Robin & Franky & Brook"
24. **,460 **,460 One Piece: Heart of Gold
25. **,367 **,367 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season Vol.5 Limited Edition
26. **,353 61,820 Youkai Watch Movie 2: Enma Daiou to Itsutsu no Monogatari da Nyan! Special Price Edition
(cut-off 353)
Source: Oricon Youtaiju
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Nov 3, 2016 8:37 PM by jayvee2016
While Macross Delta is selling it actually isn't selling that great for the video discs anyways. The CDs are selling well as you know. I'm still sure we'll see a movie at least but Kawamori sensei had probably hoped for more.
Zutto Mae is actually based on a novel series which is based upon a vocaloid by HoneyWorks. The anime is basically a HoneyWorks music video with some cute shoujo style stories but I like it! Glad to see it is selling pretty well. Along with the novels, songs, etc. I suspect it is doing pretty well for itself. I can't wait for the sequel!
Kabaneri is hard to call. I think they had probably hoped for more disc sales, even with a pretty sweet streaming deal. For me personally it started out well but didn't end well. Not sure if we'll see more of this one.
True on how bad the ending of Kabaneri was but I actually like the concept of the anime so I can't complain compared to Aot which I didn't enjoy at all I prefer Kaba. Sucks the disc sales weren't as great the Directors expected but at least it sold somewhat . Ah I didn't know Zutto was based on vocaloid with a shoujo theme, now I understand why it sold that amount.
As for Macross Delta ( best anime of the year ) not sure why it sold terribly the anime had a good amount of action, music was phenomenal and animation beautiful. I'm not sure if the character development was the cause of it going downhill but HEY I checked Delta's tumblr and it said something about the anime not being over.
Pretty sure the music was what saved the anime to begin with and nw thanks to the fantastic sales we might be getting a movie sequel ^^
I don't like where AOT went in the manga after the anime ended so I'm not really even interested in AOT2. Kabaneri had a great concept, I really loved the first few episodes but the end was a mess so I am not sure what they'd do in a second season anyway.
Nov 3, 2016 2:44 PM by hpulley
Glad it's still selling hopefully Kawamori-sensei palns on doing a Movie or something related to the season, I need my doses of Freyja <3
Whooaa for a Shoujo manga adaption it's not selling so bad, hoping the second movie will sell as much. I want to see more of the cute couples gaaahh!!
I'm glad to see the anime on the list would love to see more of this in the near future it's definitely 10 times better then AoT for sure.
Zutto Mae is actually based on a novel series which is based upon a vocaloid by HoneyWorks. The anime is basically a HoneyWorks music video with some cute shoujo style stories but I like it! Glad to see it is selling pretty well. Along with the novels, songs, etc. I suspect it is doing pretty well for itself. I can't wait for the sequel!
Kabaneri is hard to call. I think they had probably hoped for more disc sales, even with a pretty sweet streaming deal. For me personally it started out well but didn't end well. Not sure if we'll see more of this one.
True on how bad the ending of Kabaneri was but I actually like the concept of the anime so I can't complain compared to Aot which I didn't enjoy at all I prefer Kaba. Sucks the disc sales weren't as great the Directors expected but at least it sold somewhat . Ah I didn't know Zutto was based on vocaloid with a shoujo theme, now I understand why it sold that amount.
As for Macross Delta ( best anime of the year ) not sure why it sold terribly the anime had a good amount of action, music was phenomenal and animation beautiful. I'm not sure if the character development was the cause of it going downhill but HEY I checked Delta's tumblr and it said something about the anime not being over.
Pretty sure the music was what saved the anime to begin with and nw thanks to the fantastic sales we might be getting a movie sequel ^^
Nov 3, 2016 2:38 PM by NoNameNoName000
Nov 3, 2016 7:10 AM by Jiharo
Not a huge sales follower , but pretty good to see cut-off at 2k+ , as I remember some have been around 200 , right ?
