Have you or anyone you know spent time in jail or prison?

I spent many years in compulsory school, if that qualifies as prison.

I spent many years in compulsory school, if that qualifies as prison.

@Zarutaku 𝖶𝗁𝖺𝗍'𝗌 𝖺 𝖼𝗈𝗆𝗉𝗎𝗅𝗌𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝗌𝖼𝗁𝗈𝗈𝗅?

@aurora_yuuki A school chu are obliged to attend.

@Zarutaku 𝗐𝗁𝗒 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝗁𝗎 𝖻𝖾 𝗈𝖻𝗅𝗂𝗀𝖾𝖽?

.@aurora_yuuki Because of the law.

@Zarutaku 𝖶𝗁𝗒 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗅𝖺𝗐 𝖾𝗇𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗅 𝖻𝖾𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗈𝖻𝗅𝗂𝗀𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝖺𝗍𝗍𝖾𝗇𝖽 𝖼𝗈𝗆𝗉𝗎𝗅𝗌𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝗌𝖼𝗁𝗈𝗈𝗅?

@aurora_yuuki Because society wants its kids to attend school.

What for should the person have been?

@Zarutaku Terrible animal abuse. I could have reported him, but just the thought of opposing him in such a way honestly made me fear for my life.

@Zarutaku That person hasn't been in my life for years now and I prefer to keep it that way. Sure, I've made a lot of murder jokes around here but I prefer to stay really far away from real evil.

But: don't you live close to nature?

@Zarutaku Eh… not really, but I don’t see the connection.

@fleurbleue So you think nature isn't cruel?

@Zarutaku Animals doing their best to survive can be seen as cruel to some, sure. But I didn't mention cruelty but evilness, which is pretty related to morality. Can animals be immoral? Maybe, who knows. I'm not going to debate that or look too much into it. But I'm pretty sure they can't be more immoral than humans.

@fleurbleue So when a new lion harem king murders the kids of his predecessor, he isn't more immoral than humans?

@Zarutaku Infanticide in the animal kingdom is a reproductive strategy to get the female back in heat. It isn't pure evil killing just for the sake of it. It's driven by instinct, not malice.

So rape isn't pure evil as well, because it's a reproductive strategy?

@Zarutaku So long as we are talking about animals and not humans, it probably isn't. As I stated above, I don't want to start a debate on whether or not animals can be immoral or not, but chances are still that they have little to no moral awareness. Feel free to apply human moral standards to animals if you so terribly want them to be evil, but humans are still the worst by far to me.

So you believe in moral relativism?

@Zarutaku What I believe is irrelevant. It isn't moral relativism to not apply morality to animals other than humans.

So it's irrelevant what you believe about good and evil?

@Zarutaku What I believe was irrelevant to your question, you big dummy.

Isn't what you believe your opinion? Why is your opinion irrelevant to my question?

@Zarutaku Whether I believe in realism or relativism morals was irrelevant since I only apply morals on humans on not animals. That opinion was in fact irrelevant to your question.

Morals are rules of behavior, do only humans have rules of behavior, but other animals don't?

@Zarutaku If animals have no moral understanding of what is good or evil, then whatever rules of behavior they may have can't be seen as a form of morality.

@fleurbleue Moral or immoral is to follow or break a rule of behavior. Do other animals have no understanding of their rules?

@Zarutaku They probably effectively have no deep understanding of their own rules.

@fleurbleue That could be the case, but don't they necessarily need to understand when they follow or break a rule?