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Firelam123 said: Does Faris remember her time with her father and Okabe at the end of the episode when the time lines changed? I wouldn't call it "remembering", but yeah, she has memories about it, deeply in her brain. But explaining this right now would be a spoiler. |
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| Tough decision for Okarin, the life of faris dad or mayuri |
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| SAVE MAYURIIIIIIIIIII Thank god Rumiho turned out to be such a good girl. |
| I believe this anime is gonna replace Ippo as one of my favorites yo,I feel it yo. This anime put you in situations yo where you're like yo WTF yo cuz that's her dad and you gotta understand where she's coming from but mayuri yo. It's hard what do you do? my man is seeing mayuri die every fucking minute yo Imagine seeing your loved ones die once is bad enough and my man is seeing her die over and over man. |
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KidLeaf said: So I thought Okarin was the only one who had the Reading Steiner Ability? Why does Faris remember both timelines now? Will this be explained later on in the series? Only Okabe has Reading Steiner. Reading Steiner means that you only remember to the previous worldline's events, and you can't remember the current one's. Faris had faint memories from the previous worldline, but she still remember to the current one. So this is a pretty different phenomenon than Reading Steiner. |
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| Faris best girl. I liked her alternate ending in Elite game. |
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| I assume the reason why Faris remembers will be explained later. Does anyone else think that the her kidnapping was a setup by SERN in order to get her father to sell the IBN? |
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| Another emotional episode, this time about Feyris (Rumiho). It added a lot of depth to her character. Now we know everything about what her D-mail's message was like and how it affected the time. I was quite surprised that Feyris was able to remember some stuff from the times before sending D-mail. I thought that only Okarin has that ability (with bonus in a form of not losing his memories at all and not needing to refresh them). Next episode is gonna be painful I think. Ruka will have to accept that she will return to be "him", I mean Rukako. |
guidodi said: In episode 9 Faris says her family owns most of the town, but here the father says he didn't have the money for the ramson just a few years ago... Can someone explain this? Thanks. The fact that you have a lot of properties doesn't mean you have infinite spare money. Also, there wasn't really any incident, since it was set up by Faris with the D-Mail, if you paid attention. So she knew what to said as a fee. |
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guidodi said: SheevPalpatine said: The fact that you have a lot of properties doesn't mean you have infinite spare money. Also, there wasn't really any incident, since it was set up by Faris with the D-Mail, if you paid attention. So she knew what to said as a fee. But the mail was sent to his father and it was a lie, who did he pay the ramson to?? I mean, it was a lie so he would just go home in the train and see Faris wasn't kidnapped and think it was a prank or something. I have to check this out, it was long ago when I last played the VN (and ages ago when I last seen the anime). But my argument about the money is still holds (owning a lot of things doesn't mean you have spare money all the time). Maybe she was truly kidnapped, and she just made his father to notice it in time. Or she wasn't, and her dad just sell the IBN to get money, then of course he didn't pay that money to anyone since Faris wasn't kidnapped. |
SciADV_ManiacFeb 6, 2021 3:06 AM
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Resus-2 said: SheevPalpatine said: Maybe she was truly kidnapped, and she just made his father to notice it in time. No dude, please stop, at this point it looks like you are justifing every single thing in Steins;Gate with an excuse. Look, I know you love Steins;Gate and you know I love it as well but you never see me inventing those type of excuses for it, if something is iffy or wrong about it then we need to be honest about it and don't invent excuses for it. SheevPalpatine said: Or she wasn't, and her dad just sell the IBN to get money, then of course he didn't pay that money to anyone since Faris wasn't kidnapped. I see that you updated the response, anyway, this one is better and makes more sense. I just find it weird that the father went along to sell the IBN without ensuring that Faris is actually kidnapped, I mean, going through all the trouble to sell the IBN at that price means that he was 100% sure that Faris was kidnapped. Still, while this is a better excuse it's still an excuse nonetheless. I think it's simply better to just assume it was a mistake from the creator and move along. We shouldn't be inventing excuses, the anime needed to explain all those things properly but at least we can agree that the anime is still amazing with these issues. Would you please let me to use my imagination? Thank you. |
