Real reason why csm anime has cinematic direction

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relevant parts Fujimoto did not demand much and let the anime staff do their thing more so he is neutral and let the director go wild more which is a mistake in hindsight

Expectations for the TV animation

Fujimoto: I really like to see the direction, whether it be in the form of moving images or manga-like expressions. Chainsaw Man looks like it’s taken from a video, but it’s a very expressive work that could only be done in a manga. If it were to be animated as it is, it would have an uncomfortable feel, and some parts would be tacky, so I would like the anime to show a new direction with the feeling that the original work can be ignored.

Fujimoto: I am an amateur in the field of animation and visual effects, so I hope that the people who know what they are doing will do it in a way that allows them to give 100% of themselves. I’m thinking that it’s better not to say anything as if I absolutely want you to do this.

Fujimoto: It’s hard to imagine what it would be like without seeing it in motion, isn’t it? So we are also looking forward to the broadcast of the animation.

Feb 13, 2023 7:01 AM

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Bisca said:
People doesn't know shit about direction, animation and art direction, People who criticise csm are just casuals who watch shit everyday

📠, no printer.

Feb 13, 2023 7:13 AM

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no the real reason is that csm is csm is csm

Feb 13, 2023 7:18 AM

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Whoever chose the direction doesn’t matter.

The manga is still way superior to the anime because of it

Feb 13, 2023 7:20 AM

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we already know this Mann

Feb 13, 2023 7:20 AM

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It was nicely directed

Feb 13, 2023 7:57 AM

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deg said:
relevant parts Fujimoto did not demand much and let the anime staff do their thing more so he is neutral and let the director go wild more which is a mistake in hindsight

Expectations for the TV animation

Fujimoto: I really like to see the direction, whether it be in the form of moving images or manga-like expressions. Chainsaw Man looks like it’s taken from a video, but it’s a very expressive work that could only be done in a manga. If it were to be animated as it is, it would have an uncomfortable feel, and some parts would be tacky, so I would like the anime to show a new direction with the feeling that the original work can be ignored.

Fujimoto: I am an amateur in the field of animation and visual effects, so I hope that the people who know what they are doing will do it in a way that allows them to give 100% of themselves. I’m thinking that it’s better not to say anything as if I absolutely want you to do this.

Fujimoto: It’s hard to imagine what it would be like without seeing it in motion, isn’t it? So we are also looking forward to the broadcast of the animation.

Fujimoto has still seen all the storyboards, scripts, drafts etc. His editor already confirmed it on twitter. So its not like fujimoto was completely unfamiliar with anime production. And ofc he will not talk about animation and visuals coz he doesn't know shit about it. So yeah he knew about the cinematic style. Idk why u think director went crazy coz all he did was add some anime original scenes and insane cinematography

https://animecorner.me/tatsuki-fujimoto-is-involved-in-chainsaw-man-anime-production-shihei-lin-confirms/

Feb 13, 2023 7:59 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:
relevant parts Fujimoto did not demand much and let the anime staff do their thing more so he is neutral and let the director go wild more which is a mistake in hindsight

Expectations for the TV animation

Fujimoto: I really like to see the direction, whether it be in the form of moving images or manga-like expressions. Chainsaw Man looks like it’s taken from a video, but it’s a very expressive work that could only be done in a manga. If it were to be animated as it is, it would have an uncomfortable feel, and some parts would be tacky, so I would like the anime to show a new direction with the feeling that the original work can be ignored.

Fujimoto: I am an amateur in the field of animation and visual effects, so I hope that the people who know what they are doing will do it in a way that allows them to give 100% of themselves. I’m thinking that it’s better not to say anything as if I absolutely want you to do this.

Fujimoto: It’s hard to imagine what it would be like without seeing it in motion, isn’t it? So we are also looking forward to the broadcast of the animation.

Fujimoto has still seen all the storyboards, scripts, drafts etc. His editor already confirmed it on twitter. So its not like fujimoto was completely unfamiliar with anime production. And ofc he will not talk about animation and visuals coz he doesn't know shit about it. So yeah he knew about the cinematic style. Idk why u think director went crazy coz all he did was add some anime original scenes and insane cinematography

https://animecorner.me/tatsuki-fujimoto-is-involved-in-chainsaw-man-anime-production-shihei-lin-confirms/

me saying the director go wild is a hyperbole saying fujimoto left the direction all on him

Feb 13, 2023 7:59 AM

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Whoever chose the direction doesn’t matter.

