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Jul 31, 2020 3:59 AM

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anyone know the OST played during Subaru remembering Emilia in the first half of episode?
Jul 31, 2020 4:30 AM

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iamYuyaSakaki said:
Was boring compared to last 3. Disappointed how the episode didn't tell anything about how Subaru ended up in Re Zero world even though it spent the whole episode Subaru conquering himself with all the parent talk, which was just most likely a vision from the trial.


??? Watch EP1 and you literally know how & why he was dragged into this world.
Its not even a spoiler aka the shadow hand you see is one of Satellas arms. (you learn that in later episodes in Season1)

Idk how you could miss that?!?
Jul 31, 2020 4:30 AM

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This ep was batshit crazy! his talk with his parents broke me... especially knowing he won't be coming back.. technically since its pretty rare when an isekai MC at the end goes back to their world.
Subaru had such warm and loving parents... him just flat out not replying to his mom back before he gets teleported hurt.. his mom is so damn wholesome! she seemed like a clutzy airhead at first but was actually pretty keen when it came to her kid.

Now that aside Im curious... since this obv isnt real... I wonder if what happened is what Subaru wanted to hear from them or Echidna did something that literally copied his actual parent's personality accurately and what happened in this dream is what they really would have told Subaru under those circumstances.
That aside great ep! by far the best ep this series has done outside the last ep of S1.
11/10! can't wait for next ep!
Jul 31, 2020 4:37 AM

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-Stray said:
This ep was batshit crazy! his talk with his parents broke me... especially knowing he won't be coming back.. technically since its pretty rare when an isekai MC at the end goes back to their world.
Subaru had such warm and loving parents... him just flat out not replying to his mom back before he gets teleported hurt.. his mom is so damn wholesome! she seemed like a clutzy airhead at first but was actually pretty keen when it came to her kid.

Now that aside Im curious... since this obv isnt real... I wonder if what happened is what Subaru wanted to hear from them or Echidna did something that literally copied his actual parent's personality accurately and what happened in this dream is what they really would have told Subaru under those circumstances.
That aside great ep! by far the best ep this series has done outside the last ep of S1.
11/10! can't wait for next ep!


Because the suffering never ends.
The author in a Q&A said that Subarus parents still search for him. Aka in that one month period of Season1 the police didnt find any clues & Subarus Dad is searching daily on his own.
His mom got so sick/ill because of worry that she has to stay at home & his Dad trys to cheer her up yet it dosnt really work.

The author also said as a interesting story point time flows the same in both world aka 1 day on Earth is the same for the fantasy world.
Jul 31, 2020 4:52 AM

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The author in a Q&A said that Subarus parents still search for him. Aka in that one month period of Season1 the police didnt find any clues & Subarus Dad is searching daily on his own.
His mom got so sick/ill because of worry that she has to stay at home & his Dad trys to cheer her up yet it dosnt really work.

The author also said as a interesting story point time flows the same in both world aka 1 day on Earth is the same for the fantasy world.

!!!!!??????????
.....WHAT IN THE ACTUAL SHIT!?
THE AUTHOR IS A FUCKING SADIST!!!! now I just got more sad and depressed...
Jul 31, 2020 4:58 AM
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-Stray said:
MonoReaper said:

The author in a Q&A said that Subarus parents still search for him. Aka in that one month period of Season1 the police didnt find any clues & Subarus Dad is searching daily on his own.
His mom got so sick/ill because of worry that she has to stay at home & his Dad trys to cheer her up yet it dosnt really work.

The author also said as a interesting story point time flows the same in both world aka 1 day on Earth is the same for the fantasy world.

!!!!!??????????
.....WHAT IN THE ACTUAL SHIT!?
THE AUTHOR IS A FUCKING SADIST!!!! now I just got more sad and depressed...



This is the actual Q/A with the author:-

Q: Now that their eldest son Subaru has been summoned to another world, what’s the situation in the Natsuki household? They seem like a couple that it wouldn’t be too surprising if they chased after him to the other world.

A: They’re enduring the disappearance of their eldest son somehow or other. The police investigation has no leads, and Kenichi is trying to comfort Naoko but it’s not that effective. They’re passing each day tearfully.
Jul 31, 2020 5:07 AM
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Compared to the last three episodes, I actually enjoyed this episode. We finally got an idea on how Subaru's old life was like. I feel bad for his parents. They must be worried sick about their son.
Jul 31, 2020 5:40 AM

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rakp333 said:

This is the actual Q/A with the author:-

Q: Now that their eldest son Subaru has been summoned to another world, what’s the situation in the Natsuki household? They seem like a couple that it wouldn’t be too surprising if they chased after him to the other world.

