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Jan 31, 2023 8:05 PM
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It's kinda crazy in 2023 that this hasn't been done already. It's extremely annoying to have to share one list between the two mediums. It's impossible to display my top series properly like this. I see the admins constantly changing things no one wants, like reviews or the comments on seiyuus pages, yet this is still not a thing.
Jan 31, 2023 8:25 PM
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Anilist does the same thing. 

And I don't think there's enough push out there for this to become a reality, I also don't really mind the way it is right now. 
Jan 31, 2023 8:27 PM
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MadanielFL said:
Anilist does the same thing. 

And I don't think there's enough push out there for this to become a reality, I also don't really mind the way it is right now. 

Prolly cause LNs are still niche, but it's something that hurts no one and helps a decent amount of people. The code isn't that hard, it's just laziness.
Jan 31, 2023 8:44 PM
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No point in raking it anymore. Plus, I think it's fun to mix spots between manga and light novels. 




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Jan 31, 2023 9:08 PM
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LordSozin said:
No point in raking it anymore. Plus, I think it's fun to mix spots between manga and light novels. 
There's plenty of point in making it. That's good for you, but they are different mediums and should have separate lists.
Jan 31, 2023 11:26 PM
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Anime-Planet has a Webtoon database and Light novel database. For visual novels, there's VNDB.

At least you can search LNs thru 'Top Light Novels' here in MAL or use the 'Advanced Search' by ticking 'Light Novel'. In AniList, you can filter 'Light Novel' as the format when searching or on your manga list. In Anime-Planet, they have tags like 'Light Novel', 'Web Novel' and 'Webtoons' so you can use those to filter your manga list.

Anyways, you can enable 'Type' on your Manga List Settings here in MAL (go to List). Click on the 'Type' tab on your manga list so it can be sorted to 'Manga', 'Light Novel', 'One-shot', 'Doujinshi', 'Manhwa' and 'Manhua'. But the labels are not clickable nor are they searchable on the list's built-in search bar. However, you can always use 'Ctrl+F'.

You can also use the 'Tags' and add Light Novel, LN, Novel or whatever tag you like (especially upon adding something on your list; it'll be easier that way). So when you click that tag you'll have a link with all the LNs in your manga list or you can easily search your list by typing the tag on the search bar or using 'Ctrl+F'. You can also enable 'Notes' and note if an entry is an LN, that way it will display beneath the titles so you'd know whether an entry in your list is an LN or not.
Jan 31, 2023 11:28 PM
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IridescentJaune said:
Anime-Planet has a Webtoon database and Light novel database. For visual novels, there's VNDB.

At least you can search LNs thru 'Top Light Novels' here in MAL or use the 'Advanced Search' by ticking 'Light Novel'. In AniList, you can filter 'Light Novel' as the format when searching or on your manga list. In Anime-Planet, they have tags like 'Light Novel', 'Web Novel' and 'Webtoons' so you can use those to filter your manga list.

Anyways, you can enable 'Type' on your Manga List Settings here in MAL (go to List). Click on the 'Type' tab on your manga list so it can be sorted to 'Manga', 'Light Novel', 'One-shot', 'Doujinshi', 'Manhwa' and 'Manhua'. But the labels are not clickable nor are they searchable on the list's built-in search bar. However, you can always use 'Ctrl+F'.

You can also use the 'Tags' and add Light Novel, LN, Novel or whatever tag you like (especially upon adding something on your list; it'll be easier that way). So when you click that tag you'll have a link with all the LNs in your manga list or you can easily search your list by typing the tag on the search bar or using 'Ctrl+F'. You can also enable 'Notes' and note if an entry is an LN, that way it will display beneath the titles so you'd know whether an entry in your list is an LN or not.

Nice, but you’re mainly talking about filtering your list whereas I’m talking about your display favourites.
Jan 31, 2023 11:46 PM
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Marinate1016 said:
IridescentJaune said:
Anime-Planet has a Webtoon database and Light novel database. For visual novels, there's VNDB.

At least you can search LNs thru 'Top Light Novels' here in MAL or use the 'Advanced Search' by ticking 'Light Novel'. In AniList, you can filter 'Light Novel' as the format when searching or on your manga list. In Anime-Planet, they have tags like 'Light Novel', 'Web Novel' and 'Webtoons' so you can use those to filter your manga list.

Anyways, you can enable 'Type' on your Manga List Settings here in MAL (go to List). Click on the 'Type' tab on your manga list so it can be sorted to 'Manga', 'Light Novel', 'One-shot', 'Doujinshi', 'Manhwa' and 'Manhua'. But the labels are not clickable nor are they searchable on the list's built-in search bar. However, you can always use 'Ctrl+F'.

You can also use the 'Tags' and add Light Novel, LN, Novel or whatever tag you like (especially upon adding something on your list; it'll be easier that way). So when you click that tag you'll have a link with all the LNs in your manga list or you can easily search your list by typing the tag on the search bar or using 'Ctrl+F'. You can also enable 'Notes' and note if an entry is an LN, that way it will display beneath the titles so you'd know whether an entry in your list is an LN or not.