Nov 3, 2016 4:27 AM by hpulley
Nov 2, 2016 7:46 PM by keragamming
Other sales points from the BD Movies, BD Drama, BD/DVD Idol Image BD lists on Oricon Youtaiju, and from an Oricon Biz leak (coloured in red).
BD
*30 2,015 (Top 30 BD All-Genre cut-off)
*31 Rewrite Vol.2
*35 1,532
*36 1,520
*37 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.5
*38 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd SEASON Vol.5
*39 1,229
*40 Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru! Vol.2
*42 SERVAMP Vol.2
*43 1,067
*44 *,988
*45 *,975
*46 *,962 ONE PIECE ~Heart of Gold~ Limited Edition
*47 *,933
*48 Anne Happy♪ Vol.5
*49 Qualidea Code Vol.2
*53 Shokugeki no Souma 2 Vol.2
*54 *,803 Berserk Vol.1
*55 Hundred Vol.5
*56 *,786 Ange Vierge BD-BOX Vol.1
*57 Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge Vol.5
*58 Koukaku no Pandora Vol.6
*60 *,623 91Days Vol.1
*65 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu 2 Vol.8
*68 *,487 Mai Mai Shinko to Sennen no Mahou
*74 *,406
*75 ReLIFE Vol.3
*76 Mahou Shoujo? Naria☆Girls Vol.2
*77 Sakamoto desu ga? Vol.5
*85 *,301
*92 Nejimaki Seirei Senki Tenkyou no Alderamin Vol.2
*98 Hatsukoi Monster Vol.2
108 Taboo Tattoo Vol.2
123 TERRAFORMARS REVENGE Vol.5
126 *,172 「selector spread WIXOSS」BD-BOX
150 Cheer Danshi! Vol.2
168 Handa-kun Vol.2
173 Sousei no Onmyouji Vol.5
187 *,119 ONE PIECE ~Heart of Gold~ Regular Edition
214 *,103 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou Complete BD-BOX
232 Love Live! Sunshine Vol.2 Regular Edition
260 *,*82 TV Anime 3rd Season "Onegai My Melody Sukkiri♪"
290 *,*74 Taiyou no Shisha Tetsujin 28 Go BD-BOX Vol.1
DVD
*92 *,367
*96 Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge Vol.5
*** *,353 (Top 30 DVD Animation cut-off)
111 *,294 Qualidea Code Vol.2
113 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 3rei!! Vol.2
120 *,270
122 Hundred Vol.5
125 Rewrite Vol.2
142 Anne Happy♪ Vol.5
177 ReLIFE Vol.3
184 Cheer Danshi! Vol.2
184 Hatsukoi Monster Vol.2
184 Sakamoto desu ga? Vol.5
190 *,159 Ange Vierge DVD-BOX Vol.1
220 Joker Game Vol.4
Nov 2, 2016 5:54 PM by Ejc
Not a huge sales follower , but pretty good to see cut-off at 2k+ , as I remember some have been around 200 , right ?
The cut-off number is largely irrelevant. Oricon releases these BD/DVD sales lists (on Oricon Youtaiju) on Tuesday afternoons in Japan:
● Top 20 BD Animation
● Top 30 All-Genre BD
● Top 30 DVD Animation
● Top 50 All-Genre DVD
● Top 10 BD Music
● Top 30 DVD Music
● Top 20 BD+DVD Music
● Top 10 BD Movies
● Top 10 BD Dramas
● Top 10 Idol Image BDs
● Top 10 Idol Image DVDs
Of course, the relevant ones are the first 7 there, but we can sometimes ball park how much other Animation BD/DVD sold by using sales points from the bottom 4 sales lists there.
Now, taking BDs for example, if there are more than 20 Animation BDs (this includes Western animation by the way) within the Top 30 All-Genre BDs in more populated weeks , then we utilise the Top 30 All-Genre BD, which will usually have a higher cut-off, while if there are less than 20 Animation BDs within the Top 30 All-Genre BDs, then we utilise the Top 20 BD Animation as it is guaranteed to have 20 Animation BDs on there. These slow weeks would usually have a lower cut-off.
