| Why are you comparing the two when they're drastically different? |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
| Buddy daddies is gay Spy x Family is straight |
| HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Who said I like straight more than gay? |
| HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
| Wrong. What kind of person seriously needs to pit childcare themed shows against each other. A very sad person, that's who. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| This is just complete and utter nonsense bordering on a bait thread; taking it straight up that Spy x Family's circumstances of why they are together is actually how they feel about each other while completely playing up the loving parents angle in Buddy Daddies. Kazuki and Rei are responsible for Miri's wellbeing after killing her father, and their attempts to take care of her are as bumbling as their attempts at their work. Please show me where Kazuki and especially Rei show anywhere near close the parental love towards Miri that Loid and Yor actually give Anya. |
| 𝘼 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙡 𝙙𝙬𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣 𝙖 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙗𝙤𝙙𝙮 |
Tobirama-Sensei said: Are you serious? To say that Anya isn't loved and Loid/Yor don't actually care is just dumb, considering the show itself makes it clear that the two simply refuse to accept the obvious. That's the whole point of Spy Family - fake family becoming real. The two do genuinely care but then convince themselves "it's purely because of the mission". Just like Damian liking Anya but refusing to admit it out of pride. The main HUGE difference with Spy x Family is that Miri got two dads that actually love her, and care about her as their own. Where did you see Rei trying to raise Miri?! I have to agree with @ E_Creator on this thread being a potential bait. Did you actually watch any of these 2 shows? |
Did you completely ignore the last episode where Rei has to take care of Miri all on his own? Miri gets a cold and Rei goes out to get help from Kyu. He gives her cold medicine and falls asleep besides her while taking care of her. No to mention he had to previously feed her. Did you even see the smug face of Rei when both of them were stalking Miri in order to give her her lunch box during the zoo visit while Miri was praising Rei papa for being his fav and being the best at Morio Kart. Both Rei & Kazuki beat the sh*t of the creepy guy harassing the kids at the zoo. Both Kazuki and Rei busted their asses trying to comply with all the paperwork in order to get her into a daycare. Same goes when they had to take low jobs from Kyu in order to put food on the table (you can't raise a kid without money). As disfunctional as Rei can be, you cannot claim that he's not trying to raise Miri, just because Kazuki does most of the heavy lifting in this family. |
Kimurah said: Did you completely ignore the date the thread was created? Obviously OP couldn't have seen the future episode so I was not going to use the details from the latest, 7th episode.Did you completely ignore the last episode Also, my emphasis was on OP'S BS about spy family. He claims that in 6 episodes Rei and Kazuki showed more genuine love and care towards Miri than Loid and Yor did to Anya in 25 episodes. Which is total nonsense! You're also confusing raising with doing bare minimum to make sure the kid stays ok. By that logic, Miri's mom also raised Miri. As we know, she hated her and neglected her and gave her cheap-crap food and eventually abandoned her. Not hitting your kid and making sure they don't starve to death is not raising them! Kazuki obviously tries the most. No arguing here. When it comes to Rei however, he does the bare minimum of the minimum. In most cases he has to do stuff because Kazuki makes him to tag along or forces him to take care of Miri because he's busy. Rei basically tolerated Miri's existence and since he doesn't hate kids, he isn't repulsed by her or being cruel to her. That's not raising, that's just no different from making sure your buddie's pet doesn't die while they're gone. The three also live in the same freaking apartment after all. It's not like Rei can ignore Miri's existence whenever she "steps in his safe-space". Raising a kid is hardly just feeding them and not neglecting them. Thus, when OP said that even Rei showed true love and care towards miri (in 6 episodes of this show) while Loid/Yor didn't, I had to call OP out on his BS. Episode 7 did a good job at showing that Rei cares about Miri. Then again, making sure the kid doesn't die from (hunger/sickness etc) is not the same as Raising. It's obviously "showing care" but not raising. |
| Lmfao people who really dont read the manga and watch the series should just stay away |