Nice, but you’re mainly talking about filtering your list whereas I’m talking about your display favourites.


Right, "display my top series". Sorry about that...

Well, when you hover over the favorites on the 'Manga' section it'll show whether a favorite is a 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including the publish date and title. On the 'Manga' section of the 'Favorites' page, 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including publish date are shown beneath an entry's title. However, you'd have to arrange it so that the types aren't all over the place. I checked your favorites and it looks like you arranged them so LNs and Manga are somewhat separated. Maybe a toggle similar to the 'Type' toggle in anime and manga lists will do if MAL ain't keen on separating the LNs from the anime and manga sections?

Jan 31, 2023 11:48 PM
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IridescentJaune said:
Marinate1016 said:

Nice, but you’re mainly talking about filtering your list whereas I’m talking about your display favourites.


Right, "display my top series". Sorry about that...

Well, when you hover over the favorites on the 'Manga' section it'll show whether a favorite is a 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including the publish date and title. On the 'Manga' section of the 'Favorites' page, 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including publish date are shown beneath an entry's title. However, you'd have to arrange it so that the types aren't all over the place. I checked your favorites and it looks like you arranged them so LNs and Manga are somewhat separated. Maybe a toggle similar to the 'Type' toggle in anime and manga lists will do if MAL ain't keen on separating the LNs from the anime and manga sections?


I really just don’t see why they wouldn’t separate it or change the title of the faves from “manga” to “reading”
Jan 31, 2023 11:52 PM

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Marinate1016 said:
IridescentJaune said:


Right, "display my top series". Sorry about that...

Well, when you hover over the favorites on the 'Manga' section it'll show whether a favorite is a 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including the publish date and title. On the 'Manga' section of the 'Favorites' page, 'Light Novel' or 'Manga' including publish date are shown beneath an entry's title. However, you'd have to arrange it so that the types aren't all over the place. I checked your favorites and it looks like you arranged them so LNs and Manga are somewhat separated. Maybe a toggle similar to the 'Type' toggle in anime and manga lists will do if MAL ain't keen on separating the LNs from the anime and manga sections?


I really just don’t see why they wouldn’t separate it or change the title of the faves from “manga” to “reading”


How about a script? Maybe someone has a fix for that. Perhaps someone can create a script for that. There were scripts made when the 'Favorites' layout was changed before.
Jan 31, 2023 11:59 PM

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IridescentJaune said:
Marinate1016 said:

I really just don’t see why they wouldn’t separate it or change the title of the faves from “manga” to “reading”


How about a script? Maybe someone has a fix for that. Perhaps someone can create a script for that. There were scripts made when the 'Favorites' layout was changed before.

Yea it should be a really simple thing to do the code is already there. Just copy it and change the header from manga to light novels
Feb 1, 2023 2:13 AM
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It just feels redundant even though they are two different mediums and creating another tab would just dilute this page.
Feb 1, 2023 7:44 AM

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kizumi91 said:
It just feels redundant even though they are two different mediums and creating another tab would just dilute this page.

Dilute the page? It takes up minimal space. Again it’s just laziness and a lack of concern.
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Marinate1016 said:
Dilute the page? It takes up minimal space. Again it’s just laziness and a lack of concern.
Seems like you still haven't conceived the problem here. The Manga tab on this page not only includes general Manga but also light novel, Manhwa, Manhua and some other reading formats, same as the Anime tab which includes both Anime, Donghua, Aeni.

There're only about 1000 light novels whose number of members is bigger than 1000, obviously few people are enamored of this medium. Besides, light novel has its own sub tab under Manga tab that can simply access (https://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?type=lightnovels). I don't see why it should be called laziness or lack of concern. If light novel deserves a separate list, Manhwa and Manhua ought to be so. And that's what I mean when saying dilute the page. Do you want to see your page with 10 Anime on fav list but only 1 in Manga list and 1 in LN list? This just looks tedious at best.
Feb 1, 2023 9:02 AM

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kizumi91 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Dilute the page? It takes up minimal space. Again it’s just laziness and a lack of concern.
Seems like you still haven't conceived the problem here. The Manga tab on this page not only includes general Manga but also light novel, Manhwa, Manhua and some other reading formats, same as the Anime tab which includes both Anime, Donghua, Aeni.

There're only about 1000 light novels whose number of members is bigger than 1000, obviously few people are enamored of this medium. Besides, light novel has its own sub tab under Manga tab that can simply access (https://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?type=lightnovels). I don't see why it should be called laziness or lack of concern. If light novel deserves a separate list, Manhwa and Manhua ought to be so. And that's what I mean when saying dilute the page. Do you want to see your page with 10 Anime on fav list but only 1 in Manga list and 1 in LN list? This just looks tedious at best.

