season 2??

Mar 8, 2022 4:27 AM

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i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Mar 8, 2022 4:59 AM

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-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Crunchyroll viewership doesnt decide anything lol. The series needs to sell well on blu rays, dvds and merch in order to get a sequel, if the sales aren't good then the viewership doesn't matter as the studio doesn't profit from tv broadcasts nor foreign streaming sites like Crunchyroll, that money goes to the production committee.

Mar 8, 2022 5:00 AM

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Well no news on the sales yet, doesn't seem to be very popular in japan either, but you never know. In terms of source material, there's enough for at least 2 more seasons.

Mar 8, 2022 5:14 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Crunchyroll viewership doesnt decide anything lol. The series needs to sell well on blu rays, dvds and merch in order to get a sequel, if the sales aren't good then the viewership doesn't matter as the studio doesn't profit from tv broadcasts nor foreign streaming sites like Crunchyroll, that money goes to the production committee.

you’re literally so wrong with that. blu ray sales and merch sales dont even matter anymore like 15 years ago. just compare attack on titan season 1 and attack on titan season 2 disc sales. season disc sales severely dropped and yet it got season 3, season 4.
crunchyroll viewership matters alot because it shows how much demand is for it oversees. just look how bad to your eternity and tokyo revengers discs sold and yet both got second seasons. hell you can make the argument that the manga was pushed a lot in tokyo revengers’ case but for to your eternity you cant cause the manga wasnt boosted at all, disc sales probably sucked, so to your eternity only had the anime’s gained popularity to back up.

its not like 10-15 years ago nowadays where disc sales literally meant everything. i actually can’t believe people still believe that nowadays.

Mar 8, 2022 5:22 AM

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-Elevate- said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

Crunchyroll viewership doesnt decide anything lol. The series needs to sell well on blu rays, dvds and merch in order to get a sequel, if the sales aren't good then the viewership doesn't matter as the studio doesn't profit from tv broadcasts nor foreign streaming sites like Crunchyroll, that money goes to the production committee.

you’re literally so wrong with that. blu ray sales and merch sales dont even matter anymore like 15 years ago. just compare attack on titan season 1 and attack on titan season 2 disc sales. season disc sales severely dropped and yet it got season 3, season 4.
crunchyroll viewership matters alot because it shows how much demand is for it oversees. just look how bad to your eternity and tokyo revengers discs sold and yet both got second seasons. hell you can make the argument that the manga was pushed a lot in tokyo revengers’ case but for to your eternity you cant cause the manga wasnt boosted at all, disc sales probably sucked, so to your eternity only had the anime’s gained popularity to back up.

its not like 10-15 years ago nowadays where disc sales literally meant everything. i actually can’t believe people still believe that nowadays.

Most studios have admitted that they don't take the opinion of foreigners into consideration while making anime, why wouldn't they if worldwide viewership matters so much? Why aren't they trying to expand their industry if that's the case? By that logic, japanese sales wouldn't even matter anymore and they'd just focus on worldwide viewership, which again they aren't doing. Also a lot of anime that get sequels have had their sequels in pre production from the start, a lot of committees nowadays decide on making sequels beforehand, regardless of how well the first season does.

Mar 8, 2022 5:31 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:

you’re literally so wrong with that. blu ray sales and merch sales dont even matter anymore like 15 years ago. just compare attack on titan season 1 and attack on titan season 2 disc sales. season disc sales severely dropped and yet it got season 3, season 4.
crunchyroll viewership matters alot because it shows how much demand is for it oversees. just look how bad to your eternity and tokyo revengers discs sold and yet both got second seasons. hell you can make the argument that the manga was pushed a lot in tokyo revengers’ case but for to your eternity you cant cause the manga wasnt boosted at all, disc sales probably sucked, so to your eternity only had the anime’s gained popularity to back up.

its not like 10-15 years ago nowadays where disc sales literally meant everything. i actually can’t believe people still believe that nowadays.

