| Seems like Makima bots are back as well |
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| Still not going to stop the problem. MAL needs to put a paywall between people and the ability to influence aggregate score, favorite rankings, as well as limiting review rating to only paying members. I would be quite happy to become a contributor in that case, and I would be much more assured that these things are legitimate. |
| “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
| This is a good step in the right direction! |
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| thank you i appreciate your efforts to make ranking more reliable and faithful to original audience. |
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| is ichigo from darling in the franxx a new waifu xD |
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| I don't really get the effectiveness of this whole anti-botting recalculation if some of the characters who fell hard due to their bots getting removed are again gonna be botted rapidly to their positions before. Like Emilia fell so hard after the recalculation, well below the Top 50....and now she has once again rapidly made her way into the Top 50 in no time. This anti-botting recalculation only do remain effective if the characters who are still persistently being botted after the recalculation are taken care of again soon. |
345EdwardElricMay 19, 2021 11:59 AM
| "There's no such thing as a painless lesson, they just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah... a heart made full-metal." ~Edward Elric |
| This is a nice feature, more power to the developers of MAL |
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| Seems like this is a recurring system, which is pretty good. The bots of anime and manga fav have been removed once again. Now only the bots of char fav remain. |
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| The initial idea of removing boots is great, but how exactly does it work ? I noticed plenty of characters who randomly lost around 100-200 favorites very recently, days after the cleaning was made. And even more, those characters are quite niche ones and most of them didn't reach the 1,000 mark even with the help of the supposed "bots", how does that make sense ? Why would people boost relatively obscure characters without even making them reach 1,000 favorites ? And there are also characters who still have a completely illogical number of favorites, like this girl from Wonder Egg Priority who is apparently as popular as the main ones despite being a side character no one remembers. That's why I'm wondering how it works because some loss in favorites don't make much sense to me. |
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345EdwardElric said: They need to reset the favourites again and make it captcha based or some other system to prevent bots entirely. Sad that Emilia is being botted this hard considering she's one of my fav characters, Chika too, I want to see how their popularity genuinely grows. Kinda funny people care this much about where they place on a random ass list tho enough to waste time and bot, Emilia's popularity has grown massively this season anyway so I don't see why she's being botted into the top 50, cos she was top 60 legitimately which was more than she was last year. I got really get the effectiveness of this whole anti-botting recalculation if some of the characters who fell hard due to their bots getting removed are again gonna be botted rapidly to their positions before. Like Emilia fell so hard after the recalculation, well below the Top 50....and now she has once again rapidly made her way into the Top 50 in no time. This anti-botting recalculation only do remain effective if the characters who are still persistently being botted after the recalculation are taken care of again soon. |
| I don't understand the reason behind boosting or inflating a rating system in the first place outside of bots or trolling, (which ultimately is a lost cause). No one takes ratings seriously anyway. Maybe that's their point? But we already know it without their intervention lol... |
| Lie until what you want to be true becomes truth. Lie until you can't remember what's a lie and what isn't. Lie until you aren't lying anymore! Figures  |
| I noticed that my one of my favorites was getting 2 or 3 every other day and was close to getting 600 favs now he is back down to 488. Well it was nice while it lasted too bad those were bots to boost and not legitimate users |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| There are still boost characters, no? Chika Fujiwara climbs the rankings (from p101 to p71 in a short time) |
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CoolSoda said: This is some proletariat word if I saw oneThis is a nice feature, more power to the developers of MAL @_Alysha_: well you mustn't assume otherwise @tokihikki: suck it Chizuru. |
| There is like 2 weeks delay in my recent reading list I randomly bought discount/second hand manga with cute/mysterious cover.  Use Personal Blacklist extension in Chrome if you just want to Google for a series synopsis, without google slapping MAL score in it. 3/1 |
StrawHatTitan said: That should put an end to the ''but the favs are all bots'' argument. Good job mal. Go Leviiiiiiii!!! ikr, someone said Lelouch is only on top because of bots, now he can shut up |
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| what if you have to complete CAPTCHA before scoring or favoriting a characters, but after you score something (not favorite something) which means you passed the CAPTCHA, after 30 days (optional but at least 12 days) you will be able to unlock the mode to favorite or score something without any CAPTCHA. sounds annoying to new users but they also have to understand. of course this is to new users to stop bots |
DayyanoEYEMay 15, 2021 9:39 AM
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| Good, I care about those ratings just enough to be happy that Luffy isn't getting that 1st place. A matter of principle for me. He should be in top-10 most horrible characters in existence, as far as I'm concerned. Was worried about him sitting at the top by the time I register here. Otherwise, I don't care about favourites rating all that much. |
| Just want to note that we're monitoring and aware that some botted characters are rising again. Please be assured that those favourites will be corrected as many times as they need to be. |
| I have a mild feeling that a cult of Sakura Bots are on the uprising again, even though Fate Stay Night media hasn't been trending lately. https://myanimelist.net/character/500/Sakura_Matou |