The manga is still way superior to the anime because of it

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Feb 13, 2023 8:19 AM

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MadanielFL said:
Whoever chose the direction doesn’t matter.

The manga is still way superior to the anime because of it

That's subjective but i respect your opinion

Feb 13, 2023 8:26 AM

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deg said:

michael_09 said:

Fujimoto has still seen all the storyboards, scripts, drafts etc. His editor already confirmed it on twitter. So its not like fujimoto was completely unfamiliar with anime production. And ofc he will not talk about animation and visuals coz he doesn't know shit about it. So yeah he knew about the cinematic style. Idk why u think director went crazy coz all he did was add some anime original scenes and insane cinematography

https://animecorner.me/tatsuki-fujimoto-is-involved-in-chainsaw-man-anime-production-shihei-lin-confirms/

me saying the director go wild is a hyperbole saying fujimoto left the direction all on him

Bruh obviously the director will do all the direction. No manga author will interfere in the actual direction. That's how it works in every anime.

Feb 13, 2023 8:31 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:

me saying the director go wild is a hyperbole saying fujimoto left the direction all on him

Bruh obviously the director will do all the direction. No manga author will interfere in the actual direction. That's how it works in every anime.

nah the original author has a huge power on major decisions remember that anime that the original author scrap the entire production because he was not satisfied some years ago? i forgot the title of the anime now

and this

The Gensakusha Almighty
Not every member of the Committee gets equal say in every matter, and most of them wouldn't want oversight over everything anyway. (A toy maker wouldn't care about who gets American publishing rights, for example.) One member, however, holds a huge amount of power, by Japanese law: the gensakusha, or original creator, usually a manga artist, gets final say over every major decision. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05

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here is an example of how powerful the original creator is by japan law https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1791535

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MadanielFL said:
Whoever chose the direction doesn’t matter.

The manga is still way superior to the anime because of it

In what way exactly,maybe a little but not by much.

Feb 13, 2023 9:02 AM

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There are other things like the arrogant attitude the director was having towards anime as a whole, along with the VA directing. This threads trying to diminish the criticism of CM hardly make a difference, anyways. The real voices that matter are those from Japan, and when they aren’t buying the BDs, something is wrong. Also, just because the author says he wanted a different tone doesn’t mean he was right. That’s as if he’s been selling chocolate for years and now he instead starts selling cucumbers, it’s not at all what people liked buying from him, so they don’t give him any money. The BD sales aren’t lying: CM fans absolutely hated this adaptation. It sold less than JJK but probably was expected to sell even more. People should be seriously concerned if they’ll ever see CM animated again at all, lol.

Feb 13, 2023 9:04 AM

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Bisca said:
People doesn't know shit about direction, animation and art direction, People who criticise csm are just casuals who watch shit everyday

I could argue the exact opposite. There’s nothing in CM that transcends the medium of anime, it plays more like an student art house film at times, utterly boring with no substance. And your arrogance is like that of the director, which is why Japanese fans wanted him off the project entirely, because he was acting like he was carrying Chainsaw Man into another era of animation, when all he was doing is stroking his own pride.

Feb 13, 2023 9:10 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:
relevant parts Fujimoto did not demand much and let the anime staff do their thing more so he is neutral and let the director go wild more which is a mistake in hindsight

Expectations for the TV animation

Fujimoto: I really like to see the direction, whether it be in the form of moving images or manga-like expressions. Chainsaw Man looks like it’s taken from a video, but it’s a very expressive work that could only be done in a manga. If it were to be animated as it is, it would have an uncomfortable feel, and some parts would be tacky, so I would like the anime to show a new direction with the feeling that the original work can be ignored.

Fujimoto: I am an amateur in the field of animation and visual effects, so I hope that the people who know what they are doing will do it in a way that allows them to give 100% of themselves. I’m thinking that it’s better not to say anything as if I absolutely want you to do this.

Fujimoto: It’s hard to imagine what it would be like without seeing it in motion, isn’t it? So we are also looking forward to the broadcast of the animation.

