| Now that we have seen the traumatic backstory of Izumo a lot of people have started to feel sorry for her but I still don't have any soft corner for her!!! In fact I hate her for the fact that she got Maria (the nice illuminati lady who wanted to save Izumo and her sister) killed brutally, if only she had co-operated with her they could have escaped unscathed but but I wOnT rElY oN aNyOne. Hate her to the core and I'm loving how Shima is treating her because she deserves worse.. |
adesh17 said: autumn_sky96 said: This quote is so unserious that I don't even know what to say to that. As I mentioned before - feel whatever you want towards her, but consider all factors and circumstances at work here. That's all! ok the main reason I hate her because she has a weird bitch type character design lol bro I hate her too but that's literally the most illogical reason to hate a character ever, she has an annoying personality yes but that's got nothing to do with her character design lol.. |
autumn_sky96 said: Haklifesaver said: Now that we have seen the traumatic backstory of Izumo a lot of people have started to feel sorry for her but I still don't have any soft corner for her!!! In fact I hate her for the fact that she got Maria (the nice illuminati lady who wanted to save Izumo and her sister) killed brutally, if only she had co-operated with her they could have escaped unscathed but but I wOnT rElY oN aNyOne. Hate her to the core and I'm loving how Shima is treating her because she deserves worse.. B-but she was just a little kid in there π Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to change your opinion on her, everyone is free to hate or like whatever characters they want, but saying 'she got that woman killed, because she didnt fulfill her order' is a bit weird considering how young Izumo was. xnx She was full of fear and adrenaline and was only thinking about rescuing her family, I really don't think she considered in that moment how extreme the consequences of her leaving that lab room could be. :s I'm just wondering if she even felt sad for Maria when she was being killed right in front of her, it's the lack of guilt or her lack of emotion towards Maria's death that ticks me off because at that moment she did in fact know that Maria only wanted good for the two sisters... |
| Guess I'm the only one whose fav char is Izumo alongside Shura. Now that we have seen Izumo's backstory, it makes a lot of sense why she is always acting the way she is. I guess it's understandable why people wouldn't like her but being the most hated character? Doubt it. |
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I never hated or disliked Izumo, even before knowing her backstory. I had a feeling she was one of those characters who appeared standoffish but in reality cares more about people than others realize. I didn't think she had a terrible backstory to explain that, but now knowing that she does, I have grown to like her even more.
But I don't think she's the most hated character. Not really. I think that annoying doctor guy is on the top of that list and perhaps even Shima to some extent...
But I don't think she's the most hated character. Not really. I think that annoying doctor guy is on the top of that list and perhaps even Shima to some extent...
| @Kirilynx Agreed with everything you said. And I think more people dislike Shiemi than Izumo? Kinda sad though because I think both are likable characters for different reasons. |
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| When your emotions and fear takes over your mind the logic will just became an illusion. She gets betrayed by the illuminati, wtf are you expecting her to do man i mean if I'm on the same position i will do the same thing. Her mother becomes an fox and then captured by the illuminati and she doesn't even know where is her Little sister now and after seeing her back story and her pov if you are still hating her then bro you don't even have a brain. And remember one thing when rin's powers get exposed in that time where everyone sees her as a satan son, Izumo is the only one who sees him as Rin Okumura a normal human who has demonic power's and nothing else. |
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@TheSekiryuutei bro she is the girl of the show, moreover your perception would change if you read the manga , she is just innocent
| @loveunique like TheSekiryuutei, i really dislike shiemi. only difference i actually read the manga. through, where i am at in the manga, i like her over yuki atm. |
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Haklifesaver said:
I'm just wondering if she even felt sad for Maria when she was being killed right in front of her, it's the lack of guilt or her lack of emotion towards Maria's death that ticks me off because at that moment she did in fact know that Maria only wanted good for the two sisters...