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Sigmar-Unberogen said: Did you completely ignore the date the thread was created? Obviously OP couldn't have seen the future episode so I was not going to use the details from the latest, 7th episode. And your defense was withholding evidence and making an argument that would counter OP's argument which ended up being right. You have no case in this one pal. Sigmar-Unberogen said: You're also confusing raising with doing bare minimum to make sure the kid stays ok. By that logic, Miri's mom also raised Miri. As we know, she hated her and neglected her and gave her cheap-crap food and eventually abandoned her. Not hitting your kid and making sure they don't starve to death is not raising them! Now you're just doing mental gymnastics. There's an obvious huge difference between doing the bare minimum and being a completely neglectful parent and I'm pretty sure any social worker from CPS would stay on my side. Secondly, Kazuki & Rei's job as foster parents are way avobe the bare minmum when it comes to raising Miri. Providing top of the line roof, clothes and food not to mention basic education at a daycare along with parental attention (even if they slip up occasionally). Rei might be on the lower scale, but still his actions that I pointed in my previous post and you conveniently ignored serve as exemplary evidence of his growing care and raising abilities for Miri. Sigmar-Unberogen said: Kazuki obviously tries the most. No arguing here. When it comes to Rei however, he does the bare minimum of the minimum. In most cases he has to do stuff because Kazuki makes him to tag along or forces him to take care of Miri because he's busy. Rei basically tolerated Miri's existence and since he doesn't hate kids, he isn't repulsed by her or being cruel to her. That's not raising, that's just no different from making sure your buddie's pet doesn't die while they're gone. The three also live in the same freaking apartment after all. It's not like Rei can ignore Miri's existence whenever she "steps in his safe-space". Raising a kid is hardly just feeding them and not neglecting them. Raising a kid goes beyond feeding them and cleaning after them, you have to be a paternal figure for them, to which Miri has a great image of Rei. Going back to episode 7 where Rei does the outmost to nurse Miri back to health, he didn't do it for the sake of saving a pet as your BS paralel argument states, he was quite worried about her health. We can go back to episode 3 when he left Miri on her own and the cops came out. Rei was already off the hook on the parental role, but he came back because Miri told him that "a father is the one that comes to save you", once again, Rei didn't do it because he would be chastized by Kazuki for "losing a pet" as you claim, he did it because it resonated with him and his bitter childhood treated as a "prop" by his own dad, beginning his new life not trying to be like his dad. I'm not saying that at this point Rei becomes the poster boy of a parenting magazine, but it started what it's a long road of being a proper foster parent. Sigmar-Unberogen said: Episode 7 did a good job at showing that Rei cares about Miri. Then again, making sure the kid doesn't die from (hunger/sickness etc) is not the same as Raising. It's obviously "showing care" but not raising. Providing high quality home, food, clothes, payed schoolarship, entertainment, parental attention, health care and even love. Ask any CPS worker and they will tell you this is way above of what they consider as raising a child. Sethispr said: Lmfao people who really dont read the manga and watch the series should just stay away People that use this dumb and childish strawman should stay away from discussion boards, specially if the discussion board is about the anime adaptation, not the source material. This is as asinine and gatekeeping as telling people that go to a movie that they should read the book before even watching it or even talking about it online or with friends. |
KimurahFeb 22, 2023 8:53 AM
Kimurah said: You got to be kidding. You're basically admitting OP foresaw the future and based his argument on events that happened in the future episode. It absolutely doesn't matter if episode 7 solidifies his claim. Is this that hard for you to understand?And your defense was withholding evidence and making an argument that would counter OP's argument which ended up being right. You have no case in this one pal. And how about addressing the actual topic? " The main HUGE difference with Spy x Family is that Miri got two dads that actually love her, and care about her as their own."