I don't understand armin's character at this point

WeebiBOY said:
The sacrificing thing in the last episode was hella stupid and cringey(atleast for me)like there are so many people dependent on you, Levi who choosed you over the only person he takes orders from,the person he respected so much and is still trying to complete the thing he promised him(killing beast titan/Zeke) and when assuming that the commander of the survey corps(hange) is dead(while talking with Mikasa he says that). That was the dumbest thing man,I understand that there are many things going in your head but you could have think something far better than that stupid sacrificing thing and that reunion with Annie, who was with the group who destroyed the wall and killed armin's fellow survey corps members.
If you guys have forgot Armin is a very smart person.He helped eren in defeating bertholdt(i guess this is the correct spelling) and planned the attack on Liberio.
I really liked Armin but his character has become a mess at this point.

erwinsmiths_wife said:
honestly same, he was so goated before season 4 and now his character is so cringe + him all of a sudden being in love w annie makes no sense.

official_brown said:

When he inherited Berdholt’s memories he became in love with Annie because of that. That’s why Eren said that he was enslaved and that his thoughts weren’t even his own. He became interested when he started having flashbacks

erwinsmiths_wife said:

yes i know but what i meant was that their relationship barely had any screen time or development. they would’ve made a lot more sense if they spent more time together and if armin wasn’t looking at her thru berthtolos memories.

official_brown said:


Well, Armin visited Annie for 4 years while she was in the crystal, and love cultivated that way. I’m pretty sure she hasn’t shown any interest in Armin. It is a little strange that they didn’t really explain anything to Annie but she probably knew the whole situation from Hitch about what was going on in the world. But yeah, that’s how he fell in love with her. But I really don’t think AoT wants to cultivate any romance, at least rn.

TheFounder131 said:
Armin's a clown specially in S4, I am glad that people are starting to notice it.


This is dialogue is the most cringiest dialogue in the entire series.




In first 3 seasons Armin had soo much better dialogues "a person who can't sacrifice anything could never achieve anything", "to overcome monster you have to become one"(something like that) what happened to these types of Dialogues? what happened to this Armin?

Reduced to atoms and now we have annie simp who is enslaved by bertholdt. Cause that's the only reasonable explanation of why Armin has became like this.

official_brown said:

I mean those quotes were at super serious parts where it was necessary, and this part wasn’t serious and I guess was for comedic relief. Idk if y’all have noticed but the characters are all getting worse, and that’s the point. Character degradation ever since S4. It’s not a bad thing

TheFounder131 said:
Character degradation isn't a bad thing?

Yeah ofc I mean I completely understand what you are saying, yep I get it. Characters are getting worse but that's not bad, its actually a good thing, I think all anime should apply this thing for the betterment of the story.

official_brown said:


Yes, it’s a good thing, you ever watch Neon Genesis? The characters progressively got crazy and worse as people. It’s the same thing for this. Look at Jean having PTSD, look at Armin not knowing what to do and being completely useless, look at Eren being a psychopath, look at Connie being a psychopath. Like these characters are getting worse but not narratively worse

official_brown said:


Yes, it’s a good thing, you ever watch Neon Genesis? The characters progressively got crazy and worse as people. It’s the same thing for this. Look at Jean having PTSD, look at Armin not knowing what to do and being completely useless, look at Eren being a psychopath, look at Connie being a psychopath. Like these characters are getting worse but not narratively worse

WeebiBOY said:
The sacrificing thing in the last episode was hella stupid and cringey(atleast for me)like there are so many people dependent on you, Levi who choosed you over the only person he takes orders from,the person he respected so much and is still trying to complete the thing he promised him(killing beast titan/Zeke) and when assuming that the commander of the survey corps(hange) is dead(while talking with Mikasa he says that). That was the dumbest thing man,I understand that there are many things going in your head but you could have think something far better than that stupid sacrificing thing and that reunion with Annie, who was with the group who destroyed the wall and killed armin's fellow survey corps members.
If you guys have forgot Armin is a very smart person.He helped eren in defeating bertholdt(i guess this is the correct spelling) and planned the attack on Liberio.
I really liked Armin but his character has become a mess at this point.

official_brown said:

When he inherited Berdholt’s memories he became in love with Annie because of that. That’s why Eren said that he was enslaved and that his thoughts weren’t even his own. He became interested when he started having flashbacks

TheFounder131 said:
Armin's a clown specially in S4, I am glad that people are starting to notice it.


This is dialogue is the most cringiest dialogue in the entire series.




In first 3 seasons Armin had soo much better dialogues "a person who can't sacrifice anything could never achieve anything", "to overcome monster you have to become one"(something like that) what happened to these types of Dialogues? what happened to this Armin?

Reduced to atoms and now we have annie simp who is enslaved by bertholdt. Cause that's the only reasonable explanation of why Armin has became like this.

