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Jan 4, 2022 9:10 PM
#1
What's so unique about HXH that makes it different from other shonen anime |
Jan 4, 2022 9:19 PM
#2
It has a fun and adventurous side and a serious and depressing one and manages to balance both very well. |
MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST |
Jan 4, 2022 9:39 PM
#3
HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. |
Genocyber is a masterpiece everyone has to experience. Please do me a favor and watch Genocyber. |
Jan 4, 2022 9:59 PM
#4
fuckingbillion said: So why is its rating so much better than other shonen?HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. |
Jan 4, 2022 10:03 PM
#5
It's pretty all around perfect from the very start to end imo. It's one of the most consistent long runners out there in terms of both story and animation and never goes to a low level or hits rough moments that a lot of shounen fall into. Good soundtracks, good characters, good everything |
ManWild |
Jan 4, 2022 10:17 PM
#6
ManWild said: I don’t think its perfect but yes the characters, soundtrack and animation are overall very goodIt's pretty all around perfect from the very start to end imo. It's one of the most consistent long runners out there in terms of both story and animation and never goes to a low level or hits rough moments that a lot of shounen fall into. Good soundtracks, good characters, good everything |
Jan 4, 2022 10:27 PM
#7
Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. |
Kalkin_Jan 4, 2022 10:49 PM
Jan 4, 2022 11:01 PM
#8
HeavyGod said: I don't think so, I dislike gintama and I ain't seen a piece also there's a trend going on on this site to only like hunter x hunter, gintama and one piece and dislike every other shonen out there. |
Jan 4, 2022 11:20 PM
#9
Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Also their is 3 more MC. Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. |
Jan 5, 2022 12:18 AM
#10
Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. |
Jan 5, 2022 1:28 AM
#11
Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. |
Jan 5, 2022 1:50 AM
#12
It is always on constant hiatus that no other shonen anime can ever dream of comparing with. |
Jan 5, 2022 2:50 AM
#13
Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. |
Kalkin_Jan 5, 2022 11:12 AM
Jan 5, 2022 3:33 AM
#14
[quote=Cestlavie_ message=65376319] Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. And i thought bwere having a reasonable conversation "My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭" U sound like an 11 year old right now I was not, if you tried to use your brain. The archeologists all had a badge or proof of recognition to show they were archeologists so what's the ass pull. And they are going to believe huh? The government could easily pick that out U haven't watched one piece so this argument is going no where I already told you in my 1st reply that I don't remember much of events. PS I've shown u that all the Hypocrisy etc is in One Piece as well but u just ignored it. What "all Hypocrisy" , you really need to learn what 'Hypocrisy' means if you think your example is correct. And I'm the one making ass pulls ur the one trying to cover for Gon's clear goal of finding the his father and becoming a hunter I have already given you prove , if you going to ignore everything the fine, this not how discussion is done. Stop trying to make it sound like some kind of philosophical goal 😂 He wants to be the best hunter in order to find his father. He wants to find his father and want to know why his father left him to become Hunter, what's so special about hunters? , this is the main goal of Gon. Anyone who has watched the anime with open eye can tell this. I don't know which scanlator site u found that dialogue from I just watched the 1st episode + read the manga. Just now. |
Kalkin_Jan 5, 2022 11:08 AM
Jan 5, 2022 7:40 AM
#15
[quote=Cestlavie_ message=65377420][quote=Kalkin_ message=65376446] Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. And i thought bwere having a reasonable conversation "My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭" U sound like an 11 year old right now I was not, if you tried to use your brain. The archeologists all had a badge or proof of recognition to show they were archeologists so what's the ass pull. And they are going to believe huh? The government could easily pick that out U haven't watched one piece so this argument is going no where I already told you in my 1st reply that I don't remember much of events. PS I've shown u that all the Hypocrisy etc is in One Piece as well but u just ignored it. What "all Hypocrisy" , you really need to learn what 'Hypocrisy' means if you think your example is correct. And I'm the one making ass pulls ur the one trying to cover for Gon's clear goal of finding the his father and becoming a hunter I have already given you prove , if you going to ignore everything the fine, this not how discussion is done. Stop trying to make it sound like some kind of