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Jul 11, 2022 8:24 AM
#1
| People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:28 AM
#2
| Welcome to the internet. Irony aside, you're right, but at the same time, this happens all the time on every social media platform, it's not like it's a new phenomenon either. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:40 AM
#3
| It's not even something that has to be debated. One person tries to make ask a civil question, and then one dickhead comes along and being a dickhead by simply roasting others and the others simply get triggered. I know it's already an internet things, but it always boggles my mind everytime how people avoid being peaceful. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:42 AM
#4
Playay said: It's not even something that has to be debated. One person tries to make ask a civil question, and then one dickhead comes along and being a dickhead by simply roasting others and the others simply get triggered. I know it's already an internet things, but it always boggles my mind everytime how people avoid being peaceful. Oh yeah sometimes that happens. Let's say me and you are just talking then out of no where someone replies cursing us out. I never had a conversation in public and had someone just walk up to me and call me names just for having an opinion lol that never happens in real life. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:44 AM
#5
| Sure, but considering someone is under no obligation to express their disagreement, they would usually only do so when they want to argue. I don't believe someone would go "hey there, I disagree with you, here's why, but before you respond to me telling you this, let's just agree to disagree and not argue". It is quite annoying when someone will go out of their way to argue with you and when you argue back they go "i WaS jUsT tRyInG tO hAvE a DiScUsSiOn MaN". No you weren't, you were arguing. Changing your mind on the conversation is fine, but it's nice when people acknowledge that's what they're doing and don't pretend like the original intent wasn't to argue. For that reason I give significantly more benefit of the doubt to people I respond to in disagreement (at least until they prove they are not deserving of it) than people that respond to me in disagreement. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:46 AM
#6
| Most discussion will always eventually escalate into a debate or argument, just how it works. More people are inclined to reply to an opinion they disagree with than one they agree with. If it's an opinion I agree with, the most I can do is just reply saying I agree with you. If it's an opinion I disagree with, I can actually write my reasons why I disagree with it. Then that's when shit hits the fan. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:47 AM
#7
_FRB_ said: Sure, but considering someone is under no obligation to express their disagreement, they would usually only do so when they want to argue. I don't believe someone would go "hey there, I disagree with you, here's why, but before you respond to me telling you this, let's just agree to disagree and not argue". It is quite annoying when someone will go out of their way to argue with you and when you argue back they go "i WaS jUsT tRyInG tO hAvE a DiScUsSiOn MaN". No you weren't, you were arguing. Changing your mind on the conversation is fine, but it's nice when people acknowledge that's what they're doing and don't pretend like the original intent wasn't to argue. For that reason I give significantly more benefit of the doubt to people I respond to in disagreement (at least until they prove they are not deserving of it) than people that respond to me in disagreement. I'm pretty gullible and when I disagree I'm not combative in my disagreements I'm actually quite calm and try to express my disagreements as normally as possible. Some people are cool about it though but then some people get mad and curse me out and I'll just be like hey man chill I wasn't trynna argue or sum like that. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:47 AM
#8
| "Yes it is!" I yell at you, disproving your point by arguing with you about things not needing arguments. Ha. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:48 AM
#9
kriissyy12 said: Most discussion will always eventually escalate into a debate or argument, just how it works. More people are inclined to reply to an opinion they disagree with than one they agree with. If it's an opinion I agree with, the most I can do is just reply saying I agree with you. If it's an opinion I disagree with, I can actually write my reasons why I disagree with it. Then that's when shit hits the fan. I think the rise in debate culture also comes from top influencers promoting it and doing it on streams and having public toxic debate's in front of thousands of their viewers. |
Jul 11, 2022 8:50 AM
#10
_FRB_ said: Sure, but considering someone is under no obligation to express their disagreement, they would usually only do so when they want to argue. I don't believe someone would go "hey there, I disagree with you, here's why, but before you respond to me telling you this, let's just agree to disagree and not argue". It is quite annoying when someone will go out of their way to argue with you and when you argue back they go "i WaS jUsT tRyInG tO hAvE a DiScUsSiOn MaN". No you weren't, you were arguing. Changing your mind on the conversation is fine, but it's nice when people acknowledge that's what they're doing and don't pretend like the original intent wasn't to argue. For that reason I give significantly more benefit of the doubt to people I respond to in disagreement (at least until they prove they are not deserving of it) than people that respond to me in disagreement. I also know the people you're talking about. Those are the same people that make threads shitting on popular shows and are obviously being toxic to get a rise out of people. And when you respond they go "it's just my opinion" which it is but there's a difference between calmly explaining why you dislike a show vs being toxic about it |
Jul 11, 2022 9:00 AM
#11
