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Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Sep 10 - 16

by dtshyk
Sep 18, 2012 1:30 AM | 80 Comments
Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for September 10th - 16th.

Blu-ray
*1, 1,002 *8,760 Tari Tari vol.1
*2, *,574 *4,053 Oda Nobuna no Yabou vol.1
*3, *,409 10,481 Kuroko no Basket vol.2
*4, *,399 51,341 Nisemonogatari vol.5 Limited Edition
*5, *,359 *7,132 Mouretsu Pirates vol.7 Limited Edition
*6, *,335 *8,673 Hyouka vol.3 Limited Edition
*7, *,333 *3,275 AKB0048 vol.3
*8, *,329 28,719 Persona 4 The Animation vol.10 Limited Edition
*9, *,282 *7,826 Accel World vol.2 Limited Edition
10, *,253 10,073 Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo Reprint Edition

DVD
*1, 1,012 1,159,578 My Neighbor Totoro
*2, *,658 *,*12,737 Kuroko no Basket vol.2
*3, *,567 *,*22,771 One Piece Log Collection "Franky"
*4, *,499 *,*21,404 One Piece Log Collection "Thriller Bark"
*5, *,491 *,*19,900 Summer Wars
*6, *,475 *,*57,054 Kokurikozaka Kara Standard Edition
*7, *,400 *,488,661 Majo no Takkyuubin
*8, *,369 *,906,796 Gake no Ue no Ponyo
*9, *,308 2,376,541 Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
10, *,291 *,**3,423 Inazuma Eleven DVD Box vol.2
11, *,282 *,*12,854 Kuroko no Basket vol.1
12, *,282 *,756,109 Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa

Single CD
10, 10,049 10,049 Taketatsu Ayana "♪ no Kuni no Alice"
12, *8,529 *8,529 Kuroko no Basket Character Song Solo Series vol.6 Junpei
13, *8,027 *8,027 Kuroko no Basket Character Song Solo Series vol.7 Shun
16, *6,222 40,700 Joshiraku "Nippon Egao Hyakkei"
17, *5,971 *5,971 Kuroko no Basket Character Song Solo Series vol.8 Shinji
18, *5,818 58,582 Colorful "Boku ga Boku de Arutame Ni"
30, *3,245 70,660 Sword Art Online "crossing field"
33, *2,606 18,648 Hatsune Miku "Odds & Ends" "Sky of Beginning"
35, *2,454 16,699 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love 1000% Idol Song Ranmaru & Camus
36, *2,414 12,157 Eureka Seven AO "Brazblue"
39, *2,131 22,923 Kuroko no Basket Duet Series vol.2 Tetsuya & Ryota
43, *1,881 44,851 Kagero Project "Children Code"
46, *1,795 *7,595 Mobile Suit Gundam AGE "Aurora"

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

20 of 80 Comments Recent Comments

Hoppy said:
I hope Dog Days' sells, a 3rd season is needed for completions sake as the 2nd was exceptional but was a filler season.

Not sure why you say it is a filler season. Continuation, new chapter, focus shift, expanded worldview are all descriptions I have seen for DD 2nd season, but not a filler. If you say it is a filler, you are saying that this 2nd season is not really necessary and the story can just continue from 1st season to a 3rd season without much problem, but that would ignore a whole new country, two new Yusha, two important ancestor characters and a few other new characters introduced in the 2nd season. Perhaps you are thinking of the grand battle in the 1st season that is very much lay dormant in the 2nd season. Since the anime staff made it clear that they intentionally shifted the focus away from hard fighting against powerful monster, I doubt any kind of grand scale adventure type of story will make it to 3rd season if one is ever made.

Dog Days will sell (in terms of passing the breakeven line), but the key question is how much drop in sales will it suffer compared to 1st season. The bad jokes going around among some fans in Japan are the "Ika Milky course", a reference to the huge drop in sales for the 2nd season of Ika-musume and Milky Holmes. Both Yuru Yuri and Dog Days are identified by some fans to be the prime candidates to be a successor to the "Ika Milky course" The answer would hinge on how much of the sales of DD or YY happen on storefront because the figures as shown on Amazon are not too encouraging so far.

