Post time skip One Piece is a clearly better experience than pre time skip (it doesn't mean the actual arcs are better)
| Ok, I really have to explain this one so that people understand what I mean. First of all, One Piece is a story that (as basically every other story ever) inherently gains depth the longer it is, but the important point here is that especifically because of the way Oda writes it this statement is much, much more true for OP than for any other piece of media. The insane amount of worldbuilding wordbuilding, lore, foreshadowing, backstories and more aspects keeps piling up to the point where the story is so complex now when compared to any pre time skip arc that not only do I think the actual writing of arcs like Wano and Egghead is much more impressive than the writing of Enies Lobby or Marineford (for example) but that as good as any pre time skip arc is the overall experience you get post time skip, and especially post Zou, is unrivaled by any other piece of media ever created even if individually some of the earlier arcs of the show could be argued to be better executed narratively speaking. To summarize everything I've said, the basic idea is that even if you think that pre time skip arcs are better executed (which I don't necessarly think is the case, but I will get to that later) the whole post time skip experience is simply a bigger, more unique and more impressive experience overall. Lets put as an example the 4 arcs that I believe to be the best arcs in the enire anime/manga (in no specific order): Wano, Marineford, Egghead and Sabaody Archipelago (this is not a forum to discuss my personal rankings, as that is deeply subjective, but if anyone still want to discuss that then go ahead I guess). Marineford and Sabaody are some of the best experiences I've ever had watching anime, both having flawless execution, but (and this is not to denigrate these arcs, but to commend Oda for the depth OP has managed to achieve in later arcs) when compared with the complexity of arcs like Wano and Egghead the actual content of the arcs feels like a downgrade for lack of a better word. Marineford is an amazing arc, but it is quite literally just an all out brawl with a couple of incredible emotional gut punches at the end of it. Does the insane build up (with Shanks, Whitebeard, Ace, Blackbeard, etc.) and amazing writing from Oda made the arc practically flawless? Yes, it did. Compare that to the content of Wano or Egghead for example. Wano doesn't only have the usual amazing political aspects of most OP arcs, but it has so many interconnected story lines and character arcs (Oden's, Kaido's and Orochi's interconnected backstory, expansion on Roger's journey and the mysteries of the actual One Piece treasure, insane expansion on Void Century information and the implications that has for Minks, the Wano country, the D people, Joyboy and the 20 kingdoms war, etc., Toki's character that literally has traveled through centuries, Luffy's connections to Nika and Joyboy, every piece of foreshadowing from 20 years ago paying off and much more content) that I just believe the overall experience can't really be compared to pre time skip arcs. The same can be said about Egghead and any arc that comes after it. The story nowadays has so many interconnected threads and connections that I can't really understand how can pre time skip be talked about sometimes as this mythical thing that is miles better than post time skip (I know this is not 100% of OP fans, but whatever). |
"Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness"  - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0)    |
| If you think One Piece is unique or creative, you deserve to be the person you are. The story is as much a thoughtfully crafted "adventure" as a knock-off gas station mad libs book; your premise is invalid. I'd invite you to try watching more anime, but I don't think that would be to the benefit of the fandom. Go back to consuming Marvelslop outside the sight of your betters. |
Reply to Donquixotefan
I read a wall of text πβοΈ
| @Donquixotefan Have you actually read all of that? |
| I can't say, pre-time skip was too long ago. |
*kappa* |
| i haven't made it that far |
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_dreamzz said: >Says post timeskip is better than pre-timeskip, but that it “doesnt necessarily mean the arcs are better” (classic young era/generation where youre too fucking scared, for some reason, of straight up voicing your opinion so any kind criticism/take you have on something, yall ALWAYS play the fence: Just because [X], doesnt meant that [Y]. Always follows that SAME EXACT mentality, pussies >>Proceeds to talk about how post timeskip arcs are better Nothing burger with a side of scared to state your piece salad "Any post-timeskip arc is unrivaled by any other piece of media created" I guess this says it all. |
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| not reading all that but already disagreeing. pre timeskip was just better in every aspect |
| Wano and Egghead better than Marineford and Enies Lobby is wild. Oda’s writing was much better pre-timeskip because he knew how to tell the story in a more focused way. Now he just drags things out, circling the same plot points with an important moment every once in a while. Marineford, for example, has 30 incredible episodes. I've watched it three times and never get tired of it. The build-up, the worldbuilding, the major character moments and deaths, it's an amazing arc. Wano, on the other hand, has 200 episodes. Aside from Oden’s backstory and a few standout scenes, it felt like endless filler to me. I think that it’s the worst arc I’ve ever watched. I wish I had just watched a YouTube summary instead of wasting so much time. |
| So it's better...but the arcs ARENT better? π
Im not even arguing your points, because it's just about personal preferences, but I think saying it like this sounds really weird and...wrong. |
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Reply to Liamu
DarkSageRK said:
If you think One Piece is unique or creative, you deserve to be the person you are. The story is as much a thoughtfully crafted "adventure" as a knock-off gas station mad libs book; your premise is invalid.
