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Dec 2, 2024 12:25 PM
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Why is this not getting the hype it deserves! Its so freaking good!
Dec 2, 2024 12:43 PM
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The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it
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Ben10ison said:
Why is this not getting the hype it deserves! Its so freaking good!

Because of the controversies involving the author and that people are incapable of separating the author from its creation.
For me, I know what he did was wrong, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying this show. Like you said, the characters, plot. animation, everything is amazing. Don't blame the creation for what the creator did
Dec 2, 2024 1:38 PM
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Probably what the people above mentioned as well as it being a remake. Imo it’s a solid remake, I think it doesn’t quite live up to the original, especially in the tension and music departments, but it’s doing a really good job regardless. If it wasn’t a remake and didn’t have to suffer comparisons to the OG, then I think it’d be a bit more hyped up
Dec 2, 2024 4:46 PM
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If you're talking about the Rurouni Kenshin Franchise, then It's not underrated at all.
Dec 2, 2024 8:39 PM
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Is it underrated? It certainly wasn't as hyped, but I don't think I'd consider it underrated
Dec 2, 2024 9:25 PM
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MaxAkumax said:
Ben10ison said:
Why is this not getting the hype it deserves! Its so freaking good!

Because of the controversies involving the author and that people are incapable of separating the author from its creation.
For me, I know what he did was wrong, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying this show. Like you said, the characters, plot. animation, everything is amazing. Don't blame the creation for what the creator did

Based man, based. I love the anime and its part of my childhood, while i dont support at all what the author did and i find it disgusting, his work is great. And this season has fuckin TATSUYA KITANI ON ITS OPENINg i love it.
Dec 2, 2024 10:25 PM
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author and it's not as big as it used to be
Dec 2, 2024 11:06 PM
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Definitely the author stuff.
I’m a massive RK fan, I am still reading the new manga. Fortunately I have just separated the art from the artist and I have stopped contributing to the franchise financially.

I think it’s because I have a nostalgia for the series.
I own all the manga and anime too.
It’s a shame he did what he did tho,

it does sour things unfortunately understandably,
It’s quite messed.

Also season 1 wasn’t as good as season two…
So that might have something to do with retaining less viewers.
Dec 2, 2024 11:50 PM

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Because people these days are used to more fast paced shonen where something is happening every episode and the meta humour in it. Slow burns like RK with its slapstick comedy are not really in fashion in 2024. Had this remake happened some 10 years ago It could have been really popular. To begin with most of the people who are watching this remake are fans of the original to begin with.

Dec 3, 2024 12:20 AM
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Gantz-613 said:
Definitely the author stuff.
I’m a massive RK fan, I am still reading the new manga. Fortunately I have just separated the art from the artist and I have stopped contributing to the franchise financially.

I think it’s because I have a nostalgia for the series.
I own all the manga and anime too.
It’s a shame he did what he did tho,

it does sour things unfortunately understandably,
It’s quite messed.

Also season 1 wasn’t as good as season two…
So that might have something to do with retaining less viewers.

wtf happened with the author can you tell me
Dec 3, 2024 1:13 AM
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Is a dumbed down version for zoomer kids, with hideous art and soulless generic horrible music.
Dec 3, 2024 3:19 AM
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parkles06 said:
The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it

Putting it like that is a bit misleading, to say the least.
Dec 3, 2024 4:01 AM
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It's primarily substance and THEN style. That stuff no longer popular. It's not another "Mappa shounen project".
Plus it's on-going.
Dec 3, 2024 9:55 AM
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Dan_ALves said:
parkles06 said:
The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it

Putting it like that is a bit misleading, to say the least.

I know it is but remember that the stuff he did wasn’t considered bad in Japan for a long while

P.s I’m not saying what he did is ok it’s just a different culture so we shouldn’t judge them for that
Dec 3, 2024 12:27 PM
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parkles06 said:
The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it

Putting it like that is a bit misleading, to say the least.

I know it is but remember that the stuff he did wasn’t considered bad in Japan for a long while

P.s I’m not saying what he did is ok it’s just a different culture so we shouldn’t judge them for that
@parkles06 Well, I will. Japan also has the death penalty and I judge them for that.
You can say his work is great and at the same time say he is disgusting.
Both are true.
Dec 3, 2024 12:59 PM
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I agree with you 100%
Dec 3, 2024 5:07 PM
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There’s a few reasons why. Like mentioned above, the creator of Kenshin did some unforgivable things. Some individuals are unable to separate the creator from the art/anime which I can totally understand.

I also would point out that the marketing for this anime was very limited since the newer project is a low-budget project from what I’ve read. This, and the fact that the creator has done some unforgivable things can lead to less views and sales overall.

It’s also an older series, first aired in 1990’s and manga also being quite old as well making it even hard to push out to an audience that likes to read newer things.

All these things make it hard for this anime to hit big numbers. I personally love the series and it’s nice to hear that you enjoyed it too. I’m sure it will get more recognition once it’s fully done airing.
Dec 3, 2024 5:14 PM
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As for what the author has done in the past, I don't think it has affected the work so much as it has diminished its reputation.