A: They’re enduring the disappearance of their eldest son somehow or other. The police investigation has no leads, and Kenichi is trying to comfort Naoko but it’s not that effective. They’re passing each day tearfully.

Still depressing but at least not as graphic as the first one that said the mom was so ill she couldn't leave the house.
Jul 31, 2020 6:03 AM
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As much as I like Emilia or Rem, I want Subaru to go back to his world. It's not as much as Subaru's but what they're feeling right now is true pain and suffering after losing their son and seeing how they really love and care for him makes it worse.
Jul 31, 2020 6:38 AM
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As much as I like Emilia or Rem, I want Subaru to go back to his world. It's not as much as Subaru's but what they're feeling right now is true pain and suffering after losing their son and seeing how they really love and care for him makes it worse.

i feel like it would be a happy reunion althought if the parents realized he left other people behind to come back... i imagine a father headbutt would follow.
Jul 31, 2020 7:30 AM
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Wow, maximizing the amount of content per episode!
Jul 31, 2020 8:49 AM

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Yeah, This is why I said before that this could have been the end of the series, returning to reality and facing its problems to make sense of the Isekai world. But as always they screwed up and probably he no longer "needs" to return to the real world, because he already apologized to his parents (in a fucking illusion, to top it all off). It ends up being a complete nonsense the purpose of the episode.

Its just always nonsense and delusion when it comes to this topic for isekais. Heck, these protagonists for whatever self-insert reason never gives a shit about their previous world connections like FUCKING FAMILY/FRIENDS at the start. And when they confront it, it just comes off as inconsistent. Im looking forward to Mushoku Tensei which doesnt have this problem


...I know I'm on MAL but how the hell did you three miss the point is bad..? Then again referring Subaru's friends by a shitty meaningless internet term that means fuck all this story says a lot about you.

Thankfully the vast majority of watchers got it.
Jul 31, 2020 9:33 AM

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so I have a few questions that confuse me

1. So why did Subaru return to the real world in bedroom? even though when he went to Isekai he was in a convenience store

2. then what exactly is Subaru's father's work, because Subaru is always compared to his father.
And thanks for your response
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Jul 31, 2020 9:58 AM
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O2-Sama said:
so I have a few questions that confuse me

1. So why did Subaru return to the real world in bedroom? even though when he went to Isekai he was in a convenience store

2. then what exactly is Subaru's father's work, because Subaru is always compared to his father.
And thanks for your response

1. facing his past (his parents and previous situation in japan.) is the trial Subaru was knocked out for last episode, so essentially it was Echidna s doing as seen at the end.
2.I dont think the author ever confirmed what Subadad did for work, so guess that s up in the air. Unless they spawn at Isekai quartet 3 and they decide to add something about it there as an extra.
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O2-Sama said:
so I have a few questions that confuse me

1. So why did Subaru return to the real world in bedroom? even though when he went to Isekai he was in a convenience store

2. then what exactly is Subaru's father's work, because Subaru is always compared to his father.
And thanks for your response


1. Who said Subaru returned to the real world? Here's a hint: "First, you must face your past."

2. Subaru's father is just incredibly successful at whatever he does.
Jul 31, 2020 11:20 AM

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This was a great episode, it handled itself extremely well and helped better mold Subaru's character, but there's just one complaint I can't avoid mentioning.
His obsession with Emilia makes no sense. In this episode his love for Emilia is just so jarring and came across as forced. He barely knows her, and he's obsessed with her because she helped him once. His love is one sided which makes it weirder. When you stop and think about it its just so stupid, especially when Rem has had a bigger impact on him than Emilia did.

Despite how well written the story is in general, his obsession with Emilia will always be a stain on the story. It really needs to stop.

i feel like its more of a point where Subaru did not fall in love with Emilia in episode 1,he had a mini crush on her because she looked like the silver haired heroines he liked (said crush being reinforced by his interactions with her in the first arc.) the point where it switched into really falling in love with her was when she was his saving grace when he was starting to crack in the mansion arc giving him that moment of comfort, that s when he fell in love with her for real. And at this point he has already remarked in an earlier episode that he feels the same way about Rem and Emilia to which he apologizes to Emilia in episode 2.

