| Agreed. Love is war is one of the best manga adaptation in recent years. |
| Isn't Mushoku Tensei done by Studio Bind, a brand new studio ? |
| I don’t think it’s underrated but maybe it needs more recognition. |
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I don't really harbour hatred for any studio, personally I liked Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Babylonia (Cloverwork's is a rebrand of one of A1 studios) and am looking forward to Fate/Strange Fake that looks really good.    I mean I think their animation is pretty solid. |
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| @ StarThrone I don't know if this is 100% correct, but it's said that Studio Bind is created just for Mushoku Tensei. |
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| They're partially responsible for the trainwreck that is FranXX. They'll always carry that blemish with them as far as I'm concerned. Worst anime in existence to me. |
Pit93 said: They're partially responsible for the trainwreck that is FranXX. They'll always carry that blemish with them as far as I'm concerned. Worst anime in existence to me. Well, say about that Show what you will....but.... The studio was messing it up? I don't think so. I remember people beeing pretty stunned by how good it looked early to mid Season. Production value seemed alright. In general I think A1 does a good Job. It's not hidden, tho. Look at the sort of IP's they get to adapt. They're definetly a bit too relevant in the industry to be considered "underrated", I feel. |
Merve2LoveApr 2, 2023 5:38 AM
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| Nah that's because A-1 has been corrupted by Soyny, so you know how anime fans feel about them. That's why Studio Bind is the real GOAT |
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| >A1 is kinda underrated Nope their productions tend to be popular >very overhated Nope I would say their reception has been average in general >top three manga adaptations according to me That doesn't prove anything though. >the only thing people expect from demon slayer and ufotable are fights Strawman >A1 makes a lot of highly anticipated upcoming shit Yeah that's true >A1 makes more anime than ufotable therefore they are better Quality is more important than quantity unless you are the soviet/russian army >people blame SDS on A1 They don't stop lying >people blame Nier on them I don't know enough about nier's production so someone can enlighten me on that >they made two of my favorite animated scenes Finally good arguments. I haven't seen either of these scenes but A1 has turned out other good looking products. I think SAO's fights look great for example. |
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| What I see A-1 Pictures always has been get recognize because how good the adaptation from it. Also it's one of my favorite Studio so idk what are you talking about. But more importantly, it has done great to adapted ecchi scene. |
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Nillwas said: yup you are right. they created the studio specifically to adapt mushoku tensei completely.@ StarThrone I don't know if this is 100% correct, but it's said that Studio Bind is created just for Mushoku Tensei. |
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AnimePedestrian said: Fate/Babylonia (Cloverwork's is a rebrand of one of A1 studios) Cloverwork became completely independent from A-1 ever since Oct 2018, due to the 2 studio's production pipelines and styles becoming completely different. Funny how the 2 studios are just 1 station away from each other... |
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| A-1 Pictures can always be relied upon to have smooth and appealing animation. They also put in a large amount of effort to adapt the core aspects of a manga that the fans love. However, in my opinion, they also adapt some of the best and worst stories in the industry. They're the studio behind some of the most beloved shows like Love is War, Your Lie in April, and 86. But they also adapted some of the least liked shows in the community like Sword Art Online, Darling in the FranXX, and Fairy Tail. At the end of the day, the impression I get is that they're just a company that adapts what they think will be popular and make money. They put effort into it so publishers and investors can be happy, but it's not like they really have a unique style or some sort of care into what they take on. |
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Ri-KoRin said: AnimePedestrian said: Fate/Babylonia (Cloverwork's is a rebrand of one of A1 studios) Cloverwork became completely independent from A-1 ever since Oct 2018, due to the 2 studio's production pipelines and styles becoming completely different. Funny how the 2 studios are just 1 station away from each other... Yeah, it says online Cloverworks is a rebrand of an A1 Studio so I assume their a lot of A1 blood and talent in that studio. |
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ApplePieHunter said: A-1 Pictures can always be relied upon to have smooth and appealing animation. They also put in a large amount of effort to adapt the core aspects of a manga that the fans love. However, in my opinion, they also adapt some of the best and worst stories in the industry. But they also adapted some of the least liked shows in the community like, Darling in the FranXX Isn't Darling in the FranXX a trigger original which A1 worked alongside Trigger to produce? |
