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Dec 21, 2020 4:37 AM
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Yes, I checked out the manga equivalence of the 3 episodes so far and came to the conclusion that you all saw. I'll exclude episode 1 since everyone have acknowledged that they basically cut nothing except replacing Reiner taking down the tower with destroying the tanks and the international law that made the two gunmen hesitated that don't matter that much. The other two cutting already started heavy debate so let's examine, here is the list:

Ep 2:
- Cut out the line about Marley's weak marine force: Udo's frustration in ep 1 is more than enough to suggest their incompetence
- Zeke's Scream ability: Can be explained later so let's wait
- Zeke's thoughts: basically recaps
- Ackerman family urban legend: Probably a later info-dump just with a simple "So the legend was true"(or whatever later on in the story), and how the hell did Zeke say with certain there are only 2 Ackermans left
- Reiner spitting out punishments to warn Falco on the train: Not that important, as if anyone can't tell they will be beyond cruel
- Falco recaps on Reiner's "achievements": Self explanatory
- Gabi joke: Cute and all but zero relevance to the story
- No flashback images: Thank you for not treating viewers like idiots
- Social praise for both Reiner and Gabi, plus one long ass procedure scene: No plot value
- Pieck ass: My single strong critism for the cutting, WRONG MOVE FROM HAYASHI

Ep 3:
- Cut out others' performances during warrior training: Not really significant since the scene's main focus is Reiner's lack of expertise
- Reiner and his mom's joy over the candidate spot: Depends on whether the fact that Reiner will become a warrior affects on your emotions toward the scene to decide if the cut is good
- Why Cart and Beast won't join Paradis operation: Think closely and the answer is obvious that Paradis is not the only nation
- Goodbye from mom: From quiet personal dialogue to shouting from shore, nothing to nitpick
- Final notes before operation: not significant, unless you are hyper obsessed with details of the operation and even then, these are rather minor ones
- Running scene: The heavy breathing is enough an indicator
- ABR taking turn carrying each other to wall Maria: Expected considering the road is 100km long
- Bert admiring the giant wall: Nice but little to no value plot wise so understandable
- ABR adjusting the plan during farming session: mostly fun and empty dialogues but do explain why they hesitate to break wall Rose, bad move to cut since it is not that easy to figure out, though itself is somewhat illogical in my opinion
- Annie escaped Kenny by the sewer: Suggested through her dialgue the next scene
- Reiner listing different options to search for the royal family: Probably not much considering we knew what will happen and most of the suggestions are kinda naive, but then they are still kids anyway so
- Flashbacks during the gun scene: obvious cut but the scene probably can only work in manga form where you can't hear Reiner's two conflicting personalities, on screen and a good chance it will just look goofy

Of course they also paraphrase a lot of dialogues but on close inspection, the messages stay. Overall, this is a really faithful adaptation content wise, though little nitpicks and pacing can be improved just by cutting the OP and ED. Sorry for no images though
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Dec 21, 2020 5:27 AM
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all i can say ep3 was rushed it was very bad epiosde i don't read manga but there are many things removed and i don't understand till i read those chapters
Dec 21, 2020 5:35 AM
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ahmed9talha said:
all i can say ep3 was rushed it was very bad epiosde i don't read manga but there are many things removed and i don't understand till i read those chapters


It didn't felt rushed at all. I would say it was fast paced (but Not Rushed). Tell me What things you didn't understand?
Dec 21, 2020 5:50 AM
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Darkknight8 said:
ahmed9talha said:
all i can say ep3 was rushed it was very bad epiosde i don't read manga but there are many things removed and i don't understand till i read those chapters


It didn't felt rushed at all. I would say it was fast paced (but Not Rushed). Tell me What things you didn't understand?
Darkknight8 said:
ahmed9talha said:
all i can say ep3 was rushed it was very bad epiosde i don't read manga but there are many things removed and i don't understand till i read those chapters


It didn't felt rushed at all. I would say it was fast paced (but Not Rushed). Tell me What things you didn't understand?
why annie was sleep after destorying the wall and she didn't make anything , why was she chase kenny and why weren't they choose zeke or pieck for the mission ?? and other panels are removed to link the events together .
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Darkknight8 said:
ahmed9talha said:
all i can say ep3 was rushed it was very bad epiosde i don't read manga but there are many things removed and i don't understand till i read those chapters


It didn't felt rushed at all. I would say it was fast paced (but Not Rushed). Tell me What things you didn't understand?