Scordolo said:

@erwinsmiths_wifeI still can't believe people believe what Eren said when he was just making shit up.
Plus, if you guys pay attention, it was pretty evident that Annie had feelings for Armin.

Just to let you know, this will be the last comedy scene for us viewers. You know, I honestly don't get people like you who hate wholesome scenes.

official_brown said:


Yes, it’s a good thing, you ever watch Neon Genesis? The characters progressively got crazy and worse as people. It’s the same thing for this. Look at Jean having PTSD, look at Armin not knowing what to do and being completely useless, look at Eren being a psychopath, look at Connie being a psychopath. Like these characters are getting worse but not narratively worse

JackB001 said:

Jean development was coherent with his character and the previous seasons. But Armin completely changed...

Scordolo said:

About Armin, I have to agree that even I can't seem to find clues where he fell in love with Annie during Season 1. It's just silly that he fell in love with her when she was unconscious and doesn't make any sense.

yume_kuri said:
Armin became completely useless, it looks like isayama didn’t know what to do with him after choosing him to survive. Erwin should’ve been the one saved.

dylpickles said:

In my opinion , the whole point of Armin’s struggles and inability to act in the best way or make perfectly calculated decisions on the fly , as Erwin would have, is to highlight the fact that it was unrealistic for him to live up to Erwin’s standards as a leader. It not only emphasizes even more how great of a leader and character Erwin is, but it also puts Armin’s character into perspective. he was never going to live up to the greatest leader in Eldian history, and never should’ve been expected to. Erwin is Erwin and Armin is Armin. he’s a character who cares deeply about his friends and does everything he can to do what’s right and help and I think that’s fine in itself. He didn’t choose to be saved over Erwin, Levi made that decision because he thought it was what’s best for his brother Erwin to Rest In Peace. there will never be another Erwin and fans shouldn’t have ever expected Armin to hold more value than him in the first place

official_brown said:


THATS WHAT IM SAYINGGGG, you right

dylpickles said:

🤝🤝🤝 I’m glad someone sees that perspective lol,
Armin almost sacrificing his self and giving the Titan to Conny’s mom was the least thought out decision he’s made yet. and it’s just highlighting how much he’s struggling with this pressure and circumstances. he even admitted himself that he thinks he shouldn’t have been saved over Erwin. Armin’s struggles are just more genius writing

Scordolo said:

@erwinsmiths_wifeI still can't believe people believe what Eren said when he was just making shit up.
Plus, if you guys pay attention, it was pretty evident that Annie had feelings for Armin.

Just to let you know, this will be the last comedy scene for us viewers. You know, I honestly don't get people like you who hate wholesome scenes.

official_brown said:


True true, dude is just acting on instinct these days. Berdholdts (however you spell his name) memories have really changed his character and now Armin is a completely different character before. Mans has changed and it’s sad that people think it’s just because he is written poorly, when I think he’s still written well

official_brown said:


The Colossal Titan’s memory started it because birth control liked her. That’s why Eren said that his thoughts/feelings weren’t his own. Armin is enslaved to those feelings/memories

Scordolo said:

Ymir liked Historia and Porco inherited her memories. So why does Porco not have any feelings for Historia if that's the case?

WeebiBOY said:
The sacrificing thing in the last episode was hella stupid and cringey(atleast for me)like there are so many people dependent on you, Levi who choosed you over the only person he takes orders from,the person he respected so much and is still trying to complete the thing he promised him(killing beast titan/Zeke) and when assuming that the commander of the survey corps(hange) is dead(while talking with Mikasa he says that). That was the dumbest thing man,I understand that there are many things going in your head but you could have think something far better than that stupid sacrificing thing and that reunion with Annie, who was with the group who destroyed the wall and killed armin's fellow survey corps members.
If you guys have forgot Armin is a very smart person.He helped eren in defeating bertholdt(i guess this is the correct spelling) and planned the attack on Liberio.
I really liked Armin but his character has become a mess at this point.

Scordolo said:

Ymir liked Historia and Porco inherited her memories. So why does Porco not have any feelings for Historia if that's the case?

Original_Name69 said:
I would really love that Isayama made a "What if" to see what would've happened if Levi chose Erwin over Armin

littlewillie610 said:
To be fair, I’m pretty sure he gambled on Connie saving his life.

Harsh_ahir said:
Armin hit rock bottom so give him a break and u know that isayama could've done it better as his writing is better than this but it's not as bad as people are making it out to be

rach1m4n said:


But when will Reiner get a break? When will Eren? When will A? When will B? C? D? E?

It's dumb to compare but that justification makes it sounds like Armin through worst.

Scordolo said:

Ymir liked Historia and Porco inherited her memories. So why does Porco not have any feelings for Historia if that's the case?