| What? It coule be great if people would at least try to argue. The best they can do sometimes is calling you a troll/toxic or criticizing your taste instead of tackling your point directly. |
Jul 11, 2022 9:05 AM
#12
| The point of discussion is to share information, the point of debate is to determine who has the more correct information. |
Jul 11, 2022 9:21 AM
#13
| With some people, they think that only they can be in the right with their opinions. And as such, they'll try to push their mindset onto others for conformity. |
Jul 11, 2022 9:24 AM
#14
AniMarter said: "Yes it is!" I yell at you, disproving your point by arguing with you about things not needing arguments. Ha. We shall learn to be like annoying brats and argue to our hearts' content! |
Jul 11, 2022 9:27 AM
#15
| thats how anonymity works it does not show facial expressions and tone of voice so people mental picture or imagination of how a text is delivered can be misrepresented a lot of times like their imagination treat your written text as angry in tone for example and as science says the internet is full of anger or hate |
Jul 11, 2022 9:31 AM
#16
DrBalls said: agree it's nothing new. They just never learn that's the issue (i'm one of the victims).Welcome to the internet. Irony aside, you're right, but at the same time, this happens all the time on every social media platform, it's not like it's a new phenomenon either. |
Jul 11, 2022 10:08 AM
#17
| I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? |
| その目だれの目? |
Jul 11, 2022 10:16 AM
#18
Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? I haven't received one of those angry pms yet lol maybe one day when I plan on writing a review I might get some angry pms depending on if that review is negative or not |
Jul 11, 2022 10:33 AM
#19
| Yeah, but that's not exclusive to this site anyways. |
Jul 11, 2022 10:37 AM
#20
Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? |
Jul 11, 2022 10:38 AM
#21
-Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people |
Jul 11, 2022 10:44 AM
#22
Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. |
Jul 11, 2022 10:46 AM
#23
-Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. |
Jul 11, 2022 10:52 AM
#24
Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? |
Jul 11, 2022 10:56 AM
#25
-Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? No I don't lol I don't think I need an example tho I mean I'm just talking about people being cool in comments and not arguing. |
Jul 11, 2022 10:57 AM
#26
Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? No I don't lol I don't think I need an example tho I mean I'm just talking about people being cool in comments and not arguing. Want to sing happy songs with me around the fire? |
Jul 11, 2022 11:00 AM
#27
| When someone disagrees with someone it's their innate desire to feel validated about their 'correct' opinion and that's where a debate arises. They point out what they feel is total bullshit and try their best to be at complete odds with you. It is what it is. I like to vibe so I don't fuck with these bitches. (not all of them of course, debates are great, I'm talking about the people who are persistent in arguing and become defensive and shit) |
Jul 11, 2022 11:06 AM
#28
Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? MAL is gradually becoming a war zone because of toxic people that can't respect others' opinions. It's pretty unfortunate. |
| "No one hates anime more than the anime community, which is composed of some of the most spoiled, immature, pessimist and ungrateful people on Earth." -Anonymous anime watcher |
Jul 11, 2022 11:07 AM
#29
-Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? No I don't lol I don't think I need an example tho I mean I'm just talking about people being cool in comments and not arguing. Want to sing happy songs with me around the fire? Yeah it would be nice over yelling at each other and starting a fire. |
Jul 11, 2022 11:11 AM
#30
Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? No I don't lol I don't think I need an example tho I mean I'm just talking about people being cool in comments and not arguing. Want to sing happy songs with me around the fire? Yeah it would be nice over yelling at each other and starting a fire. Let's have a debate about what songs we're going to sing and how big the fire's going to be. >:) |
Jul 11, 2022 11:12 AM
#31
| This is a post i completely agree with...but i think there're only a few people who get into fights over different opinions and i dislike that... |
Jul 11, 2022 11:15 AM
#32
-Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: -Kokomi- said: Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Someone's like: "It was absolutely garbage - the most worthless thing I've ever experienced. I can't believe anyone enjoyed it. They must be 20 IQ idiots. Mid trash, completely filler. Protag is cardboard." Is this a civil discussion? I'm obviously not talking about those people I could handle someone criticizing my favorite shows in a thoughtful way. But what I typed there is just annoying nonsense. I hear you but I'm not talking about those people. People that do that are just trolls and I don't support that either. Even with shows I don't like when I see people make threads like that I hate it. Because they're senselessly trying to start arguments for no reason. Do you have a specific example of what you're talking about? I'm having trouble with it. Like maybe there's a thread somewhere? No I don't lol I don't think I need an example tho I mean I'm just talking about people being cool in comments and not arguing. Want to sing happy songs with me around the fire? Yeah it would be nice over yelling at each other and starting a fire. Let's have a debate about what songs we're going to sing and how big the fire's going to be. >:) The song were singing around the fire is the ending song to anohana and I don't wanna hear any other options. |
Jul 11, 2022 11:16 AM
#33
| Even though I completely agree, there is nothing I can do about it. We all have opinions but we dont have respect. Usually the arguments escalate to just low insults. People dont actually argue to criticize, they argue to make the other person look bad and they argue to diss the other series. |