The gist of it all, is that it all depends on how many new Animation discs are being released within a week, that will determine what the cut-off for the week is. However, we always get the Top 100 Animation BD and the Top 100 Animation DVD on Thursday nights/Friday morning in Japan from someone who has a much more expensive Oricon Biz subscription.
Nov 2, 2016 4:26 PM by Ejc
hopefully its start declining so it can die out faster than any category of anime ever before
Just for that comment, I hope sales will keep increasing. ^__^
I second that in all honesty and as much as people do not really like these I find them actually enjoyable for my end. That all depends how of course.
Nov 2, 2016 11:59 AM by removed-user
Nov 2, 2016 11:53 AM by Etherealis
Since @hpulley tagged me, I will add the numbers here...
This is how much Love Live! 2nd Season roughly made in 2014:
116,500 @ ¥4,860 = ¥*,566,190,000 → Vol.1 Limited Edition. Assume it sold the lower bound of the given figure of 117K rounded (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2047284/full/)
***,396 @ ¥3,780 = ¥*,**1,496,880 → Vol.1 Regular Edition.
245,352 @ ¥7,560 = ¥1,854,861,120 → 362,248 copies total for Vol.1 to 6 from the Anime Series 2014 Yearly ranking.
Total = ¥2,422,548,000
Oricon had Love Live! at ¥5,371,600,000 in the Overall Series 2014 Ranking (https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1416495), so the CDs and live concert discs make slightly more money than the anime.
Now, Love Live!'s franchise sales in 2014 was revealed to be ¥43.2 billion from the Cool Japan magazine (http://yusaani.com/news/2015/09/19/194023/), so the 2014 sales of the 2nd Season is around 5.7% of the total 2014 franchise sales. That's a very small portion, which shows why disc sales are not as important as it once was for huge multimedia franchises. Even for smaller franchises, many have several other revenue streams (such as overseas streaming, merchadise, mobile game sales, etc), that I expect disc sales to be not as important as back then.
Adding to this discussion, some recent articles about this have talked about how the studios see sales of physical BluRay / DvD sales as at least a hope of breaking even.
Unpopular series = maybe we can at least break even given enough sales from the next 5-10 years. Extra dough from streaming helps alot more here
semi to very Popular Series = Physical sales will break even the cost of the show for sure. + some $ from streaming.
The real money here is the increase sales of the Manga / Light Novel (if it had any), and any other Merchandise - Good examples are are recent Hits SAO & AoT
Physical sales here will be a small fraction of the total coming in for these hits
Nov 2, 2016 11:37 AM by zeusfox
μ's Final Live Day 2 just short of 90,000 Oricon sales now.
*** *29 ***,552 *78,187 *5 Love Live! μ's Final LoveLive! ~μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪~ BD Memorial BOX
○ラブライブ! μ's Final LoveLive! ~μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪~
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
BD(DVD) BD(DVD) BD(DVD)
BOX 71,185 75,627 78,187 16.09.28 ※BDのみ販売 [Weeks: 5/5]
LIVE **,814(*3,280) **,919(*3,672) **,919(*3,905) 16.09.28 ※合計 83,011枚 ※Day1 [Weeks: BD = 2/2, DVD = 3/4]
LIVE *3,472(*5,796) *3,916(*6,546) *4,325(*7,271) 16.09.28 ※合計 89,783枚 ※Day2 [Weeks: BD = 4/4, DVD = 4/4]
Big drop from Vol.1. It's all bizarre though, as the underestimation for Vol.2 is very very low. Even lower than Vol.6 of Love Live! 2nd Season, which had stock issues in week 1.
I'm not sure if Vol.2 had major stock issues at other stores besides Amazon JP... but if not, then I guess some who bought solely for the 1st live Day 1 serial code, did not feel the need to buy Vol.2 right now, unless they don't end up winning the right to buy tickets for Day 1 from the Day 1 lottery. It's likely that many will be in this boat, as there are only 12,000 seats available for Day 1. I heard they will not utilise the full 17,000 capacity, just like how only 50,000 of the 55,000 capacity at Tokyo Dome, was utilised per day of the μ's Final Live, because of the stage.