That still is an extremely shallow reason to become obsessed with her in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't help that Emilia barely shows up in the second part of the first season.
Jul 31, 2020 11:48 AM
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NovaLord said:
North25 said:

i feel like its more of a point where Subaru did not fall in love with Emilia in episode 1,he had a mini crush on her because she looked like the silver haired heroines he liked (said crush being reinforced by his interactions with her in the first arc.) the point where it switched into really falling in love with her was when she was his saving grace when he was starting to crack in the mansion arc giving him that moment of comfort, that s when he fell in love with her for real. And at this point he has already remarked in an earlier episode that he feels the same way about Rem and Emilia to which he apologizes to Emilia in episode 2.

That still is an extremely shallow reason to become obsessed with her in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't help that Emilia barely shows up in the second part of the first season.

i feel like that s more of an issue of the time it took to get a 2nd season than Emilia not being present. Re zero S1 s 2nd half focuses on both Subaru s dark side (which involves his fight with Emilia and initial regretted wishes of something bad happening so he could be a hero.), building up Rem post her backstory reveal to set up the Return by death backfire in season 2 (which was omitted in 1 because...4 years of who s Rem cliffhanger.) having Emilia prominently in the 2nd half would have both gone against fixing that rift they both had and would also very much undermine Rem s moments if Emilia had a big presence in that half (sacrificing herself when the white whale first appears, taking care of a broken Subaru,the confession and reassuring of the giving up Subaru, and several other standout moments she had in season 1.)
Jul 31, 2020 12:31 PM

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This episode was straight up boring ngl
Why do I even need to know his back-story?
Edit: To clarify misunderstandings, I meant him being an isekai protagonist
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Jul 31, 2020 1:31 PM
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This episode was straight up boring ngl
Why do I even need to know his back-story?

Explains a bit of Subaru s darker sides in season 1 even if it isnt fantasy world related like Wilhelm s flashback on Theresia and Rem s Oni village episode its still relevant to Subaru s character and good to know.
Jul 31, 2020 1:52 PM

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Developing the protagonist is a great idea, but we learned very little about him. He does hyperactive antics to cope with his feelings of loneliness and depression. Fair enough, but I always thought that was a likely explanation, so it isn't a huge revelation or anything, and that alone can't carry the show.

I feel like Natsuki Subaru is still practically a blank slate. What does he believe in? What are his values? We know that he likes cute girls, saving people from lunatic villains, and the aforementioned hyperactive comedy routine. That's... not much. Who is Natsuki Subaru? What would he do if placed in different situations? I don't know.

Especially now that he got over the worst of his mental issues in S1, what sets Subaru mentally apart from his isekai protagonist brethren? What would he do that others wouldn't? I don't know.
Jul 31, 2020 2:06 PM

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Come on, Subaru, you probably won't see your parents ever again, would it be so hard to give your mom a hug?
Jul 31, 2020 2:44 PM
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This episode was straight up boring ngl
Why do I even need to know his back-story?


Troll? Mods? Why do you need to know the protagonist's back story?
Jul 31, 2020 2:46 PM

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This episode was straight up boring ngl
Why do I even need to know his back-story?


Troll? Mods? Why do you need to know the protagonist's back story?

An isekai protagonist's back story? Are you kidding me?
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Jul 31, 2020 3:20 PM
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His parents are so good. What a fucking wholesome episode, it hitted hard. I almost teared up.
Jul 31, 2020 3:50 PM
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Developing the protagonist is a great idea, but we learned very little about him. He does hyperactive antics to cope with his feelings of loneliness and depression. Fair enough, but I always thought that was a likely explanation, so it isn't a huge revelation or anything, and that alone can't carry the show.

I feel like Natsuki Subaru is still practically a blank slate. What does he believe in? What are his values? We know that he likes cute girls, saving people from lunatic villains, and the aforementioned hyperactive comedy routine. That's... not much. Who is Natsuki Subaru? What would he do if placed in different situations? I don't know.

Especially now that he got over the worst of his mental issues in S1, what sets Subaru mentally apart from his isekai protagonist brethren? What would he do that others wouldn't? I don't know.


Superficial explanation. Read the post that linked Subaru's desperate face accusing Julius of living off of his father's name, just like Subaru himself had to. It was pure projection and it was animated beautifully in retrospect since his face suggested that he was talking more so to himself than Julius.

