Stop being idiotic, and complaining about the characters looking similar to Fairy tail.

GandalfEr said:


Congrats! You must be magical creature that knows the future outcome of this manga/anime. Lol

Linux_2020 said:
Fairy Tail, Rave Master, and Edens Zero are made by the same person(Hiro Mashima)...
That's the reason why they have the same art....
There's no reason to complain...
Only Idiots do it..

Pyth79 said:


No I'm not, which is why I'm saying the stories are similar.



Having the same artwork and having the characters look exactly the same are not the same thing though. Even idiots know that

Linux_2020 said:

Well of course, the stories are different, Edens Zero is into Sci-fi with Space Exploration into the cosmos while Fairy Tail is more in to fantasy with dragons and wizards. What I meant is having the same artwork though.. duh..

for example:
RAVE Master, Fairy Tail and Edens Zero - Works of Hiro Mashima

they have the same art right?? Understand now??
even Idiots know that

Weebbe said:
I don't think the characters themselves are too bad, but Happy is just straight up Happy, the wings are just removed.

Pyth79 said:


You can like it if you want, but as a whole, it is written the same way as Fairy Tail, the scenario follows the same tropes, the only change is the universe. I wasn't surprised even once while reading, and I'm no medium, I just knew what happened in Fairy Tail, and guessed what would happen based on that, that's all

daft_mariner said:
To me, it just sounds like you're chatting out of your ass. You respond to a comment claiming that Fairy Tail and Edens Zero are completely different, by saying that you can like it if you want to, but then immediately continue saying that it's same as Fairy Tail.

It's pretty useless banter, because I could just as equally say that I've watched all of Fairy Tail and read all of Edens Zero so far and say that they have plenty of differences, the same as any shounen would have if not more. And nothing would change. No one would change their mind.

It just seems like you're being a smartass in a topic that didn't go beyond two steps. Hell, i'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say that Edens Zero copied characters from Fairy Tail. And? So what? Is that really a point of criticism? As if this is that one instance when bringing it up matters the most. And whilst you brought up 'nekketsu' tropes, you also say it's without innovation. Nekketsu is already used to describe something generic and common to shounen. And then you say it's without innovation, which would make it the level of Dragon Ball.

Actually, i'm interested to hear how the hell do you justify that.

Rivalay said:
Yeah, lol, they are just toxic ignorant dickheads. People complaining about similar character looks aren't real weebs. They're just a shame. Complaining about similar character looks is the same as complaining about movies having the same actors

USSMidir said:

There's a big difference between a defined art style and copy pasting characters into your new work. Mashima doesn't know how to create a new interesting story with new interesting characters, so he's milking the fairy tale verse for all it's worth

Rivalay said:

And again, someone who obviously never readed it or only 5 chapters. First of all, the story is completely different from fairy tails and even better. So he's able to create a new interesting story. Secondly, the characters have completely different personalities, so they are technically "new". Lmao there are so many mangaka who did the same thing, "copying" own characters. Yall obviously just hate Mashima for fairy tail... Its literally the same, if a movie has the same actors as another movie.

USSMidir said:

Uuuh no. Movie actors can't change their physical appearance. That's literally the most retarded comparison I've ever seen on this website, which says a lot, because anime discussion threads aren't known for their intelligence

Rivalay said:

Lol you only answered my last quote, so you are out of arguments? You are actually a good example for the missing intelligence on this platform, because you're obviously just push your hate for fairy tail on his new, improved work. Just give it a chance lol

USSMidir said:

Okay, this is kinda my stance; Eden's Zero might be decent, but the fairy tale references make me not want to go anywhere near it. (character designs, I've heard that some of the characters have similar personalities to their FT counterparts, some review mentioned that the power system is basically just the same as FT). FT was a joke, and it was only more frustrating because it clearly had good parts. I still think the tournament arc was good, and some subplots could have been amazing, but Mashima clearly doesn't display any skill as a writer in that series. (the most egrigious example would be the 7 year timeskip). So yeah, EZ might be good, but I have some SERIOUS doubts considering how Mashima can't cut ties with his most popular, and worst, work.