Vol.1: 49,484 estimate with 66,912 week 1 (35.22% underestimated)
Vol.2: 40,531 estimate with 45,815 week 1 (13.07% underestimated)
2nd Season data...
Vol.1: 60,214 estimate with 82,505 week 1 (37.02% underestimated)
Vol.2: 23,867 estimate with 41,865 week 1 (75.41% underestimated)
Vol.3: 23,407 estimate with 41,482 week 1 (77.22% underestimated)
Vol.4: 29,051 estimate with 41,243 week 1 (41.97% underestimated)
Vol.5: 27,964 estimate with 38,997 week 1 (39.45% underestimated)
Vol.6: 24,239 estimate with 30,960 week 1 (27.73% underestimated) ← Stock issues, as it had a huge 10,809 week 2
Vol.7: 38,670 estimate with 51,985 week 1 (34.43% underestimated)
So happy to see Love Live! Sunshine in the top 1 again. Any news for second season? I'm sure there will be a second but will it be on 2017?
The 2nd Season will most likely be announced during the 1st Aqours live in February 2017. It's not 100% that it'll be in 2017 though, but if the production committee does not want to run into the same problem with contracts as what happened with μ's, then they will want to do as many things as possible within 5~6 years. That's assuming they haven't done something different with the contracts with Aqours...
It's still number one in sales so for those who like that its a good thing right? It's just not something I'm into but that's just me.
Nov 2, 2016 7:53 AM by TricksterZero
An average of 7000 per volume. That means if volume 1 is 7000 and it keeps dropping after that (usually the case) to where volume 6 is 5000, it's not there.
And actually, prices are lower than they used to be. It used to be $60-80+ even for a regular DVD with 1-2 episodes. This is because Japan has a completely different market dynamic. You see, in the US and most other countries, there's a two-tiered system. Normal consumers pay one price, and rental outlets (Netflix, Blockbuster, Red Box, etc) pay a different, higher price - typically 2-3 times the cost of the "home use" version. The higher priced version accords with it additional user rights for commercial applications like renting it out or screening it in front of a paying group. In Japan, the personal market is small due to a variety of factors, and especially so for niche markets like anime. As such, the home use tier is nonexistent there - only the commercial tier is ever produced. That means that anyone who wants to buy the series pays the same amount and gets the same version that would show up in a Japanese version of Blockbuster.
What rental business still exists in Japan (Blockbuster exited Japan in 1999) is mostly in barebones DVD versions. They would never purchase the expensive limited edition Blurays with all the bonuses anyways as they would just get lost and damaged.
So your explanation is probably about 20 years too late. The high prices have persisted and were the main source of revenue for anime at one time but today that is no longer true for most shows. Streaming, including foreign streaming especially to China, is a really large proportion of it and big companies like Amazon Prime Video, Netflix and others pay a very high fee for worldwide streaming rights. As @Ejc has posted recently, even the huge sellers like LoveLive and Gundam only sell a small portion of their overall sales in discs and manga.
Since @hpulley tagged me, I will add the numbers here...
This is how much Love Live! 2nd Season roughly made in 2014:
116,500 @ ¥4,860 = ¥*,566,190,000 → Vol.1 Limited Edition. Assume it sold the lower bound of the given figure of 117K rounded (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2047284/full/)
***,396 @ ¥3,780 = ¥*,**1,496,880 → Vol.1 Regular Edition.
245,352 @ ¥7,560 = ¥1,854,861,120 → 362,248 copies total for Vol.1 to 6 from the Anime Series 2014 Yearly ranking.
Total = ¥2,422,548,000
Oricon had Love Live! at ¥5,371,600,000 in the Overall Series 2014 Ranking (https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1416495), so the CDs and live concert discs make slightly more money than the anime.