Fujimoto has still seen all the storyboards, scripts, drafts etc. His editor already confirmed it on twitter. So its not like fujimoto was completely unfamiliar with anime production. And ofc he will not talk about animation and visuals coz he doesn't know shit about it. So yeah he knew about the cinematic style. Idk why u think director went crazy coz all he did was add some anime original scenes and insane cinematography

https://animecorner.me/tatsuki-fujimoto-is-involved-in-chainsaw-man-anime-production-shihei-lin-confirms/

Even if he was active in the production, he literally says he knows zero about animating a work and adapting a work, so he had no idea what was good or not. And now we have Chainsaw Man fans saying it’s “casuals” that didn’t like the series. The series failed in Japan, one of the smartest countries in the world. I doubt most people in Japan, the birthplace of anime, are just casuals and can’t tell the difference between high and low quality productions.

Feb 13, 2023 9:12 AM

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Dude, the choice they went with was indeed the better shit dawg, the whole thing is so mesmerising.

Feb 13, 2023 9:24 AM

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I don't see how this absolves the director of responsibility.

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Feb 13, 2023 9:31 AM

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I have heard someone say anime direction on csm is next level or something. but is that what people want? my answer will be no

Feb 13, 2023 9:56 AM

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the direction is really good i dont get why people dont like it, is it really that different to the manga? (i havent read it)

Feb 13, 2023 10:21 AM

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thunderkitten13 said:

Bisca said:
People doesn't know shit about direction, animation and art direction, People who criticise csm are just casuals who watch shit everyday

I could argue the exact opposite. There’s nothing in CM that transcends the medium of anime, it plays more like an student art house film at times, utterly boring with no substance. And your arrogance is like that of the director, which is why Japanese fans wanted him off the project entirely, because he was acting like he was carrying Chainsaw Man into another era of animation, when all he was doing is stroking his own pride.

true that, there is literally nothing special about CSM to warrant this adaptation, if anything AOT & Vinland Saga S2 rightfully deserve money & time that was wasted in utter failure that is CSM & let me tell me you why they dont get this high art treatment because it doesnt have cheap boob fondling relatable goals & quirky in your face ass shots candy to lull over audience like csm

Feb 13, 2023 10:51 AM

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lick_the_lemon said:

thunderkitten13 said:

I could argue the exact opposite. There’s nothing in CM that transcends the medium of anime, it plays more like an student art house film at times, utterly boring with no substance. And your arrogance is like that of the director, which is why Japanese fans wanted him off the project entirely, because he was acting like he was carrying Chainsaw Man into another era of animation, when all he was doing is stroking his own pride.

true that, there is literally nothing special about CSM to warrant this adaptation, if anything AOT & Vinland Saga S2 rightfully deserve money & time that was wasted in utter failure that is CSM & let me tell me you why they dont get this high art treatment because it doesnt have cheap boob fondling relatable goals & quirky in your face ass shots candy to lull over audience like csm

Honestly, that’s something that I even gloss over. There’s a huge obsession with ecchi and meme stuff in the fandom. I always see memes of Makima’s butt, being her dog, random funny character faces. It’s not even as if the source material itself is trying to be deep or complex, like a traditional drama. It baffles why they would take Chainsaw Man in this direction with the anime. And exactly what you said: there are other stories that are definitely more meaningful that deserved more for their production. I think either Mappa will double down on their popular franchises or try and adapt more light hearted stuff. It’s obvious absolutely no one liked the overly serious tone of Chainsaw Man. Even AOT had its moments of hilarity, it’s not as if you can’t tell a funny story without it having traditional anime tropes.

Feb 13, 2023 11:19 AM

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God damn this fandom turned so toxic...

Feb 13, 2023 11:38 AM

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Bisca said:
People doesn't know shit about direction, animation and art direction, People who criticise csm are just casuals who watch shit everyday

yeah I feel like the threads would be better if it wasn't a Shonen anime

Feb 13, 2023 4:17 PM

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Yeah. That’s pretty much what I figured. He’s a huge movie nerd so obviously he wants the animated version of his manga to reflect that. He used the power of a different medium to bring his pictures to life the way he imagined it and I think that’s badass!! Hope all those unappreciative losers who sent the staff death threats feel like trash.

