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I would say no personally. I think the fans and maybe even the author would agree with that too. He wrote it for a specific audience in mind and probably doesn't want others outside of that getting their eyes on it. Who knows really, it might?

Dec 16, 2021 2:21 AM

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I think it will get mainstream gradually unlike demon slayer which needed only 1 episode for becoming mainstream

Dec 16, 2021 2:52 AM

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Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

Thanks to people like you we can't have nice things

Dec 16, 2021 3:01 AM

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Tbh it feels very mainstream friendly and western styled story except for the ecchi part

Dec 16, 2021 4:14 AM

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Ceoneichi said:
I think it will get mainstream gradually unlike demon slayer which needed only 1 episode for becoming mainstream

Nah mate episode 19 made it mainstream
There's even an article about it published some time ago don't remember which one tho

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Dec 16, 2021 4:17 AM

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Mushoku Tensei popularity growth is gradual,the more new seasons will come,the more popular it will become

Dec 16, 2021 4:22 AM

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Xacobe01 said:

Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

Thanks to people like you we can't have nice things

How about this. You get to feel special and have it all to yourself =]

Dec 16, 2021 5:49 AM

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No. As much as I want it to be it won't

Dec 16, 2021 5:53 AM

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Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

This might be the reason why it wont get mainstream. Or even if it will, it will be full of hate.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Dec 16, 2021 6:26 AM

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Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

Dec 16, 2021 6:54 AM

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FocusIssues said:
Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

I understand what you are trying to say,But I think mushoku tensei will be fine,it's style of storytelling is not very anime like and Is more of a western fantasy type.So I can see Fantasy fans like of Got,Wot and lotr etc

Dec 16, 2021 6:56 AM

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FZREMAKE said:

Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

This might be the reason why it wont get mainstream. Or even if it will, it will be full of hate.

I remember a certain series which is even more extreme than mushoku tensei called Game of thrones is popular

Dec 16, 2021 6:57 AM

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FocusIssues said:
Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

And they might just decide to completely change the story from the source for whatever reason and get even more ppl hating this anime. There’s some good mainstream though imo, like Death Note, Code Geass, and I think Berserk (I haven’t watched it yet) counts as mainstream. I really liked the manga for A Silent Voice too. So it wouldn’t be bad imo if it gets mainstream (I heard that it already is mainstream though)

Dec 16, 2021 7:59 AM

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Kelly32723 said:

FocusIssues said:
Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

And they might just decide to completely change the story from the source for whatever reason and get even more ppl hating this anime. There’s some good mainstream though imo, like Death Note, Code Geass, and I think Berserk (I haven’t watched it yet) counts as mainstream. I really liked the manga for A Silent Voice too. So it wouldn’t be bad imo if it gets mainstream (I heard that it already is mainstream though)

berserk and code geass are not mainstream.mha ,demon slayer,aot are main stream even one peace in some scene because they have so much hype behind them so they attract international audience.

Ratings doesn't matter only enjoyment does.
Masterpiece or mid, generic or fresh,best or worst are all subjective
Eren is goat,and aot is still a masterpiece (eg.subjective opinion)

Dec 16, 2021 8:04 AM

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I get confused when people act like anime is not mainstream, or getting more mainstream. Mushoku Tensei is already pretty mainstream compared to most anime.

Dec 16, 2021 8:25 AM

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rohan121 said:
I get confused when people act like anime is not mainstream, or getting more mainstream. Mushoku Tensei is already pretty mainstream compared to most anime.

It is mid level mainstream now and it's not on the level of AoT and Mha yet where every anime fan and even outside of anime community who knows about it

Dec 16, 2021 8:36 AM

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Kelly32723 said:

FocusIssues said:
Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

And they might just decide to completely change the story from the source for whatever reason and get even more ppl hating this anime. There’s some good mainstream though imo, like Death Note, Code Geass, and I think Berserk (I haven’t watched it yet) counts as mainstream. I really liked the manga for A Silent Voice too. So it wouldn’t be bad imo if it gets mainstream (I heard that it already is mainstream though)

lol the only mainstream anime you mentioned is death note.

Dec 16, 2021 9:28 AM

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Ceoneichi said:

FocusIssues said:
Do you really want it to be mainstream? That means juvenile shonen crap like One Piece and Naruto. Demonslayer is a little less shonen but still can't hardly stomache the dialogue. Let this be one for the adults. The original anime fanbase is aging so this can be something for them. It's popular enough for many seasons. Once you try to mainstream you begin to compromise the story's vision, which would be sad.

