This show has a very specific image of "USSR"

dabdabgoose said:
Why not though?

Isn't the whole lore of vampire fantasy stem from Romania anyway?

My biggest problem with the layout of their fantasy world is they call the US the UK, which makes it confusing considering they have their fake USSR name.

Gagarin said:
I doubt thatmanga creator done enough reasearch to be consistent in world building. About officials i don't care, fuck them.

Gagarin said:
I doubt thatmanga creator done enough reasearch to be consistent in world building. About officials i don't care, fuck them.

Thigh_Tide said:
These are incredibly arbitrary things to complain about. "Why are the Soviet-like officials very Soviet?" Gee, why do you think?



It's an LN, and actually fairly well researched. It's near-perfectly on point with the technology and operations of the USSR at the time.

WatchTillTandava said:
The points of complaint you're raising about historical and cultural inaccuracies are incredibly minor for a series like this - alternate history-type series with fantasy elements. So much so that the same level of inaccuracies, generalization, and caricature such as those is present even in live action films and TV series, let alone anime and cartoons.

Nothing about this series and how it was conceptualized, presented, and advertised ever once gave the impression of asserting dedication to historical fidelity at all. Right away it's set in a country not even named Russia or the Soviet Union, but an alternate world/alternate reality fictional analogue of the Soviet Union. It being a fictional analogue gives them even more incredible degrees of license to be very selective in what they pick and choose and rearrange to fit their creative vision for the series, and how liberally they interpret and emphasize certain real historical factors while omitting or downplaying others.

Then there is the fact that "Vampire" is even among the genres at all to begin with.

The points you're criticizing are things which would not be uncommon to see even in an otherwise realistic if exaggerated historical fiction (think something like Vinland Saga). This isn't historical fiction. It's fictional history of a fictional place and country which is also partially a fantasy.

RobertBobert said:
Lol, I literally said at the beginning of my comment that I know this is not a historical show.

WatchTillTandava said:


Yes, but I guess my point is: Is it really an issue at all to begin with then?

RobertBobert said:
My thread is that the show creates a very weird version of a real country, not that it's not a historically accurate version of a real country.

WatchTillTandava said:


Sure, it can be amusing to take note of the differences to the real life equivalent, especially if you're a Russophile, knowledgeable of Soviet history, and/or a Russian or other Slav yourself who's naturally more in the position to be aware and take notice of the changes.

WatchTillTandava said:


Yeah, I can see how it can come off as cheesy and ignorant or even upset some people.

In my case, as a non-Russian, American, native English speaker who grew up exposed to and immersed in English language media and the arts in the Anglosphere basically from birth, it's not that I'm unaware that it's generalized, stereotyped, and inaccurate to the real world equivalents (in the case of the political elements; I had/have no clue about the drink and most Russian alcoholic beverages or much of its cuisine in general beyond a handful of things) - it just neither fazes/upsets nor surprises me at all, because I'm used to all film and television reducing other cultures to caricatures, whether idealized or demonized or somewhere in-between. Especially any non-English-speaking and non-Western country and culture, but even sometimes Anglosphere countries and regions within them. Sometimes it's malicious and for propaganda, sometimes it's for humor, sometimes it's out of genuine ignorance, and sometimes it's just laziness and apathy.