petran79 said: Kiyotaka696 said: what if you have to complete CAPTCHA before scoring or favoriting a characters, but after you score something (not favorite something) which means you passed the CAPTCHA, after 30 days (optional but at least 12 days) you will be able to unlock the mode to favorite or score something without any CAPTCHA. sounds annoying to new users but they also have to understand. of course this is to new users to stop bots Captcha should be anime themed , eg choose characters with flat chests in the picture genius idea, that would make it less annoying, in fact it won't even be annoying to some people, but some people don't like ecchi stuffs so it should be optionable to choose normal CAPTCHA or anime-type CAPTCHA. ah but all this ideas are useless and fantasy, i don't think this idea will be accepted anyways |
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| You guys are doing a really excellent job. As a developer myself, I understand just how difficult it can be to correctly identify patterns and action them accordingly. It's a credit to your developers that you've been collecting enough data over a long enough period to track this kind of thing down at all. Keep up the good work. SoldierDream said: You just can't possibly tell me that out of Goku's 46,000 favorites, 24,000 were bots. That's just impossible, no one cares about DB in this site for that to have been the case. Now he's soon gonna be out of the top 50. Fucking gross. That's probably the exact attitude that the people responsible for botting him had. The MAL team wouldn't be taking action unless they were sure about their algorithm for detecting fakes. For them to take such decisive action indicates to me that they're confident about the fake account identification. HeshamJohnny said: conrrr said: Your idea would be perfect if account activation is measured by member activity on the site but no it is all about time which means that bots effect would be just delayed for the 30 days and then will count so we achieved nothing we have to be strict to stop these trolls That would seriously be offputting for new members. A better idea would be for new member's reviews and character favourites to not contribute to the favourites list and shows score until a certain period of time has passed; so new members can still favourite characters and review shows but this won't affect the sites systems until a date has passed from account activation. idek if this is possible but it's an idea. People designing bots aren't stupid. It's not like the bot accounts are just created, do the job and then forgotten about. A developer could just have a program that sits there for a month taking random actions with thousands of accounts in order to make them look legitimate. I'm sure the MAL team are smart enough to keep their methods for identifying bot accounts a secret. There are more advanced techniques for identifying fake accounts that they could use. They likely use a many layered approach that provides a confidence level for each account. Certain behaviours would reduce the confidence level while others increase it. I can't be 100% sure that this is the approach that MAL are taking, but this is what I would do. |
Zei33May 16, 2021 4:24 PM
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petran79 said: or pick the girls and it just shows a bunch of traps Kiyotaka696 said: what if you have to complete CAPTCHA before scoring or favoriting a characters, but after you score something (not favorite something) which means you passed the CAPTCHA, after 30 days (optional but at least 12 days) you will be able to unlock the mode to favorite or score something without any CAPTCHA. sounds annoying to new users but they also have to understand. of course this is to new users to stop bots Captcha should be anime themed , eg choose characters with flat chests in the picture |
Vaguelyweebish said: Sheesh! People are THAT obsessive that they will waste their programming talents to make their favorite fictional characters more recognized??? I shouldn't be surprised by this point. -_- Nah it's not like that. Programmers grow their skill by challenging themselves. More likely than not, a few people just thought, "wouldn't it be cool if I could make a program to do this?" And went ahead and did it. In a similar vein, I wanted to make a MAL app for Samsung TVs. I got about half way through with it before I shelved it due to lack of time. I still learned a lot about authenticating a user with an API using OAuth2. The people making bots to affect MAL stats probably learned plenty and were able to transfer some of the skills into a more professional setting. Programming is all a matter of experience. |
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| Keep up the good work, guys. And thank you for highlighting Senjougahara's queen status. |
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| Woah this is something new for me ~never thought Lelouch got that much of spotlight considering that anime is bland for me. still Happy to see Guts still in top#100 list though. |
Once a flower withered, it can never bloom again.. |
Kineta said: east or west, Kineta is the best.Just want to note that we're monitoring and aware that some botted characters are rising again. Please be assured that those favourites will be corrected as many times as they need to be. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| I was traumatized when I noticed Ichigo in the Top 50 few days before this. Thankfully it is fixed now 😁 |
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| Glad to see that MAL right away once again took care of the persistent bots boosting certain characters even after the "anti-botting recalculation" was done the first time. RIP Emilia & Chika who were rapidly being reinstated to their "previous" high positions through bots lol. Good job in taking of the issue yet again, right away when it was needed, MAL. 😊 |
| "There's no such thing as a painless lesson, they just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah... a heart made full-metal." ~Edward Elric |
Drizzl said: Why does it seem like the character favourite numbers never seem to be going up?? Even with growth in this websites popularity. You'd think numbers would be increasing, quite weird.. I wonder how there bot removal system works. because its simply bullshit... old characters from old shows has virtually no movement for a year or more and some even has less than they have a year ago what i want to know is how sure the admins are if the deleted numbers are all bots, how sure |
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