autumn_sky96 said:
B-but she was just a little kid in there π
Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to change your opinion on her, everyone is free to hate or like whatever characters they want, but saying 'she got that woman killed, because she didnt fulfill her order' is a bit weird considering how young Izumo was. xnx
She was full of fear and adrenaline and was only thinking about rescuing her family, I really don't think she considered in that moment how extreme the consequences of her leaving that lab room could be. :s
B-but she was just a little kid in there π
Like, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to change your opinion on her, everyone is free to hate or like whatever characters they want, but saying 'she got that woman killed, because she didnt fulfill her order' is a bit weird considering how young Izumo was. xnx
She was full of fear and adrenaline and was only thinking about rescuing her family, I really don't think she considered in that moment how extreme the consequences of her leaving that lab room could be. :s
I'm just wondering if she even felt sad for Maria when she was being killed right in front of her, it's the lack of guilt or her lack of emotion towards Maria's death that ticks me off because at that moment she did in fact know that Maria only wanted good for the two sisters...
Personally I don't really see how her guilt could be relevant in the whole context of the situation, but that's me I guess.
Also how someone already mentioned - I don't think it would make much difference if she remained in the room. Gedoin for sure already had tabs on that woman and planned to inject her with that thing sooner or later. I don't think there is a need to know if a child below 10 years old felt any guilt in such mentally straining situation. xnx
| @autumn_sky96 nah bro "below 10 years old"???? naaaah broooo lmao, she's 16 are you making it look worse to support the claim that she's too young?? nah be real she might be 16 but like hell she isn't mentally semi-mature at the very least, she's young in irl standanders but not in anime though this is where you slipped up, age in anime is irrelevant in most cases; mental age IS though, she's not getting married here lol, she's just thinking rationally, she's old enough to know what's needed already, and she was written as an insufferable selfish oversensitive brat, i don't blame her in this case since she's not real, she was just written that way, kinda like Jessica Rabbit's quote "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way.". |
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@MitsukiAkashi Yea i hate yukio so much rin just keeps suffering. my cutie boy needs some help
| @loveunique are we talking romance at last or should i leave this untouched until i do some uncovering myself? |
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Kirito_online said:
@autumn_sky96 nah bro "below 10 years old"???? naaaah broooo lmao, she's 16 are you making it look worse to support the claim that she's too young?? nah be real she might be 16 but like hell she isn't mentally semi-mature at the very least, she's young in irl standanders but not in anime though this is where you slipped up, age in anime is irrelevant in most cases; mental age IS though, she's not getting married here lol, she's just thinking rationally, she's old enough to know what's needed already, and she was written as an insufferable selfish oversensitive brat, i don't blame her in this case since she's not real, she was just written that way, kinda like Jessica Rabbit's quote "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way.".
@autumn_sky96 nah bro "below 10 years old"???? naaaah broooo lmao, she's 16 are you making it look worse to support the claim that she's too young?? nah be real she might be 16 but like hell she isn't mentally semi-mature at the very least, she's young in irl standanders but not in anime though this is where you slipped up, age in anime is irrelevant in most cases; mental age IS though, she's not getting married here lol, she's just thinking rationally, she's old enough to know what's needed already, and she was written as an insufferable selfish oversensitive brat, i don't blame her in this case since she's not real, she was just written that way, kinda like Jessica Rabbit's quote "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way.".
Bro, what the hell are you talking about?? Do you even know the context we were refering to????? Cuz you just proved you don't. Don't yap nonsense if you have no idea what's being talked about. xnx
| @autumn_sky96 so you're going to deflect instead of addressing the mistake you wrote?? since you're so lost in my reply here's this: she is old enough to understand the meaning of seeing someone die, and she is empathetic enough to care about her little sister so that puts the possibility of her being Apathetic on the side, Shima betraying his friends proved that she cares about their whole friendship regardless of the facade she put on, Maria might have deceived her at first but it was never her intention to get them killed that's why she rectified her mistake by putting Tsukumo for adoption to save her and help Izumo escape, but Izumo was scarred by the betrayal so seeing Maria get killed should have proved Maria was a good person and her attempt was honest and from a place of good, not feeling remorse for Maria's death regardless of her sealed fate is cold and inhumane, she's old enough in japanese standards and she lived enough in life to create an understanding and empathetic persona but she chose to be a brat because of the trauma even though she had very supportive friends and she knows they'll risk it all for her sake yet she chooses PTSD and selfishness instead, i know the context, but you seem so hung up on the fact she's young and how irrelevant it is to be empathetic while forgetting she's supposed to be one of the good guys. |
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@Kirito_online wym didnt get you but romance wise the progression is damn slow in the manga i dont even know what kato is doing with the ships but she is female and i trust her process , females are the one to start and ones to dump!