Lol it felt rushed af. A lot of people in reactions had to pause the episode / rewatch some scenes on multiple occasions. Annie is not shown helping in destroying the wall. The Annie and Kenny scene was so random, does not even show how she gets away. No pauses whatsoever conveyed no pathos at all. Do you think it is ok for a suicide attempt scene to be "fast paced"?
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Hiqo said:
Darkknight8 said:


It didn't felt rushed at all. I would say it was fast paced (but Not Rushed). Tell me What things you didn't understand?


Lol it felt rushed af. A lot of people in reactions had to pause the episode / rewatch some scenes on multiple occasions. Annie is not shown helping in destroying the wall. The Annie and Kenny scene was so random, does not even show how she gets away. No pauses whatsoever conveyed no pathos at all. Do you think it is ok for a suicide attempt scene to be "fast paced"?
that is mappa fault they adapted more than 3 chapters in one episode!! and the strange thing about isyama who said it was great ep!!
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ahmed9talha said:
Hiqo said:


Lol it felt rushed af. A lot of people in reactions had to pause the episode / rewatch some scenes on multiple occasions. Annie is not shown helping in destroying the wall. The Annie and Kenny scene was so random, does not even show how she gets away. No pauses whatsoever conveyed no pathos at all. Do you think it is ok for a suicide attempt scene to be "fast paced"?
that is mappa fault they adapted more than 3 chapters in one episode!! and the strange thing about isyama who said it was great ep!!
more like kodansha's fault for giving only 16 episodes and don't act like uprising in the anime was perfect
Dec 21, 2020 7:09 AM
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Bababazooka69 said:
ahmed9talha said:
that is mappa fault they adapted more than 3 chapters in one episode!! and the strange thing about isyama who said it was great ep!!
more like kodansha's fault for giving only 16 episodes and don't act like uprising in the anime was perfect
i think the studio that determine the ep count not the producer
Dec 21, 2020 7:12 AM
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ahmed9talha said:
Bababazooka69 said:
more like kodansha's fault for giving only 16 episodes and don't act like uprising in the anime was perfect
i think the studio that determine the ep count not the producer


It couldn't have been more then 16 anyway , Kingdom returns in April and it has the same time and day slot if this year was affected by COVID then maybe it would have had more
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ahmed9talha said:
Bababazooka69 said:
more like kodansha's fault for giving only 16 episodes and don't act like uprising in the anime was perfect
i think the studio that determine the ep count not the producer
no the producers kodansha decides the episode count also the schedule like by what time the season will be released
Dec 21, 2020 7:46 AM
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A little bummed that they cut the reason as to why Annie’s missing from the Shiganshina assault in particular and some of the scenes not getting enough time to breath. But it was still a pretty good episode, honestly.

With that said though, I’m concerned with the pacing in the upcoming episodes. This part of the story is a mostly about the buildup, answers and world building which basically means that the pacing has to be a little on the slow side and not the rushed end.
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Agree with OP. I just read those chapters and the cuts for the most part were smart, although some of the ep 3 are indeed questionable. And I'll say more, the idea of cutting is actually great. Reading this part made me realize the complaint some manga readers had about this arc felt dragged wasn't because this portion of the audience wanted action non-stopped, but because this arc does have a lot of unnecessary scenes. But still, the anime really needed a bit more screen time to fully work.
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We still might get all the cut content as a special episode. Dedicating a whole special to the Attack on Shiganshina from Warriors' perspective (in depth, with extra scenes) would be awesome.
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Bababazooka69 said:
ahmed9talha said:
i think the studio that determine the ep count not the producer
no the producers kodansha decides the episode count also the schedule like by what time the season will be released


Wouldn't the TV channel also have a say in it as they are the ones that air it
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Bababazooka69 said:
no the producers kodansha decides the episode count also the schedule like by what time the season will be released


Wouldn't the TV channel also have a say in it as they are the ones that air it
yea they do
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Thank you, as an anime only dude this really helps. Once this is finished I might end up reading the Manga at some point.
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all i see is cope kek
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All the little things you said that are irrelevant to the plot do add character and acts as a breathing room.