Feb 13, 2023 4:31 PM

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michael_09 said:
Csm author said in an interview (happened in 2021) that he wants the anime to have a different direction than the manga. Since author is a huge movie buff, csm director decided to choose the cinematic approach to pay homage to the author. Now, I'm not saying that u should like the anime coz of that reason but stop blaming the director by saying shit like he changed the direction to satisfy his own artistic thing or some other crap like that. Link to interview is below

https://sekainootomodachi.com/jump/

Damn right tho, man i still remember how much of a troll Fujimoto sensei was lmaooo like him impersonating as his imaginary little sister which ended up trolling his editor either unintentionally or intentionally, but it was funny as hell and he's still being a troll like he usually does similar to Akutami sensei.
I do love the cinematic directing cause i've been seeing too much 2D animation directing in animes i watch every episode. The thought about every episode having a cinematic directing so it doesn't feel fast like you can process the emotions you or the characters are having and understanding them more well.

Feb 13, 2023 5:03 PM

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Also chainsaw dog go woof woof go my little one and help raise your owner's dreams!!!

Feb 13, 2023 5:06 PM

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God damn this fandom turned so toxic...

Well that's about every popular anime fandom ik it's saddening.
It's a cursed fate for an anime becoming popular like any other.

Feb 13, 2023 9:11 PM

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only manga reader are unsatisfied
others like this anime

Feb 14, 2023 12:42 AM

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deg said:

michael_09 said:

Bruh obviously the director will do all the direction. No manga author will interfere in the actual direction. That's how it works in every anime.

nah the original author has a huge power on major decisions remember that anime that the original author scrap the entire production because he was not satisfied some years ago? i forgot the title of the anime now

and this

The Gensakusha Almighty
Not every member of the Committee gets equal say in every matter, and most of them wouldn't want oversight over everything anyway. (A toy maker wouldn't care about who gets American publishing rights, for example.) One member, however, holds a huge amount of power, by Japanese law: the gensakusha, or original creator, usually a manga artist, gets final say over every major decision. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05

EDIT:

here is an example of how powerful the original creator is by japan law https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1791535

Ok authors have the power but What u sent is about author dissatisfied with the anime. In csm case, fujimoto was already working with mappa and he has seen all the storyboards, scripts etc. Director did what fujimoto suggested. He didn't said " oh don't go too crazy with the cinematic style". He let the director have the freedom. It's the same case with bocchi the rock. But since bocchi was an unpopular manga, no one gave a shit about all the changes they did in the anime compared to manga in the name of "creativity". The double standards r crazy

Feb 14, 2023 12:46 AM

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thunderkitten13 said:
There are other things like the arrogant attitude the director was having towards anime as a whole, along with the VA directing. This threads trying to diminish the criticism of CM hardly make a difference, anyways. The real voices that matter are those from Japan, and when they aren’t buying the BDs, something is wrong. Also, just because the author says he wanted a different tone doesn’t mean he was right. That’s as if he’s been selling chocolate for years and now he instead starts selling cucumbers, it’s not at all what people liked buying from him, so they don’t give him any money. The BD sales aren’t lying: CM fans absolutely hated this adaptation. It sold less than JJK but probably was expected to sell even more. People should be seriously concerned if they’ll ever see CM animated again at all, lol.

Seeing the way u cry about director in every csm thread, it seems like his comments really hurted u personally just like those otakus. After seeing your profile I can easily tell u are one of those "moe" fans which csm director talked shit about lmaoo. No wonder u are pissed 😹😹

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Feb 14, 2023 12:49 AM

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If every time a mappa drone uses fujimoto words to justify any studio mistake I was given a dime I would already be a millionaire

What mistake are u talking about?

