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Jun 28, 2023 7:54 AM
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As the vast majority of you reading this post —Ghibli fans, I do strongly hope—, will be in tune with this hot affair: the upcoming release of the last feature film of the Studio Ghibli animation genius Hayao Miyazaki next July 14th (Kimitachi wa Dou Ikiru Ka?, How Do You Live?). Right, being realistic, this fact is sth which happens once in a blue moon, but there's another hint to underline about that, which makes it more unique itself: up to less than a month to the release of the movie in Japanese theaters we do know nothing about it, we have seen scarcely nothing about it. 

Hayao Miyazaki is already 82 years old, what is not a walk in the park concretly. Althought he's attempted to retire from cinema production in numerous times, he unavoidably gets involved in other production after other. The key: his next work  —and, it's a pity to acknowledge, we're dealing with his last big work—, is an absolute mistery. We do know barely about its plot, characters and narrative. It has been through six years of development. In spite of the fact that we can behold the film poster from the distribuitor Toho (who's aimed to release the movie in Japanese theaters), it's has been announced there won't be any trailer, press statement or promotional pics. 

Exclusively it has been stated that the feature film would be "a movie of fantasy with a youthful perspective", and thus (from the title as well) we can suspect that the film itself it's an adaptation or, at least an allusion, to the youthful novel from Genzaburo Yoshino written in 1937. The manga adaptation of this novel, that saw the light in 2018, made its great debut in Japan selling more than 2 million of copies. However, what's due to the silence that surrounds the release of the Miyazaki's last masterpice? Toshio Suzuki, Studio Ghibli producer tells in an interview with Bungei Shuju: "An American movie which is released simultaneously this summer with How do you live? launched three trailers. When you watch them, you notice everything is gonna happen in the film. I want to do the opposite exactly". Therefore, Studio Ghibli aims to keep apart from the industry, as it has been doing from decades back, and surprise its public with the magic of cinema.

Now, I want you to wonder what can we expect of this film. What way do you think the plot will take? May we suppose this is an adaptation of a novel? Why this intrigant secrecy around this movie? Have you already taken the decision whether you will watch it when releasing on threathers or at home? I open a discussion about Hayao Miyazaki's last masterpiece!



Jun 28, 2023 8:04 AM
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harry potter in kimono wtf

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Jun 28, 2023 8:05 AM
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I expect nothing and i won't see it, i hate ghibli films with a passion and i hate miyazaki's pretentious holier-than-thou auteur attitude.
Jun 28, 2023 8:10 AM
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TsutanaiFuun said:
harry potter in kimono wtf
Nice idea that one of Harry Potter, it coudn't avoid to laugh. Definitely you SHOULD give it a try to Ghibli works, believe me. 
Jun 28, 2023 8:12 AM
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I expect nothing and i won't see it, i hate ghibli films with a passion and i hate miyazaki's pretentious holier-than-thou auteur attitude.
I truly admire you for that confession. 
Jun 28, 2023 8:15 AM
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We already have a  Kimitachi wa Dou Ikiru Ka forum, go post this nonsense there. 
Jun 28, 2023 8:16 AM
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Dookie01 said:
tchitchouan said:
I expect nothing and i won't see it, i hate ghibli films with a passion and i hate miyazaki's pretentious holier-than-thou auteur attitude.
I truly admire you for that confession. 


It is not really confession, i never liked these super lectury and moral-heavy films like grave of the fire flies and spirited away.
Though even i can't deny the top notch quality of animation especially on that tale of the bamboo cutter princess kaguya film.
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tchitchouan said:
Dookie01 said:
I truly admire you for that confession. 


It is not really confession, i never liked these super lectury and moral-heavy films like grave of the fire flies and spirited away.
Though even i can't deny the top notch quality of animation especially on that tale of the bamboo cutter princess kaguya film.


Grave of the Frireflies is not  super lectury or moral heavy. It's mediocre mostly but not for the reasons you imagined.
Jun 28, 2023 8:23 AM
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Dadjjko said:
tchitchouan said:


It is not really confession, i never liked these super lectury and moral-heavy films like grave of the fire flies and spirited away.
Though even i can't deny the top notch quality of animation especially on that tale of the bamboo cutter princess kaguya film.


Grave of the Frireflies is not  super lectury or moral heavy. It's mediocre mostly but not for the reasons you imagined.