Most studios have admitted that they don't take the opinion of foreigners into consideration while making anime, why wouldn't they if worldwide viewership matters so much? Why aren't they trying to expand their industry if that's the case? By that logic, japanese sales wouldn't even matter anymore and they'd just focus on worldwide viewership, which again they aren't doing. Also a lot of anime that get sequels have had their sequels in pre production from the start, a lot of committees nowadays decide on making sequels beforehand, regardless of how well the first season does.

i’d suggest you to follow news outlets such as anime news networks and follow their interviews with industry people. but you won’t do that.
pretty sure in tokyo revengers’ case there is no way they had season 2 already in pre production while season 1 was going on because season 1 already suffered from rough schedule due to it being a 2 cour and poorly planned as it seems like seeing how rough the animation was at times. yeah in to your eternity’s case you could say it’s all nhk’s magic going into it but i’m pretty sure the company who orders the studio to make the anime didn’t expect the popularity it would get oversees and thus greenlitted a season 2 soon after. honestly overall anime has become more a corporate worldwide thing in recent years rather than just being strictly made for japanese audience because a lot of new anime that has been coming out is literally more tailored to the western audiences. for example seeing how many isekais have been coming out.

Mar 8, 2022 5:33 AM

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-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Popularity in crunchyroll doesn't matter to be honest

Mar 8, 2022 5:41 AM

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-Elevate- said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

Most studios have admitted that they don't take the opinion of foreigners into consideration while making anime, why wouldn't they if worldwide viewership matters so much? Why aren't they trying to expand their industry if that's the case? By that logic, japanese sales wouldn't even matter anymore and they'd just focus on worldwide viewership, which again they aren't doing. Also a lot of anime that get sequels have had their sequels in pre production from the start, a lot of committees nowadays decide on making sequels beforehand, regardless of how well the first season does.

i’d suggest you to follow news outlets such as anime news networks and follow their interviews with industry people. but you won’t do that.
pretty sure in tokyo revengers’ case there is no way they had season 2 already in pre production while season 1 was going on because season 1 already suffered from rough schedule due to it being a 2 cour and poorly planned as it seems like seeing how rough the animation was at times. yeah in to your eternity’s case you could say it’s all nhk’s magic going into it but i’m pretty sure the company who orders the studio to make the anime didn’t expect the popularity it would get oversees and thus greenlitted a season 2 soon after. honestly overall anime has become more a corporate worldwide thing in recent years rather than just being strictly made for japanese audience because a lot of new anime that has been coming out is literally more tailored to the western audiences. for example seeing how many isekais have been coming out.

Blu ray, dvd and merch sales are always being given importance by both japanese and western audiences, that wouldn't be the case if these sales didn't matter. The only japanese manga/anime company I know that is expanding for western audiences is Kadokawa, the rest aren't even trying. Most anime fans, pirate anime, Crunchyroll viewership and profit is nowhere near big enough to carry the industry. I have followed some interviews, and all of them led me to believe the same thing, the anime industry does not care one bit for western fans.

Mar 8, 2022 5:47 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:

i’d suggest you to follow news outlets such as anime news networks and follow their interviews with industry people. but you won’t do that.
pretty sure in tokyo revengers’ case there is no way they had season 2 already in pre production while season 1 was going on because season 1 already suffered from rough schedule due to it being a 2 cour and poorly planned as it seems like seeing how rough the animation was at times. yeah in to your eternity’s case you could say it’s all nhk’s magic going into it but i’m pretty sure the company who orders the studio to make the anime didn’t expect the popularity it would get oversees and thus greenlitted a season 2 soon after. honestly overall anime has become more a corporate worldwide thing in recent years rather than just being strictly made for japanese audience because a lot of new anime that has been coming out is literally more tailored to the western audiences. for example seeing how many isekais have been coming out.

Blu ray, dvd and merch sales are always being given importance by both japanese and western audiences, that wouldn't be the case if these sales didn't matter. The only japanese manga/anime company I know that is expanding for western audiences is Kadokawa, the rest aren't even trying. Most anime fans, pirate anime, Crunchyroll viewership and profit is nowhere near big enough to carry the industry. I have followed some interviews, and all of them led me to believe the same thing, the anime industry does not care one bit for western fans.

there is literally no point in arguing with you any more than i already did i’ve tried so hard to get my point across but i’m just gonna leave it. if you really think crunchyroll viewership doesnt matter you’re just being ignorant. more so people who pirate anime that are on crunchyroll or other streaming sites dont matter. on top of all i said i would have liked to link evidences but you’re literally not worth the effort. it’s literally like i’m talking to a wall.