I'd invite you to try watching more anime, but I don't think that would be to the benefit of the fandom. Go back to consuming Marvelslop outside the sight of your betters.
If you think One Piece is unique or creative, you deserve to be the person you are. The story is as much a thoughtfully crafted "adventure" as a knock-off gas station mad libs book; your premise is invalid.
I'd invite you to try watching more anime, but I don't think that would be to the benefit of the fandom. Go back to consuming Marvelslop outside the sight of your betters.
Gotta love how all the One Piece fans are at peace with themselves... at least enough to ignore this blatantly obvious rage bait.
Unfortunately, I haven't finished One Piece, soo
How the fuck have you watched over 7 thousand Animes and have a mean score below 4? Your list is so long that MAL doesn't even let me look at it π (I was gonna judge it so bad). You've spent almost a year straight watching anime (that's assuming the list is real and assuming you didn't watch it sped up. if you did, you're fake muhaha). And how do you only have 5 favorite characters if you've seen that many shows? I could probably pick 5 favorite characters out of Mushoku Tensei alone if I had enough space (Eris best girl though).
Anyways, I'm just doing this because I'm bored and surprised that nobody reacted to your message yet (at least not that I saw). I respect you for saying your opinion, and I haven't seen enough One Piece to judge anyways π
peace out
| @Liamu Check out every account that posted here apart from mine. Do you think these people have the mental capabilities to understand any point I made, let alone refute it? One Piece fans are barely distinguishable from ChatGPT when it's set to "paste-eating incel mode". As for my account, it's real, but I also joined in 2008 - I'm 73 years old. If you want to judge, there is a section on the left when you go to someone else's profile, titled "Affinity to You". You'll notice the "XXX anime shared" is a hyperlink... click that and you'll be able to compare scores side-by-side. |
Reply to Liamu
DarkSageRK said:
If you think One Piece is unique or creative, you deserve to be the person you are. The story is as much a thoughtfully crafted "adventure" as a knock-off gas station mad libs book; your premise is invalid.
I'd invite you to try watching more anime, but I don't think that would be to the benefit of the fandom. Go back to consuming Marvelslop outside the sight of your betters.
If you think One Piece is unique or creative, you deserve to be the person you are. The story is as much a thoughtfully crafted "adventure" as a knock-off gas station mad libs book; your premise is invalid.
I'd invite you to try watching more anime, but I don't think that would be to the benefit of the fandom. Go back to consuming Marvelslop outside the sight of your betters.
Gotta love how all the One Piece fans are at peace with themselves... at least enough to ignore this blatantly obvious rage bait.
Unfortunately, I haven't finished One Piece, soo
How the fuck have you watched over 7 thousand Animes and have a mean score below 4? Your list is so long that MAL doesn't even let me look at it π (I was gonna judge it so bad). You've spent almost a year straight watching anime (that's assuming the list is real and assuming you didn't watch it sped up. if you did, you're fake muhaha). And how do you only have 5 favorite characters if you've seen that many shows? I could probably pick 5 favorite characters out of Mushoku Tensei alone if I had enough space (Eris best girl though).
Anyways, I'm just doing this because I'm bored and surprised that nobody reacted to your message yet (at least not that I saw). I respect you for saying your opinion, and I haven't seen enough One Piece to judge anyways π
peace out
| @Liamu It seems the forum filled with ragebaiters and people that don't actually have the decency to read what I actually wrote XD. Mushoku Tensei is peak tho, really waiting for that 3rd season. You should continue OP one day, I personally recommend using One Pace because the pacing is completely broken, but you can watch it however you wish. |
"Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0) |
| I think pre time skip had a lot better direction. Post time skip arc feels overly bloated. Besides that, the older art definitely stood out. The time skip felt like it turned the series a bit too bright and goofy. Emotional impact has far decreased since then. |
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Reply to Yuu_lu06
DarkSageRK said:
@Liamu Check out every account that posted here apart from mine. Do you think these people have the mental capabilities to understand any point I made, let alone refute it? One Piece fans are barely distinguishable from ChatGPT when it's set to "paste-eating incel mode".
As for my account, it's real, but I also joined in 2008 - I'm 73 years old. If you want to judge, there is a section on the left when you go to someone else's profile, titled "Affinity to You". You'll notice the "XXX anime shared" is a hyperlink... click that and you'll be able to compare scores side-by-side.
@Liamu Check out every account that posted here apart from mine. Do you think these people have the mental capabilities to understand any point I made, let alone refute it? One Piece fans are barely distinguishable from ChatGPT when it's set to "paste-eating incel mode".
As for my account, it's real, but I also joined in 2008 - I'm 73 years old. If you want to judge, there is a section on the left when you go to someone else's profile, titled "Affinity to You". You'll notice the "XXX anime shared" is a hyperlink... click that and you'll be able to compare scores side-by-side.
it's crazy to think this much that your opinions are superior. I hope you're just a troll because If not that would just be sad for real
| @Yuu_lu06 What's wrong with a little pride? As Monkey D. Luffy always says, "I am the Pirate King, believe it!" Why is it okay for Monkey to be King of the Pirates, but not okay for me to be King of the MyAnimeList? |
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