Sep 23, 2012 1:15 AM by symbv

Hoppy said:
I hope Dog Days' sells, a 3rd season is needed for completions sake as the 2nd was exceptional but was a filler season.

DOG DAYS 1 【完全生産限定版】 [Blu-ray]
最新順位 ***,276位(2011年08月03日05時)
最高順位 ***,*59位(2011年07月28日)
最低順位 **1,176位(2011年05月07日)
平均順位 ***,275位(中央値)
最新累積ポイント Blu-ray:3543pt (※注意事項)
最終予測累積ポイント Blu-ray:3543pt(発売中)

DOG DAYS´ 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
最新順位 ***,149位(2012年09月23日13時)
最高順位 ***,*26位(2012年07月15日)
最低順位 **5,443位(2012年07月23日)
平均順位 ***,177位(中央値)
最新累積ポイント Blu-ray:3291pt (※注意事項)
最終予測累積ポイント Blu-ray:3497pt(残り日数4)

On track for identical Stalker estimate compared to season one. Stalker hugely underestimates DD (since it was popular at physical stores) so if the percentage of underestimation is the same thing time, we should be fine. But if a lot of the storefront customers switched to Amazon, not so much....

Real sales were: 3226 DVD, 6401 BD first week. Regarding DVD:

DOG DAYS 1 【完全生産限定版】 [DVD]
最新順位 ***,818位(2011年08月03日05時)
最高順位 ***,250位(2011年07月27日)
最低順位 **6,882位(2011年05月28日)
平均順位 **1,160位(中央値)
最新累積ポイント DVD:2109pt (※注意事項)
最終予測累積ポイント DVD:2109pt(発売中)

DOG DAYS´ 1(完全生産限定版) [DVD]
最新順位 ***,942位(2012年09月23日13時)
最高順位 ***,361位(2012年07月22日)
最低順位 **2,896位(2012年08月19日)
平均順位 **1,005位(中央値)
最新累積ポイント DVD:1392pt (※注意事項)
最終予測累積ポイント DVD:1502pt(残り日数4)

DVD is where it might take a hit. DVD points are significantly below the first season, but will still rank and this has a chance of selling as well as Tari Tari if the underestimation from season one holds. In any case it shouldn't be a flop, unless buyers have moved completely over to Amazon in which case 5k or less Vol. 1.

Sep 22, 2012 10:43 PM by jmal

I hope Dog Days' sells, a 3rd season is needed for completions sake as the 2nd was exceptional but was a filler season.

Sep 22, 2012 5:31 PM by Hoppy

jmal said:
Downgrade355 said:
and if the sales keep going strong as they are right now, i wouldn't be surprised if it outsold bakemono

Well that's going too far... I'm not setting expectations an inch above 40k max until within two weeks of release. I'll take another look at it then.

I happened to be looking at the SAO Stalker page and remembered this exchange, and thought it provided a good example of something I've mentioned before.

I assume you happened to look at Stalker and see that, at the time when you posted, the estimate was over 87,000 for Vol. 1. Now, just four days later, it's 47,000 because the first volume has dropped from the top to about ~15 at the moment. This is what I meant when I said that estimates fluctuate wildly when you're more than a month (or a couple weeks) from release like we are now.

Just a nice clear example of why using the estimates can be messy.

Sep 22, 2012 5:19 PM by jmal

symbv said:

Progeusz said:

I guess Another's results made me think too highly of PA Works' fanbase.

"Another" was hurt by a few things:
1. As someone mentioned before, the horror genre already makes it a niche market to begin with.
2. The novel itself is popular enough to get a real-life movie treatment. However many fans of the original novel disagreed heavily on the adaptation (particularly the ending) and considered it had been changed too much or the focus was wrongly placed.
3. The way it deals with character's death, particularly in its second half, was not viewed favorably by many anime fans, regardless of whether they have read the original novel.

It did receive high praises from fans on its character design and background art though, which are considered the best strengths of PA Works' products.