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Resus-2 said: SheevPalpatine said: Would you please let me to use my imagination? Thank you. Let me think about it.......... well... alright... just because you said please. :) Jokes aside, nothing wrong in using your imagination I guess, it's just that it looks like excuses to other people. It is not an excuse. I'm just trying to answer a question. MAybe there is an answer in some side material which I didn't read, so I ask it on reddit and discord. |
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Resus-2 said: SheevPalpatine said: MAybe there is an answer in some side material which I didn't read, so I ask it on reddit and discord. That would be great, if there's an explanation to what happened in this episode I would love to hear it, it's one of those few things I always kept in my mind. Unfortunately, I found nothing :c |
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| Actually Reading Steiner isn't really explained at all in the VN, it is the only quirk in SciADV which isn't explained basically (in case if you don't know, S;G is just only a part of a larger interconnected visual novel series) S;G0 anime is meant to be watched after playing the VN, because it is a side material to it (and 0 is a side entry in the series, so obviously didn't get the same quality and care as a mainline entry like C;H S;G R;N and C;C - all VNs are phenomenal. Not their anime though) |
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xZabuzax said: SciADV_Maniac said: S;G0 anime is meant to be watched after playing the VN, because it is a side material to it (and 0 is a side entry in the series, so obviously didn't get the same quality and care as a mainline entry like C;H S;G R;N and C;C - all VNs are phenomenal. Not their anime though) The only phenomenal anime adaptation from the VN you mentioned is Steins;Gate though, the other ones are bad and Steins;Gate 0 is hit or miss, you either love that crap or hate it like I do. S;G anime is phenomenal as a standalone anime, but not good as replacement for the VN in the series - they basically cut everything which ties it into the series |
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| The message that Feyris sent back then was to save her dad from the plane crash.. Sadly she has to undo that in order to save Mayurii. We end up in the wordline where the IBN 5100 still hasn't been found and Feyris' dad is death and the city of cuteness is aliive. Interesting and confusing, Steins gate be fucking with my brain. But I don't mind. |
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| Poor Faris, I like her a bit more now |
| he jus pass on reading steiner?? |
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| @Resus-2 @guidodi Hi guys! You might remember that a controversial plotpoint was brought up by guidodi regarding the episode. This one: In episode 9 Faris says her family owns most of the town, but here the father says he didn't have the money for the ransom just a few years ago... Can someone explain this? Thanks. [...] But the mail was sent to his father and it was a lie, who did he pay the ramson to?? I mean, it was a lie so he would just go home in the train and see Faris wasn't kidnapped and think it was a prank or something. At that time I couldn't give a sensible explanation, but now I'm currently replaying the VN, and I'm at that part where this thing is brought up. I just copy paste it from the scriptfile: [34][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“It’s quite unusual for a man your age to know about the IBN 5100.”[%p] [35]He smiles when I bring up his hobby of collecting old PCs.[%p] [36][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I did have one. I gave it away, though.”[%p] [37][name]Rintaro[line]“You... gave it away?”[%p] [38][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Yes. I had a compelling reason.”[%p] [39]He glances at his daughter.[%p] [40]Faris keeps eating her meal silently.[%p] [41][name]Rintaro[line]“Did you donate it to Yanabayashi Shrine?”[%p] [42][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“To a shrine? No...”[%p] [43]No?[%p] [44]All the strength drains from my body. Were my efforts for nothing?[%p] [45][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I don’t think Hashida-san, who entrusted the IBN 5100 to me, could ever forgive me for what I did...”[%p] [46][name]Rintaro[line]“Hashida? As in Hashida Suzu?”[%p] [47]Faris’s dad nods.[%p] [48]Suzuha’s pseudonym. My pulse rises instantly upon hearing that name.[%p] [49]She did it. She found an IBN 5100.[%p] [50]She brought it to Akiba.[%p] [51]She completed her mission.[%p] [52]Tears well up in my eyes. I bite them back.[%p] [53][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“This is an old story... a story from before my company got as big as it is.”[%p] [54][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Rumiho was kidnapped. The kidnapper demanded an unthinkable ransom.”[%p] [55][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Maybe I should have mortgaged the company instead.”[%p] [56][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“But at that moment, someone appeared, like a godsend, offering a large sum of money to buy my IBN 5100.”[%p] [57][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I sold it, which gave me enough to prepare Rumiho’s ransom.”[%p] [58][name]Faris[line]“Let’s not talk about that, nya...”[%p] [59]For some reason, Faris’s face turns red with embarrassment.[%p] [60]If I had to say, her dad seems really happy to tell this story.[%p] [61]Not something you’d expect from a kidnapping story.[%p] [62][name]Rintaro[line]“So who was the buyer?”