Now, Love Live!'s franchise sales in 2014 was revealed to be ¥43.2 billion from the Cool Japan magazine (http://yusaani.com/news/2015/09/19/194023/), so the 2014 sales of the 2nd Season is around 5.7% of the total 2014 franchise sales. That's a very small portion, which shows why disc sales are not as important as it once was for huge multimedia franchises. Even for smaller franchises, many have several other revenue streams (such as overseas streaming, merchadise, mobile game sales, etc), that I expect disc sales to be not as important as back then.
Nov 2, 2016 5:37 AM by Ejc
hopefully its start declining so it can die out faster than any category of anime ever before
Just for that comment, I hope sales will keep increasing. ^__^
Nov 2, 2016 4:59 AM by phoenixalia
Appreciate the analysis. That is insane how much the Blu-ray cost in Japan. I almost can't believe it to be honest. For the sales to be great it would need to sell 7000 each volume or total? I assume each volume, as 7000 doesn't not seem like it would fetch much money.
And actually, prices are lower than they used to be. It used to be $60-80+ even for a regular DVD with 1-2 episodes. This is because Japan has a completely different market dynamic. You see, in the US and most other countries, there's a two-tiered system. Normal consumers pay one price, and rental outlets (Netflix, Blockbuster, Red Box, etc) pay a different, higher price - typically 2-3 times the cost of the "home use" version. The higher priced version accords with it additional user rights for commercial applications like renting it out or screening it in front of a paying group. In Japan, the personal market is small due to a variety of factors, and especially so for niche markets like anime. As such, the home use tier is nonexistent there - only the commercial tier is ever produced. That means that anyone who wants to buy the series pays the same amount and gets the same version that would show up in a Japanese version of Blockbuster.
What rental business still exists in Japan (Blockbuster exited Japan in 1999) is mostly in barebones DVD versions. They would never purchase the expensive limited edition Blurays with all the bonuses anyways as they would just get lost and damaged.
So your explanation is probably about 20 years too late. The high prices have persisted and were the main source of revenue for anime at one time but today that is no longer true for most shows. Streaming, including foreign streaming especially to China, is a really large proportion of it and big companies like Amazon Prime Video, Netflix and others pay a very high fee for worldwide streaming rights. As @Ejc has posted recently, even the huge sellers like LoveLive and Gundam only sell a small portion of their overall sales in discs and manga.
Nov 2, 2016 3:41 AM by hpulley
It's for volume 5. Each volume typically consists of 2 episodes, which would make this episodes 9-10.
Now, for sales and profitability: each volume also costs as much as a complete season/series set in the US ($50-60), if you want to get an idea of what the revenues are like, and these do have pretty good margins due to the high price. But they need it when you look at those sales numbers. Last I heard, one episode typically cost about $140,000-180,000, give or take, or about $2 million for a single cour.
Profitability gets more complicated, but 3000-4000 is generally considered around the break even area, though that can be significantly lower, or higher, depending on costs and merchandise sales. Typically, that's really only recouping around 50% of the production cost through DVD sales (again, give or take). That means that, at about 5000-6000, a show is getting ready to break even just through DVD/Blu-Ray, but still not a spectacular success. 7000+ is something that's starting to get broad support and see real profits, and 10,000+ is a hot property. 20,000+ is amazing enough to save a studio, and Love Live is near god tier.
Note that for this, sales estimates include both DVD and Blu-Ray, and are figured as an average among all volumes.
Edit: Putting it together, Love Live Sunshine isn't just doing well, it can just about fund an entire 1-cour series from the sales of each volume. The Detective Conan movie outsold it, but its content cost probably around 2-3 times as much as that of a typical series volume. Kubikiri Cycle is doing very well for an OVA, while Zutto Mae is posting decent results for a movie. re:Zero and Macross Delta are hovering between very good and great sales. The rest of those on the blu-ray list are mediocre to decent in sales, but nothing really stands out. On the other hand, there are no complete flops there either.