But also all the major story related content that was cut confuses people who are anime only. It also leads to avoidable speculation as to make sense of the events. If the manga weren't there then I can't imagine you saying the same things.

Admit it. This episode was rushed. Even ep 2 was but this is much worse. Yiu are just making up excuses for Mappa. I get you. I get how you feel but sometimes you just gotta acknowledge bad things when you see it.
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all i see is cope kek


Lol ikr. I do be like that sometimes so I should know.
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Imagine being this eager to diminish others opinions.
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ahmed9talha said:
hat is mappa fault they adapted more than 3 chapters in one episode!! and the strange thing about isyama who said it was great ep!!


Actually they still adapted 2 chapter/episode.
reiner struggle scene was in previous chapter buy it swapped with warrior meeting scene. so eps 3 will be solid flashback episode.

please note that the manga itself since basement reveal scene has very heavy dialogue scene. a lots.
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Alpha_Druid said:
All the little things you said that are irrelevant to the plot do add character and acts as a breathing room.

But also all the major story related content that was cut confuses people who are anime only. It also leads to avoidable speculation as to make sense of the events. If the manga weren't there then I can't imagine you saying the same things.

Admit it. This episode was rushed. Even ep 2 was but this is much worse. Yiu are just making up excuses for Mappa. I get you. I get how you feel but sometimes you just gotta acknowledge bad things when you see it.

Uh, no. I am an anime only and I was never a fan of Mappa so I am certainly not defending them. If any, I am having criticism for both the pacing of the anime and the manga, just the anime made fewer faults than the manga so far but then again, we can disagree.
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_MushiRock11_ said:
A little bummed that they cut the reason as to why Annie’s missing from the Shiganshina assault in particular and some of the scenes not getting enough time to breath. But it was still a pretty good episode, honestly.

With that said though, I’m concerned with the pacing in the upcoming episodes. This part of the story is a mostly about the buildup, answers and world building which basically means that the pacing has to be a little on the slow side and not the rushed end.


When I first saw the episode (anime-only) I just thought that Reiner and Bertholdt proceeded the mission without Annie (her being knocked unconscious with Reiner's choke hold). I kind of thought of it like Annie was dead-set on returning home, but Reiner proceeded anyway, so when she woke up the work had already been done and she had to just go along with the plan.

I've read that one little part though so it makes more sense. However, I don't think my idea of what might've happened was such a bad idea, especially since in many scenes it shows how Annie wants to return home ASAP.
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Moceus said:
Alpha_Druid said:
All the little things you said that are irrelevant to the plot do add character and acts as a breathing room.

But also all the major story related content that was cut confuses people who are anime only. It also leads to avoidable speculation as to make sense of the events. If the manga weren't there then I can't imagine you saying the same things.

Admit it. This episode was rushed. Even ep 2 was but this is much worse. Yiu are just making up excuses for Mappa. I get you. I get how you feel but sometimes you just gotta acknowledge bad things when you see it.

Uh, no. I am an anime only and I was never a fan of Mappa so I am certainly not defending them. If any, I am having criticism for both the pacing of the anime and the manga, just the anime made fewer faults than the manga so far but then again, we can disagree.


>"I'm an anime only"
>"Anime made fewer faults than the manga"

>"Criticizing Mappa"
>Brings up excuses to defend it

Bruh. Your actions speak louder than words.
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Alpha_Druid said:
Moceus said:

Uh, no. I am an anime only and I was never a fan of Mappa so I am certainly not defending them. If any, I am having criticism for both the pacing of the anime and the manga, just the anime made fewer faults than the manga so far but then again, we can disagree.


>"I'm an anime only"
>"Anime made fewer faults than the manga"

>"Criticizing Mappa"
>Brings up excuses to defend it

Bruh. Your actions speak louder than words.
Either ways just from a stand alone episode if we don't consider the manga its close to perfect but its a shame it wasn't able to achieve it
Dec 21, 2020 10:34 PM
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When I first saw the episode (anime-only) I just thought that Reiner and Bertholdt proceeded the mission without Annie (her being knocked unconscious with Reiner's choke hold). I kind of thought of it like Annie was dead-set on returning home, but Reiner proceeded anyway, so when she woke up the work had already been done and she had to just go along with the plan.


Yeah, makes sense. My kid brother, who is currently an anime-only too, felt the same and it saddened me since that doesn’t quite add up. You can’t knock some out out for a day like that xD.