I understand what you are trying to say,But I think mushoku tensei will be fine,it's style of storytelling is not very anime like and Is more of a western fantasy type.So I can see Fantasy fans like of Got,Wot and lotr etc

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My opinion is that its popularity will grow each turning point but if it means changing the story like it is in the manga to make it mainstream then that would be very bad. I'm reading the LNs (already read the WNs) and what they did in the manga is a crime. It completely subverts the author's own message by compromising and deleting important sections of the story.

Dec 16, 2021 11:15 AM

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It will not. Mushoku Tensei is mostly for adult, matured, or cultured people.

Not like some shounen, power-battle fantasy type where MC is some kind rightful hero right from the start.

Dec 16, 2021 11:29 AM

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Probably not, because the type of people that this show would attract from a material standpoint, don't really watch anime.

Where as a big chunk of anime fans(from a general standpoint) atleast at this stage are too milk toast to handle confronting things without trying to self insert some morality, GoT was far worse in this regard but it appealed to older people being a live action.

Apologies for any offense in advance. I’m trying to be as objective as I can in explaining this.

I think you’re ignoring presentation. A “funny” moment when the show teases revealing the crotch of what looks to be a what, 7 year old? … is different from just showing a character doing immoral things. If an audience member found that funny as the show presented it rather than uncomfortable (at the very least) then there is a problem. That moment, and some others, should not be presented as funny. It just doesn’t come across as if the show is acknowledging this “trait” of Rudeus’ as a major flaw. Instead, it helps to normalize it.

Dec 16, 2021 11:47 AM

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Ceoneichi said:

FZREMAKE said:

This might be the reason why it wont get mainstream. Or even if it will, it will be full of hate.

I remember a certain series which is even more extreme than mushoku tensei called Game of thrones is popular

Its popular in the west and personally I havent watched it. And even the 1 or 2 episode I did watch, I didnt like it. Plus game of thrones is a live action series so maybe people thought it was mature and it would look cool if they bragged about watching it.

If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Dec 16, 2021 11:49 AM

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I don't think so and I don't think it should. Becoming mainstream can impact the production and anime's are still able to produce incredible things because they are free from contains that other more western and more mainstream productions have to adhere.

Dec 16, 2021 12:46 PM

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Thankfully no. Why would anyone want more normalcancer?
It will never air on Toonami.

Dec 16, 2021 1:38 PM

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If by mainstream you mean Shounen level popularity the likes of Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan, then no.

The show is still plenty popular though, and for good reason.

Dec 16, 2021 1:40 PM

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no because rudeus is a degen nonce

still a good show tho

Dec 16, 2021 1:43 PM

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Hardly any chance at all. Aside from "problematic elements", the premise is frankly too dull to have mass appeal. There's no crazy hook nor enough fast paced action. You need something like that to reach an audience beyond anime enjoyer.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron

Dec 16, 2021 2:23 PM

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Xacobe01 said:

Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

Thanks to people like you we can't have nice things

Lmao why? I like Mushoku Tensei. Being offended by the problematics parts does not mean that I want to cancel the series.

Dec 16, 2021 2:25 PM

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FZREMAKE said:

Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

This might be the reason why it wont get mainstream. Or even if it will, it will be full of hate.

What hate are you talking about? I don't hate the show, I just hate its scenes like that. If you look at my profile, I really like Mushoku.

Dec 16, 2021 3:09 PM

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Anzuelo said:
With so much pedo bait and unnecessarily sexual scenes, I doubt it.

The new season has been pretty toned down compared to the source material and manga which brings up sex related stuff more often and more explicitly.
Can't wait to see the next arc without Rudy talking about having ED all the time like in the manga.

Dec 16, 2021 3:52 PM

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The big question is why someone would want MT to become mainstream. Most mainstream shows are shonen crap battle fantasies with terrible dialogue and juvenile characters. The shows continue because the audience knows what to expect -- battles -- and don't particularly care about anything else. They remind me of Saturday morning cartoons back in the day prior to cable channels. They're a bore to me, but that is only my opinion.

Dec 16, 2021 4:48 PM

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I don't know if mainstream is the right word, but it's pretty popular. It's number 2 on a site like MAL and lead the pack on R/anime for this past season. It will never lead the pack like a JJK or Demon Slayer; but that's that's ridiculous standard to hold it against. Moving to metrics that do matter, it was highly successful on streaming both in Japan as well as over Seas.

Dec 16, 2021 5:04 PM

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ghier said:

dabdabgoose said:
Probably not, because the type of people that this show would attract from a material standpoint, don't really watch anime.

