The manga's starting was heavily critisized

Apr 14, 2023 7:48 PM

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Yes, the manga's starting was not considered enjoyable and many though this cant even come close to Kaguya, that the author should have stuck to the comedy genre (well I still think he does that better)

The manga was rated 6.6-6.7 by the time chapter 10 of manga came!!! The anime is rated 9.3 for the same thing!!

What changed?

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Apr 14, 2023 7:52 PM

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MAL users being dumb and giving everything they see 10/10 as usual. Not surprising.

Apr 14, 2023 8:02 PM

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I don't really remember the MAL rating of the manga at the time but bro, it's first few chapters were discussed in so many podcasts and was quite a lot on the internet.
So many (big and small) youtubers praised it (and so did the comment section), and i have been waiting for the adaptation ever since then (Trash taste podcasts for example and then Joey and Gigguk went out of their way to read it further and each make a video about it)

Apr 14, 2023 8:03 PM

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It's a true case of bandwagon, mixed with the hype from the manga.

I don't think the manga was that hyped when it first started considering nobody really knew what to expect.

Apr 14, 2023 8:50 PM

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MAXproARYAN said:
I don't really remember the MAL rating of the manga at the time but bro, it's first few chapters were discussed in so many podcasts and was quite a lot on the internet.
So many (big and small) youtubers praised it (and so did the comment section), and i have been waiting for the adaptation ever since then (Trash taste podcasts for example and then Joey and Gigguk went out of their way to read it further and each make a video about it)

Yeah, I first heard about this from Joey about two years ago and I knew once it got adapted it would blow up like this. I own the first volume since that's all that is available in America and I absolutely loved it. I'll be watching the first episode on Monday when I don't have work.

Apr 14, 2023 11:06 PM

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it’s probably the fact it took 10 weeks instead of 90 minutes to get to ai’s death

Apr 14, 2023 11:11 PM

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When a new manga or a LN comes out, nobody knows what to expect, but that is not really the case for it's anime adaptation. People who have read the source, will already know what will happen and start a Bandwagon of hype (like what a lot of people before me told). the same thing happened with many popular manga adaptations like CSM, Hell's Paradise etc.

Apr 15, 2023 2:06 AM

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I think there’s still some steam coming off the mangaka’s hype from his previously celebrated work, so people are feeling very passionate about this series. But that being said, I think this series has set the standard for openings in anime, even more than Attack on Titan or even Eva. This reminds me a lot of G_Witch’s prologue, and how it introduced an entire world with colorful characters and presents the tension and conflict of the series that will lead into the finale later on. G_Witch is a hybrid, though, since the first season feels very much like a slice of life. However, season two is seeing things ramping up quickly. But the thing about this opening is it really did an excellent job on character development. It made you ponder the many characters in the show and their motivations, and how they comprehend pain and hope. By the end, I felt extremely excited to see more. The looming mystery is like a strong hook for a book summary. It makes you eager to crack it open and uncover all the truths of the secrets the summary presents. I think we’re going to see a lot more studios follow this format with bigger budget series.

Apr 15, 2023 2:46 AM

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shubh_jain_2 said:
that the author should have stuck to the comedy genre (well I still think he does that better)

you already said the reason lmao. people expected another kaguya but instead getting otaku idol story :^)

Apr 15, 2023 2:59 AM

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shubh_jain_2 said:
The manga was rated 6.6-6.7 by the time chapter 10 of manga came!!! The anime is rated 9.3 for the same thing!!

Don't forget that until there are enough votes, the calculated score is still heavily weighted towards the site-wide average. New manga tend to amass votes a lot slower than new anime, too, so I think that 6.6-6.7 was still artificially low. The first time the anime showed a score, based on pre-screenings of the first episode in theaters, it showed as a low 7, while a flat calculated average of the assigned scores would've come out as a 9.05 or so.