It's implied, especially at the end when the character looks directly into the camera and guilt trips the viewers, like "see this is what the war caused, this is what YOU caused" neglecting all the other atrocities perpetrated on all sides everywhere else in the world.
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tchitchouan said:
Dadjjko said:


Grave of the Frireflies is not  super lectury or moral heavy. It's mediocre mostly but not for the reasons you imagined.


It's implied, especially at the end when the character looks directly into the camera and guilt trips the viewers, like "see this is what the war caused, this is what YOU caused" neglecting all the other atrocities perpetrated on all sides everywhere else in the world.


The director of the movie himself said the film does not have any anti-war messages, what you imagined in your head does not mean that's what actually is.
Jun 28, 2023 8:33 AM

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tchitchouan said:
I expect nothing and i won't see it, i hate ghibli films with a passion and i hate miyazaki's pretentious holier-than-thou auteur attitude.

I'm surprised we share similar views on the matter. Most people tend to either like his works or don't know about them.
Jun 28, 2023 8:34 AM

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I can only imagine the movie is bad, and Miyazaki thinks nobody will want to watch it once we finally learn what it's about. Until then, hardcore fans will give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Dadjjko said:
tchitchouan said:


It's implied, especially at the end when the character looks directly into the camera and guilt trips the viewers, like "see this is what the war caused, this is what YOU caused" neglecting all the other atrocities perpetrated on all sides everywhere else in the world.


The director of the movie himself said the film does not have any anti-war messages, what you imagined in your head does not mean that's what actually is.


Directors often say many things to appease audiences and critics, i see the film for what it is and not for what it's claimed to be.
Jun 28, 2023 8:36 AM
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Honestly, I don't know what to expect. :o
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tchitchouan said:
Dadjjko said:


The director of the movie himself said the film does not have any anti-war messages, what you imagined in your head does not mean that's what actually is.


Directors often say many things to appease audiences and critics, i see the film for what it is and not for what it's claimed to be.

If coping makes you think you are right by all means continue.
Jun 28, 2023 8:37 AM
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Tiosar said:
tchitchouan said:
I expect nothing and i won't see it, i hate ghibli films with a passion and i hate miyazaki's pretentious holier-than-thou auteur attitude.

I'm surprised we share similar views on the matter. Most people tend to either like his works or don't know about them.


Oh i've seen most of his work diligently especially his older ones and i still hate them, no amount of praise or accolades or fancy buzzwords can influence me.
Jun 28, 2023 8:39 AM
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Dadjjko said:
tchitchouan said:


Directors often say many things to appease audiences and critics, i see the film for what it is and not for what it's claimed to be.

If coping makes you think you are right by all means continue.


No, i'm not right or wrong, this is my personal opinion and everyone should make their own. Don't let my disdain towards him keep you from enjoying his films, i'm sure you can find many others who like his work, i simply don't.
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tchitchouan said:
Oh i've seen most of his work diligently especially his older ones and i still hate them
Most of the Ghibli movies I've seen were directed by Miyazaki. Are there any Ghibli directors you prefer over him and Takahata? Personally, I like The Cat Returns.
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Jun 28, 2023 8:51 AM
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Lucifrost said:
tchitchouan said:
Oh i've seen most of his work diligently especially his older ones and i still hate them
Most of the Ghibli movies I've seen were directed by Miyazaki. Are there any Ghibli directors you prefer over him and Takahata? Personally, I like The Cat Returns.


Yeah the Cat Returns is pretty enjoyable and harmless. i prefer Tomomi Mochizuki, Goro Miyazaki, Hiroyuki Morita and Hiromasa Yonebayashi over him.

And because i'm such a contrarian and adversarial towards Hayao Miyazaki's views and philosphy i think that Tales from Earthsea and Earwig and the Witch are the best ghibli films and Ronja, the Robber's Daughter is the best ghibli animated series.
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The only thing I can say right now is that I am very excited and definitely gonna watch it.
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I expect to be a Miyazaki film, which means I expect how good it is to be overblown and I expect to have zero interest in it. Good for the people who are interested though.
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tchitchouan said:
Lucifrost said:
Most of the Ghibli movies I've seen were directed by Miyazaki. Are there any Ghibli directors you prefer over him and Takahata? Personally, I like The Cat Returns.


Yeah the Cat Returns is pretty enjoyable and harmless. i prefer Tomomi Mochizuki, Goro Miyazaki, Hiroyuki Morita and Hiromasa Yonebayashi over him.