philosophical goal 😂 He wants to be the best hunter in order to find his father. He wants to find his father and want to know why his father left him to become Hunter, what's so special about hunters? , this is the main goal of Gon. Anyone who has watched the anime with open eye can tell this. I don't know which scanlator site u found that dialogue from I just watched the 1st episode + read the manga. Just now.That's just the semantics no matter how u twist it u can't deny his main goal,being to find his father so it's not so different from other shonen protagonists That's what I am saying my friend . His main goal is to find his father and to learn about the HUNTERS, which is far from being HUNTER KING OR HUNTER HOKAGE and other things I mentioned. As for the OP examples how about the ones other than hypocrisy, like guilt and co i mentioned and have examples u ignored that? I have already answered that in my post 16 So please give me an example how hypocrisy is used in hxh 1.Phantom troupe and Nobunaga killing innocent indiscriminately , without thinking about their family and friends , without showing any emotions , but when one of their friends die....... they start crying and showing all emotions, started taking revenge ...... 2.Gon always complain about criminals and their way of handling things , but in ANT ARC he himself act like a criminal taking Komugi as hostage, who he don't even know. 3.He sacrificed everything so he can defeat pitou, but still wants to know why his nen is gone and want it back. And many more..... |
Kalkin_Jan 5, 2022 11:07 AM
Jan 5, 2022 7:44 AM
#16
I don't know why but most of the mal users tend to dislike every battle shounen except HunterXhunter. |
Jan 5, 2022 8:03 AM
#17
It's considered different and unique from people who has seen 2 or 3 shounen at max. Basically they don't know what they are talking about. |
Jan 5, 2022 8:35 AM
#18
[quote=Cestlavie_ message=65378073] Kalkin_ said: [quote=Cestlavie_ message=65377420][quote=Kalkin_ message=65376446] Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. And i thought bwere having a reasonable conversation "My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭" U sound like an 11 year old right now I was not, if you tried to use your brain. The archeologists all had a badge or proof of recognition to show they were archeologists so what's the ass pull. And they are going to believe huh? The government could easily pick that out U haven't watched one piece so this argument is going no where I already told you in my 1st reply that I don't remember much of events. PS I've shown u that all the Hypocrisy etc is in One Piece as well but u just ignored it. What "all Hypocrisy" , you really need to learn what 'Hypocrisy' means if you think your example is correct. And I'm the one making ass pulls ur the one trying to cover for Gon's clear goal of finding the his father and becoming a hunter I have already given you prove , if you going to ignore everything the fine, this not how discussion is done. Stop trying to make it sound like some kind of philosophical goal 😂 He wants to be the best hunter in order to find his father. He wants to find his father and want to know why his father left him to become Hunter, what's so special about hunters? , this is the main goal of Gon. Anyone who has watched the anime with open eye can tell this. I don't know which scanlator site u found that dialogue from That's just the semantics no matter how u twist it u can't deny his main goal,being to find his father so it's not so different from other shonen protagonists That's what I am saying my friend . His main goal is to find his father and to learn about the HUNTERS, which is far from being HUNTER KING OR HUNTER HOKAGE and other things I mentioned. As for the OP examples how about the ones other than hypocrisy, like guilt and co i mentioned and have examples u ignored that? I have already answered that in my post 16 So please give me an example how hypocrisy is used in hxh 1.Phantom troupe and Nobunaga killing innocent indiscriminately , without thinking about their family and friends , without showing any emotions , but when one of their friends die....... they start crying and showing all emotions, started taking revenge ...... 2.Gon always complain about criminals and their way of handling things , but in ANT ARC he himself act like a criminal taking Komugi as hostage, who he don't even know. 3.He sacrificed everything so he can defeat pitou, but still wants to know why his nen is gone and want it back. And many more..... Alright I now understand what u are trying to say about Gon But u said is different from hokage or Pirate king even though his goal is still quite ambitious, You calling it ambitious doesn't make it one. Still it's far from them. Also if that's what u meant by hypocrisy isn't that common in most anime with the villians killing who they like but when it comes to their families they show care and compassion . No, not actually. You can't bring 1-2 anime and prove my all points wrong. Also do u understand now that all those things u mentioned like meaning of life and co are also present in other anime too Especially that hypocrisy part in AOT Their is different b/t "present in anime" and "exploring them". Read what i said in my 1st post clearly. |