Feb 14, 2023 2:36 AM

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Bisca said:
People doesn't know shit about direction, animation and art direction, People who criticise csm are just casuals who watch shit everyday

Same here , they are isekai and harem, ecchi watchers

Feb 14, 2023 2:44 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:

nah the original author has a huge power on major decisions remember that anime that the original author scrap the entire production because he was not satisfied some years ago? i forgot the title of the anime now

and this

The Gensakusha Almighty
Not every member of the Committee gets equal say in every matter, and most of them wouldn't want oversight over everything anyway. (A toy maker wouldn't care about who gets American publishing rights, for example.) One member, however, holds a huge amount of power, by Japanese law: the gensakusha, or original creator, usually a manga artist, gets final say over every major decision. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05

EDIT:

here is an example of how powerful the original creator is by japan law https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1791535

Ok authors have the power but What u sent is about author dissatisfied with the anime. In csm case, fujimoto was already working with mappa and he has seen all the storyboards, scripts etc. Director did what fujimoto suggested. He didn't said " oh don't go too crazy with the cinematic style". He let the director have the freedom. It's the same case with bocchi the rock. But since bocchi was an unpopular manga, no one gave a shit about all the changes they did in the anime compared to manga in the name of "creativity". The double standards r crazy

thats what i said right? fujimoto let the director do what he wants so you just repeated what i said

its not double standards its how to please the core fans in this case the source material fans of japan did not like the cinematic realism

Feb 14, 2023 4:22 AM

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michael_09 said:

thunderkitten13 said:
There are other things like the arrogant attitude the director was having towards anime as a whole, along with the VA directing. This threads trying to diminish the criticism of CM hardly make a difference, anyways. The real voices that matter are those from Japan, and when they aren’t buying the BDs, something is wrong. Also, just because the author says he wanted a different tone doesn’t mean he was right. That’s as if he’s been selling chocolate for years and now he instead starts selling cucumbers, it’s not at all what people liked buying from him, so they don’t give him any money. The BD sales aren’t lying: CM fans absolutely hated this adaptation. It sold less than JJK but probably was expected to sell even more. People should be seriously concerned if they’ll ever see CM animated again at all, lol.

Seeing the way u cry about director in every csm thread, it seems like his comments really hurted u personally just like those otakus. After seeing your profile I can easily tell u are one of those "moe" fans which csm director talked shit about lmaoo. No wonder u are pissed 😹😹

Nothing more moe than Madoka Magica and Kakegurui, I guess. But anyways, you spouted nothing but insults, but I shall respond: Chainsaw Man has become a stain on the industry because of what Mappa has done. Japanese business culture is extremely violent. They do not like failures when so many promises were made. This is not Attack on Titan where it made its own way due to the quality of the product. Chainsaw Man was hyped to be transcendental to the medium of anime. The CEO of Mappa literally said “Chainsaw Man will mark a new era” for them. Do you know how much of a fool he looks like? And before you say anything else, I’ll ask you this: are you going to buy the BDs? Are you going to buy the merch? I certainly hope so. Your beloved franchise can get all the help it can: it’s literally rolling down a mountain into a fiery pit as we speak…

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deg said:

thats what i said right? fujimoto let the director do what he wants so you just repeated what i said

its not double standards its how to please the core fans in this case the source material fans of japan did not like the cinematic realism

Director did what fujimoto suggested him to do. He didn't direct the actual eps coz there is already a director. And I'm not saying fujimoto don't have the power to direct coz authors have the power to do it. For ex- spy family upcoming movie is directed by its author. As i said before, he saw all the storyboards so he knew about all the anime original scenes and other changes. He could have easily said to remove it since this doesn't come under "animation and visuals effects" ( which he said he will leave it to the animators since he doesn't know anything about it).

If the core fans are the japanese otakus, then yeah they didn't like it coz of their personal hate towards director. On the other side, japan TV viewership for last 2 csm eps was at first position surpassing spy family ( who was at first position for the first 10 eps). If japanese didn't like the cinematic style why didnt they drop the anime before? Why was there a sudden rise for the last 2 eps?

