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Tyraq said:
The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

But it did. You can see that the look of her mouth/teeth are a bit different

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Tyraq said:
The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

Well, regarding this
The suggested theory is that Ymir has been in her “mindless titan form “ for so many years which limited her change in form when she ate marcel

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GoZha said:

Tyraq said:
The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

But it did. You can see that the look of her mouth/teeth are a bit different

But the form isn't different at all untill when Porco eats her.

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Tyraq said:
The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

Well, regarding this
The suggested theory is that Ymir has been in her “mindless titan form “ for so many years which limited her change in form when she ate marcel

Good point.Hope they'll update it or it'll become a plot hole.

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amedoanas said:

Tyraq said:
The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

Well, regarding this
The suggested theory is that Ymir has been in her “mindless titan form “ for so many years which limited her change in form when she ate marcel

I don't think any theory is needed for this because Ymir's Titan changed a bit after eating. Just the thing is jaw titan resembles a mindless Titan a lot in Ymir's case but I don't think this is a plot hole.

I here everywhere that this show is having this show is having so many plot holes so decided to ask about them

Feb 7, 2021 9:05 PM

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My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

Feb 7, 2021 9:16 PM

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

They didn't carry founding Titans. Only the king of the walls, or, at least now, Eren, has that. Also, there is a huge distance to cover between the port and the ocean, and these guys are kids, so they can't exactly use their powers indefinitely, and run through. Plus, people are a lot less likely to believe a marleyan was snuck in than a Eldian was. They'd have to be kids, since who would suspect kids of horrible things? But of course, no marleyan would willingly go to Paradis. Why would they? According to them, it's where the devils lived.

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

They didn't carry founding Titans. Only the king of the walls, or, at least now, Eren, has that. Also, there is a huge distance to cover between the port and the ocean, and these guys are kids, so they can't exactly use their powers indefinitely, and run through. Plus, people are a lot less likely to believe a marleyan was snuck in than a Eldian was. They'd have to be kids, since who would suspect kids of horrible things?

Also they chose kids because it is easier to brain wash them

Feb 7, 2021 9:20 PM

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I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

Their main goal was to retake the founding titan. I don't think they would have been able to do that without titans. Even in the titan forms they were defeated (Bertholdt, Annie, Reiner). How could 4-5 normal Marleyans have taken Eren when he could have stomped them all in one go? Any other person except from the titans would have been a liability.

Feb 7, 2021 9:23 PM

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Guveron said:
I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

I think because it would have damaged the walls and awakened the wall Titans which they did not wanted .

Feb 7, 2021 9:25 PM

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

There are many pure titans surrounding walls. so normal man cant go they need titans. It seems you are a new watcher who skips some scenes and finshes the anime soon.

Feb 7, 2021 9:26 PM

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If im not mistaken grisha after inheriting owl attacker titan,he lives longer,15 years old rather than anyone when he escape from marley to paradis ,the curse of ymir is 13 years old while grisha is 15 years old live longer

i also forget this one lol,i found it in my indonesian language discussion on youtube

but this can be wrong depends on the context:
1.Grisha is a doctor,which can expand his life,but using what medicine?
2.What mikasa says is true,when eren says,i only live a years...
then mikasa spontaneously says no,it's wrong,it's false.

well who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Feb 7, 2021 9:33 PM

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If im not mistaken grisha after inheriting owl attacker titan,he lives longer,15 years old rather than anyone when he escape from marley to paradis ,the curse of ymir is 13 years old while grisha is 15 years old live longer

i also forget this one lol,i found it in my indonesian language discussion on youtube

but this can be wrong depends on the context:
1.Grisha is a doctor,which can expand his life,but using what medicine?
2.What mikasa says is true,when eren says,i only live a years...
then mikasa spontaneously says no,it's wrong,it's false.

well who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nothing can stop Ymir's curse in my opinion . Also can you explain how you get this 15 years figure

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Guveron said:
I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

It would be an unnecessary waste of energy for bertolt, their plan was to use the chaos of the pure titans getting in to slip into the crowd so he had to break the gate, nothing more

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Scordolo said:

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But it did. You can see that the look of her mouth/teeth are a bit different

But the form isn't different at all untill when Porco eats her.

Ymir's Titan does change appearance. Mind you each titan shifter has its own unique appearance so the changes between their pure titan and their shifter may vary.

Feb 7, 2021 9:42 PM

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Kyrosys said:
If im not mistaken grisha after inheriting owl attacker titan,he lives longer,15 years old rather than anyone when he escape from marley to paradis ,the curse of ymir is 13 years old while grisha is 15 years old live longer

i also forget this one lol,i found it in my indonesian language discussion on youtube

but this can be wrong depends on the context:
1.Grisha is a doctor,which can expand his life,but using what medicine?
2.What mikasa says is true,when eren says,i only live a years...
then mikasa spontaneously says no,it's wrong,it's false.

well who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Where did you hear that he lived for 15 years after inheriting the Attack Titan?