[%p] [63][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Hmm, a French businessman, I believe. I think I still have his contact information. Would you like it?”[%p] [64]I politely decline the offer.[%p] [65]There’s no way the IBN 5100 will arrive from France in time. And I doubt we could afford to pay for it anyway.[%p] [66]Plus, there’s a high possibility the buyer is related to SERN, or to the Rounders.[%p] [67]I clench my fist, then open it again.[%p] [68]Why won’t you return to me, IBN 5100!?[%p] And here, the scene ends. So, the answers guidodi seeks are the following: Q: In episode 9 Faris says her family owns most of the town, but here the father says he didn't have the money for the ransom just a few years ago... Can someone explain this? A: [53][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“This is an old story... a story from before my company got as big as it is.”[%p] - So he wasn't that rich then... Q: But the mail was sent to his father and it was a lie, who did he pay the ramson to?? I mean, it was a lie so he would just go home in the train and see Faris wasn't kidnapped and think it was a prank or something. A: He already sold the IBN when he realized that it was just a prank. He was about to tell this story when Faris stop him telling Okabe because of her embarassement, as you can see it from the script. I hope I offered both of you satisfying answer to this old problem lol |
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guidodi said: SciADV_Maniac said: @Resus-2 @guidodi Hi guys! You might remember that a controversial plotpoint was brought up by guidodi regarding the episode. This one: At that time I couldn't give a sensible explanation, but now I'm currently replaying the VN, and I'm at that part where this thing is brought up. I just copy paste it from the scriptfile: [34][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“It’s quite unusual for a man your age to know about the IBN 5100.”[%p] [35]He smiles when I bring up his hobby of collecting old PCs.[%p] [36][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I did have one. I gave it away, though.”[%p] [37][name]Rintaro[line]“You... gave it away?”[%p] [38][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Yes. I had a compelling reason.”[%p] [39]He glances at his daughter.[%p] [40]Faris keeps eating her meal silently.[%p] [41][name]Rintaro[line]“Did you donate it to Yanabayashi Shrine?”[%p] [42][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“To a shrine? No...”[%p] [43]No?[%p] [44]All the strength drains from my body. Were my efforts for nothing?[%p] [45][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I don’t think Hashida-san, who entrusted the IBN 5100 to me, could ever forgive me for what I did...”[%p] [46][name]Rintaro[line]“Hashida? As in Hashida Suzu?”[%p] [47]Faris’s dad nods.[%p] [48]Suzuha’s pseudonym. My pulse rises instantly upon hearing that name.[%p] [49]She did it. She found an IBN 5100.[%p] [50]She brought it to Akiba.[%p] [51]She completed her mission.[%p] [52]Tears well up in my eyes. I bite them back.[%p] [53][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“This is an old story... a story from before my company got as big as it is.”[%p] [54][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Rumiho was kidnapped. The kidnapper demanded an unthinkable ransom.”[%p] [55][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Maybe I should have mortgaged the company instead.”[%p] [56][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“But at that moment, someone appeared, like a godsend, offering a large sum of money to buy my IBN 5100.”[%p] [57][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“I sold it, which gave me enough to prepare Rumiho’s ransom.”[%p] [58][name]Faris[line]“Let’s not talk about that, nya...”[%p] [59]For some reason, Faris’s face turns red with embarrassment.[%p] [60]If I had to say, her dad seems really happy to tell this story.[%p] [61]Not something you’d expect from a kidnapping story.[%p] [62][name]Rintaro[line]“So who was the buyer?”[%p] [63][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“Hmm, a French businessman, I believe. I think I still have his contact information. Would you like it?”[%p] [64]I politely decline the offer.[%p] [65]There’s no way the IBN 5100 will arrive from France in time. And I doubt we could afford to pay for it anyway.[%p] [66]Plus, there’s a high possibility the buyer is related to SERN, or to the Rounders.[%p] [67]I clench my fist, then open it again.[%p] [68]Why won’t you return to me, IBN 5100!?[%p] And here, the scene ends. So, the answers guidodi seeks are the following: Q: In episode 9 Faris says her family owns most of the town, but here the father says he didn't have the money for the ransom just a few years ago... Can someone explain this? A: [53][name]Faris’s Dad[line]“This is an old story... a story from before my company got as big as it is.”