Hange's Argument in a Nutshell

LordSozin said:
Hange and others who are going against Eren are the most surface level reasons to be. But this also shows Isayama was either forced this type of ending or he genuinely didn’t know how to write this point forward. To which, I refuse to believe.

VeryGhoul said:
We’ve reached the point where you need to have a 5 page argument to say that slaughtering the entire world is actually not good. What the fuck is wrong with the Eren simps

TheFounder131 said:
Agreed, genocide is wrong? ok, but you are going help those people who were abt to genocide you.
The dialogues could have been better written. Hange here was acting like an Karen, you can't argue with logical point so you shout to stfu him who was actually giving logical points.

Check this out:- https://twitter.com/saintitchief/status/1500960000268771337?t=Lza9xlCq3r6pePYpglfvUg&s=19
I lowkey think this way better worded than Whatever hange said In that ep.

certifiedbinger said:
People are split on this one even worse than usual. Pro-genociders are naturally pissed off because she's just flat out rejecting it without considering any other alternatives for the future.
And even the people who ARE against the Rumbling feel like this is a 'No shit, Sherlock' moment. Such an in-your-face dialogue was out of place.

racers551 said:

Are you seriously giving evidence from the guy who literally said the Nazis were, in their view, justified?

nf58k said:
This is a bad comparison and here's why:
1. No one is arguing in favour of global warming
2. Genocide is objectively worse than global warming
3. Both statements are actually 100% correct so what's your point, really?

racers551 said:

Not to mention, none of the guys would have supported a genocide to protect their homeland.

ChildEmperor_ said:

That's the point it's wrong she (Hange) was stating the obvious so people are trolling her in a way
smh

VeryGhoul said:
We’ve reached the point where you need to have a 5 page argument to say that slaughtering the entire world is actually not good. What the fuck is wrong with the Eren simps

PresE2PayRespect said:

So if the Rumbling is stopped and Eldia still gets destroyed, would you still think Hanje was right?

VeryGhoul said:
but eldia doesn’t get destroyed. I think I understand the hate for the ending. Ya all edgelords are salty because Eren didn’t destroy the world. I can’t fucking understand how exactly can you possibly justify the massacre of billions of innocents. Eren literally proves to the world that eldians are devils and must be exterminated

LordSozin said:
Hange and others who are going against Eren are the most surface level reasons to be. But this also shows Isayama was either forced this type of ending or he genuinely didn’t know how to write this point forward. To which, I refuse to believe.

Fuhrer_Wrath said:
I feel like you're the kind of guy that justifies Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

I mean by your logic. It's just a little invasion and forceful annexation.
Nothing to get your panties in a twist over, right.

kension said:


Isayama be like: "I already spent my energy making Gabi looks good, I am outta juice for Hange's speech..."

Nitroade24h said:
I do not understand why so many people in the aot fandom cannot fathom somebody disagreeing with mass genocide.
Yes, that’s her argument in a nutshell, and that’s because her conscience outweighs her strive for freedom and she will not commit atrocities for the sake of freedom.

cockandballs6915 said:

Are you really so brain dead that you think supporting a made up character in a made up series is somehow the equivalent of supporting actual war crimes

Fuhrer_Wrath said:


No, but that's not what the OP did.
You can support Eren all you want.
But saying that bieng against Genocide for the simple reason that it's wrong is akin to bieng against global warming is a bit more than just supporting a fictional character.

The OP is not saying that he disagrees with Hange. Which absolutely fine.
He is implying that the opinion of Hange( and by consequence those who agree with her) is fundamentally wrong, by comparing it with a real world issue and implying that Hange wanting to stop Eren's genocide is as useless and morally equivalent to people trying to stop global warming .

So as a result I also have the right to compare OP's opinion with a real life example.(Something the OP did first).
That the people who justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Yeagerists who justify Eren's actions(both in and out of the story) have oddly similar arguments.

Fuhrer_Wrath said:

So as a result I also have the right to compare OP's opinion with a real life example.(Something the OP did first).
That the people who justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Yeagerists who justify Eren's actions(both in and out of the story) have oddly similar arguments.

rach1m4n said:


Sorry pal but ever you see such conflicts in literal political viewpoint? Let's use streets logic instead of sheets logic. Everyone did the same if we talking about semi politic-militaristic doings. Turkiya Al-Fatat with 1915 genocide, Russia with Bolse-Manshe conflict, USA bombing Hiroshima-Nagasaki, Nanking, Palestine-Israel, Yugoslavia etc etc everything done with planned killing, it's always purposed to begin with. Those fella who "justify" the actions of Yeagerist just simply being real that these things are just fucking common, as long there's a country or someone who feel theyre white knight or something. It's just matter of perspective and everyone literally the same.

PresE2PayRespect said:
Then that's a shit comparison.

Russia wasn't under any direct threat being completely wiped out. Paradis was.

Russia wasn't terrorized by hundreds of years by it's neighbor. Paradis was.

AoT's "politics" and dubbed "world-building" are rather lacking to compare to real life.