I've read that one little part though so it makes more sense. However, I don't think my idea of what might've happened was such a bad idea, especially since in many scenes it shows how Annie wants to return home ASAP.


Sure it adds up to this line of thought but it doesn’t explain a few other things such as how they managed to get away from the titans and consequently amass all the titans near the walls. And these really make the story more complete and satisfying, especially for people who’ll try to rewatch season 1 later on I imagine.

Also, the whole Annie - Kenny scene felt a little random too. I don’t think it’s easy for anime-onlies to pick that up easily. Feel free to ask if that isn’t clear by the way, I doubt the anime will come back to this.

@BlakexEkalb Right, lol.
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Harsha1314 said:
Alpha_Druid said:


>"I'm an anime only"
>"Anime made fewer faults than the manga"

>"Criticizing Mappa"
>Brings up excuses to defend it

Bruh. Your actions speak louder than words.
Either ways just from a stand alone episode if we don't consider the manga its close to perfect but its a shame it wasn't able to achieve it
Harsha1314 said:
Alpha_Druid said:


>"I'm an anime only"
>"Anime made fewer faults than the manga"

>"Criticizing Mappa"
>Brings up excuses to defend it

Bruh. Your actions speak louder than words.
Either ways just from a stand alone episode if we don't consider the manga its close to perfect but its a shame it wasn't able to achieve it


The anime doesn't exist in a vacuum even if it did, it'd still have the same problems. Problems like confusion and no breathing room. Manga is infinitely better in this regard.
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Alpha_Druid said:
Harsha1314 said:
Either ways just from a stand alone episode if we don't consider the manga its close to perfect but its a shame it wasn't able to achieve it
Harsha1314 said:
Either ways just from a stand alone episode if we don't consider the manga its close to perfect but its a shame it wasn't able to achieve it


The anime doesn't exist in a vacuum even if it did, it'd still have the same problems. Problems like confusion and no breathing room. Manga is infinitely better in this regard.
yes it is like i had to rewatch uprising twice to understand everything that was going on and join the dots. this season in and itself feels like its more binge worthy than a weekly installlment. manga allows u to stop reading or re read to reflect on stuff it can never be the same with the anime and especially this episode aside from covering Reiner's struggle wasn't able to completely capture the atmosphere the Warriors were living in. Sure many anime onlies won't be as bothered because of execution but as someone who knows the story in advance itll be tough to completely relish the episode. also annie and kenny scene caused a lot of confusion id say wait for eng dub to actually understand the scene in one watch
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I finally understood when people said, "the manga was better". Now I know how they felt T-T
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I saw countless anime onlies confused about alot of things like what happened to annie after reiner choked her, did she accept to continue? What is that random scene of kenny and annie, how did she escape him? Why did she stalk him?and alot of misunderstandings, even saw people hate reiner more after this ep instead of loving him because they didn't show his suffering all they showed is how he failed his mission misrebly.
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And here comes the MAPPA fanboys to whiteknight MAPPA. Such shitheads. I also agree that this episode was hella rushed, and thank god I gave up in ep 2 and started reading the manga, I actually understood ep 3 better thanks to the manga.

I also made a thread about how the anime was rushed and had a lot of cut content, MAPPA fanboys took over my thread and started their assault.

"B-but uprising had cut content too!!!" Oh fucking shut up please.




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Arin-san said:
And here comes the MAPPA fanboys to whiteknight MAPPA. Such shitheads. I also agree that this episode was hella rushed, and thank god I gave up in ep 2 and started reading the manga, I actually understood ep 3 better thanks to the manga.

I also made a thread about how the anime was rushed and had a lot of cut content, MAPPA fanboys took over my thread and started their assault.

"B-but uprising had cut content too!!!" Oh fucking shut up please.
shut up your arguement for episode 2 was still not relevant. but ep3 messed up bad
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Alpha_Druid said:
Moceus said:

Uh, no. I am an anime only and I was never a fan of Mappa so I am certainly not defending them. If any, I am having criticism for both the pacing of the anime and the manga, just the anime made fewer faults than the manga so far but then again, we can disagree.


>"I'm an anime only"
>"Anime made fewer faults than the manga"

>"Criticizing Mappa"
>Brings up excuses to defend it

Bruh. Your actions speak louder than words.