Kalkin_Jan 5, 2022 11:06 AM
Jan 5, 2022 8:38 AM
#19
- Good pacing (A little poor though on Chimera ant arc) - Actually interesting and useful side characters (Kurapika in Yorknew, Leorio etc.) - Interesting power system (Nen is awesome) - Interesting take on the protagonist - has consequences for being a naiive child unlike other shounens. - Interesting villains (Shadow troupe and Killua's family). - Great soundtrack. - Fun world, feels like an adventure. It is not hugely unique but is better executed than all other shounen anime I have watched. Admittedly I am not a huge battle shounen fan but despite that Hunter x Hunter is my favourite anime of all time. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:11 AM
#20
SynapticBlast said: - Good pacing (A little poor though on Chimera ant arc) - Actually interesting and useful side characters (Kurapika in Yorknew, Leorio etc.) - Interesting power system (Nen is awesome) - Interesting take on the protagonist - has consequences for being a naiive child unlike other shounens. - Interesting villains (Shadow troupe and Killua's family). - Great soundtrack. - Fun world, feels like an adventure. It is not hugely unique but is better executed than all other shounen anime I have watched. Admittedly I am not a huge battle shounen fan but despite that Hunter x Hunter is my favourite anime of all time. Couldn't have said it better myself. However, how can you name killuas family in the villain section and not mention hisoka or meruem (for me best villain of the show). I know you are just giving an example, but killuas family is the last place my mind would go when thinking of hxh villains. And also with, the exception of illumi, none of killuas family members is an actual villain. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:12 AM
#21
ManWild said: chimera ant arc is way better than all the other arcs but i agree with uIt's pretty all around perfect from the very start to end imo. It's one of the most consistent long runners out there in terms of both story and animation and never goes to a low level or hits rough moments that a lot of shounen fall into. Good soundtracks, good characters, good everything |
Jan 5, 2022 10:18 AM
#22
NekoZamurai said: because most battle shounen are predictable and follow roughly the same pattern I don't know why but most of the mal users tend to dislike every battle shounen except HunterXhunter. |
nishant0Jan 5, 2022 10:57 AM
Jan 5, 2022 10:19 AM
#23
nishant0 said: It's long with almost no fillers, that's all I guess if all you care is about "score". Something like One Piece will reach 9s too when it gets finished...fuckingbillion said: So why is its rating so much better than other shonen?HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:19 AM
#24
nishant0 said: it’s not cheesy and it tackles situations very differently. It is also heartwarming and depressing at the same time, which is a good mix and not found that much in shonen anime/manga with all the censorship and non-gore elements.What's so unique about HXH that makes it different from other shonen anime |
Jan 5, 2022 10:20 AM
#25
mhkr said: nishant0 said: It's long with almost no fillers, that's all I guess if all you care is about "score". Something like One Piece will reach 9s too when it gets finished...fuckingbillion said: HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. Only bcz of 1/5th rule. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:23 AM
#26
[quote=Kalkin_ message=65378398] Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: [quote=Cestlavie_ message=65377420][quote=Kalkin_ message=65376446] Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. And i thought bwere having a reasonable conversation "My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭" U sound like an 11 year old right now I was not, if you tried to use your brain. The archeologists all had a badge or proof of recognition to show they were archeologists so what's the ass pull. And they are going to believe huh? The government could easily pick that out U haven't watched one piece so this argument is going no where I already told you in my 1st reply that I don't remember much of events. PS I've shown u that all the Hypocrisy etc is in One Piece as well but u just ignored it. What "all Hypocrisy" , you really need to learn what 'Hypocrisy' means if you think your example is correct. And I'm the one making ass pulls ur the one trying to cover for Gon's clear goal of finding the his father and becoming a hunter I have already given you prove , if you going to ignore everything the fine, this not how discussion is done. Stop trying to make it sound like some kind of philosophical goal 😂 He wants to be the best hunter in order to find his father. He