Mar 8, 2022 5:50 AM

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-Elevate- said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Crunchyroll viewership doesnt decide anything lol. The series needs to sell well on blu rays, dvds and merch in order to get a sequel, if the sales aren't good then the viewership doesn't matter as the studio doesn't profit from tv broadcasts nor foreign streaming sites like Crunchyroll, that money goes to the production committee.

you’re literally so wrong with that. blu ray sales and merch sales dont even matter anymore like 15 years ago. just compare attack on titan season 1 and attack on titan season 2 disc sales. season disc sales severely dropped and yet it got season 3, season 4.
crunchyroll viewership matters alot because it shows how much demand is for it oversees. just look how bad to your eternity and tokyo revengers discs sold and yet both got second seasons. hell you can make the argument that the manga was pushed a lot in tokyo revengers’ case but for to your eternity you cant cause the manga wasnt boosted at all, disc sales probably sucked, so to your eternity only had the anime’s gained popularity to back up.

its not like 10-15 years ago nowadays where disc sales literally meant everything. i actually can’t believe people still believe that nowadays.

Most studios have admitted that they don't take the opinion of foreigners into consideration while making anime, why wouldn't they if worldwide viewership matters so much? Why aren't they trying to expand their industry if that's the case? By that logic, japanese sales wouldn't even matter anymore and they'd just focus on worldwide viewership, which again they aren't doing. Also a lot of anime that get sequels have had their sequels in pre production from the start, a lot of committees nowadays decide on making sequels beforehand, regardless of how well the first season does.

i’d suggest you to follow news outlets such as anime news networks and follow their interviews with industry people. but you won’t do that.
pretty sure in tokyo revengers’ case there is no way they had season 2 already in pre production while season 1 was going on because season 1 already suffered from rough schedule due to it being a 2 cour and poorly planned as it seems like seeing how rough the animation was at times. yeah in to your eternity’s case you could say it’s all nhk’s magic going into it but i’m pretty sure the company who orders the studio to make the anime didn’t expect the popularity it would get oversees and thus greenlitted a season 2 soon after. honestly overall anime has become more a corporate worldwide thing in recent years rather than just being strictly made for japanese audience because a lot of new anime that has been coming out is literally more tailored to the western audiences. for example seeing how many isekais have been coming out.

Blu ray, dvd and merch sales are always being given importance by both japanese and western audiences, that wouldn't be the case if these sales didn't matter. The only japanese manga/anime company I know that is expanding for western audiences is Kadokawa, the rest aren't even trying. Most anime fans, pirate anime, Crunchyroll viewership and profit is nowhere near big enough to carry the industry. I have followed some interviews, and all of them led me to believe the same thing, the anime industry does not care one bit for western fans.

there is literally no point in arguing with you i’ve tried so hard to get my point across but i’m just gonna leave it. if you really think crunchyroll viewership doesnt matter you’re just being ignorant. more so people who pirate anime that are on crunchyroll or other streaming sites dont matter. on top of all i said i would have liked to link evidences but you’re literally not worth the effort. it’s literally like i’m talking to a wall.

You never even gave any proof to support your claim but ok.

Mar 8, 2022 6:14 AM

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This was a very simple question and I don’t know why the need to be hostile arose out of it y’all.

The source material of the show had a very small Western audience before the anime’s conception due to there not being an official English version published beforehand.

However (and I’m going off assumption here correct me if I’m wrong) there must have been some popularity in Japan and/or other countries for there to warrant an adaptation.

Based on this, my guess is that Japanese reception is going to be the most important, as the stats from the country of origin are always the most important (if an American indie television show did poorly in America but great in an eastern country, America probably wouldn’t continue it)

Foreign interest helps but isn’t the end all be all.

That’s my understanding anyway I apologize for rambling I just hate seeing fighting and hostility over a really great show.