He's not a hero nor a "blank slate", he despises his own weakness and has an immense amount of pride that is the source of his strength (which is why Emilia thinks he's more amazing than she is - because he does so much IN SPITE of being absolutely powerless), but his pride is also his biggest pitfall.

He wants to feel useful and as if he belongs at the core, fundamental level. Then layered on top of that is the feeling of loneliness and rejection and isolation which incentives him to do things that he shouldn't do (like his argument with Emilia - no other isekai protagonist would have done that. Period.)

Anyways you're asking who a character is at an in depth level when there's still a lot of story left to be told. I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever, but obviously more will come. People act like they need to know everything right now when knowing all the answers at the forefront literally ruins the narrative structure of the story.

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Fatephile said:
ChainxBastard said:


Troll? Mods? Why do you need to know the protagonist's back story?

An isekai protagonist's back story? Are you kidding me?


No, you're kidding me. Maybe this show isn't for you? It's okay but maybe you should venture to other anime.
Jul 31, 2020 4:01 PM

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a very great episode indeed but it is kinda sad to know that the conversation he had with his mother and father did not happen in real life
Jul 31, 2020 4:31 PM

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Fatephile said:
An isekai protagonist's back story? Are you kidding me?

Well, knowing that Re:Zero is pretty psychological and has a main character who executes actions heavily based on his flaws, which he gained before the story began, it's fairly important if you want to be able to understand him.

Characters having 0 background isn't a trademark of an Isekai, it's just a proof of either a poorly planned story or an insignificant past relative to the main character's actions (Konosuba doesn't need to develop Kazuma's past for an isekai example).

Also, please do not generalize genre tropes and apply them to every series because they're of the same genre; Re:Zero is meant to be a deconstruction of the overused power fantasy isekai trope by mixing psychological and horrors factors and putting a great emphasis into its characters, their personal stories and development.

EDIT - So not only is Re:Zero different from most isekai series, judging any series from its genres only is a terrible idea to begin with; That literally is the reason why the expression "judging a book by its cover" exists.
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Some wholesome shit bruh
Jul 31, 2020 6:01 PM

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This episode was amazing. Really heartfelt and real. Subaru’s character makes so much more sense with this context of his past. It’s really cool we got to go back to the real world and see the past. Very rare for an isekai.
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ChainxBastard said:
TheDeedsOfMen said:
Developing the protagonist is a great idea, but we learned very little about him. He does hyperactive antics to cope with his feelings of loneliness and depression. Fair enough, but I always thought that was a likely explanation, so it isn't a huge revelation or anything, and that alone can't carry the show.

I feel like Natsuki Subaru is still practically a blank slate. What does he believe in? What are his values? We know that he likes cute girls, saving people from lunatic villains, and the aforementioned hyperactive comedy routine. That's... not much. Who is Natsuki Subaru? What would he do if placed in different situations? I don't know.

Especially now that he got over the worst of his mental issues in S1, what sets Subaru mentally apart from his isekai protagonist brethren? What would he do that others wouldn't? I don't know.


Superficial explanation. Read the post that linked Subaru's desperate face accusing Julius of living off of his father's name, just like Subaru himself had to. It was pure projection and it was animated beautifully in retrospect since his face suggested that he was talking more so to himself than Julius.

He's not a hero nor a "blank slate", he despises his own weakness and has an immense amount of pride that is the source of his strength (which is why Emilia thinks he's more amazing than she is - because he does so much IN SPITE of being absolutely powerless), but his pride is also his biggest pitfall.
His pride is practically always directed towards helping his love interests, saving people from the obvious villains and fantasy horrors that keep showing up, and keeping up his hyperactive comedy routine for attention (his father is related to the last). I am not contesting those; they are obvious. The problem is that he doesn't seem to believe in anything beyond them. If his pride went beyond them (e.g. if it was more ideological), you'd have a better point. Being prideful in the traits mentioned isn't enough of a deviation from the norm for the narrative to be more substantially different.

He wants to feel useful and as if he belongs at the core, fundamental level. Then layered on top of that is the feeling of loneliness and rejection and isolation which incentives him to do things that he shouldn't do (like his argument with Emilia - no other isekai protagonist would have done that. Period.)
The argument was a very small deviation though. The more clearly different isekai protagonists would not have been primarily motivated by their love for Emilia (or believing that they did) in the first place.

Besides, like I already pointed out, Subaru already fixed his biggest mental issues, so now he is acting like a more typical hero or knight. I am not seeing any arguments anymore.