wants to find his father and want to know why his father left him to become Hunter, what's so special about hunters? , this is the main goal of Gon. Anyone who has watched the anime with open eye can tell this. I don't know which scanlator site u found that dialogue from I just watched the 1st episode + read the manga. Just now.That's just the semantics no matter how u twist it u can't deny his main goal,being to find his father so it's not so different from other shonen protagonists That's what I am saying my friend . His main goal is to find his father and to learn about the HUNTERS, which is far from being HUNTER KING OR HUNTER HOKAGE and other things I mentioned. As for the OP examples how about the ones other than hypocrisy, like guilt and co i mentioned and have examples u ignored that? I have already answered that in my post 16 So please give me an example how hypocrisy is used in hxh 1.Phantom troupe and Nobunaga killing innocent indiscriminately , without thinking about their family and friends , without showing any emotions , but when one of their friends die....... they start crying and showing all emotions, started taking revenge ...... 2.Gon always complain about criminals and their way of handling things , but in ANT ARC he himself act like a criminal taking Komugi as hostage, who he don't even know. 3.He sacrificed everything so he can defeat pitou, but still wants to know why his nen is gone and want it back. And many more..... Alright I now understand what u are trying to say about Gon But u said is different from hokage or Pirate king even though his goal is still quite ambitious, You calling it ambitious doesn't make it one. Still it's far from them. Also if that's what u meant by hypocrisy isn't that common in most anime with the villians killing who they like but when it comes to their families they show care and compassion . No, not actually. You can't bring 1-2 anime and prove my all points wrong. Also do u understand now that all those things u mentioned like meaning of life and co are also present in other anime too Especially that hypocrisy part in AOT Their is different b/t "present in anime" and "exploring them". Read what i said in my 1st post clearly. Different Shonen characters are mcs like Ichigo or Denji guys that never wanted to become what they are but we're thrusted into cause of the situation Now let's compare Gon and Luffy, Naruto co They all have dreams, all want to acheive something ambitious or go lucky, the three characters still have things unique to them but they still share thilese same traits so I don't see how hxh is any different with it's mc I'm sorry I don't understand what u mean by present in anime and exploring them Can u explain cause I'd don't get if it's present to an anime won't it naturally be explored unless it won't have been put there in the first place. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:28 AM
#27
nishant0 said: What's so unique about HXH that makes it different from other shonen anime The writing + drastic story change and character developments |
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Jan 5, 2022 10:30 AM
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Jan 5, 2022 10:32 AM
#29
Jeez what a smoke in comments section I guess we have trend now to hate everything what popular or highscore. Just imagine someone start talking shit like this "Breaking Bad isn't different than other TV series" on IMBD for example. He will make a clown from himself. I'm not saying that you must like top tier series but not say stupid shit like this is the same as others because clearly not because if it was it wouldn't has such high score and popularity. |
Jan 5, 2022 10:39 AM
#30
Gives you a better sense of adventure and a quest rather than most anime |
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10 |
Jan 5, 2022 10:39 AM
#31
mhkr said: I know why this is rated higher, I'm just asking that user why do you think hxh is similar to other shonen and I'm glad you answer it but I totally disagree 'No fillers ' doesn't justify the anime's high scorenishant0 said: It's long with almost no fillers, that's all I guess if all you care is about "score". Something like One Piece will reach 9s too when it gets finished...fuckingbillion said: HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. |
Jan 5, 2022 11:06 AM
#32
There’s nothing about HxH that I haven’t seen in other anime, aside for gon being mentally a child and dealing with things the childlike way unlike some other anime. As to why it’s rated higher? People like it. They’ll rate the shows that they like, higher than the ones they don’t. That’s the gist of it. |
Jan 5, 2022 11:18 AM
#33