[%p] - So he wasn't that rich then... Q: But the mail was sent to his father and it was a lie, who did he pay the ramson to?? I mean, it was a lie so he would just go home in the train and see Faris wasn't kidnapped and think it was a prank or something. A: He already sold the IBN when he realized that it was just a prank. He was about to tell this story when Faris stop him telling Okabe because of her embarassement, as you can see it from the script. I hope I offered both of you satisfying answer to this old problem lol Not really... Faris dad was on a trip and he was going to die in a plane crash, so Faris fakes her kidnap forcing his dad to rush back from his trip in a bullet train instead of the plane and saving his life. So he would come back home and see that Faris wasn't kidnaped and there wouldn't be any reason to sell the IBN and no one to pay the ramson to. So my question remains, why would her father still think Faris was kidnaped after coming home? It is not like he had the IBN in his hands during the trip and sold it minutes after recieving the kidnap message and before realizing it was all a lie. Is this explained in the VN? Did Faris hide somewhere for several days faking the kidnaping and thats the reason her dad didn't know it was a lie until some days have passed and he sold the IBN? Actually, it was her birthday that day. She was very upset without her dad & ran away from her house to make him worry. Kuroki, the butler, informed Faris's dad about her dissaperance & he immediately took the plane to come back & died. The dmail made him take the train. So, he came back safely, found Faris missing, got the opportunity to sell the IBN 5100 to a French Businessman. Then, Faris must have returned as she wasn't actually kidnapped. So, Yukitaka got free money for selling the IBN without needing to sell it & kind of got pranked. Sounds like a funny story to tell your daughter's friend as he was happy to tell the story to Okabe. As Okabe mentions, you don't expect that from a kidnapping story. Faris was also embarrassed & didn't wanted to share it. I think it checks out. |
False_MinoshiroAug 21, 2021 9:33 PM
| @SciADV_Maniac @guidodi Hey SciADV_Maniac, I appreciate you going through the VN to find the answer to this controversial plot point in the anime but like guidodi said, it still doesn't answer the question (well, it tries to answer it but I still find it weird and unsatisfying). I also doubt the IBN 5100 was with the father, that IBN should have been in his house, locked in a safe place and not with him at that moment but fine, let's assume the father actually had the IBN 5100 with him and he was planning in taking it to the plane with him, next he receives the fake kidnapping message and the next thing he do is go to a train and sell the IBN afterwards to a random guy he meets? he probably sold it in that same train but that's the weird part, he doesn't bother to message her or call her back to verify that she's actually kidnapped, he simply went along with it with 0 evidence of her kidnapping, if you really going to go through all that trouble and go all out like that in selling the IBN then at least verify that the message wasn't a prank, call the butler or a relative, was Faris alone at that time? I seriously doubt he will leave a child alone in the house while he goes away on a long trip, he needed to call a relative or whoever was in charge of Faris to verify that she's fine and dandy. But since I love Steins;Gate I will invent excuses for this part, here it goes: Maybe he tried to message her and call Faris back but since she was "mad" at him at that time she probably didn't answered the message nor picked up the phone, he also tried to message and call the butler or a relative in charge of Faris but couldn't communicate with them either because they were busy at that time and thus, he was in despair and wasn't thinking properly and sold the IBN to a random billionaire he saw in the train that happened to look for the IBN 5100 as well. Now he had the money and was preparing for the ransom but once he got home he realized it was all a prank. Now here's the kicker and the mistake from the anime: The anime clearly says that "Faris was kidnapped and that he sold the IBN 5100 and was able to pay the ransom money with it" so the question still remains, who did he pay the money to? where did the money went? there was no reason for him to pay that money since he went home and it was all fake, the anime made it seem like he actually paid the ransom with that money.  So in short, I can make excuses for the VN but not for the anime, this was clearly a mistake from the anime but still, this mistake is not enough to make me dislike Steins;Gate, this anime is still amazing with these mistakes. Edit: Actually, I can come up with another excuse or possible explanation for this issue, the anime made it seem like he actually "paid the ransom with that money" but the reality is that he didn't pay the ransom, since it was all fake he simply kept the money, he's just "lying" to Okabe, this is the key word here and the excuse (or explanation) that makes me put an end to this issue, he's LYING to Okabe by telling him that he paid the ransom money with it, the reason he's lying about it is because he feels embarrassed in telling the truth and the truth is, he got pranked. So there we have it, with that excuse I made I finally found an explanation with it, I rather not be inventing excuses for it though but I can finally put a rest to this issue so yeah, thanks for bringing this up lol. |
Resus-2Aug 21, 2021 10:37 PM