Rivalay said:

Fair enough. Imo Edens Zero is a big improvement. The author stated that he had not a real plan how to continue his series while writing fairy tail, that's probably why it got worse. But for edens zero he has a plan how his writing continues and even ends. Tbh except for the designs, it really doesn't reminds me of Fairy tail. To me, it's more like a mix of One Piece, dragonball and star wars and I really like these works. Well, it has still fairy tails fanservice, but I'm cool with that.

Rivalay said:

Bruh he stated it. Read the epilogue of Edens Zero Volume 3. I just said what he said in the epilogue of vol 3.

DJK1NG_Gaming said:


No he stated he diidn't create the entire story from start to finish. He created the backstory for the characters and created the story as he went along.

There different forms of WRITINGS styles and practices.
No where shape of form he said he didn't plan Fairy Tail at alll.

If that was the case END DRAGON ZEREF and everything else wouldn't have tied together perfectly. Yall just don't like "HUR HUR POWER OF FRIENDSHIP" and use that as a critique.
When it was stated time and time again that MAGIC is powered by FEELINGS of the user.

Rivalay said:

And lol, I never said that he created the entire story from start to finish. I just said he had a plan (not an exact plan like in rave) for edens zero. And that's exactly what he stated in the epilogue.

DJK1NG_Gaming said:

And you use that as a critique against Fairy Tail and use it to say Fairy Tail is worst. Which makes no sense.

Blue_Maroon said:
It isn’t really the similar art style that people point to, but the blatant reusing of character designs and likeness. This is obviously intentional by the author to say “Hey if you liked Fairy Tail you’ll like this manga (anime)!” because of how overt it is.

But, it is still valid for people to criticize that as lazy and off-putting to people that didn’t like Fairy Tail. Reusing character designs and archetypes can be seen as lacking creative vision and can make the product less appealing to people that were not fans of the previous product.

DJK1NG_Gaming said:


So Hiro Mashima isnt allowed to do when every mangaka does it?
Even Akira Toriyama does it for Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger and many other series he did characters for.

Blue_Maroon said:

I haven’t seen any of those series so I cannot judge how he did it. I have seen a good amount of Fairy Tail and I have seen the first two episodes of Eden Zero so I can judge how it is done here.

DJK1NG_Gaming said:


This is the problem you people. Yall judge shit without any knowledge.

Stop judging stuff by it's cover.

Written the same way =/= being the same, don't put words in my mouth.

Your post is as useless as mine then, why would you have the right to write useless banter while I don't ?

Everything is a point of criticism in a piece of work, if you can look past the characters being identical looking, well good on you, but it's obvious I'm not the only one who don't like it. And I said that "the only things "different" from tropes are things the author already did in Fairy Tail", so no that would not make it Dragon Ball.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1811817

Hik_aro said:
To the people who are giving this horrible ratings cuz of the artstyle, pls stop bandwagoning the hate train and attempting to be an anime critic because you're not. PS: To those that geniunely don't like watching the show, thats alright. I respect ur opinion. I just want to clear this up because i hate seeing this stupid arguement about the character designs everywhere.

First and foremost, its Hiromashimas artstyle. Its blatantly obvious his designs will be similar. It isn't plagiarism. Even if it is, where were yall at when Moh psycho 100 dropped? Mob is literally saitama with hair?. How about To love ru and Black cat? The MCs of both those shows are literally the same in terms of physical appearance minus the hair colour.

I hope this helps u come to understand that its mashimas artstyle cuz i have literally seen 20 comments about this in the past 5 minutes.

Delinqq said:
Why are you people unable to accept that it's valid criticism that Mashima straight up re-used characters, even their personalities?

You can't call something an "easter egg" if it's the whole cast being the same characters but in a different universe. That's not what an easter egg is.

Stop whining because of other people that are whining, it's lame. If you enjoy the show or feel overly defensive towards Mashima's art, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be like that. Saying that Mashima re-uses characters is as simple as criticizing his creativity, and it's a legitimate criticism.

He's not the first to do it (Boruto as of recent), but there's a difference between, relating characters by making designs that show similarities, and straight up just making the exact same character.