Anyways you're asking who a character is at an in depth level when there's still a lot of story left to be told. I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever, but obviously more will come. People act like they need to know everything right now when knowing all the answers at the forefront literally ruins the narrative structure of the story.
29 episodes, and he is still going on about how he loves Emilia, and his love is the motive behind most of his actions. (The other motives are general altruism in obvious situations, and his desire for attention to cope with loneliness and depression.) Those motives are not enough to carry the narrative. There would have been plenty of time for more.
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Touching back to the real world was inevitable, after all the only information about Subaru in the first season was that he was a shut-in gamer that was at the convenience store. Good episode, but would've been better if they tweaked his parent's personalities a bit. I know that they have to say "My wife" or "My son" in their sentences to establish their relationship, but it was kind of awkward how outgoing his dad was. Moonwalking into the room was kind of funny, but the mother was all over the place. What were they thinking when making her a Mayonnaise freak like Hijikata and give her a weird line about suppositories? Did they think people wouldn't like it if she wasn't quirky or something
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TheDeedsOfMen said:
ChainxBastard said:


Superficial explanation. Read the post that linked Subaru's desperate face accusing Julius of living off of his father's name, just like Subaru himself had to. It was pure projection and it was animated beautifully in retrospect since his face suggested that he was talking more so to himself than Julius.

He's not a hero nor a "blank slate", he despises his own weakness and has an immense amount of pride that is the source of his strength (which is why Emilia thinks he's more amazing than she is - because he does so much IN SPITE of being absolutely powerless), but his pride is also his biggest pitfall.
His pride is practically always directed towards helping his love interests, saving people from the obvious villains and fantasy horrors that keep showing up, and keeping up his hyperactive comedy routine for attention (his father is related to the last). I am not contesting those; they are obvious. The problem is that he doesn't seem to believe in anything beyond them. If his pride went beyond them (e.g. if it was more ideological), you'd have a better point. Being prideful in the traits mentioned isn't enough of a deviation from the norm for the narrative to be more substantially different.

He wants to feel useful and as if he belongs at the core, fundamental level. Then layered on top of that is the feeling of loneliness and rejection and isolation which incentives him to do things that he shouldn't do (like his argument with Emilia - no other isekai protagonist would have done that. Period.)
The argument was a very small deviation though. The more clearly different isekai protagonists would not have been primarily motivated by their love for Emilia (or believing that they did) in the first place.

Besides, like I already pointed out, Subaru already fixed his biggest mental issues, so now he is acting like a more typical hero or knight. I am not seeing any arguments anymore.

Anyways you're asking who a character is at an in depth level when there's still a lot of story left to be told. I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever, but obviously more will come. People act like they need to know everything right now when knowing all the answers at the forefront literally ruins the narrative structure of the story.
29 episodes, and he is still going on about how he loves Emilia, and his love is the motive behind most of his actions. (The other motives are general altruism in obvious situations, and his desire for attention to cope with loneliness and depression.) Those motives are not enough to carry the narrative. There would have been plenty of time for more.

I feel like the wall between source reader and Anime onlies is too big at the moment to have a proper discussion on the series s narrative, season 1 (arcs 1-3) is considered by a good amount of readers to be the prologue of the series for a reason.
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Subaru never progresses or maybe now he's progressed a little facing his past. I don't like him because I think he should stop crying and change himself.
Look how much support (words) Emilia has been giving to him, but he is still a crybaby.
Come on!
5/10 so far
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TheDeedsOfMen said:
ChainxBastard said:


Superficial explanation. Read the post that linked Subaru's desperate face accusing Julius of living off of his father's name, just like Subaru himself had to. It was pure projection and it was animated beautifully in retrospect since his face suggested that he was talking more so to himself than Julius.

He's not a hero nor a "blank slate", he despises his own weakness and has an immense amount of pride that is the source of his strength (which is why Emilia thinks he's more amazing than she is - because he does so much IN SPITE of being absolutely powerless), but his pride is also his biggest pitfall.
His pride is practically always directed towards helping his love interests, saving people from the obvious villains and fantasy horrors that keep showing up, and keeping up his hyperactive comedy routine for attention (his father is related to the last). I am not contesting those; they are obvious. The problem is that he doesn't seem to believe in anything beyond them. If his pride went beyond them (e.g. if it was more ideological), you'd have a better point. Being prideful in the traits mentioned isn't enough of a deviation from the norm for the narrative to be more substantially different.