I checked only the chapters adpated so far because people on both sides wine non-stop and yes, in terms of story telling so far, the manga makes way more mistakes, like why need so many recaps? All the episodes are far from perfect, but cutting content overall is not the main issue, in fact it is doing much more good than harm(still doesn't justify the harms, though).

And yes, there are obvious pacing issues but I disagree with the idea of fixing it by adding the filler scenes and instead, cut out the OP and ED, keep the important scenes(Annie's fatigue), restructure them(Annie perspective transition is confusing) and extend the calmer scenes like Reiner's departure and Bert sleeping position dialogue. But that's not the point, this post is more of an appreciation for all the efforts went into the storyboarding so far, while not perfect but still great and somehow people just keep blowing it up.
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Harsha1314 said:
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And here comes the MAPPA fanboys to whiteknight MAPPA. Such shitheads. I also agree that this episode was hella rushed, and thank god I gave up in ep 2 and started reading the manga, I actually understood ep 3 better thanks to the manga.

I also made a thread about how the anime was rushed and had a lot of cut content, MAPPA fanboys took over my thread and started their assault.

"B-but uprising had cut content too!!!" Oh fucking shut up please.
shut up your arguement for episode 2 was still not relevant. but ep3 messed up bad

Yeah you need to shut up MAPPA fanboy, what do you mean my argument wasn't relevant? I exactly said this in my OP how the later eps was gonna be rushed as well, this is why I told people to read the manga, but MAPPA fanboys like you hijacked the thread and started saying "oMGGg yOu gAvE uP tOo eArLy" and now look what happened to episode 3. And now you pretend to be a saint? Yeah you better stop talking to me.
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I said keep your hands on the table
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Arin-san said:
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shut up your arguement for episode 2 was still not relevant. but ep3 messed up bad

Yeah you need to shut up MAPPA fanboy, what do you mean my argument wasn't relevant? I exactly said this in my OP how the later eps was gonna be rushed as well, this is why I told people to read the manga, but disgusting MAPPA fanboys like you hijacked the thread and started saying "oMGGg yOu gAvE uP tOo eArLy" and now look what happened to episode 3. And now you pretend to be a saint? Yeah you better stop talking to me.
im not fanboying cause i barely know mappa. this episode wasn't as great but not even half as bad as u made it up to be. but even now your arguements to drop the anime for manga based on ep 2 is shit.
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all i see is cope kek
what's there to cope with if you like it lmao
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Yeah you need to shut up MAPPA fanboy, what do you mean my argument wasn't relevant? I exactly said this in my OP how the later eps was gonna be rushed as well, this is why I told people to read the manga, but disgusting MAPPA fanboys like you hijacked the thread and started saying "oMGGg yOu gAvE uP tOo eArLy" and now look what happened to episode 3. And now you pretend to be a saint? Yeah you better stop talking to me.
im not fanboying cause i barely know mappa. this episode wasn't as great but not even half as bad as u made it up to be. but even now your arguements to drop the anime for manga based on ep 2 is shit.

Oh my god. Your reading skills is so lacklustre that I cannot even comprehend it. Did I ever tell anyone to drop the anime? My post wasn't telling people to drop the anime, it was about how anime onlies should start reading the manga to understand the anime better. Yeah you can't read shit. That's why you need to shut up.

>"I barely know MAPPA"
>continues to whiteknight MAPPA
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I said keep your hands on the table
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Arin-san said:
Harsha1314 said:
im not fanboying cause i barely know mappa. this episode wasn't as great but not even half as bad as u made it up to be. but even now your arguements to drop the anime for manga based on ep 2 is shit.

Oh my god. Your reading skills is so lacklustre that I cannot even comprehend it. Did I ever tell anyone to drop the anime? You nimrod, my post wasn't telling people to drop the anime, it was about how anime onlies should start reading the manga to understand the anime better. Yeah you can't read shit. That's why you need to shut up.

>"I barely know MAPPA"
>continues to whiteknight MAPPA
im not whiteknighting mappa im whiteknighting the adaptation. and u did say to drop the anime in that thread
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Oh my god. Your reading skills is so lacklustre that I cannot even comprehend it. Did I ever tell anyone to drop the anime? You nimrod, my post wasn't telling people to drop the anime, it was about how anime onlies should start reading the manga to understand the anime better. Yeah you can't read shit. That's why you need to shut up.