| @loveunique i don't think her being a woman has anything effect on the romance aspect in her work, since authors research the things they want to implement in their work, and their life experiences give them a good amount of inspiration to create romantic or dramatic enough scenarios at a good enough quality, maybe a woman is slightly better at creating male characters since they know what they want and hate about a male character, and creating female character is much easier since she knows women more being one herself but how far will she bring characters to meet the male's favor in them is up to debate since men like all kind of women unlike women, bottom line, she can create romantic scenes easily but she seems to not want to make it a thing that can grow, so interest and like is all i saw so far, no actual love happening at least as far as i can tell. |
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Kirito_online said:
@autumn_sky96 so you're going to deflect instead of addressing the mistake you wrote?? since you're so lost in my reply here's this: she is old enough to understand the meaning of seeing someone die, and she is empathetic enough to care about her little sister so that puts the possibility of her being Apathetic on the side, Shima betraying his friends proved that she cares about their whole friendship regardless of the facade she put on, Maria might have deceived her at first but it was never her intention to get them killed that's why she rectified her mistake by putting Tsukumo for adoption to save her and help Izumo escape, but Izumo was scarred by the betrayal so seeing Maria get killed should have proved Maria was a good person and her attempt was honest and from a place of good, not feeling remorse for Maria's death regardless of her sealed fate is cold and inhumane, she's old enough in japanese standards and she lived enough in life to create an understanding and empathetic persona but she chose to be a brat because of the trauma even though she had very supportive friends and she knows they'll risk it all for her sake yet she chooses PTSD and selfishness instead, i know the context, but you seem so hung up on the fact she's young and how irrelevant it is to be empathetic while forgetting she's supposed to be one of the good guys.
@autumn_sky96 so you're going to deflect instead of addressing the mistake you wrote?? since you're so lost in my reply here's this: she is old enough to understand the meaning of seeing someone die, and she is empathetic enough to care about her little sister so that puts the possibility of her being Apathetic on the side, Shima betraying his friends proved that she cares about their whole friendship regardless of the facade she put on, Maria might have deceived her at first but it was never her intention to get them killed that's why she rectified her mistake by putting Tsukumo for adoption to save her and help Izumo escape, but Izumo was scarred by the betrayal so seeing Maria get killed should have proved Maria was a good person and her attempt was honest and from a place of good, not feeling remorse for Maria's death regardless of her sealed fate is cold and inhumane, she's old enough in japanese standards and she lived enough in life to create an understanding and empathetic persona but she chose to be a brat because of the trauma even though she had very supportive friends and she knows they'll risk it all for her sake yet she chooses PTSD and selfishness instead, i know the context, but you seem so hung up on the fact she's young and how irrelevant it is to be empathetic while forgetting she's supposed to be one of the good guys.
?????????? bro lost some marbles wtf
the thing with tsukumo and izumo being taken and maria dying was IN THE PAST. SHE WAS NOT SIXTEEN THEN. SHE WAS WAY YOUNGER, BECAUSE IT WAS FEW YEARS BEFORE WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW. I will not elaborate any further if you are unable to grasp concept of a flashback. You just want to argue for the sake of arguing for some reason.