However, since it is a remake, there are a certain number of people who like the old work before the remake, so I think the evaluation just doesn't go up much.

Dec 3, 2024 7:32 PM
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DemonkingAK said:
Gantz-613 said:
Definitely the author stuff.
I’m a massive RK fan, I am still reading the new manga. Fortunately I have just separated the art from the artist and I have stopped contributing to the franchise financially.

I think it’s because I have a nostalgia for the series.
I own all the manga and anime too.
It’s a shame he did what he did tho,

it does sour things unfortunately understandably,
It’s quite messed.

Also season 1 wasn’t as good as season two…
So that might have something to do with retaining less viewers.

wtf happened with the author can you tell me

He got caught with “corn” of young people, if you catch my drift dude
Dec 3, 2024 8:40 PM
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Ben10ison said:
Why is this not getting the hype it deserves! Its so freaking good!

original one wasn't underrated, just people stopped talking about that because of author.. this remake is underrated
Dec 3, 2024 8:42 PM

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the author likes little kids that's why
Dec 3, 2024 9:16 PM
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And people is still spreading the hatred. Last I was checking the IMDB rating. Everything was going good. 5 episode had more than 9 rating out of 10. And all episodes had more than 8 rating. Today while I checked some people surely has given 0 rating. Thats why rating today falls drastically.
Dec 6, 2024 12:54 AM
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Sometimes being popular isn't always good.
Dec 7, 2024 10:57 AM
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Ranma 1/2 (2024) is in the same boat. Only 85k members after 10 episodes. The first season of Rurouni Kenshin (2023) had 87k members after 10 episodes. People just don't know that these 2 remakes exist. Spice and Wolf (2024) seems to be much more popular than these 2 shows. Despite the fact that Ranma 1/2 is one of the first anime/manga that got popular in the West. Even though Dragon Ball predates Ranma 1/2, Ranma 1/2 became popular in the West before Dragon Ball did.

Also, a lot of people who've never watched the 1996 version (or read the manga) seem to be enjoying the remake. It's mostly just people who've already seen the 1996 version that don't like this version, even though it's closer to the manga and the mangaka is directly involved with the making of this remake. There aren't many things wrong with this adaptation, since the pacing is fine and it's not a slideshow, unlike the Shaman King (2021) remake which is rushed and constantly uses still frames.

Also, the Dandadan manga got an S-tier anime adaptation. Rurouni Kenshin remake got a B-tier anime adaptation (the original version is B-tier too though, but I guess it's more stylish). No sakuga in RK. If Wit Studio or MAPPA adapted this instead, it could've been way better, but those studios are on a whole other level compared to Lidenfilms and other studios on par with Lidenfilms. A mangaka has to be very lucky to have their work be adapted by a top-tier studio. At least this seems to be a better adaptation than Helck's anime adaptation. Studio Satelight anime adaptations seem to be a tier below Lidenfilms adaptations.

And then there's the fact that most people like the flashback of Kenshin in his killing days in the Jinchu arc more than anything else in the story. The flashback alone is probably why the manga ranks so high on MAL.
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It's a remake of an older anime that people already watched, nowadays even newer brand anime are very unpopular anyway, at least this still got traction due to being already one of the long popular shonen, the people here talking about the author is complete nonsense, the majority have no idea who the author is, let alone any controversies about that person
Dec 7, 2024 11:41 AM

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The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it
@parkles06 Oh please. Nobody even knows who the author is. This is entirely a marketing problem.
Dec 12, 2024 11:48 AM
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Characters design ❌️ music ❌️
These are horrible in this remake compare to old version
And soulless
Dec 12, 2024 11:26 PM

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Author controversy aside, I think it's an…okay adaptation, but sadly not much more. I feel it accomplishes what it should, but is not particularly memorable in any department (animation, pacing, dramatic moments, fight scenes, OST, etc). I say this as a Kenshin fan for over 20 years. The first anime series had its flaws, especially at the beginning and the filler arcs afterwards, but the Kyoto arc was simply masterful. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying this adaptation, but I was hoping for a work that would elevate the greatness of the manga and not simply animate the source material and include new stories from time to time. There's still a little way to go before they get to the best of the arc, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high. So yes, for what a series like RK deserved, it seems to me a somewhat bland adaptation; it's not bad, but not something spectacular that warrants wider exposure, and with so many more eye-catching series airing this season, I can understand why it's not popular.
Dec 13, 2024 1:22 AM
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Author controversy aside, I think it's an…okay adaptation, but sadly not much more. I feel it accomplishes what it should, but is not particularly memorable in any department (animation, pacing, dramatic moments, fight scenes, OST, etc). I say this as a Kenshin fan for over 20 years. The first anime series had its flaws, especially at the beginning and the filler arcs afterwards, but the Kyoto arc was simply masterful. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying this adaptation, but I was hoping for a work that would elevate the greatness of the manga and not simply animate the source material and include new stories from time to time. There's still a little way to go before they get to the best of the arc, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high. So yes, for what a series like RK deserved, it seems to me a somewhat bland adaptation; it's not bad, but not something spectacular that warrants wider exposure, and with so many more eye-catching series airing this season, I can understand why it's not popular.
@ren_moon trust me you cant expect Lindenfilms to do something like ufotable mappa do. Even this type of animation we would get, I had not believe this earlier. But they are doing pretty good job.
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It's a remake of an older anime that people already watched, nowadays even newer brand anime are very unpopular anyway, at least this still got traction due to being already one of the long popular shonen, the people here talking about the author is complete nonsense, the majority have no idea who the author is, let alone any controversies about that person
@Elfezen this is totally wrong. I have talked with my foreign friends. They told me that the author's bad reputation drastically make impact on this anime
Dec 13, 2024 7:14 AM
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People prefer the version that is 45% filler and incomplete.
Dec 13, 2024 1:10 PM
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Ben10ison said:
Why is this not getting the hype it deserves! Its so freaking good!