Kalkin_ said: tbh I agree on you about the Gon not wanting to become the best hunter and only to find his Dad. He sacrificed his nen for Kite who is his fathers apprentice. And if Gon was trying to become the best hunter then why the fuck is the mangaka gonna make him loose His nen and why the fuck is kurapika the mc in the manga. At the end of greed island he saw gings location but it was kite instead of focusing on becoming strong. Proves Your point[quote=Cestlavie_ message=65378073] Kalkin_ said: [quote=Cestlavie_ message=65377420][quote=Kalkin_ message=65376446] Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Ok then tell me which action of gon shows he wants to become Best Hunter in the world ? And when did he said tha? Give me examples , when and how these themes explored in one piece. He said that in Episode 1 that he wants to become the best hunter because his dad was a hunter quote me on that Well for the one piece world the world government is corrupt, there's is massive slavery and greed among the nobles ,There is also a lot of discrimination and racism covered in the Fishman island arc were the fishmen are persecuted on land by the humans for being different In the post Marineford arc the difference in wealth and greed were portrayed showing how the rich get and the poor get poorer Human hypocrisy is shown in One Piece during the Enies Lobby arc how The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown and called it necessary justice but when pirates do it is seen as evil Etc His main goal was to find his father and learn about the hunters and Hunter world, which we often saw him doing. We never saw him trying to do what you said. When did I talked about corruption , discrimination and racism ,all these themes are explored in many battle shonen Aot , FMAB, Naruto.....what you are mentioning has nothing to do with my previous reply. Answer me what I asked. It's been long since i read one piece so i don't remember much things. Why did The government commited mass genocide of Robin's hometown ? And why did pirates do evil? How both the 'evil' same. Gon thought to himself at the beginning in order to find his dad he had to become a great hunter which is why he trains and improves himself a lot And (selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices.) Selfishness is typical greed and corruption right? Regret? Isn't that also normal a character regretting his/her previous actions. Like Luffy regrets facing and losing to Magellan which caused him to lose 10 years of his life,( Guilt that's also normal. Jimbei feeling guilty that he released Arlong from prison which ended up terrorising Nani's village. Life and it's value, during the Marineford war, Coby's speech, and the latest Wano Chapter with Ussop speaking on how there's no shame in struggling for ur life no matter how pathetic it seems. As for the Robin thing because her island is filled with archeologists which were trying to uncover the mysteries of the government and the world so they were annihilated. You're just making random assumption about Gon, to prove yourself right .Gon thought this gon thought that....If he really want to become Hunter King then why he was not trying to do so. Now you are just nitpicking , you can't bring the certain events or character trait and call it the theme of the story. If you really want to call something 'theme' in one piece, then it is - Friendship, Discrimination, Pirates and their hardships..... About Robin - By you'r logic government of any country is hypocratic , because they punish the criminals and stop others to do crime. I am not saying Robin and her hometown people are completely criminals , but still what they were doing was forbidden by the government (as far as i remember). So they were not being hypocratic. For Robin Yh it was outlawed but there were still actually some normal civilians that were not archeologists but still ended up dying While the world government won't punish the celestial Dragons for having slaves or killing people as they wish isn't that kind of hypocritical As for Gon u may say I'm making assumptions or nitpicking but isn't that what he wanted If I remember correctly he said he wants to become a great hunter because his dad was a great hunter, as he left his village He did say "being a hunter must be a great job if my dad could leave his own son" Like I said there is nothing wrong with a character having a goal, it helps drive the story forward Or it'll end up like bleach You are giving me good laugh, continue..... So you are saying that they should have separated civilians from criminals and then punish them? And how they gonna do that. It's not like, it was written on their faces that this guy is criminal or this guy is civilian. You are trying to hard , making asspulls. My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭 He said to his villagers that he will become "BEST HunTER" when he was departing , But he never said that it is his maingoal. Here is conversation when the ship's Captain asked him about his goal. Captain : Why do you want to become Hunter? Gon : My dad is a hunter. I left whale island because I want to know why my Dad wanted to be a Hunter so much. This conversation shows What was his main goal. And we often saw this in the series. And i thought bwere having a reasonable conversation "My teachebut punishes me ,but not others so he is hypocratic 🤭" U sound like an 11 year old right now I was not, if you tried to use your brain. The archeologists all had a badge or proof of recognition to show they were archeologists so what's the ass pull. And they are going to believe huh? The government could easily pick that out U haven't watched one piece so this argument is going no where I already told you in my 1st reply that I don't remember much of events. PS I've shown u that all the Hypocrisy etc is in One Piece as well but u just ignored it. What "all Hypocrisy" , you really need to learn what 'Hypocrisy' means if you think your example is correct. And I'm the one making ass pulls ur the one trying to cover for Gon's clear goal of finding the his father and becoming a hunter I have already given you prove , if you going to ignore everything the fine, this not how discussion is done. Stop trying to make it sound like some kind of philosophical goal 😂 He wants to be the best hunter in order to find his father. He wants to find his father and want to know why his father left him to become Hunter, what's so special about hunters? , this is the main goal of Gon. Anyone who has watched the anime with open eye can tell this. I don't know which scanlator site u found that dialogue from I just watched the 1st episode + read the manga. Just now.That's just the semantics no matter how u twist it u can't deny his main goal,being to find his father so it's not so different from other shonen protagonists That's what I am saying my friend . His main goal is to find his father and to learn about the HUNTERS, which is far from being HUNTER KING OR HUNTER HOKAGE and other things I mentioned. As for the OP examples how about the ones other than hypocrisy, like guilt and co i mentioned and have examples u ignored that? I have already answered that in my post 16 So please give me an example how hypocrisy is used in hxh 1.Phantom troupe and Nobunaga killing innocent indiscriminately , without thinking about their family and friends , without showing any emotions , but when one of their friends die....... they start crying and showing all emotions, started taking revenge ...... 2.Gon always complain about criminals and their way of handling things , but in ANT ARC he himself act like a criminal taking Komugi as hostage, who he don't even know. 3.He sacrificed everything so he can defeat pitou, but still wants to know why his nen is gone and want it back. And many more..... Alright I now understand what u are trying to say about Gon But u said is different from hokage or Pirate king even though his goal is still quite ambitious, You calling it ambitious doesn't make it one. Still it's far from them. Also if that's what u meant by hypocrisy isn't that common in most anime with the villians killing who they like but when it comes to their families they show care and compassion . No, not actually. You can't bring 1-2 anime and prove my all points wrong. Also do u understand now that all those things u mentioned like meaning of life and co are also present in other anime too Especially that hypocrisy part in AOT Their is different b/t "present in anime" and "exploring them". Read what i said in my 1st post clearly. |
Jan 5, 2022 12:02 PM
#34
1-a world of strong badass charcters that don't give a single shit about the main character or even know him, cuz they have their own lives and they do their own stuff, makes the world believable and cool af 2- the most complex power system that i have ever seen, which gives infinite freedom for creativity and for strategic ass amazing fights 3- no evil vs good type shit, as mentioned before every character does whatever they want, no one cares to be good or evil, everyone has their own motivations 4- so many strong characters, or characters that we don't know how strong they are, yet they never fight, unlile other shounen where they introduce strong characters just to make them fight and thats it, HxH keeps you guessing on who would win in a fight? The spiders or the royal guard? Ging or the chimera ant king? What about all the elite hunters that got introduced in the last arc? How strong are they? Sorry for the long read but to me thats what makes HxH easily the best shounen, if not the best show ever |
Jan 5, 2022 12:07 PM
#35
fuckingbillion said: HXH isn't "different." It's like every other damn shonen out there. So it's like Horimiya? |
Jan 5, 2022 12:44 PM
#36
It tells a message, talks about themes in a mature perspective beyond all the shounen elements. It takes positive elements of the genre and enhances them with higher meaning. |
Jan 5, 2022 1:35 PM
#37
HXH is good as it tells you a lot about the meaning of real friendships and relationships. Furthermore, there is a whole amount of different exciting fights and the story also keeps you going. It also makes you really emotional after finishing the first ,,fun called anime” |
Jan 5, 2022 5:18 PM
#38