Apr 15, 2023 5:29 AM

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men this deserve perfect rating as now we not get really git good anime until now, like kono shima, kimi wa midara, deadtube etc that really different dimention if they had anime

Apr 15, 2023 5:32 AM

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and why nidome jinsei is canceled that isekai anime really hit different and get cancel by some bad sh!t news, maybe on our timeline we just deserve to get anime like this then different dimention anime, soon we had vending machine reincarnated anime and sooner again we got hot spring bath reincarnated anime, our timeline is a mistake

Apr 15, 2023 5:35 AM

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Orbakun said:
it’s probably the fact it took 10 weeks instead of 90 minutes to get to ai’s death

yes, in my case it's exactly that, i started reading the manga and for me it took too long to get to the real begining, and in the anime, the prologue it's shorter and it's only one episode, an episode of 90 minutes, but at least, you don't have to be 4 weeks watching the prologue.

Apr 15, 2023 5:38 AM

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shubh_jain_2 said:
Yes, the manga's starting was not considered enjoyable and many though this cant even come close to Kaguya, that the author should have stuck to the comedy genre (well I still think he does that better)

The manga was rated 6.6-6.7 by the time chapter 10 of manga came!!! The anime is rated 9.3 for the same thing!!

What changed?

wdym. Oshi no Ko episode 1 got my understand as a 10/10
so does Kaguya sama: Love is War!

Apr 15, 2023 5:51 AM

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If the critics were correct, then it’s because the anime adaptation took the source material and made it even better. For the anime, the animation quality, music, and voice acting were key highlights of THAT moment (you know the one). In manga, you have to rely a ton on the art and narrative flow to get the emotions across. Maybe it was a dud. Not sure

Apr 15, 2023 6:01 AM

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Probably the result of having to wait so long to get to THAT scene instead of having it in episode 1

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Apr 15, 2023 6:09 AM

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MAL users being dumb and giving everything they see 10/10 as usual. Not surprising. (2)

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Apr 15, 2023 7:17 AM

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Natsuki_SanJuan said:
MAL users being dumb and giving everything they see 10/10 as usual. Not surprising. (2)

Have you actually watched it yet? Bet you'll give it a 1 just cos you want FMAB as #1 lol.

Apr 15, 2023 7:46 AM

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i honestly gave this first episode a 10 because it's a perfect adaptation of the manga that takes it to a higher plain
in a sense it's like bocchi the rock once again
using the medium of animation to tell a story into a greater one
when i read ai's death i had absolutely no reaction
but on the anime it made me tear up.
The composition, the visuals, all find themselves in sync to tell this tragic tale

i am aware that the later episodes will inevitably drop in quality but this first episode is without a doubt, perfect.

Apr 15, 2023 7:55 AM

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CrrptedInstincts said:

Natsuki_SanJuan said:
MAL users being dumb and giving everything they see 10/10 as usual. Not surprising. (2)

Have you actually watched it yet? Bet you'll give it a 1 just cos you want FMAB as #1 lol.

What the fuck? I already read the manga before the anime so I know what happened lol. And did I said about wanting FMAB as #1? People like you, as well as the others makes me think that Oshi no Ko fans are really more pathetic than FMAB stans.

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Apr 15, 2023 7:58 AM

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The anime literally adapted all the prologue in one episode, the build up was probably much better and made the shock factor a lot more reliable and dramatic, it literally peaked in the first episode and people went crazy, that's it.

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Apr 15, 2023 8:10 AM

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Well, for one thing - the original opening was spread out over 10 chapters, that's three months of reading to find out what happens next, rather then 90 minutes.

Basically by doing a full feature length movie they basically get to tell one story and focus on it really well, it's similar to something like Kimi no Na Wa where you build up a story/characters/etc and tell a complete story. Also the anime did it really well, with good voice acting, editing, etc. I read the manga - I thought it was "fun" and more enjoyed it because it was such a crazy story. But seeing it animated it was actually really good.