He wants to feel useful and as if he belongs at the core, fundamental level. Then layered on top of that is the feeling of loneliness and rejection and isolation which incentives him to do things that he shouldn't do (like his argument with Emilia - no other isekai protagonist would have done that. Period.)
The argument was a very small deviation though. The more clearly different isekai protagonists would not have been primarily motivated by their love for Emilia (or believing that they did) in the first place.

Besides, like I already pointed out, Subaru already fixed his biggest mental issues, so now he is acting like a more typical hero or knight. I am not seeing any arguments anymore.

Anyways you're asking who a character is at an in depth level when there's still a lot of story left to be told. I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever, but obviously more will come. People act like they need to know everything right now when knowing all the answers at the forefront literally ruins the narrative structure of the story.
29 episodes, and he is still going on about how he loves Emilia, and his love is the motive behind most of his actions. (The other motives are general altruism in obvious situations, and his desire for attention to cope with loneliness and depression.) Those motives are not enough to carry the narrative. There would have been plenty of time for more.


His pride is "ideological" it's a facade he puts on in order to shield himself from the truth - that he's completely and utterly powerless. He's insecure and he attempts to overcompensate. No other isekai protagonist has this crippling affliction. Hell, not many anime protagonists PERIOD have this.

No, he didn't "get over" his issues. Re:Zero doesn't have an episodic narrative. His issues and insecurities will get the better of him from time to time. It's not an instant fix, it's a constant battle. It's seen already when he's embarrassed over Emilia protecting him from Garfield.

You're speaking as if Subaru is the only character that carries the narrative.....extremely closed minded thought process and shows a lack of understanding story structure. Re:Zero isn't a story about Subaru, at least, exclusively about him, he's a cog in the wheel in the world, and although he has influence alone he's nothing without his companions. His job is to lead others, not to take on all the burdens alone.

Things go wrong when he tries to force his way through like a generic protagonist would. Period. Emilia from what I've been told, is the major focus in this season - which will be revealed later on in cour 2 from what I've been told (no heavy spoilers though or anything).

In essence, you don't understand Re:Zero's story structure and Subaru's role in the narrative, and you don't have enough information to even infer about his characterization and the direction that's it's going to go and you're nitpicking it when you literally have zero basis to. It makes no sense.
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Other isekai anime must adapt this episode cuz when the mc gets transported to another world they tend to forgot their families also i cried on this episode knowing that subaru can't take care of them cuz he is on the another world if you were subaru can you handle the guilt?
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Wow Subaru is lucky have such loving parents. They are the best parents a child could hope for

i felt bad for them i can't imagine how sad they are never be able to meet their son again

also this episode is nice touch. other isekai should follow example of this. i hate how isekai protagonist always seems to forget about their families or friends
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Good for Subaru that he was finally able to face his past even in this imaginary space. A very good episode for character development, but it had to be cut short like that in the end huh, talk about cliffhangers. 5/5 Very nice sounding ED too.
“What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?”
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this show is too good and emotionally mature what the hell
i'm not expecting this from an anime
his backstory made his characterization even better if that was possible. it explains so much about his personality and manages to feel realistic. plus he resolved one of his traumas around his father. that's all in one episode.
the writer is incredibily good. way too good for an isekai anime
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OMG,this episode was too boring. Maybe I'm just not old enough to understand this episode. Ya,I know that this episode was just merely for the characters development of Subaru. But man,i really don't want have any critism on this sequel.
I'm just speechless that there are too many awkward moments in every single episode. That really irritates me.
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Reading haters comments rlly made me lol hard. Like they dont even make any god damn sense 🤣🤣🤣

Like ppl seriously hate the ep because of reasons like
-its too boring all talk no action
-subaru is a crybaby
-why shld i know about subaru's bckgrd

For real, do these ppl even turn on their brains when they r watching the ep
sfj4uAug 1, 2020 5:11 AM
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ChainxBastard said:
TheDeedsOfMen said:
His pride is practically always directed towards helping his love interests, saving people from the obvious villains and fantasy horrors that keep showing up, and keeping up his hyperactive comedy routine for attention (his father is related to the last). I am not contesting those; they are obvious. The problem is that he doesn't seem to believe in anything beyond them. If his pride went beyond them (e.g. if it was more ideological), you'd have a better point. Being prideful in the traits mentioned isn't enough of a deviation from the norm for the narrative to be more substantially different.