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MAXproARYAN said: Mushoku Tensei isn't done by A1. It was Bind.Hear me out... When you ask me what i think are the top manga adaptations of all time, i think of 86 , mushoku tensai and love is war in order, 2/3 are made by A-1.i believe all 3 of those are S tier adaptations and elevate the already loved source material, and has tons of love put into it. Yes , demon slayer has god tier animations but you never look forward to ufotable adapting a scene from demon slayer which isnt a fight sequence, which is smth i wouldnt call elevating the manga . I also think A-1 has the most stacked lineup for upcoming anime along with mappa. A-1 has love is war , 86 , lycoris recoil, nier (despite the production issues), mashle, SOLO LEVELLING and few others , which compete toe to toe with Mappa's jjk, csm , Hell's paradise, aot and vinland saga . Ufotable makes like one anime a year, and while they do deliver quality anime, i think quantity is also important. People hate A-1 for sds but sds got bad after S2, which was not adapted by A-1, and some people blame A-1 for that. Others hate it for things like Nier production issues , but thats problem of the production studio Aniplex and not A-1's staff. I think two of my fav animated scenes of all time are 86 part 2 ending, and love is war s3 ending, where you can just see passion and love for the project flowing through the screen They dropped 7ds after season 2 and the show is older now so it doesn't compare with their recent productions. A1 pictures cannot do cgi. It is all outsourced. And it was shit. I have seen lower tier studios do better. Their shows tend to have simplistic designs to make it easy to animate. But mappa and ufotable are far better at cgi and this isn't even a debate. The studio itself is not underrated and neither is cloverworks. They are considered a premium anime studio with a premium anime brand. They get far more traction than a typical anime |
AnimePedestrian said: The majority of episodes of Darling in the Franxx were animated by CloverWorks.Isn't Darling in the FranXX a trigger original which A1 worked alongside Trigger to produce? Trigger only animated 6 episodes out of 24 And in fact, A-1 Pictures didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, they only get credited with it, because CloverWorks was named "A-1 Pictures Kouenji Studio" in the past. So the A-1 pictures that we know today, didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, it was all CloverWorks and Trigger |
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MadanielFL said: AnimePedestrian said: The majority of episodes of Darling in the Franxx were animated by CloverWorks.Isn't Darling in the FranXX a trigger original which A1 worked alongside Trigger to produce? Trigger only animated 6 episodes out of 24 And in fact, A-1 Pictures didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, they only get credited with it, because CloverWorks was named "A-1 Pictures Kouenji Studio" in the past. So the A-1 pictures that we know today, didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, it was all CloverWorks and Trigger Wasn't the animation praised tho? I thought it was the story (by Trigger) which was so controversial |
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| Has A1 ever actually made their own show - like an Original. As most of what I've seen is adaptation - totally cool, but I wonder if they have something they as a studio really want to make |
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MAXproARYAN said: A1 doesn't do their own cgi. It is outsourced. The problem is when you blend cgi with 2d is when it all looks fake. Barely any of sao and apocrypha used heavy cgi. 86 never blended the two otherwise it would look offWhy do you think A-1 cgi is bad? Nothing except First ep of nier and some sao episodes had bad cgi. Honestly 86 had amazing cgi and so did fate/aporochya And did you see the trailer for Fate strange fake?? You should if you haven't because it has absolutely 10/10 animations and i believe cgi was used. And yes they aren't the best for cgi but they dont use a lot of it either |
Nillwas said: false, it wasn't founded solely for Mushoku Tensei@ StarThrone I don't know if this is 100% correct, but it's said that Studio Bind is created just for Mushoku Tensei. |
AnimePedestrian said: The story isn't by Trigger. MadanielFL said: The majority of episodes of Darling in the Franxx were animated by CloverWorks. Trigger only animated 6 episodes out of 24 And in fact, A-1 Pictures didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, they only get credited with it, because CloverWorks was named "A-1 Pictures Kouenji Studio" in the past. So the A-1 pictures that we know today, didn't animate a single episode of Franxx, it was all CloverWorks and Trigger Wasn't the animation praised tho? I thought it was the story (by Trigger) which was so controversial The man behind the show is an ex-Gainax employee and now he doesn't work for any studio. |