I completely agree. I think the author’s actions have a lot to do with it. Also the animation was not as good in season 1 so some people might have dropped it. But those people are missing out. It’s been a while since I watched the original anime but I still love this
Dec 13, 2024 6:47 PM
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The author did some things so the normies don’t want to watch it
@parkles06 It is completely understandable why most people don't want to watch this. What the author did was a heinous crime. This is not about being " a normie" or "a tourist."
Dec 14, 2024 9:01 AM

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Happens with a lot of older series that get a remake.
The pacing was good back in the days, but it's different now. It's really really slow if you compare to hit shows that are popular now.
Plus there have been plenty of samurai series since the first anime aired. It got more competition and many wouldn't tune in to Kenshin based on the synopsis.
Back in the days we had like what? 30 mangas and anime that was officially translated? This was one of them.

Author controversy? I'm a Kenshin fan and I have no clue who wrote the manga. Doubt it has anything to do with it, people don't research an author and then decide if they are interested in their work.
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So just for context the Rurouni Kenshin manga is one of my all time favorites and I absolutely love the original series. It is literally one of the main reasons I fell in love with anime. I'll also quibble a bit. Your title says it's "underrated" which I'd disagree with. It's just under an 8 average rating which is very good, but your in thread text says it's not getting the hype it deserves which I guess you could say because I rarely see this getting mentioned, but I feel there are reasons.

I was extremely excited when I heard about the remake. Couldn't wait to see Kenshin with modern anime techniques, but I was really let down by the first season. I was hoping for more detailed fight scenes. Too often in the original you just get jump cuts, stills, simple actions. I thought we'd be getting some high quality, detailed fights and honestly they are just still too basic. Also the music. Compared to the original it's just very generic and the Kenshin music was so freaking good, from the openings to action scenes.

Someone mentioned before "soulless" and honestly I think that hits the nail on the head. Sure this is Kenshin, but it feels like just a run of the mill show. There are a few things I can point to, but the absolute biggest is from probably the two most key scenes from season one. Kenshin's fight with Saito when he tests him to see if he's ready to go to Kyoto and Kenshin saying goodbye to Karou before he leaves. They are just very poorly done. Go back and watch how the original does them, the mood, lighting, emotion, music. They are amazing and in this remake they don't stand out in anyway. I think that's where the soulless feel comes in. The key moments, the scenes that are meant to really mean something are just meh.

Not to mention a remake of a nearly 25 year old series might not be the most exciting. And while I try to separate art from artist, the author of this show being a scumbag sticks in my mind. And while I'm still going to consume anything Kenshin I can totally understand people who don't want any part of it now.
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because there are bunch of SJW'S who have a problem with the author of the manga and thats why they want to cancel the show. if you go on youtube you will see beraly anybody talk about this show and it makes no sense since its a very popular franchise that should be all over. its a vendetta against the author because he did a mistake and cancel culture work exactly like that
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IMO it’s not a remarkable anime if you don’t already love the original adaptation.

The background score and OPs are especially disappointing as well as how the animation quality doesn’t measure up to other action anime.

The original anime was well made for its time while this adaptation doesn’t compare to other popular anime of today.

As I’ve enjoyed the original anime, for me this adaption was like re watching RK in HD so it was nice. But it’s understandable that someone new would not really be impressed with this anime.
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because there are bunch of SJW'S who have a problem with the author of the manga and thats why they want to cancel the show. if you go on youtube you will see beraly anybody talk about this show and it makes no sense since its a very popular franchise that should be all over. its a vendetta against the author because he did a mistake and cancel culture work exactly like that

Watching and owning child corn is not a “mistake”…the way people here are labeling this heinous crime as something just “SJW” will be offended over is certainly a choice.

He watched little children have sex. Real children. Miss me with the SJW bull.
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because there are bunch of SJW'S who have a problem with the author of the manga and thats why they want to cancel the show. if you go on youtube you will see beraly anybody talk about this show and it makes no sense since its a very popular franchise that should be all over. its a vendetta against the author because he did a mistake and cancel culture work exactly like that

Watching and owning child corn is not a “mistake”…the way people here are labeling this heinous crime as something just “SJW” will be offended over is certainly a choice.

He watched little children have sex. Real children. Miss me with the SJW bull.
@SFirebolt dont care. i care about the show not the author of the manga, he can go * himeself.
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