Where as a big chunk of anime fans(from a general standpoint) atleast at this stage are too milk toast to handle confronting things without trying to self insert some morality, GoT was far worse in this regard but it appealed to older people being a live action.

Apologies for any offense in advance. I’m trying to be as objective as I can in explaining this.

I think you’re ignoring presentation. A “funny” moment when the show teases revealing the crotch of what looks to be a what, 7 year old? … is different from just showing a character doing immoral things. If an audience member found that funny as the show presented it rather than uncomfortable (at the very least) then there is a problem. That moment, and some others, should not be presented as funny. It just doesn’t come across as if the show is acknowledging this “trait” of Rudeus’ as a major flaw. Instead, it helps to normalize it.

It's because Rudy was the 7yr old mc and his intention wasn't to rape Eris, even though he maybe was and still the scum at that time he will not do anything which will get him jailed.Those scenes where there to show how much Rudy still has to develop and to make aware us viewers aware how bad his situation.

And it was presented in funny way because it was Rudy's pov

Dec 16, 2021 6:08 PM

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Ceoneichi said:

ghier said:

Apologies for any offense in advance. I’m trying to be as objective as I can in explaining this.

I think you’re ignoring presentation. A “funny” moment when the show teases revealing the crotch of what looks to be a what, 7 year old? … is different from just showing a character doing immoral things. If an audience member found that funny as the show presented it rather than uncomfortable (at the very least) then there is a problem. That moment, and some others, should not be presented as funny. It just doesn’t come across as if the show is acknowledging this “trait” of Rudeus’ as a major flaw. Instead, it helps to normalize it.

It's because Rudy was the 7yr old mc and his intention wasn't to rape Eris, even though he maybe was and still the scum at that time he will not do anything which will get him jailed.Those scenes where there to show how much Rudy still has to develop and to make aware us viewers aware how bad his situation.

And it was presented in funny way because it was Rudy's pov

Idk man. Whenever a production goes through the trouble to make something look funny, that usually means they want people to laugh at the scene. They don’t have to put in this shining effect to make it look like something amazing, but they did because it makes the moment appear more comedic. And I was referring to the scene with the demon empress; she prolly looks closer to five than seven tbh. But there are plenty of scenes with Eris that are also ridiculous.

You can’t forget the fact that Rudeus is an adult in life experience. The age of his body doesn’t mean jack shit when it comes to how he should act. Don’t tell me it wasn’t his intention either; he’s already sexually assaulted her quite intentionally with that horrendous nipple grab. Like jeez man.

Dec 16, 2021 6:13 PM

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I don't think so. Being mainstream popular means you can watch it with your wife or even your kid and recommend it to a friend who is not a regular anime fan but Mushoku is definately not that kind of a show.

Dec 16, 2021 6:13 PM

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ghier said:

Ceoneichi said:

It's because Rudy was the 7yr old mc and his intention wasn't to rape Eris, even though he maybe was and still the scum at that time he will not do anything which will get him jailed.Those scenes where there to show how much Rudy still has to develop and to make aware us viewers aware how bad his situation.

And it was presented in funny way because it was Rudy's pov

Idk man. Whenever a production goes through the trouble to make something look funny, that usually means they want people to laugh at the scene. They don’t have to put in this shining effect to make it look like something amazing, but they did because it makes the moment appear more comedic. And I was referring to the scene with the demon empress; she prolly looks closer to five than seven tbh. But there are plenty of scenes with Eris that are also ridiculous.

You can’t forget the fact that Rudeus is an adult in life experience. The age of his body doesn’t mean jack shit when it comes to how he should act. Don’t tell me it wasn’t his intention either; he’s already sexually assaulted her quite intentionally with that horrendous nipple grab. Like jeez man.

I guess you didn't get my point yet, those scenes looks funny because it's Rudy's pov and at that he was at the lowest

And what's with you people saying all the time he is 40yr old,his life on earth has ended just accept this fact,he is now reincarnated as Rudeus Greyrat and he will live in this world like a human of that world now,so obviously he will get a girl he like and have a family with her. Will you even then say he is 40yr old.

Dec 16, 2021 7:09 PM

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Ceoneichi said:

ghier said:

Idk man. Whenever a production goes through the trouble to make something look funny, that usually means they want people to laugh at the scene. They don’t have to put in this shining effect to make it look like something amazing, but they did because it makes the moment appear more comedic. And I was referring to the scene with the demon empress; she prolly looks closer to five than seven tbh. But there are plenty of scenes with Eris that are also ridiculous.