??? Kimurah said: Yeah, I'm sure any social worker from CPS would commend the parent for not neglecting the kid completely, leading to kid's death. *claps* There's an obvious huge difference between doing the bare minimum and being a completely neglectful parent and I'm pretty sure any social worker from CPS would stay on my side. You didn't answer my question: "Do you consider Miri's mom raised Miri?" Do some basic research on what "raising a child" means. Surprise surprise, feeding the kid, sheltering the kid, clothing the kid is NOT often on the list. That's something that is expected from any parent by default. You can't claim to have raised the kid by doing what's your duty (as a parent) anyways! I didn't "conveniently ignore" your examples. Those "examples" are so poor they weren't even worth quoting, but here, since you think you said something smart: Kimurah said: Since you seem oblivious to the definition, here's the first one I found on google search:Did you even see the smug face of Rei when both of them were stalking Miri in order to give her her lunch box during the zoo visit while Miri was praising Rei papa for being his fav and being the best at Morio Kart. "Raising children does not mean tending to their needs alone. Raising children does not mean just feeding them, and taking them to school, activities and play dates. “Raising” them means lifting them up or elevating them to a higher level – a higher level of thinking, feeling and behaving. That's exactly what I meant with doing bare minimum, and again I'm talking about Rei. AND I'm talking about first 6 episodes ONLY, since 6 episodes are all OP had to base his arguments on. Refusing to admit this is pure dumb stubbornness. Kimurah said: And how does Rei fit in, Jesus??? By refusing to run away when Miri got lost and was about to be taken by cops? Or by playing video games all day? Rei began to resemble an actual parent in episode 7 (and even then he was forced since Kazuki ditched them!!!).Raising a kid goes beyond feeding them and cleaning after them, you have to be a paternal figure for them Again and again OP claimed that Rei, who did the bare minimum in 6 episodes of this show, still showed MORE genuine love and care than Loid and Yor did in 25 episodes of Spy family. I'm not claiming that Rei did absolutely nothing. I'm saying that comparing Rei to Loid and Yor is absolute nonsense! Kimurah said: This is just ridiculous. Rei not being an asshole and a cruel person doesn't mean he's raising Miri! Kazuki and Rei took responsibility for her, it's bare minimum to not abandon a lost little child! You don't get applauds from CPS for this! The scene demonstrates that Rei genuinely cared for Miri there, but this being used as an example of him "raising Miri" is BS.Rei was already off the hook on the parental role, but he came back because Miri told him that "a father is the one that comes to save you" This scene was literally the only one where Rei, without being forced by Kazuki, did something for Miri, on his own. Once again, this single scene is not nearly sufficient enough to claim that Rei cares about Miri more than Loid/Yor did to Anya for the entirety of 2 cours! Kimurah said: You seriously need to wake up. You completely neglected the topic of the thread out of context! OP's comparing Rei and Kazuki with Loid and Yor. For OP to claim that 6 episodes of this show is enough to eclipse Spy family (in regards to genuinely caring for the child) is BS.I'm not saying that at this point Rei becomes the poster boy of a parenting magazine, but it started what it's a long road of being a proper foster parent. |
HagePotPotato said: I never once had this problem with Spy x Family, why would Anya be the only interesting character? Loid is the least interesting, but still pretty cool. Tobirama-Sensei said: buddy daddies parenting has a more sincere and organic beginning. spy x family parenting is obviously more manufactured and forced initially. 100%. but i wouldn't say only buddy daddies cares about the child or that spy x family doesn't care about her at all. the "motivation" for why they become "parents" is the HUGE differenceThe main HUGE difference with Spy x Family is that Miri got two dads that actually love her, and care about her as their own. In Spy x Family, Anya is merely a tool to lead the "big" mission to a success, and most of the actions that Loid does towards Anya are in the sole purpose of her behaving in the "correct" way so the mission doesn't fail. Same goes for Yor that only cares about Anya because she's afraid that Loid will replace her and she'll lose her cover. In Buddy Daddies, Kazuki and Rei got stucked into this parenting figure (they didn't want to adopt a child or something, she just imposed herself in their lives) but they're actually caring about this child and trying to raise her, not using her for any purpose. That's the HUGE difference there are between those two shows. i hope buddy daddies doesn't have the same problem as spy x family though, where the little girl is the ONLY interesting character at all. episodes where she isn't the main focus were really bad, and "part 2" was super boring (i dropped it). based on buddy daddies episode 3 (i've only watched the first 3 so far), i feel like there's a chance for some decent backstories and character development for the two daddies. so maybe it won't bore me as much when the little girl is inevitably not the center of attention for an episode. but we shall see |
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HagePotPotato said: Seems like you completely missed the point, but I didn't expect any better. LostSpectre said: ok?I never once had this problem with Spy x Family LostSpectre said: you would have to ask the manga/anime creator folks that questionwhy would Anya be the only interesting character? |
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