And because i'm such a contrarian and adversarial towards Hayao Miyazaki's views and philosphy i think that Tales from Earthsea and Earwig and the Witch are the best ghibli films and Ronja, the Robber's Daughter is the best ghibli animated series.
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tchitchouan said:
i think that Tales from Earthsea and Earwig and the Witch are the best ghibli films
I think it's unlikely I'd enjoy Earthsea, since I hate the book. I may wish to watch Earwig someday, as I am a fan of its original author. Have you read Howl's Moving Castle or any of her other books?
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Jun 28, 2023 9:00 AM
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ZXEAN said:
tchitchouan said:


Yeah the Cat Returns is pretty enjoyable and harmless. i prefer Tomomi Mochizuki, Goro Miyazaki, Hiroyuki Morita and Hiromasa Yonebayashi over him.

And because i'm such a contrarian and adversarial towards Hayao Miyazaki's views and philosphy i think that Tales from Earthsea and Earwig and the Witch are the best ghibli films and Ronja, the Robber's Daughter is the best ghibli animated series.
Your teast in anime is superb 🥴🤟


Thank you so much, i appreciate it n_n
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tchitchouan said:
Dadjjko said:

If coping makes you think you are right by all means continue.


No, i'm not right or wrong, this is my personal opinion and everyone should make their own. Don't let my disdain towards him keep you from enjoying his films, i'm sure you can find many others who like his work, i simply don't.

And now you are digressing from the topic rather than admitting you are wrong. your argument that the director saying this is not an anti-war film to appease critics or audiences doesn't make sense to begin with, saying such a thing wouldn't appease ether party.  And that's why I don't take zoomers seriously, they think they know-it-all with their limited knowledge.
Jun 28, 2023 9:01 AM
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Lucifrost said:
tchitchouan said:
i think that Tales from Earthsea and Earwig and the Witch are the best ghibli films
I think it's unlikely I'd enjoy Earthsea, since I hate the book. I may wish to watch Earwig someday, as I am a fan of its original author. Have you read Howl's Moving Castle or any of her other books?


Yes i have read of them, just to understand the gist of the story.
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TsutanaiFuun said:
harry potter in kimono wtf
Definitely you SHOULD give it a try to Ghibli works, believe me. 
yes i plan to soon in the near future :)

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I find it absurd to declare it a "masterpiece" before it was even released.
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I don't know what to say It feels like this may be the last time I ever saw a great anime movie. (Even though Your name and Silent voice are superior)  I thought shows were the best but Ghibii's sayanora for their fans and even myself. The one thing I hope is that this may be a good movie for this studio. 
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I've been very apathetically checking in every once in a while on the progress of this film for I think a few years now. I am pretty excited to see it and I would love to go check it out in the theaters, but I don't have a job or any source of income so my chances of that are pretty slim.
Jun 28, 2023 5:50 PM

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Let's see how 50 years worth of anime-making experience culminates.
Jun 28, 2023 5:58 PM
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As for the content, I don't expect much, as the Ghibli films of the past few years have not been my cup of tea. As for the plot, I wonder if the movie will be quite different from the original, since the original novel has no fantasy elements, but the movie was previously reported to have fantasy content.

I'm hoping to go see the movie the first time on the first day it opens, if possible. I think I'll be going to see the movie within three days of it's release, because I hate hearing spoilers ahead of time.

Jun 29, 2023 12:35 PM

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Probably nothing. I recently watched all the ghibli movies and most of them were >insert infamous 3 letter word here<. And each Miyazaki Movie got progressively more irrelevant.
Jun 29, 2023 1:02 PM
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Not sure what to expect, but Miyazaki hasn't let me down so far.

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Jun 29, 2023 4:03 PM
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Is that shinpachi from Gintama?
Nice to see him getting a spin-off
 

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Of fucking course I am going to be watching this in theaters as soon as I can. There's no way I'm not. I haven't read the novel, but I doubt it'd matter since Miyazaki doesn't care for faithfully adapting books and usually goes about it the way he wants to. I'm hyped to hear that this film will be on the fantastical side though. Maybe it's too much to expect that it'll be on a "Spirited Away" level but I'd be ecstatic if it was.
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Not a masterpiece if I am outright honest. I have little faith in Ghibli as a studio now, seeing what they have pumped out in the past decade. Call me crazy, but I anticipate Miyazaki's career to fizzle out and not end with a bang.
Jul 5, 2023 8:13 PM

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I am expecting the same thing Ghibli does every time. So yeah, we're fine and curious about it.

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Btw is there a Ghibli movie that can be called a masterpiece? I enjoyed them, but not to such levels.

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same as with The Wind Rises.
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