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nwssx said: Nillwas said: false, it wasn't founded solely for Mushoku Tensei@ StarThrone I don't know if this is 100% correct, but it's said that Studio Bind is created just for Mushoku Tensei. Dunno where you got this made up info about. But Studio Bind is a studio created by staff from white fox. They will use Jobles as a way to set up their business in the long run |
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Nillwas said: with this you basically proved my point (?), it wasn't founded for Mushoku Tenseinwssx said: false, it wasn't founded solely for Mushoku Tensei Dunno where you got this made up info about. But Studio Bind is a studio created by staff from white fox. They will use Jobles as a way to set up their business in the long run |
MadanielFL said: AnimePedestrian said: The story isn't by Trigger. Wasn't the animation praised tho? I thought it was the story (by Trigger) which was so controversial The man behind the show is an ex-Gainax employee and now he doesn't work for any studio. Wasn't trigger formed by ex-Gainax employees? |
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| This is literally the most mainstream studio, and until recently was responsible for half or at least a third of all hyped adaptations. If you non-ironically hate them, then you have elitist syndrome. |
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| They’re my number one studio of all time |
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| Even if A-1 is underrated or even over-hated or both, I have only ever bought something like "Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri" on Bluray from A-1 and watched it more than once (kind a wished I had never opened it because it's selling for over 150USD new these days. Just to be clear it's the limited edition box set). Anything else I have ever bought that this studio has produced I don't think I have actually ever watched it more than once. While I will admit there are plenty of other good franchises this studio has pumped out, I doubt I would ever want to re-watch something like 86 or even something like Kaguya-sama again. Even something like Lycoris Recoil was fun to watch but even with a new Lycoris Recoil project announced, I doubt I would ever go back and want to re-watch the 1st season again despite the fact I don't even own it yet on Bluray or DVD. I freaken love Grimgar but only ever watched it once on Bluray too. Personally I don't look at Studios as a factor if I am going to consume something or not, no more than looking at genres, themes, popularity, or even what Era an Anime is from, etc.. A-1 pictures is simply just another studio like any other studio that is still producing contemporary Anime. As an example, if someone is into any particular franchise at all, I doubt they will suddenly say, "No way Am I going to watch this Anime since 'Studio Fantasia' is producing it!". People might pretend to care what studio is producing what, but in the end if they are already into a franchise they will still consume it no matter what studio is involved. |
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nwssx said: Nillwas said: with this you basically proved my point (?), it wasn't founded for Mushoku TenseiDunno where you got this made up info about. But Studio Bind is a studio created by staff from white fox. They will use Jobles as a way to set up their business in the long run English Wiki: On January 31, 2021, Egg Firm CEO and Mushoku Tensei chief producer Nobuhiro Osawa stated that he built the new production studio for Mushoku Tensei. In October 2019, production company Egg Firm explained their rationale for setting up a separate studio from the existing White Fox studio, stating they "needed a system that would allow us to move forward with the project in a continuous, long-term, and systematic manner" so they "will be able to concentrate more on the production of Mushoku Tensei." Egg Firm noted that "Studio Bind will use Mushoku Tensei as a launchpad for its full-scale animation production business. Japanese wiki: 設立の理由には『無職転生 〜異世界行ったら本気だす〜』のアニメ化にあたり、企画を継続的・長期的・計画的に進めていく体制が必要であると判断したことを挙げている。またEGG FIRM代表取締役の大澤信博は、「（スタジオバインドの設立は）うちとWHITE FOXが立てたというよりは、代表取締役の大友寿也さんの独立を2社で後押ししたというのが実態です」と語っている Translated The reason for the establishment of Studio Bind was that the company decided that it was necessary to have a system in place for the continuous, long-term, and systematic development of the project for the anime adaptation of "Unemployed Tensei - Isekai Ika ni Toratte de Honkidasu". EGG FIRM Representative Director Nobuhiro Osawa also stated, "The establishment of Studio Bind was not so much the result of a joint effort by our company and WHITE FOX, but rather the result of two companies supporting the independence of Representative Director Hisaya Otomo. |
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AnimePedestrian said: They were, but that guy isn't a Trigger employee.Wasn't trigger formed by ex-Gainax employees? He is just friends with the founder of Trigger because they knew each other when they both worked at Gainax. |
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MadanielFL said: AnimePedestrian said: They were, but that guy isn't a Trigger employee.Wasn't trigger formed by ex-Gainax employees? He is just friends with the founder of Trigger because they knew each other when they both worked at Gainax. I see, I see. I guess of the two parties Trigger is more responsible for the story then. |