Jul 11, 2022 11:20 AM
#34
FZREMAKE said: Even though I completely agree, there is nothing I can do about it. We all have opinions but we dont have respect. Usually the arguments escalate to just low insults. People dont actually argue to criticize, they argue to make the other person look bad and they argue to diss the other series. It's like they're flag-waving for their group and that's it. |
Jul 11, 2022 11:52 AM
#35
| Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. |
RobertBobertJul 11, 2022 12:02 PM
Jul 11, 2022 12:06 PM
#36
RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:12 PM
#37
Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. In this case, learn to read the atmosphere. The more I tried to argue with you somehow, the more you became passionate and at some point I just wrote you a short phrase as an attempt to close the discussion. What did you do in response? You wrote me a big messy argument with a lot of random, unnecessary or misunderstood information, suggesting that I re-enter the dispute and spend time parsing all this information. Obviously I exploded. And despite trying to look like a peacekeeper at the moment, you don’t even try to understand my reasons, directly accusing me and throwing your opinion as fact. It's weird to expect people to have a civilized discussion when you yourself are leading the discussion like a "never my fault" guy. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:16 PM
#38
RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. In this case, learn to read the atmosphere. The more I tried to argue with you somehow, the more you became passionate and at some point I just wrote you a short phrase as an attempt to close the discussion. What did you do in response? They wrote me a big messy argument with a lot of random, unnecessary or misunderstood information, suggesting that I re-enter the dispute and spend time parsing all this information. Obviously I exploded. And despite trying to look like a peacekeeper at the moment, you don’t even try to understand my reasons, directly accusing me and throwing your opinion as fact. If you want people to have a civil discussion with you, you must first learn to do it. I mean you're just making it to seem like something it's not when you're the one that initiated an argument for no reason. If you go Pokemon is a game anime and I ever so calmly go well not really because of this and that and use examples how is that arguing and not having a civil discussion? People could go and look at it and see you exploded for no reason. People actually responded and we're on my side with it too that you exploded out of no where. And you argue with people frequently in threads so this isn't new. And you're starting another argument right now lol but I'm not gunna argue with you I'm done here. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:16 PM
#39
| I agree, However, regardless on which forum/website you are, debates/arguments are all over the internet these days |
Jul 11, 2022 12:20 PM
#40
Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. In this case, learn to read the atmosphere. The more I tried to argue with you somehow, the more you became passionate and at some point I just wrote you a short phrase as an attempt to close the discussion. What did you do in response? They wrote me a big messy argument with a lot of random, unnecessary or misunderstood information, suggesting that I re-enter the dispute and spend time parsing all this information. Obviously I exploded. And despite trying to look like a peacekeeper at the moment, you don’t even try to understand my reasons, directly accusing me and throwing your opinion as fact. If you want people to have a civil discussion with you, you must first learn to do it. I mean you're just making it to seem like something it's not when you're the one that initiated an argument for no reason. If you go Pokemon is a game anime and I ever so calmly go well not really because of this and that and use examples how is that arguing and not having a civil discussion? People could go and look at it and see you exploded for no reason. People actually responded and we're on my side with it too that you exploded out of no where. And you argue with people frequently in threads so this isn't new. And you're starting another argument right now lol but I'm not gunna argue with you I'm done here. You see? You get passionate again and stubbornly insist on being right, each time heightening your emotions, this time adding "people agreed with me" (ignoring of course that these "people" were my old opponents who used you to provoke a reaction on my part) and so on. You literally escalate the conflict instead of trying to keep some kind of civilized discussion. And of course, you don't care at all about what I told you in response earlier. You passionately want to prove that you are right. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:22 PM
#41
RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. In this case, learn to read the atmosphere. The more I tried to argue with you somehow, the more you became passionate and at some point I just wrote you a short phrase as an attempt to close the discussion. What did you do in response? They wrote me a big messy argument with a lot of random, unnecessary or misunderstood information, suggesting that I re-enter the dispute and spend time parsing all this information. Obviously I exploded. And despite trying to look like a peacekeeper at the moment, you don’t even try to understand my reasons, directly accusing me and throwing your opinion as fact. If you want people to have a civil discussion with you, you must first learn to do it. I mean you're just making it to seem like something it's not when you're the one that initiated an argument for no reason. If you go Pokemon is a game anime and I ever so calmly go well not really because of this and that and use examples how is that arguing and not having a civil discussion? People could go and look at it and see you exploded for no reason. People actually responded and we're on my side with it