The main thing is that loving your parents/and parents loving their children is a pretty universal feeling, so pretty much 99% of people can "relate" to it. But at the same time, it has such a strange hook that people will start watching it just because of how weird it is, people want to see something they haven't seen before, but at the same time their heart strings get pulled by the same traditional stuff if they get invested in the characters.

Apr 15, 2023 8:27 AM

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I don't know why the beginning would have ever been criticized. The Prologue is what drew me into this series and how I fell in love with it. The end of the prologue cemented this manga into my favorites, and it only got better from there.

As someone who can't stand Kaguya-sama, I fell in love with Oshi no Ko from the beginning and have said from the get-go that Aka Akasaka was meant for more serious works and should leave the RomComs to others. And yes, I get it, Kaguya-sama is widely popular and my opinion on it is rare. I'm sorry.

Apr 15, 2023 8:38 AM

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Natsuki_SanJuan said:

CrrptedInstincts said:

Have you actually watched it yet? Bet you'll give it a 1 just cos you want FMAB as #1 lol.

Shits happened like 4 times where something gets rated higher than FMAB and instantly gets rating bombed, no you didn't say anything but most comments complaining about high ratings are FMAB fans. I haven't given it score yet as I want to see if the quality is upheld for the rest of the show.

Apr 15, 2023 12:40 PM

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reading these comments makes me think that almost everyone here thinks Oshi no Ko is an anime whose hype is fake and the manga isn't that good. yk maybe if you actually for a second thought that people have their own taste in what they like, then maybe you would be able to comprehend why this gets love. not saying people aren't biased or it gets no hype ratings but saying that is mostly fake, biased, hype-up ratings is like saying FMAB isn't going to eventually review bomb it. many people have been found to have "coincidentally" rated FMAB 10/10 and Oshi no Ko 1/10. But was that really a coincidence?

Apr 15, 2023 1:22 PM

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Undefined_Otaku said:
reading these comments makes me think that almost everyone here thinks Oshi no Ko is an anime whose hype is fake and the manga isn't that good. yk maybe if you actually for a second thought that people have their own taste in what they like, then maybe you would be able to comprehend why this gets love. not saying people aren't biased or it gets no hype ratings but saying that is mostly fake, biased, hype-up ratings is like saying FMAB isn't going to eventually review bomb it. many people have been found to have "coincidentally" rated FMAB 10/10 and Oshi no Ko 1/10. But was that really a coincidence?

I read the manga and wasn't expecting it to jump to #1 based on the first episode, I even wrote some posts saying it wouldn't be as accessable in the west becuase we don't have the insane idol culture. But, after seeing the episode they really did a good job. If they maintain the quality then the anime could be really good even if the manga isn't amazing. (don't get me wrong, I enjoy the manga, but it's not the greatest manga of all time or anything like that, lol)

Apr 15, 2023 3:01 PM

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Bruh... Maybe the others didn't like the show so that's why the rating is going down drastically. Have you ever considered that? FMAB forums are so quiet while the forums here are all about "whining about the score because FMAB stans 'review bombing' it". Take a look at Your Name for example.

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Apr 15, 2023 3:26 PM

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You think the prologue being a big 1 hour and a half episode is a coincidence? The anime production knows the themes and events of the first 10 chapters can be viewed as controversial and non-representative of what the story is actually about, so by preplanning it and make the hook appear so early on they made it a successful start. That's really all there is to it.

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Apr 16, 2023 5:12 AM

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LucDisway said:
You think the prologue being a big 1 hour and a half episode is a coincidence? The anime production knows the themes and events of the first 10 chapters can be viewed as controversial and non-representative of what the story is actually about, so by preplanning it and make the hook appear so early on they made it a successful start. That's really all there is to it.

Well def true. The manga was very controversial when launched, I found it okay though. Only by ch 15 the controversy died down and it first crossed 7, it was one way up after that to the current 8.56 rating

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Apr 16, 2023 5:14 AM

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And chapter 10 was like what!!! Wasn't this the story?

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Apr 19, 2023 8:05 AM

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Interesting. Do you happen to remember any specific criticisms?

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