I agree, the ending doesn't seemed quite right. I hate how animation studios tend to insert an anime-original ending, while the work itself is already a masterpiece. Plus, Another is a very niche anime and not all people could cope with such bloody horror.

Sep 22, 2012 2:00 AM by Reim_Seranth

Progeusz said:
As I thought, many people (who don't follow Stalker - it should obvious) are really surprised with TT's success. That tells something about its quality...

Actually I beg to differ. It is common practice for fans in Japan (those who cared about sales figure) to make guess of how well an anime would sell before the season started or at the beginning of the series, usually before the Stalker's figure is available. I still remember even then the guesses were near 10,000. So your theory that people who don't follow Stalker should find TT's success surprising does not really stand on firm ground.
Progeusz said:

I guess Another's results made me think too highly of PA Works' fanbase.

"Another" was hurt by a few things:
1. As someone mentioned before, the horror genre already makes it a niche market to begin with.
2. The novel itself is popular enough to get a real-life movie treatment. However many fans of the original novel disagreed strongly on the adaptation (particularly the ending) and considered it had been changed too much or the focus was wrongly placed.
3. The way it deals with character's death, particularly in its second half, was not viewed favorably by many anime fans, regardless of whether they have read the original novel.

It did receive high praises from fans on its character design and background art though, which are considered the best strengths of PA Works' products.


Hikarusuke said:
Tari Tari selling well. It's an okay anime but it defiently isn't a top selling anime imo so there has to be a reason for the high sales.

I think you may need to define what it means by "top selling".
The rule of thumb in anime industry is that 10,000 represents the level where a "big hit" is. And it should not be just the vol.1 sales, but the overall average for the whole series. Tari Tari has not reached that level yet. At 8000-9000 it is clearly a hit though.

As for the reasons why it has good sales and is popular, I mentioned what they might be in previous week's BD sales thread.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=489721&pages=7&show=120#msg17224219

Sep 21, 2012 8:49 PM by symbv

Totoro ^_________^

Sep 21, 2012 8:29 AM by Misaola

Progeusz said:
As I thought, many people (who don't follow Stalker - it should obvious) are really surprised with TT's success. That tells something about its quality...
And jmal, I don't agree with saying that everything is subjective. There are great, good, fine, average and bad things. Personal taste can change private rankings completely for some individuals but nonetheless we can say that x is overall better than y.
I guess Another's results made me think too highly of PA Works' fanbase.

Also, jmal and symbv, thanks for all the info! dtshyk too, for weekly rankings!


>Rates Sword Art Online a 9
>Complains about quality.

Sep 20, 2012 3:12 PM by Uberchu

Droplet said:
Oh boy, forgot about that. It'll be interesting to see then

In the least shocking news ever, it's #1 on the BD charts for the first two days of its release.

Hikarusuke said:
Tari Tari selling well. It's an okay anime but it defiently isn't a top selling anime imo so there has to be a reason for the high sales.

I wouldn't consider 8.7k after two weeks for a first volume with an event ticket top selling. Figure it'll average a bit lower than HanaIro's 8.5k (maybe 7.5k). That's a solid hit, but a far cry from the Horizons or SAOs or Kurokos of late. Seems about right for a well-received show from a popular studio aiming at the fanbase of their previous popular show that sold about the same.

Sep 20, 2012 2:16 PM by jmal

Hikarusuke said:
Tari Tari selling well. It's an okay anime but it defiently isn't a top selling anime imo so there has to be a reason for the high sales.
Sales are high because people like it. Can't get simpler than that.

Sep 20, 2012 2:16 PM by Yvese

Tari Tari selling well. It's an okay anime but it defiently isn't a top selling anime imo so there has to be a reason for the high sales.

Sep 20, 2012 2:10 PM by Hikarusuke

Ejc said:
Droplet said:
Fate/Zero II's points on Stalker don't seem that great? Obviously most anime would be lucky to sell like that, but in comparison to the first season it's... kinda... not good?


Fate/Zero II was delisted off Amazon for quite some time due to that debacle between Aniplex and Amazon. Thus, stalker wouldn't be such a good representation in this case. I'm predicting ~45-55k, since the 1st BD Box sold ~51k.