The argument was a very small deviation though. The more clearly different isekai protagonists would not have been primarily motivated by their love for Emilia (or believing that they did) in the first place.

Besides, like I already pointed out, Subaru already fixed his biggest mental issues, so now he is acting like a more typical hero or knight. I am not seeing any arguments anymore.

29 episodes, and he is still going on about how he loves Emilia, and his love is the motive behind most of his actions. (The other motives are general altruism in obvious situations, and his desire for attention to cope with loneliness and depression.) Those motives are not enough to carry the narrative. There would have been plenty of time for more.


His pride is "ideological" it's a facade he puts on in order to shield himself from the truth - that he's completely and utterly powerless. He's insecure and he attempts to overcompensate.
Nah, it isn't ideological, at least in the normal sense.

ideological
adjective
1. based on or relating to a system of ideas and ideals, especially concerning economic or political theory and policy.

Subaru's mental issues are almost entirely unideological. Psychological, sure, but that's different.

His pride is "ideological" it's a facade he puts on in order to shield himself from the truth - that he's completely and utterly powerless. He's insecure and he attempts to overcompensate. No other isekai protagonist has this crippling affliction. Hell, not many anime protagonists PERIOD have this.
Not this exact one, but it is a relatively small deviation from the norm because his insecurity and overcompensation are related to the motives that they are. There are isekai protagonists with far more serious and far more different personality flaws.

No, he didn't "get over" his issues. Re:Zero doesn't have an episodic narrative. His issues and insecurities will get the better of him from time to time. It's not an instant fix, it's a constant battle. It's seen already when he's embarrassed over Emilia protecting him from Garfield.
No major problems so far. I am not going to put the bar so low that slight embarrassment counts as a major problem. There have been over ten episodes now since the big argument and Subaru emerging more sane from its aftermath.

You're speaking as if Subaru is the only character that carries the narrative.....extremely closed minded thought process and shows a lack of understanding story structure. Re:Zero isn't a story about Subaru, at least, exclusively about him, he's a cog in the wheel in the world, and although he has influence alone he's nothing without his companions. His job is to lead others, not to take on all the burdens alone.
I already talked about problems with Emilia, Elsa, and the Witch Cult archbishops in other threads. I could talk about many of the other ones too, but do you insist on me going through the entire list of characters in every thread? Come on.

Things go wrong when he tries to force his way through like a generic protagonist would. Period.
He lacks overpowered combat abilities, sure, which is why I specifically referred to his motives. His battle style of recruiting other characters is totally fine. How his thought process almost entirely revolves around Emilia, general altruism, and hyperactive comedy is not.

In essence, you don't understand Re:Zero's story structure
"Story structure" isn't the right term. I was complaining about Subaru's motives and thought processes being too generic and uninteresting. I suppose they are related to the story structure just like many other narrative elements usually, but you could have the same broad structure and still entirely different motives and thought processes.

Emilia from what I've been told, is the major focus in this season - which will be revealed later on in cour 2 from what I've been told (no heavy spoilers though or anything).

In essence, you don't understand Re:Zero's story structure and Subaru's role in the narrative, and you don't have enough information to even infer about his characterization and the direction that's it's going to go and you're nitpicking it when you literally have zero basis to. It makes no sense.
I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever,
So you need to have read the LN and WN to argue about the narrative, but you haven't read them so... Why are you arguing then?

I am reading the LN (and eventually the WN, maybe), but it will take a bit longer.
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sfj4u said:
Reading haters comments rlly made me lol hard. Like they dont even make any god damn sense 🤣🤣🤣

Like ppl seriously hate the ep because of reasons like
-its too boring all talk no action
-subaru is a crybaby
-why shld i know about subaru's bckgrd

For real, do these ppl even turn on their brains when they r watching the ep

Exactly. To be honest I wonder how certain people can't understand Re:Zero isn't like most isekai series. One would think the first episode of season 1 would be enough to make them realize it to but apparently almost thirty episodes later and some act as if it was that smartphone isekai.
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Surprisingly, I didn't cry even though this episode was extremely touching. His father and mother are excellent parents and they didn't treat him differently after he became a hikikomori. They were very understanding of him.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but he's dead right? I mean, when he was isekai'd he's dead in his own world and he can never go back again right? :( I feel so sorry for his parents.