Feb 7, 2021 9:45 PM

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Taltibalti said:

Scordolo said:

But the form isn't different at all untill when Porco eats her.

Ymir's Titan does change appearance. Mind you each titan shifter has its own unique appearance so the changes between their pure titan and their shifter may vary.

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

Taltibalti said:

Kyrosys said:
If im not mistaken grisha after inheriting owl attacker titan,he lives longer,15 years old rather than anyone when he escape from marley to paradis ,the curse of ymir is 13 years old while grisha is 15 years old live longer

i also forget this one lol,i found it in my indonesian language discussion on youtube

but this can be wrong depends on the context:
1.Grisha is a doctor,which can expand his life,but using what medicine?
2.What mikasa says is true,when eren says,i only live a years...
then mikasa spontaneously says no,it's wrong,it's false.

well who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Where did you hear that he lived for 15 years after inheriting the Attack Titan?

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

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Armin surviving a 50 meters fall after being burned by berthold . It could be possible, some months ago there was in the news a plane crash a where baby 1 or 2 years old was the only survivor so if that happened in real life then armin surviving is possible but it still very plot convenient to my taste .

Feb 7, 2021 9:49 PM

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It's a bit weird that you're actively looking for plot holes. If anything, that seems like you're just killing off personal enjoyment

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A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

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Taltibalti said:
A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

Well maybe the spoken language is the same but the way it's written is different. Kind of like how Mandarin Chinese is spoken both in mainland China and in Taiwan but they write their words differently

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Taltibalti said:
A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

My guess would be that they use a different script

Feb 7, 2021 10:07 PM

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Bertholdt's Colossal Titan took mere seconds to fully evaporate in episode 5. Meanwhile that's not the case in other episodes.

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Guveron said:
I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

They probably didn't want to break the wall and release the titans within it, just the gate so that titans from outside could infiltrate.

Feb 7, 2021 10:19 PM

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GoZha said:

Taltibalti said:

Ymir's Titan does change appearance. Mind you each titan shifter has its own unique appearance so the changes between their pure titan and their shifter may vary.

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

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Where did you hear that he lived for 15 years after inheriting the Attack Titan?

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

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SlipperyCloud said:

Guveron said:
I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

It would be an unnecessary waste of energy for bertolt, their plan was to use the chaos of the pure titans getting in to slip into the crowd so he had to break the gate, nothing more

is the nuke something that the colossal titan can control?. From what I read on the wiki, it said that "A Titan's transformation usually causes the destruction of the area in which they have transformed in. However, the Colossal Titan is the only known Titan capable of increasing the blast radius to a larger scale, in which it usually resembles a nuclear explosion." so it's not an ability. It's a Titan Transformation

Feb 7, 2021 10:34 PM

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Maybe when Kruger justified turning Dina into a Titan to prevent Marley from capturing her and using her to pump out babies. It's not like Marley could have gotten their hands on her after he killed all the soldiers and destroyed the ship.

Personally, I find it hard to pick out plot holes because much of the supernatural stuff is shrouded in mystery much like the many things scientists and other researchers try to unravel about our world ... like how the brain works, what is gravity like at a quantum level, and probably others. It's all presented in such a way that you can only form theories based on what happens.

So to say "Titans can't work like that" you have to find clear evidence that confirms it. But how can you do that? Finding a case where "that" didn't happen in the show isn't the same as the show telling you without room for interpretation that "Titans can't work like that." There could be something different between the two scenarios that we don't know about.

And as for the actions of people within the world, people have a tendency to make poor choices all the time ... such as me spending so much time on this forum post lol. So, when a character decides to do something they shouldn't ... is it a plot hole? Or is it the character simply making a poor decision that's in line with their character?

Maybe the show presents a bad choice as a good choice in some way, like with the music or something, then I can see it being a plot hole. But it's almost never easy to pick out. There's too much to unravel in order to uncover the plot hole, and at that point it doesn't really matter that much does it?

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What I find the most interesting plot hole in AOT is that how did the Eldiands of Paradis came up with the 9 titan names. Certainly they calling Annie's titan the female titan, Zeke's titan the beast titan, Bertolt's titan as colossal titan and Reiner's titan as Armored Titan isn't a coincidence considering all of these are actually accurate names given to the shifters by Marley

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brayka said:
Armin surviving a 50 meters fall after being burned by berthold . It could be possible, some months ago there was in the news a plane crash a where baby 1 or 2 years old was the only survivor so if that happened in real life then armin surviving is possible but it still very plot convenient to my taste .