too that you exploded out of no where. And you argue with people frequently in threads so this isn't new. And you're starting another argument right now lol but I'm not gunna argue with you I'm done here. You see? You get passionate again and stubbornly insist on being right, each time heightening your emotions, this time adding "people agreed with me" (ignoring of course that these "people" were my old opponents who used you to provoke a reaction on my part) and so on. You literally escalate the conflict instead of trying to keep some kind of civilized discussion. And of course, you don't care at all about what I told you in response earlier. You passionately want to prove that you are right. I'm not passionate dude I'm chilling lol and they're not opponents this isn't a street fighter game those are other people you went at for no reason as well no one is escalating anything. But this is the last response you'll ever get from me ever again bc you love arguing with people on here. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:22 PM
#42
| Does anyone know how to block people on mal? |
Jul 11, 2022 12:28 PM
#43
Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Kasutoro-Kun said: RobertBobert said: Many people have a too fragile ego, so any disagreement is perceived by them as a bait to continue the argument. To such an extent that people will even passionately persecute and provoke you in order to rehabilitate themselves in their eyes by causing a new conflict. Lucifrost said: I've lately been seeing a lot more anime arguments than usual, and I have no idea why. Someone who publicly claimed to hate arguing even tried to continue an argument via PM. Do we now celebrate wrath month after pride month? No one tried to continue the dispute with you via PM. I just asked you why you literally within one day tried to turn several of our dialogues into casuistic disputes. Especially in combination with the fact that you were previously adequate and I have never seen such obsessive behavior from you. It was so intrusive that it seemed to me as if you were deliberately looking for an excuse to provoke a conflict. Kasutoro-Kun said: People need to learn this on this website. I can't count how many times me and other people try to have civil discussions about anime and they try to turn it into a fight and a debate simply because the two parties disagree. We could disagree and not argue with each other. There's nothing wrong with have differing opinions as long as the conversation is kept civil and there's no name calling. Well, it's hard to keep the dialogue civil when you're obsessively continuing the dialogue even when your opponent starts hinting that he's tired of you. Especially when at some point your comments become more and more passionate and messy. It's annoying and very emotionally exhausting, regardless of your intentions. At no point did you ever hint at being tired of anything. I wasn't even talking to you at first. It was a Convo I was having with someone else and you jumped in out of no where and I simply responded. It wasn't no argument or debate on my end and throughout the conversation you seemed pretty normal. It wasn't until the end you exploded with insults out of no where. I don't know why it's so hard to keep a civil conversation just from someone saying "Pokemon isn't a game anime" there was literally no reason for you to explode the way you did. You just did for no reason. You also exploded at other people in the comments too. In this case, learn to read the atmosphere. The more I tried to argue with you somehow, the more you became passionate and at some point I just wrote you a short phrase as an attempt to close the discussion. What did you do in response? They wrote me a big messy argument with a lot of random, unnecessary or misunderstood information, suggesting that I re-enter the dispute and spend time parsing all this information. Obviously I exploded. And despite trying to look like a peacekeeper at the moment, you don’t even try to understand my reasons, directly accusing me and throwing your opinion as fact. If you want people to have a civil discussion with you, you must first learn to do it. I mean you're just making it to seem like something it's not when you're the one that initiated an argument for no reason. If you go Pokemon is a game anime and I ever so calmly go well not really because of this and that and use examples how is that arguing and not having a civil discussion? People could go and look at it and see you exploded for no reason. People actually responded and we're on my side with it too that you exploded out of no where. And you argue with people frequently in threads so this isn't new. And you're starting another argument right now lol but I'm not gunna argue with you I'm done here. You see? You get passionate again and stubbornly insist on being right, each time heightening your emotions, this time adding "people agreed with me" (ignoring of course that these "people" were my old opponents who used you to provoke a reaction on my part) and so on. You literally escalate the conflict instead of trying to keep some kind of civilized discussion. And of course, you don't care at all about what I told you in response earlier. You passionately want to prove that you are right. I'm not passionate dude I'm chilling lol and they're not opponents this isn't a street fighter game those are other people you went at for no reason as well no one is escalating anything. But this is the last response you'll ever get from me ever again bc you love arguing with people on here. Your comment proves otherwise. Even trying to ignorantly deny my history of conflicts with these people, you still continue to build your position on the accusations against me. Even your attempt to stop this is framed as an accusation against me. It is impossible to resolve the conflict by demonstratively insisting that you the only right before the other side. |
Jul 11, 2022 12:29 PM
#44
Kasutoro-Kun said: Does anyone know how to block people on mal? In the forum settings and security settings. |
Jul 11, 2022 5:33 PM
#45
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