Cestlavie_ said: Bro when did he say that, his main goal is to find his father and in order to do so he does everything his Dad like catching that big fish in whale island and becoming a hunter at X age. Never heard him say he wanted to be the best at anything (could’ve been a subtitle misunderstanding idk). Either way I guess the fact that Gon’s goal isn’t really the focal point of the show (btw there’s also 3 other MC’s) but it’s more the detours that are highlighted (they clearly state that in the last episode). I have watched many shonen (not One piece tho) and HxH just feels unique and special, it might be all in my head and there might really not be anything unique about it but it really doesn’t take anything from it. Also, it might be how certain themes are handled by HxH that stets it apart, like you said “oh gon isn’t the only Mc that loses” or that “selfishness, regret[…] are all in One piece” like HxH was supposed to invent new themes and emotions (I didn’t really get your argument) but the way they make Gon an underdog is more believable than Naruto for example being an underdog (just trying to give an example as to how HxH handles certain tropes, themes, etc. differently than other shonen) who’s also the child of prophecy, ashura’s incarnate, an uzumaki, etc. And also he way too strong to be underdog while Gon is realistically pummeled in his fight with Hisoka and is obviously weaker than the Phantom troupe. I guess it’s stuff like that makes HxH unique imo.Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system |
Jan 5, 2022 5:45 PM
#39
Cestlavie_ said: Cap_Slayer2weeb said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Watch episode 1 in dub Cause that's was one of my first shows I don't hate hxh and ur right it doesn't take anything away from it, I'm just saying it isn't only in hxh that some of these themes happen. simple And i get ur Naruto point, but in the og series the underdog aspect was handled pretty well. Hxh has unique things to it's name but I don't think all that the original poster mentioned are correct Cestlavie_ said: Ah you see, you can’t trust dub man, nah I’m kidding but even if it was mentioned in the first ep of the dub I swear, he never says it again (it might have been retconed in the sense that they changed his goal) but yeah HxH isn’t one of a kind it’s still a shonen it’s not going to completely unique that we can agree on but idk about Naruto it felt like he was an underdog more because the village was mean to him and less that it was truly showed by his actions like he learned how to make a hundred shadow clones (if it wasn’t more than that) in one day, he learned the rasengan in what, 3 weeks? (I don’t really remember honestly) and in oh Naruto he almost never loses, he only ever felt like an underdog during their fight against Zabuza which I absolutely loved, but all to say I think it could have been handled better but this isn’t Naruto forum so let’s just all agree that HxH is peak fiction 🤝Cap_Slayer2weeb said: Cestlavie_ said: Kalkin_ said: Because the main characters don't want to become Hunter Hokage, nor they want to become Hunter king, they don't want to destroy the world, neither they want to establish piece in world , they are not "justice" . Overall their goals and their approach to the goals is grounded which make it different from other battle shonen. Also the battle system is 100 times more creative compared to other shonen. It never gets repetitive , every Arc is unique and filled with new ideas and charcters. Exam -> Battle royal -> Suspension thriller -> VR -> Dark seinen type - election and politics. And many more. It might feels a bit inconsistent , but still enjoyable. It goes more deep into the themes exploring many things like selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices. For more info read TOP REVIEW OF HxH. Here - However, what sets the series apart from other battle anime is its unorthodoxy and unpredictability. Shonen tropes and storytelling methods are undermined throughout the series. The main character for example, Gon, fails more than he succeeds. Power-ups based on emotion or willpower are non-existent and fighting in the series is radically different from other battle anime. The main protagonist is not the main focus of every arc either. At certain points in the series, you could even say that Gon has taken a supporting role, especially during the later portions of the CA arc where he isn't given as much focus due to the grand scope of the story. The standard battle anime formula of “lose-train-win” is also undermined. Although there is training, it does not always translate to a victory, nor does it propel the protagonists over or to the same level as their main adversaries in terms of strength. For the most part, the protagonists assume the underdog role. Although they have incredible potential, they are still kids who have a lot to learn. In terms of storytelling, unpredictable developments are commonplace. One thing that continues to amaze me with this show is how it leads viewers into thinking that the story will progress in this direction, only