Yeah ot's a plot armor but I don't mind it as plot conviniece is important for plot driven stories such as AOT

Feb 7, 2021 10:40 PM

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Kyrosys said:

GoZha said:

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

I don't remember this. According to the fandom wiki, Kruger gave Grisha the Attack Titan in 832, which means Grisha died on his 13th year

Feb 7, 2021 10:43 PM

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Kyrosys said:

GoZha said:

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

Also, if this is the case, does it mean Grisha took 2 years to make it to the walls? I don't think so. I think he both inherited his power and met Keith in the same year

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GoZha said:

Kyrosys said:

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

Also, if this is the case, does it mean Grisha took 2 years to make it to the walls? I don't think so. I think he both inherited his power and met Keith in the same year

If it takes 2 year is probably the way he lives on the wall,imagine 2 years just for a marathon with your alter body

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Kyrosys said:

GoZha said:

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

Can you give me a source that he gave him the attack titan in the year 830 because the wikis say he inherited it in 832, which makes sense.

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Kyrosys said:

GoZha said:

I'm surprised that more people didn't notice this.

Yeah I don't remember hearing this either. Eren ate Grisha when he was 10, so Grisha had at most 3 years to get to the walls, marry Carla, and do whatever the hell else he did. Everything makes sense to me

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

grisha inherit attack titan in 832 not 830 lol (source : aotwiki)

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Kyrosys said:

Grisha inherit the attacker by kruger in 830,keith tell the cadets that he actually met with grisha at 832,then eren is given the attack titan at 845,845-830=15

Which is of course ymir curse dont kills grisha

Or possibly, when he steal the founder, his lifespan actually stack/doubled but i don't think this is true

@taltibalti here you go

grisha inherit attack titan in 832 not 830 lol (source : aotwiki)

Also for @taltibalti man if kruger is on 13 years old on the rescue of grisha,he would die and no one won't inherit him,the year the restoration is captured supported by zeke,is 830 and after kruger says if you want to save mikasa and armin,you must do this it has been inherited,that's it!

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Kyrosys said:

ackermanblood said:

grisha inherit attack titan in 832 not 830 lol (source : aotwiki)

Also for @taltibalti man if kruger is on 13 years old on the rescue of grisha,he would die and no one won't inherit him,the year the restoration is captured supported by zeke,is 830 and after kruger says if you want to save mikasa and armin,you must do this it has been inherited,that's it!

I'll agree with you if you give me a source for the year 830. You keep saying 830 with no evidence to back it up.

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Guveron said:
I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

Maybe because he didn't want to kill Reiner.

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Taltibalti said:

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Also for @taltibalti man if kruger is on 13 years old on the rescue of grisha,he would die and no one won't inherit him,the year the restoration is captured supported by zeke,is 830 and after kruger says if you want to save mikasa and armin,you must do this it has been inherited,that's it!

I'll agree with you if you give me a source for the year 830. You keep saying 830 with no evidence to back it up.

Holy kek,well if i'm mistaken then it's 832 if the restoration,is captured

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Scordolo said:

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I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

Maybe because he didn't want to kill Reiner.

Lol no,their objective is take the founding titan,and in s2,it's revealed that eren has the founder imagine you doom everything and suddenly killed the founder lmao

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ak_hentaimon said:
What I find the most interesting plot hole in AOT is that how did the Eldiands of Paradis came up with the 9 titan names. Certainly they calling Annie's titan the female titan, Zeke's titan the beast titan, Bertolt's titan as colossal titan and Reiner's titan as Armored Titan isn't a coincidence considering all of these are actually accurate names given to the shifters by Marley

Because it would be weird for the watcher hearing different names for the shifter.

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Kyrosys said:

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Maybe because he didn't want to kill Reiner.

Lol no,their objective is take the founding titan,and in s2,it's revealed that eren has the founder imagine you doom everything and suddenly killed the founder lmao

Yeah.THAT and he also didn't want to kill Reiner.

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What I find the most interesting plot hole in AOT is that how did the Eldiands of Paradis came up with the 9 titan names. Certainly they calling Annie's titan the female titan, Zeke's titan the beast titan, Bertolt's titan as colossal titan and Reiner's titan as Armored Titan isn't a coincidence considering all of these are actually accurate names given to the shifters by Marley

That is done to not confuse the viewers, I think.

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SHUBHAM019 said:
Can anyone please tell me some of the plotholes in Attack on Titan. I am interested in knowing them ( I have a few of my own ) . Manga readers please stay out of it and do not use content ahead of ep 9 of season 4 for whatsoever the reason . This is my kind request to you Manga readers .

I can think of only one when The Colossal Titan suddenly appeared in Ep 4 and the suddenly vanished in ep 5...we knew nothing about them in ep 5 but Now we know the deteroting body should be there 🤔

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