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General stuff like flopping the franchise, makeing csm a joke, etc

Oh since csm flopped, it will not get s2 right? Hope u don't cry when mappa announces s2

Feb 14, 2023 6:36 AM

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Nothing more moe than Madoka Magica and Kakegurui, I guess. But anyways, you spouted nothing but insults, but I shall respond: Chainsaw Man has become a stain on the industry because of what Mappa has done. Japanese business culture is extremely violent. They do not like failures when so many promises were made. This is not Attack on Titan where it made its own way due to the quality of the product. Chainsaw Man was hyped to be transcendental to the medium of anime. The CEO of Mappa literally said “Chainsaw Man will mark a new era” for them. Do you know how much of a fool he looks like? And before you say anything else, I’ll ask you this: are you going to buy the BDs? Are you going to buy the merch? I certainly hope so. Your beloved franchise can get all the help it can: it’s literally rolling down a mountain into a fiery pit as we speak…

People who got offended by csm director's statements, I just love seeing them cry. Hope they cry more when mappa announces s2

Feb 14, 2023 7:01 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:

thats what i said right? fujimoto let the director do what he wants so you just repeated what i said

its not double standards its how to please the core fans in this case the source material fans of japan did not like the cinematic realism

Director did what fujimoto suggested him to do. He didn't direct the actual eps coz there is already a director. And I'm not saying fujimoto don't have the power to direct coz authors have the power to do it. For ex- spy family upcoming movie is directed by its author. As i said before, he saw all the storyboards so he knew about all the anime original scenes and other changes. He could have easily said to remove it since this doesn't come under "animation and visuals effects" ( which he said he will leave it to the animators since he doesn't know anything about it).

If the core fans are the japanese otakus, then yeah they didn't like it coz of their personal hate towards director. On the other side, japan TV viewership for last 2 csm eps was at first position surpassing spy family ( who was at first position for the first 10 eps). If japanese didn't like the cinematic style why didnt they drop the anime before? Why was there a sudden rise for the last 2 eps?

lol. What do you mean "personal" hate? That would be if they hated him for his face or whatever. If they hate him because they think the end product is bad how is that hate "personal"?

Also why do you think BDs selling bad means that most otakus hated it? It's likely yes but there are many other possibilities, like maybe it's just that most people in Japan think it's 7/10. If someone thinks the anime is a 7/10 they aren't going to buy the BD.

If you're going to infer that the Japanese otakus "hate" the CSM anime just because they don't buy the BDs then it's quite obvious that the western otakus also hate the CSM anime. After all, all the english speakers simply say things like BDs don't matter, or they do web traffic jutsu to say "well actually it sold pretty well on the Mappa Shop". Basically, they do everything except actually buying the BDs. You know, the thing that if the Japanese don't do enough of people here say is pretty good evidence that they HATE the director and the anime.

Japan TV viewership = good
Non-JP streaming viewership = good
Japan BD sales = some
global BD sales = blah blah BDs don't matter

Wow! This is weird, the Japanese seem to be doing more to actually support the CSM anime! Meanwhile muh global community shows its support using... internet points! Reddit karma! Positve MAL threads! What's next? Raising their hands for Ryu Nakayama's Genki Dama?

lol

Feb 14, 2023 9:06 AM

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michael_09 said:

deg said:

thats what i said right? fujimoto let the director do what he wants so you just repeated what i said

its not double standards its how to please the core fans in this case the source material fans of japan did not like the cinematic realism

Director did what fujimoto suggested him to do. He didn't direct the actual eps coz there is already a director. And I'm not saying fujimoto don't have the power to direct coz authors have the power to do it. For ex- spy family upcoming movie is directed by its author. As i said before, he saw all the storyboards so he knew about all the anime original scenes and other changes. He could have easily said to remove it since this doesn't come under "animation and visuals effects" ( which he said he will leave it to the animators since he doesn't know anything about it).

If the core fans are the japanese otakus, then yeah they didn't like it coz of their personal hate towards director. On the other side, japan TV viewership for last 2 csm eps was at first position surpassing spy family ( who was at first position for the first 10 eps). If japanese didn't like the cinematic style why didnt they drop the anime before? Why was there a sudden rise for the last 2 eps?

youre putting words in my mouth i never said Fujimoto should be the director but instead i said Fujimoto fully allows the director to do whatever he wants which can be a mistake in hindsight now

as for the TV ratings you know you can watch late night anime for free on Japanese TV anyway so the Japanese Otakus might be hype for it but was disappointed when they finally watch it and thus they did not buy the blu ray discs later on

Feb 14, 2023 9:15 AM

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The cinematic style is very good but what the author said was not bad. They should put a perfect director to adapt the story accurately according to fujimoto.

Feb 14, 2023 9:25 AM

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