>"I barely know MAPPA"
>continues to whiteknight MAPPA
im not whiteknighting mappa im whiteknighting the adaptation. and u did say to drop the anime in that thread

"and u did say to drop the anime in that thread" So now YOU will tell me what MY thread meant? It's not my fault you can't read for shit.
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I said keep your hands on the table
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i am genuinely upset that they cut out the part where pieck is crawling on the floor
this is injustice and i wont stand for it

shaking and crying and shitting and pissing rn
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Arin-san said:
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im not whiteknighting mappa im whiteknighting the adaptation. and u did say to drop the anime in that thread

"and u did say to drop the anime in that thread" So now YOU will tell me what MY thread meant? It's not my fault you can't read for shit.
its not even my problem when u can't elaborate shit
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Harsha1314 said:
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"and u did say to drop the anime in that thread" So now YOU will tell me what MY thread meant? It's not my fault you can't read for shit.
its not even my problem when u can't elaborate shit

I can say the same thing, it's not my fault you can't read shit properly, when other people did read it properly and you didn't.




I said keep your hands on the table
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honestly flashbacks would have been fine. I didn't have the time to go back and refresh myself about the previous sesasons.
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BlakexEkalb said:
When I first saw the episode (anime-only) I just thought that Reiner and Bertholdt proceeded the mission without Annie (her being knocked unconscious with Reiner's choke hold). I kind of thought of it like Annie was dead-set on returning home, but Reiner proceeded anyway, so when she woke up the work had already been done and she had to just go along with the plan.


Yeah, makes sense. My kid brother, who is currently an anime-only too, felt the same and it saddened me since that doesn’t quite add up. You can’t knock some out out for a day like that xD.

I've read that one little part though so it makes more sense. However, I don't think my idea of what might've happened was such a bad idea, especially since in many scenes it shows how Annie wants to return home ASAP.


Sure it adds up to this line of thought but it doesn’t explain a few other things such as how they managed to get away from the titans and consequently amass all the titans near the walls. And these really make the story more complete and satisfying, especially for people who’ll try to rewatch season 1 later on I imagine.

Also, the whole Annie - Kenny scene felt a little random too. I don’t think it’s easy for anime-onlies to pick that up easily. Feel free to ask if that isn’t clear by the way, I doubt the anime will come back to this.


Yeah ik that but I was using anime logic lol
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its not even my problem when u can't elaborate shit

I can say the same thing, it's not my fault you can't read shit properly, when other people did read it properly and you didn't.
many people made out nearly the same conclusion thats why u were attacked so much. u shouldve made it seem like reading the manga is a good thing as well, but the way u put it it felt like you were totally degrading the adaptation, not just s4 but the prev seasons as well
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its not even my problem when u can't elaborate shit

I can say the same thing, it's not my fault you can't read shit properly, when other people did read it properly and you didn't.
also to be a little more sarcastic after being rude, i expected a fall in ratings and people running around criticising this adaptation well that didn't happen when i wanted it to.... even if it did its not half as much as for ep2
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I can say the same thing, it's not my fault you can't read shit properly, when other people did read it properly and you didn't.
also to be a little more sarcastic after being rude, i expected a fall in ratings and people running around criticising this adaptation well that didn't happen when i wanted it to.... even if it did its not half as much as for ep2

I never wanted this season to drop in ratings, because the past few eps might've been bad, but it was bad when compared to Attack on Titan standards, it's still one of the greatest anime ever and better than most anime, it still deserves it's current score, but compared to AoT standards, it's not that great.




I said keep your hands on the table
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also to be a little more sarcastic after being rude, i expected a fall in ratings and people running around criticising this adaptation well that didn't happen when i wanted it to.... even if it did its not half as much as for ep2