You can’t forget the fact that Rudeus is an adult in life experience. The age of his body doesn’t mean jack shit when it comes to how he should act. Don’t tell me it wasn’t his intention either; he’s already sexually assaulted her quite intentionally with that horrendous nipple grab. Like jeez man.

I guess you didn't get my point yet, those scenes looks funny because it's Rudy's pov and at that he was at the lowest

And what's with you people saying all the time he is 40yr old,his life on earth has ended just accept this fact,he is now reincarnated as Rudeus Greyrat and he will live in this world like a human of that world now,so obviously he will get a girl he like and have a family with her. Will you even then say he is 40yr old.

Rudy’s POV huh? Tell me, how exactly did you feel watching that scene? Be honest and reflect on the experience first, then try to put it in words. Maybe watch it again if you need to.

Here is my experience: To me, it didn’t at all feel like the show was presenting Rudy at his lowest or even with an independent viewpoint; it felt like it was trying to get me to laugh as if it were a more lighthearted moment. Watching the scene leads me into that feeling of lightheartedness, which then turns into a very uncomfortable feeling b/c I consciously realize this scene shouldn’t be lighthearted. What would the effect be on me if I didn’t have that conscious realization? What would the implication be if I pushed aside that conscious realization? And does the show not push me to put that realization aside by making these scenes “lighthearted”?

I mean I accept he was reborn with like 30 years life experience. That’s the fact. That in of itself is not a problem. The problem is he’s trying to get with children (sometimes without consent) without a thought of how wrong it may be, and the show is almost taking Rudy’s side on this (from my perspective) with these “lighthearted” moments … as if he’s just an honest pervert.

It’s only natural I find all of this distasteful being that I acknowledge and agree with laws that prohibit such relations b/w adults and children. To discredit your point about him being reborn, to me, those laws are not just in place b/c an adult’s body is far more mature than a child’s.

To test if you might actually agree with this, here is a thought experiment for you. If you no longer aged after turning say … 16, 17 … would it be perfectly okay for you to date 15 year-olds, maybe even a bit younger, for the rest of your eternal life?
If no, why is this any different ethically from Rudy’s situation? Why does being reborn just wipe away all of his life experience?
If yes, … well, I don’t really have anything more to say. We just have different moral guidelines. I’d like to try and convince you to think differently, but that would be challenging to do in a forum.

Dec 16, 2021 7:33 PM

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The Self insert moralists expect child rudeus to be hitting it off with adults 20 years older then him because they fail to grasp the reality provided.

Dec 16, 2021 7:50 PM

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I don't think so. Being mainstream popular means you can watch it with your wife or even your kid and recommend it to a friend who is not a regular anime fan but Mushoku is definately not that kind of a show.

I can recommend Scooby Doo or Pokemon to my friends but I wouldn't call that peak entertainment. Mainstream means to me compromise story for broader audience appeal. You get something a lot of people will watch but it is usually trash.

Dec 16, 2021 7:57 PM

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nah that show is so damn weird

Dec 16, 2021 8:45 PM

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dabdabgoose said:
The Self insert moralists expect child rudeus to be hitting it off with adults 20 years older then him because they fail to grasp the reality provided.

Do you even have a willingness to believe you may be wrong?

Dec 16, 2021 8:53 PM

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FocusIssues said:
Let this be one for the adults.

i haven't watched it and probably never will, but from what i heard of i have a vague idea of the anime. having sexual scenes and a mc with pedo vibes doesn't make an anime more "mature". btw this is an isekai aka anime for virgin, so why are you putting it on a pedestal? Shonen =/= crap idk what made you think one piece is dogshit but you do you

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Dec 16, 2021 8:59 PM

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ghier said:

dabdabgoose said:
The Self insert moralists expect child rudeus to be hitting it off with adults 20 years older then him because they fail to grasp the reality provided.

Do you even have a willingness to believe you may be wrong?

Wrong about what? It's a fantasy sceniaro and you just self inserted your morality to the situation, morality by definition is subjective.

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FocusIssues said:
Let this be one for the adults.

i haven't watched it and probably never will, but from what i heard of i have a vague idea of the anime. having sexual scenes and a mc with pedo vibes doesn't make an anime more "mature". btw this is an isekai aka anime for virgin, so why are you putting it on a pedestal? Shonen =/= crap idk what made you think one piece is dogshit but you do you

Watch it first before making up things based on preconceived views.

The soo called pedo themes(which honestly is subjective since it's grey on whether you class a child an adult because his mind is) last probably 20 seconds total out of 22 episodes.

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Dec 16, 2021 9:10 PM

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