Mar 8, 2022 9:52 AM

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Bruh how tf this convo get so hostile? All things aside decent chance it may get a season 2 but it depend on how the sales and ratings are in Japan, I’m hoping for a s2 tho, I’d like to see more of the gang, especially Pawoo :3 she’s probably my fav character so far

Mar 8, 2022 9:55 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:
Well no news on the sales yet, doesn't seem to be very popular in japan either, but you never know. In terms of source material, there's enough for at least 2 more seasons.

arent there like 7 more ln volumes out rn and season 1 only adapts the first volume

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Mar 8, 2022 10:13 AM

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arcast said:

BerserkerArmorr said:
Well no news on the sales yet, doesn't seem to be very popular in japan either, but you never know. In terms of source material, there's enough for at least 2 more seasons.

arent there like 7 more ln volumes out rn and season 1 only adapts the first volume

I believe they won't keep adapting the rest this faithfully in the upcoming seasons. Anime adaptations of light novels never end up being too consistent when it comes to pacing. There are 8 volumes now.

Mar 8, 2022 11:15 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:
Well no news on the sales yet, doesn't seem to be very popular in japan either, but you never know. In terms of source material, there's enough for at least 2 more seasons.

this isn't 2005 no one even owns a DVD player anymore it's about streams

Mar 8, 2022 11:21 AM

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Kasutoro-Kun said:

BerserkerArmorr said:
Well no news on the sales yet, doesn't seem to be very popular in japan either, but you never know. In terms of source material, there's enough for at least 2 more seasons.

this isn't 2005 no one even owns a DVD player anymore it's about streams

A simple google search will show you that the japanese have yet to move on from dvds and blu rays.

Mar 8, 2022 11:24 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

Kasutoro-Kun said:

this isn't 2005 no one even owns a DVD player anymore it's about streams

A simple google search will show you that the japanese have yet to move on from dvds and blu rays.

A simple Google search will show you that there's been plenty of anime that havent done too good in DVD sales and still get a second season. The guy gave you an example attack on Titan. Another example would be bleach who did great DVD sales but still got cancelled and is just now limping back making it's return.

Mar 8, 2022 11:34 AM

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Mar 8, 2022 11:36 AM

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Kasutoro-Kun said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

A simple google search will show you that the japanese have yet to move on from dvds and blu rays.

A simple Google search will show you that there's been plenty of anime that havent done too good in DVD sales and still get a second season. The guy gave you an example attack on Titan. Another example would be bleach who did great DVD sales but still got cancelled and is just now limping back making it's return.

The production committee gives the studios the green light to make more seasons of a series. Then the studio accepts or declines based on many factors. The production committee decides the budget and all other aspects of the production. In a lot of cases, an anime is simply a promotional project for the source material, and it'll get more seasons, based on the general demand for the series as a whole, source material included. That is why, many series that do badly on sales, get more seasons. But again, my original point was, that the studio itself does not profit from streaming, even in cases when it's part of the production committee, it'll only get a very small portion.

Mar 8, 2022 11:39 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

Kasutoro-Kun said:

A simple Google search will show you that there's been plenty of anime that havent done too good in DVD sales and still get a second season. The guy gave you an example attack on Titan. Another example would be bleach who did great DVD sales but still got cancelled and is just now limping back making it's return.

The production committee gives the studios the green light to make more seasons of a series. Then the studio accepts or declines based on many factors. The production committee decides the budget and all other aspects of the production. In a lot of cases, an anime is simply a promotional project for the source material, and it'll get more seasons, based on the general demand for the series as a whole, source material included. That is why, many series that do badly on sales, get more seasons. But again, my original point was, that the studio itself does not profit from streaming, even in cases when it's part of the production committee, it'll only get a small portion.

So you admit when it comes to making another season of a series it's all on the decision of the higher ups and have nothing to do with DVD sales? Because we've seen series who don't do hot in DVD sales still get second seasons? So you admit that right? And I know it's a great source of revenue because otakus mainly but DVDs as like a way to support the show and add to their little anime collection. But in terms of it being a determining factor on whether or not it gets a second third or fourth season DVD sales aren't the end all be all on that decision.

Mar 8, 2022 11:40 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

Kasutoro-Kun said:

this isn't 2005 no one even owns a DVD player anymore it's about streams

A simple google search will show you that the japanese have yet to move on from dvds and blu rays.

barely anyone in japan buys any discs anymore these days. japan knows themselves better than anyone that disc sales are declining in their own country and more importantly all over the world. these days barely anyone buys blu rays.
it’s all about streaming now.