And actually, prices are lower than they used to be. It used to be $60-80+ even for a regular DVD with 1-2 episodes. This is because Japan has a completely different market dynamic. You see, in the US and most other countries, there's a two-tiered system. Normal consumers pay one price, and rental outlets (Netflix, Blockbuster, Red Box, etc) pay a different, higher price - typically 2-3 times the cost of the "home use" version. The higher priced version accords with it additional user rights for commercial applications like renting it out or screening it in front of a paying group. In Japan, the personal market is small due to a variety of factors, and especially so for niche markets like anime. As such, the home use tier is nonexistent there - only the commercial tier is ever produced. That means that anyone who wants to buy the series pays the same amount and gets the same version that would show up in a Japanese version of Blockbuster.
Nov 1, 2016 10:37 PM by ErwinJA
Dunno if my order counted there, but the feeling of able to make LL series keep their reigns surely amazing. Don't really care about the ticket tho, as I won't be able to visit Japan until at least Aug next year.
If the copy was sent to a non-Japanese address, then the retailer you bought it from will report the sale as an "overseas sale" to Oricon. Oricon no longer include overseas sales in the sales numbers that's released (source is an email reply from CD Japan in 2014: http://www.someanithing.com/1552). The publisher obviously knows how many copies have been shipped, regardless if it was overseas or not, but they will not know how many have been sold in total (shipped is always equal or greater than the number of sold copies), only their domestic sales.
Nov 1, 2016 9:06 PM by Ejc
@ErwinJA nice writing there, thanks.
Nov 1, 2016 8:23 PM by Wilhelmina
Looks like Rezero is doing decent. Why does it say Vol 5 at the end? Also, any idea what is decent sales for an anime? I know everyone is different, just kind of a rule of thumb like 5000 sales/cour.
Now, for sales and profitability: each volume also costs as much as a complete season/series set in the US ($50-60), if you want to get an idea of what the revenues are like, and these do have pretty good margins due to the high price. But they need it when you look at those sales numbers. Last I heard, one episode typically cost about $140,000-180,000, give or take, or about $2 million for a single cour.
Profitability gets more complicated, but 3000-4000 is generally considered around the break even area, though that can be significantly lower, or higher, depending on costs and merchandise sales. Typically, that's really only recouping around 50% of the production cost through DVD sales (again, give or take). That means that, at about 5000-6000, a show is getting ready to break even just through DVD/Blu-Ray, but still not a spectacular success. 7000+ is something that's starting to get broad support and see real profits, and 10,000+ is a hot property. 20,000+ is amazing enough to save a studio, and Love Live is near god tier.
Note that for this, sales estimates include both DVD and Blu-Ray, and are figured as an average among all volumes.
Edit: Putting it together, Love Live Sunshine isn't just doing well, it can just about fund an entire 1-cour series from the sales of each volume. The Detective Conan movie outsold it, but its content cost probably around 2-3 times as much as that of a typical series volume. Kubikiri Cycle is doing very well for an OVA, while Zutto Mae is posting decent results for a movie. re:Zero and Macross Delta are hovering between very good and great sales. The rest of those on the blu-ray list are mediocre to decent in sales, but nothing really stands out. On the other hand, there are no complete flops there either.
Nov 1, 2016 7:27 PM by Rawrberto
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○ラブライブ! μ's Final LoveLive! ~μ'sic Forever♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪~
巻数 初動 2週計 累計 発売日
BD(DVD) BD(DVD) BD(DVD)
BOX 71,185 75,627 78,187 16.09.28 ※BDのみ販売 [Weeks: 5/5]
LIVE **,814(*3,280) **,919(*3,672) **,919(*3,905) 16.09.28 ※合計 83,011枚 ※Day1 [Weeks: BD = 2/2, DVD = 3/4]
LIVE *3,472(*5,796) *3,916(*6,546) *4,490(*7,461) 16.09.28 ※合計 90,138枚 ※Day2 [Weeks: BD = 5/5, DVD = 5/5]
Nov 4, 2016 10:11 AM by Ejc