Agree to disagree. We not seeing eye to eye here.
Feb 1, 2023 10:01 AM
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Marinate1016 said:
Agree to disagree. We not seeing eye to eye here.
So finally you do understand the problem. To make a suggestion and have mods listening to you, you should first take into account the whole community's benefit in general. Like in this thread, there're only few people but none seems to agree with your idea at all.
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kizumi91 said:
Marinate1016 said:
Agree to disagree. We not seeing eye to eye here.
So finally you do understand the problem. To make a suggestion and have mods listening to you, you should first take into account the whole community's benefit in general. Like in this thread, there're only few people but none seems to agree with your idea at all.

I don’t understand the problem, I’m just not gonna go back and forth arguing over it. There should be separate lists and that’s my stance. Yours is there shouldn’t be. You’re not changing, I’m not changing so it be what it be. Also dude right above you agreed with me.
Feb 1, 2023 10:09 AM
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Marinate1016 said:
I don’t understand the problem, I’m just not gonna go back and forth arguing over it. There should be separate lists and that’s my stance. Yours is there shouldn’t be. You’re not changing, I’m not changing so it be what it be.
Big words but if you don't listen to people, nobody would listen to you, that's all.

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Also dude right above you agreed with me.
Give me his line, from what I'm seeing he only suggests a script.
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kizumi91 said:
Marinate1016 said:
I don’t understand the problem, I’m just not gonna go back and forth arguing over it. There should be separate lists and that’s my stance. Yours is there shouldn’t be. You’re not changing, I’m not changing so it be what it be.
Big words but if you don't listen to people, nobody would listen to you, that's all.

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Also dude right above you agreed with me.
Give me his line, from what I'm seeing he only suggests a script.

Actually there were no big words, only small ones. Anyway see ya
Feb 1, 2023 10:03 PM

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Nobody forced them to add novels to the database. If they were going to do it anyway, they should have done it properly and not pretended novels are a form of comics.

kizumi91 said:
It just feels redundant even though they are two different mediums and creating another tab would just dilute this page.
Then why do we already have 2 tabs? They can combine manga together with anime if the goal is to have the fewest tabs possible.
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Lucifrost said:
Nobody forced them to add novels to the database. If they were going to do it anyway, they should have done it properly and not pretended novels are a form of comics.

kizumi91 said:
It just feels redundant even though they are two different mediums and creating another tab would just dilute this page.
Then why do we already have 2 tabs? They can combine manga together with anime if the goal is to have the fewest tabs possible.

Thank you. I knew I wasn’t crazy like this really isn’t a difficult ask.
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Lucifrost said:
Nobody forced them to add novels to the database. If they were going to do it anyway, they should have done it properly and not pretended novels are a form of comics.

kizumi91 said:
It just feels redundant even though they are two different mediums and creating another tab would just dilute this page.
Then why do we already have 2 tabs? They can combine manga together with anime if the goal is to have the fewest tabs possible.

Man, I've already explained your concern thoroughly in another post above, just scroll up and read it.
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kizumi91 said:
Lucifrost said:
Then why do we already have 2 tabs? They can combine manga together with anime if the goal is to have the fewest tabs possible.

Man, I've already explained your concern thoroughly in another post above, just scroll up and read it.
I did read your post. I don't see where you explain why anime and manga need separate tabs. Would you care to point that out?
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mal can't even make a dark mode. of course they won't even bother with LNs-Manga separation
Feb 2, 2023 6:53 AM
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Lucifrost said:
I did read your post. I don't see where you explain why anime and manga need separate tabs. Would you care to point that out?

Here's my previous post
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Seems like you still haven't conceived the problem here. The Manga tab on this page not only includes general Manga but also light novel, Manhwa, Manhua and some other reading formats, same as the Anime tab which includes both Anime, Donghua, Aeni.

There're only about 1000 light novels whose number of members is bigger than 1000, obviously few people are enamored of this medium. Besides, light novel has its own sub tab under Manga tab that can simply access (https://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?type=lightnovels). I don't see why it should be called laziness or lack of concern. If light novel deserves a separate list, Manhwa and Manhua ought to be so. And that's what I mean when saying dilute the page. Do you want to see your page with 10 Anime on fav list but only 1 in Manga list and 1 in LN list? This just looks tedious at best.


To sum it up, MAL divides entries into two big sections, one is watching medium (including Anime, Donghua, Aeni) and the second is reading medium (including LN, Manga, Manhua, Manhwa). LN is indeed different from Manga but still isn't enough to make another section only for it. We also have to take into account the fact that the number of Manhua and Manhwa fans is bigger than LN fans. And don't forget that the name of this site is MyAnimeList in the first place. I know some people on this site even suggest removing the Manga section in their fav list because they have no reason to use them.
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kizumi91 said:
I know some people on this site even suggest removing the Manga section in their fav list because they have no reason to use them.
Then they should do that. It wouldn't be any worse than what we have now.
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