to change course and arrive at a completely different outcome. A good example of this would be the series' arcs which often end in an anti-climatic manner. Basically, there are a lot of scenes and story developments that you won’t see coming because they defy conventional shonen storytelling or are unpredictable in their own right. The series' unorthodoxy can also be seen in its fights which are primarily cerebral. In addition to being well-executed, HxH fights are smart and involve a lot of strategy. Raw power is a factor but it is not the factor that decides battle outcomes, actual power (nen abilities), experience and strategy are all taken into account. If a main character is outclassed by an opponent in all or most categories, he is likely to lose. Moreover, main characters are not given any special treatment in combat. This smart approach to fighting is further enhanced by nen, a unique and complex power system held by defined rules. The concept of nen, its principles, aura types and many applications on the battlefield reveal the huge amount of thought that was put into it. I still remember having to pause episodes, even research a bit during its introduction, just to digest it in its entirety. Honestly speaking, Gon literally said he wants to become the best hunter, is that really different from hokage , pirate king and co what is so grounded about that and personally I prefer if a main character has a goal or it'll end up like bleach Moreover, "selfishness , human hypocrisy, regret , guilt,life and it's value , survival of spices." Are all in One Piece so hxh isn't unique in that regard Gon isn't the only mc that loses too, And all Shonen characters are giving the underdog roll Bottom line is the main thing that hxh is unique is It's power system Watch episode 1 in dub Cause that's was one of my first shows I don't hate hxh and ur right it doesn't take anything away from it, I'm just saying it isn't only in hxh that some of these themes happen. simple And i get ur Naruto point, but in the og series the underdog aspect was handled pretty well. Hxh has unique things to it's name but I don't think all that the original poster mentioned are correct |
Jan 5, 2022 7:02 PM
#40
The thing that makes is different is just that it is incomplete, after completing 148 episodes, you are now connected to the characters, music is actually good if you notice, every ed is perfect for their arc, op is another emotion and the biggest thing is that as it is not complete so it still have a lot to serve. |
Jan 5, 2022 7:23 PM
#41
I think what makes hxh great is theme it has on life. It starts with light hearted theme like a normal early life of humans. But it turns dark and serious story progresses like we grow and our life becomes complex. It incorporates the felling like love hate friendship fear etc. The theme is what I believe makes it great and lovable. |
Jan 6, 2022 1:40 AM
#42
Idk I wouldn’t say it’s that different it’s just entertaining to me |
Jan 6, 2022 6:42 AM
#43
I don't know how they managed to do it, but 90 percent of the episodes feel like they're only 5 minutes long. That says something. |
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Jan 6, 2022 9:32 AM
#44
It’s not all that different, it’s just incredibly consistent, engaging and well written. Trust me, I’m not that big a Shonen fan, and I love HxH, it has some of the best highs in all of anime, and next-to-no lows, including one of the best arcs ever, the Chimera ant arc. |
Jan 6, 2022 1:35 PM
#45
Becuase its power system is well defined enough to be actually interesting and the shows story is different with each arc. It’s also just really good. |
Jan 6, 2022 4:10 PM
#46
Because you have to tremble at the genius of Yoshihiro Togashi. 😅 |
Jan 8, 2022 1:19 AM
#47
Very memorable characters, great action and adventure elements with awesome world building. Maybe not like One Piece type world building, but it’s up there, and the overall “nostalgia” is like the type of anime you watched as a kid on TV. Unfortunately, it’s been on Hiatus for 3 years. |
Jan 8, 2022 2:00 AM
#48
NekoZamurai said: So they can feel better about themselves being in a group with "elite" taste, the same type of people will claim that HxH is a seinen.I don't know why but most of the mal users tend to dislike every battle shounen except HunterXhunter. To answer OP's question, Hunter x Hunter takes itself way more serious than most other shonen, even when 12 years old don't act like 12 years old. There's a clear stark difference, when you watch Hunter x Hunter vs another generally known as an elite battle shonen in FMAB, Hunter x Hunter is more serious in nature compare to FMAB which is also a serious show but with way more comedy relief. Most shonen series don't take itself too seriously, which makes Hunter x Hunter stands out amongst the 'mature' crowds. Most Hunter x Hunter fans probably prefer FMA over FMAB for the same exact reason, that it's more serious in nature. |
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