I never wanted this season to drop in ratings, because the past few eps might've been bad, but it was bad when compared to Attack on Titan standards, it's still one of the greatest anime ever and better than most anime, it still deserves it's current score, but compared to AoT standards, it's not that great.
hmm.... the thing is i feel the anime can never really beat the manga story wise or even pacing wise, but what it can surpass is the impact, so we have to see what will actually happen with the next few episodes, if ep 5,6,7 are bad I will have to drop the anime, even so i still feel it will blow up, since there are many anime onlies who are liking it so far and given the story itself being this good, but for AoT standards this episode surely doesn't hold as well as prev 2, mostly because of the fast pacing relatively and what the first 2 episodes were able to cover and present direction wise from the manga and what this episode wasn't able to for the manga readers. because if we go just story and execution wise this episode is definitely better than previous 2 episodes given I'm just seeing so much praise for this ep from many anime onlies not only in MAL but twitter and Youtube comment sections........ also because the anime onlies don't know the extra scenes, and hence they'd still be happy with it, just because everything the STORY presented this episode relative to the other 2 episodes. and certainly this episode enhanced the feel of scenes like Marcel getting Eaten, Porco beating the shit out of Reiner, his breakdown, Annie's fight with Reiner, and Reiner and Eren scene before Reiner tried to commit suicide and even that scene looked really good. the best part of the episode however is the Mr. Krueger and Falco's little talk and Mr. Krueger's speech which was so good and had more impact than in the manga overall. So I'd really say each media has its own ups and downs and sometimes knowing things in advance can spoil the affect, for example not you but my friends who read this part of the story long while ago felt the impact of ep3 because they didn't revise it, but even now when they did they felt mostly there are more additional dialogue and scenes but the overall impact for them remained the same. So aiming at anime onlies alone, i think this adaptation is fantastic but pleasing the manga readers completely will still be tough, and seems ep 2 pleased most of em a lot more but for this ep when it didn't there isn't that big of an uproar I feel........
-> " but for AoT standards this episode surely doesn't hold as well as prev 2" from a manga reader stand point because its still pretty much AoT standards for anime onlies considering ep3,4 of s3 pt1 and ep7 of s3 pt2
-> however i feel for people who read the manga in advance surely won't feel the same impact as when they did,.i.e., if they read the part recently (example myself)
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I never wanted this season to drop in ratings, because the past few eps might've been bad, but it was bad when compared to Attack on Titan standards, it's still one of the greatest anime ever and better than most anime, it still deserves it's current score, but compared to AoT standards, it's not that great.
hmm.... the thing is i feel the anime can never really beat the manga story wise or even pacing wise, but what it can surpass is the impact, so we have to see what will actually happen with the next few episodes, if ep 5,6,7 are bad I will have to drop the anime, even so i still feel it will blow up, since there are many anime onlies who are liking it so far and given the story itself being this good, but for AoT standards this episode surely doesn't hold as well as prev 2

One thing is for sure, when the Rumbling arc gets animated, the anime will blow up pretty good, I'm not even kidding. I haven't started the rumbing arc in manga yet but I'm so hyped for it, I might not start the rumbling arc because I still have faith that MAPPA won't mess up the best arc, if they do, then we'll see what to do with MAPPA, but I think MAPPA is smart enough to not mess it up. I just wanna see the rumbling arc get animated so badly, and I'm sure there are people like me who'd love to see the rumbling arc get animated, that's why there is a chance that the anime might still blow up.




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hmm.... the thing is i feel the anime can never really beat the manga story wise or even pacing wise, but what it can surpass is the impact, so we have to see what will actually happen with the next few episodes, if ep 5,6,7 are bad I will have to drop the anime, even so i still feel it will blow up, since there are many anime onlies who are liking it so far and given the story itself being this good, but for AoT standards this episode surely doesn't hold as well as prev 2

One thing is for sure, when the Rumbling arc gets animated, the anime will blow up pretty good, I'm not even kidding. I haven't started the rumbing arc in manga yet but I'm so hyped for it, I might not start the rumbling arc because I still have faith that MAPPA won't mess up the best arc, if they do, then we'll see what to do with MAPPA, but I think MAPPA is smart enough to not mess it up. I just wanna see the rumbling arc get animated so badly, and I'm sure there are people like me who'd love to see the rumbling arc get animated, that's why there is a chance that the anime might still blow up.
for me i just wish they make ch 121 and 122 well, like don't let me down mappa please make pe5,6,7 nicely, and then the paths arc. rumbling arc needs the most effort and top tier animation because otherwise it'd be a real shame. i really hope they make it well and especially capture the character dynamics because Jean, Reiner, and Eren are the best characters in this arc if you ask me, like purely based off of how well they are written, thats one of the reasons i hope for part 2 rather than a movie adaptation, like even if it has 8 episodes itll be long enough
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