And for your information: it's not like anyone has 100% control of their ptsd and trauma all the damn time. Stop throwing around terms you have no understanding of.
| @autumn_sky96 bruh i wasn't even talking about the past Izumo can you even read lmao, everything i mentioned was about the present, keep deflecting i guess, and i'll even quote you autumn_sky96 said: cuz this is you rn, i gave my argument, you never gave a counter so far, deflecting is all i saw.You just want to argue for the sake of arguing for some reason. |
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@Kirito_online well lets see what happens btw im speculating that kato would help us discover sheimei's actually nephilim connection inbetween the current arc like she did with osceola and lewin in latest chapter.
| @loveunique i forgot to say i'm anime only, good thing i didn't understand this spoiler at all phew... |
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Kirito_online said:
@autumn_sky96 bruh i wasn't even talking about the past Izumo can you even read lmao, everything i mentioned was about the present, keep deflecting i guess, and i'll even quote you
@autumn_sky96 bruh i wasn't even talking about the past Izumo can you even read lmao, everything i mentioned was about the present, keep deflecting i guess, and i'll even quote you
autumn_sky96 said:
You just want to argue for the sake of arguing for some reason.
cuz this is you rn, i gave my argument, you never gave a counter so far, deflecting is all i saw.You just want to argue for the sake of arguing for some reason.
why even comment on what i was saying around a month ago then if I was talking about the past Izumo at this time???
go talk with someone else if you wanna go wild about the current one and don't butt into other people's conversations that were about completely different topic from what you seem to be thinking about.
Get out of my mentions.
| @autumn_sky96 this is a discussion thread buddy, you don't make the rules, and i'll reply to any comment i want, and even if your comment was a month ago or whatever, the reply was for that exact comment, so you could either reply to what i said elaborately like a normal person in a thread would, or you could keep doing whatever you're doing rn, which is hilarious that you couldn't even counter my argument, and chose to make it sound like i hijacked your DMs lmao. |
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Kirito_online said:
@autumn_sky96 this is a discussion thread buddy, you don't make the rules, and i'll reply to any comment i want, and even if your comment was a month ago or whatever, the reply was for that exact comment, so you could either reply to what i said elaborately like a normal person in a thread would, or you could keep doing whatever you're doing rn, which is hilarious that you couldn't even counter my argument, and chose to make it sound like i hijacked your DMs lmao.
@autumn_sky96 this is a discussion thread buddy, you don't make the rules, and i'll reply to any comment i want, and even if your comment was a month ago or whatever, the reply was for that exact comment, so you could either reply to what i said elaborately like a normal person in a thread would, or you could keep doing whatever you're doing rn, which is hilarious that you couldn't even counter my argument, and chose to make it sound like i hijacked your DMs lmao.
how the hell am i supposed to respond to what you said if again - i was talking about PAST IZUMO and you started talking about CURRENT IZUMO???
I was talking about something else and you @-ed me talking about something entirely different, how is that a discussion that is supposed to make sense??
I literally don't understand what do you want from me.
@autumn_sky96 i seem to have mixed the scene of the flashback with the present abduction as a one timeline sequence tehe (it's from ep6 after all, foggy memory issue), i apologize, i'll leave it at that... |
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Kirito_online said: @autumn_sky96 i seem to have mixed the scene of the flashback with the present abduction as a one timeline sequence tehe (it's from ep6 after all, foggy memory issue), i apologize, i'll leave it at that... ππ OMG, that's what I was trying to clarify!!!! I'm glad we solved this mystery, let's shake on that and part in peace π€ |
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Kirito_online said:
@autumn_sky96 i seem to have mixed the scene of the flashback with the present abduction as a one timeline sequence tehe (it's from ep6 after all, foggy memory issue), i apologize, i'll leave it at that...
@autumn_sky96 i seem to have mixed the scene of the flashback with the present abduction as a one timeline sequence tehe (it's from ep6 after all, foggy memory issue), i apologize, i'll leave it at that...
ππ OMG, that's what I was trying to clarify!!!!
I'm glad we solved this mystery, let's shake on that and part in peace π€
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