Oh boy, forgot about that. It'll be interesting to see then

Sep 20, 2012 2:08 PM by Droplet

Progeusz said:
And jmal, I don't agree with saying that everything is subjective. There are great, good, fine, average and bad things. Personal taste can change private rankings completely for some individuals but nonetheless we can say that x is overall better than y.

You can say it, but that doesn't make it provable, right? Attempts to quantify "quality" inherently require some kind of rubric. You have to have criteria you're measuring against or there's no logical basis, and objectivity requires a logical basis. You have to approach claims of objectivity with a scientific mindset.

The reason it's inherently subjective when it comes to art and entertainment is that everyone's criteria are so different. Now, there are financial and technical measurements - budget, frames count, animation staff size, CG polygon count, whatever - that can be made. Similar to how you can measure the technical perfection of reproducing a Mozart piece on the piano, if that's what you value.

But those can hope, at best, to only correlate with enjoyment (KyoAni's popularity surely has something to do with their demonstrably high production values), not cause it. I also argue they only provide a very, very superficial and unenlightening understanding of why entertainment exists in the first place.

What is "objectively good" comedy, exactly?

Trying to "prove" one show is "objectively better" than another is almost as impossible as trying to "prove" one religion is better than another. What are you measuring? What one person believes brings damnation, another equally believes is a requirement for paradise, and another believes both the first two are crazy. How do you reconcile that?

I think the best you can do is make an argument that certain shows do certain things better than other shows that try to do the same things, but reasonable people will still completely disagree, and once you stop comparing like to like it gets even less helpful.

Sep 20, 2012 7:59 AM by jmal

As I thought, many people (who don't follow Stalker - it should obvious) are really surprised with TT's success. That tells something about its quality...
And jmal, I don't agree with saying that everything is subjective. There are great, good, fine, average and bad things. Personal taste can change private rankings completely for some individuals but nonetheless we can say that x is overall better than y.
I guess Another's results made me think too highly of PA Works' fanbase.

Also, jmal and symbv, thanks for all the info! dtshyk too, for weekly rankings!

Sep 20, 2012 6:50 AM by Progeusz

zensunni said:


I still hope it clears 10,000 total for volume 1!


It probably will but we probably won't find out about it. But then if we counted that then the 10k sales list would be far less exclusive; every series sells quite a bit more after it drops out the rankings.

Sep 20, 2012 12:42 AM by kuuderes_shadow

Kurimu-chan said:
Still really surprised at how Tari Tari is selling. Expected it to sell WAY lower.

And Kuroko no Basket~


zheren said:
no.1 TARI TARI ??? thats surprising

Why? It has consistently been rated in the top three in terms of "Currently airing" shows in polls on Japanese sites and was projected to sell nearly twice as many discs than it did by one site. (That site evidently always over-estimates sales and was off by a similar margin on their Madoka prediction, of course, the numbers are an order of magnitude higher for Madoka!)

Tari Tari has been one of the most successful shows of the season on both sides of the pacific. I am just curious why folks are so surprised that it is selling relatively well?

The fact that it was #1 two weeks in a row is surprising, but that is just because there were no new releases this week. Next week, when it sells another 500 or so, it will drop way down behind the new stuff.

I still hope it clears 10,000 total for volume 1!

Sep 19, 2012 8:54 PM by zensunni

and Oda's masterpiece will gonna be in list forever, too. :)

Sep 19, 2012 7:11 PM by FourLeafClover

Yvese said:
Sales were pretty good. 8-9k for all volumes I believe.

Yeah, just missed joining the 10k club with a 9,673 average.

Sep 19, 2012 12:08 PM by jmal

IPerv said:
Why dont i see there Highschool Dxd?
I heard it got good sales or am I wrong?
The last volume was already released weeks ago.

Sales were pretty good. 8-9k for all volumes I believe.

Sep 19, 2012 11:36 AM by Yvese

next week next week next week

Sep 19, 2012 11:34 AM by articuzwolf

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