| @Resus-2 Read Nameless Monster's addition (above your answer), that's also a thing that Faris ran away from home (later I could copy that part too) So in the VN, there's no problem. Looks like the anime either made a mistake, or its official eng subs are incorrect (i know for a fact that it's incorrect at many times, not sure about this part though - i never heard this specific problem brought up before) Oh I didn't go through the VN just to find an answer. I did it because I wanted to replay it after I have beaten all the Science Adventure games recently. I just remembered that someone asked this question in the past I couldn't answer. Edit: As I promised, here it is: [65][name]Faris[line]“It was on my eighth birthday.”[%p] [66]Still clinging to me, Faris looks down and begins her story.[%p] [67][name]Faris[line]“I wanted Papa to take a break from work so he could spend time with me.”[%p] [68][name]Faris[line]“Papa’s company wasn’t as big back then, so he worked every day, from morning to night. I never got to see him.”[%p] [69][name]Faris[line]“The present I wanted most was for him to spend one whole day with me.”[%p] [70][name]Faris[line]“And Papa promised. He promised he’d spend the entire day with me, no matter what.”[%p] [71][name]Faris[line]“But...”[%p] [72][name]Faris[line]“Something came up, and he had to break his promise the day before.”[%p] [73][name]Faris[line]“I was so afraid that Papa didn’t really love me.”[%p] [74][name]Faris[line]“So on my birthday, I ran away from home. I wanted to make Papa worry.”[%p] [75]Faris pauses here for a time.[%p] [76]Then she looks up at me and continues with tears in her eyes.[%p] [77][name]Faris[line]“...The plane Papa was on made a bad landing.”[%p] [78][name]Faris[line]“Only one person died in the accident. Everyone else was unharmed.”[%p] [79]Don’t tell me...[%p] [80][name]Faris[line]“The one casualty... was Papa...”[%p] @guidodi might interested too. |
SciADV_ManiacAug 22, 2021 4:59 AM
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| i don’t like the whole excuse invention thing happening in the comments, it’s a bit irritating that certain details aren’t explained because then the entire plot falls apart. i do hope it is explained why feyris has regained some memory, or details in previous episodes like how the crew remembered the existence of the time machine without the utilization of the IBN. |
hik1komori said: i don’t like the whole excuse invention thing happening in the comments, it’s a bit irritating that certain details aren’t explained because then the entire plot falls apart. i do hope it is explained why feyris has regained some memory, or details in previous episodes like how the crew remembered the existence of the time machine without the utilization of the IBN. How the IBN comes to "remembering the time machine"? The IBN was not needed to invent the phonewave and wasn't needed to hack SERN either. I can't see how the "entire plot falls apart", can you elaborate? |
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| Oh god, Ruka is next aren't they... I'm so sorry Ruka. |
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prismheart said: What a hard decision for Feyris? I really like her character too. Thanks goodness for the moe though, I guess. God that era almost killed the anime industry |
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Lauriet said: Karasuchan said: I hate weak girls that are in a show solely for the stupid fanservice. Cat eared maids included. But lets be serious now, shall we. Feyris/Rumiho is strong-willed , independent ( she did a lot of things in 10 years, without her father's help) and considering the length of her skirt & her attitude clearly not fanservice material. How can anyone hate an interesting character like that ;) ? I think her attitude is purrfee--*shot* This episode wasn't nearly as depressing as last week's, but it was definitely there. It was really sad, but I'm happy Feyris got to retain her memories even after shifting WLs. Also, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not about the length of her skirt and her personality. Her skirt is actually longer than most fanservice ductates, and her personality is largely quirky, cat-like, and mouthy. The maid uniforms are obvious sex appeal, though there isn't any issue since steins;gate has had evry little in the way of fanservice. Anyways, I loved her imitation of Okabe. That was cute as hell, and she even pegged him. Huh???? Also cat ears and the mew mew shit get's really annoying really fast. |
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| God I want Feyris to be shot 8 times in the head so I never have to hear another nyan out of a grown woman's fucking mouth. |
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| the emotions and feels continue, the D-mail that undone stopping Suzuha only delayed SERN's attack. I feel so bad for Okabe, its so rough and traumatizing for him to see Mayrui die again in the beginning of this episode. Kurisu says there is a chance to save Mayuri if Okabe undoes all the d-mails that shifted the world line, specifically Ruka, Moeka, and Feyris' D-mails and the lotto-6 d-mail. This sounds reasonable, undo the d-mails and the meter goes up, but this won't be an easy task. This episode had some backstory with Feyris, she sent a d-mail to change the past so her father would stay alive. Really unfortunate that her 8 year old self said that she hated him and how he ended up in a crash... if there was only a way to send a d-mail to Feyris' 8 year old self to not be mean to her father on that day. I feel bad for Feyris for having to make that sacrifice. Up next, undoing Ruka's d-mail, which might be challenging. great and interesting episode, 5/5. |
| I don't think it was mentioned before but I thought it might've been related to her dad from how he just showed up all of a sudden. What I don't understand is how she remembered everything from previous timelines. Is she also special or can anyone else also just remember if you make them remember hard enough. |
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