Mar 8, 2022 11:41 AM

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Kasutoro-Kun said:

BerserkerArmorr said:

The production committee gives the studios the green light to make more seasons of a series. Then the studio accepts or declines based on many factors. The production committee decides the budget and all other aspects of the production. In a lot of cases, an anime is simply a promotional project for the source material, and it'll get more seasons, based on the general demand for the series as a whole, source material included. That is why, many series that do badly on sales, get more seasons. But again, my original point was, that the studio itself does not profit from streaming, even in cases when it's part of the production committee, it'll only get a small portion.

So you admit when it comes to making another season of a series it's all on the decision of the higher ups and have nothing to do with DVD sales? Because we've seen series who don't do hot in DVD sales still get second seasons? So you admit that right? And I know it's a great source of revenue because otakus mainly but DVDs as like a way to support the show and add to their little anime collection. But in terms of it being a determining factor on whether or not it gets a second third or fourth season DVD sales aren't the end all be all on that decision.

Yes I do admit that I was wrong on that part. I had to fact check some stuff after the previous discussion.

Mar 8, 2022 3:52 PM

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I do hope so! It's one of my favorite animes!

Mar 8, 2022 11:41 PM

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why are you asking source material readers if there is season 2? lol like if there is enough material for season 2? obviously there is

but sequels depends on popularity or profit the show generates

and this days it depends on how much LEGAL streaming profit a show makes, especially how much a show is doing in China LEGAL streaming sites

Mar 9, 2022 5:29 AM

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-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Dillusional black clover was number 1 on chrunchyroll.litterally in every country where chrunchyroll is available.Now where is the top dog of chrunchyroll now? why now there is no news of black clover next season now beside the shitty non canon movie bruh.

Mar 9, 2022 5:59 AM

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GalacticSamurai said:

-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Dillusional black clover was number 1 on chrunchyroll.litterally in every country where chrunchyroll is available.Now where is the top dog of chrunchyroll now? why now there is no news of black clover next season now beside the shitty non canon movie bruh.

it’s obvious from miles away that you are baiting. also this is offtopic dont bring up peak clover in the sabikui mid forum.
i’m just joking please don’t take it seriously!!!

Mar 9, 2022 10:09 AM

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BerserkerArmorr said:

-Elevate- said:
i think there’s a decent chance looks like it’s quite popular on crunchyroll

Crunchyroll viewership doesnt decide anything lol. The series needs to sell well on blu rays, dvds and merch in order to get a sequel, if the sales aren't good then the viewership doesn't matter as the studio doesn't profit from tv broadcasts nor foreign streaming sites like Crunchyroll, that money goes to the production committee.

Sir can you please explain me about how does Anime companies earn.

Mar 11, 2022 10:11 AM

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-Elevate- said:

GalacticSamurai said:

Dillusional black clover was number 1 on chrunchyroll.litterally in every country where chrunchyroll is available.Now where is the top dog of chrunchyroll now? why now there is no news of black clover next season now beside the shitty non canon movie bruh.

it’s obvious from miles away that you are baiting. also this is offtopic dont bring up peak clover in the sabikui mid forum.
i’m just joking please don’t take it seriously!!!

i just gave you the example.you litterally said that if the anime is popular on chrunchyroll then the second season of that anime will gonna be eventually come.or you just trolling?

Mar 24, 2022 11:16 AM

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I dunno why yall arguing here but as my dude above said streaming popularity of westerners doesn't amount to anything to Japan, when it comes to anime and manga Japan's main focus is japan inside Japan and yes dvd and blu ray sales do matter I advise yall to visit Japanese sites that sell these disc and you'll see certain series ranking for most sales same thing for anime ost sales etc all these things are determined by sales and popularity inside Japan not outside unless Japan is making something for the west itself and as my guy said most series u see with a 2nd season announcement so fast is most likely they already had it in 25 episode format but broke it off in 12 ep first and then dish out the 2nd part after nevertheless I myself don't believe CR amounts to anything, unless CR makes their own series and base what gets a sequel base on popularity

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