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AnimePedestrian said: It's not like neither of the studios were responsible for the story, and they were just tasked with animating it...MadanielFL said: They were, but that guy isn't a Trigger employee. He is just friends with the founder of Trigger because they knew each other when they both worked at Gainax. I see, I see. I guess of the two parties Trigger is more responsible for the story then. |
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MAXproARYAN said: I haven't played the original game or watched the second show, so I can't be objective about those certain shows. But for me it's like hating fish living in an island country. It's too pretentiousRobertBobert said: This is literally the most mainstream studio, and until recently was responsible for half or at least a third of all hyped adaptations. If you non-ironically hate them, then you have elitist syndrome. I agree but look at some of the forums of Nier Automata or Solo leveling. So many people keep saying that A-1 goona ruin it , or that the anime deserved a different studio or that A-1 remains a hit or miss, all of which are false imo |
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| A-1 Pictures is specialized in picking up the worst source materials for their anime adaptations, which end up with high scores anyway because of good production value. That's where the discrepancy between the high scores and the seemingly negative reception comes from. |
| Yeah I think A-1 Pictures reputation as the McDonald's or Walmart of anime studios is a bit harsh, to be fair they have had their fair share of clunkers but they have also made a large amount of good shows. There are a lot of successful manga adaptations they have done, but they also have a respectable repertoire for original works, personally I though "Anohana" and "Sound of the Sky" where pretty good. I haven't seen some of their more hated works like "Darling in the Franxx" of "SAO" yet, so maybe if I did that would sour my opinion on them. |
MAXproARYAN said: Did I say that I hate A1-Pictures? No, I didn't, so I don't see why you would imply something like that with that Trigger comparison. I also never said anything about Trigger in this context because the Thread is not a bout Trigger but about A1. But if you must know, I do hold FranXX against Trigger as well and I hold it against Imaishi Hiroyuki too.Studio trigger was just as involved in it but everyone loves that studio. I personally really like them too i think its just people's fault fpr expecting too much out of an anime orignal as its not that common for anime orignal series to get good. + I think its been long enough and they improved so much with the shows after it that it can be forgived And I don't think it's people's fault if they think an anime is trash, it's still the fault of the product. Whether I expect something to be trash or not has no bearing on whether I'll actually think it's good or bad in the end. The product stands or falls on its own merits (or lack thereof), no matter my expectation. I'm also generally a big fan of original series, so that point also doesn't work with me. Many of my favorite anime are originals and I'm much more likely to watch a show/movie if it's anime original and not based on some source material. |
Merve2Love said: I don't really care about what people thought the show looked like, that has no influence on what my opinion is about a show. On another note, I too thought it looked good and had some cool designs but then the story and characters were beyond trash imo (and the soundtrack was pretty forgettable which is a shame as that would have made sitting through that anime at least a bit more bearable). After episode 3-4 it was pretty much only downhill for me. And yeah, production value seemed alright. Doesn't change the fact that I think it's a trash product, even if it "looked good". A polished turd is still a turd.Well, say about that Show what you will....but.... The studio was messing it up? I don't think so. I remember people beeing pretty stunned by how good it looked early to mid Season. Production value seemed alright. |
Pit93 said: Merve2Love said: I don't really care about what people thought the show looked like, that has no influence on what my opinion is about a show. On another note, I too thought it looked good and had some cool designs but then the story and characters were beyond trash imo (and the soundtrack was pretty forgettable which is a shame as that would have made sitting through that anime at least a bit more bearable). After episode 3-4 it was pretty much only downhill for me. And yeah, production value seemed alright. Doesn't change the fact that I think it's a trash product, even if it "looked good". A polished turd is still a turd.Well, say about that Show what you will....but.... The studio was messing it up? I don't think so. I remember people beeing pretty stunned by how good it looked early to mid Season. Production value seemed alright. Not what I was saying. I was saying: Whatever you think about the Show - it looked good. You saying it was a Turd, but it looked alright is actually you agreeing with me :) We're on the same page, buddy. |
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