His mom looks adorable with her cat-like eyes but Subaru looks like a stereotypical manga/anime bully/yankee with his. lol
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Bibimbapski said:
Surprisingly, I didn't cry even though this episode was extremely touching. His father and mother are excellent parents and they didn't treat him differently after he became a hikikomori. They were very understanding of him.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but he's dead right? I mean, when he was isekai'd he's dead in his own world and he can never go back again right? :( I feel so sorry for his parents.

His mom looks adorable with her cat-like eyes but Subaru looks like a stereotypical manga/anime bully/yankee with his. lol

I mean he's not actually die and get isekai'd in this world. He was actually summoned by another which we don't know yet except for the WN and LN reader. Therefore,all you need to know is that your question will get answered in the next episode or the future episode.
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QcDiablo said:
sfj4u said:
Reading haters comments rlly made me lol hard. Like they dont even make any god damn sense 🤣🤣🤣

Like ppl seriously hate the ep because of reasons like
-its too boring all talk no action
-subaru is a crybaby
-why shld i know about subaru's bckgrd

For real, do these ppl even turn on their brains when they r watching the ep

Exactly. To be honest I wonder how certain people can't understand Re:Zero isn't like most isekai series. One would think the first episode of season 1 would be enough to make them realize it to but apparently almost thirty episodes later and some act as if it was that smartphone isekai.

All you guys have to do is ignore those animals. Don't feed them :)

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TheDeedsOfMen said:
ChainxBastard said:


His pride is "ideological" it's a facade he puts on in order to shield himself from the truth - that he's completely and utterly powerless. He's insecure and he attempts to overcompensate.
Nah, it isn't ideological, at least in the normal sense.

ideological
adjective
1. based on or relating to a system of ideas and ideals, especially concerning economic or political theory and policy.

Subaru's mental issues are almost entirely unideological. Psychological, sure, but that's different.

His pride is "ideological" it's a facade he puts on in order to shield himself from the truth - that he's completely and utterly powerless. He's insecure and he attempts to overcompensate. No other isekai protagonist has this crippling affliction. Hell, not many anime protagonists PERIOD have this.
Not this exact one, but it is a relatively small deviation from the norm because his insecurity and overcompensation are related to the motives that they are. There are isekai protagonists with far more serious and far more different personality flaws.

No, he didn't "get over" his issues. Re:Zero doesn't have an episodic narrative. His issues and insecurities will get the better of him from time to time. It's not an instant fix, it's a constant battle. It's seen already when he's embarrassed over Emilia protecting him from Garfield.
No major problems so far. I am not going to put the bar so low that slight embarrassment counts as a major problem. There have been over ten episodes now since the big argument and Subaru emerging more sane from its aftermath.

You're speaking as if Subaru is the only character that carries the narrative.....extremely closed minded thought process and shows a lack of understanding story structure. Re:Zero isn't a story about Subaru, at least, exclusively about him, he's a cog in the wheel in the world, and although he has influence alone he's nothing without his companions. His job is to lead others, not to take on all the burdens alone.
I already talked about problems with Emilia, Elsa, and the Witch Cult archbishops in other threads. I could talk about many of the other ones too, but do you insist on me going through the entire list of characters in every thread? Come on.

Things go wrong when he tries to force his way through like a generic protagonist would. Period.
He lacks overpowered combat abilities, sure, which is why I specifically referred to his motives. His battle style of recruiting other characters is totally fine. How his thought process almost entirely revolves around Emilia, general altruism, and hyperactive comedy is not.

In essence, you don't understand Re:Zero's story structure
"Story structure" isn't the right term. I was complaining about Subaru's motives and thought processes being too generic and uninteresting. I suppose they are related to the story structure just like many other narrative elements usually, but you could have the same broad structure and still entirely different motives and thought processes.

Emilia from what I've been told, is the major focus in this season - which will be revealed later on in cour 2 from what I've been told (no heavy spoilers though or anything).

In essence, you don't understand Re:Zero's story structure and Subaru's role in the narrative, and you don't have enough information to even infer about his characterization and the direction that's it's going to go and you're nitpicking it when you literally have zero basis to. It makes no sense.
I'm not a manga, LN or WN reader or whatever,
So you need to have read the LN and WN to argue about the narrative, but you haven't read them so... Why are you arguing then?

I am reading the LN (and eventually the WN, maybe), but it will take a bit longer.

what volume of the LN are you at currently?
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It's nice to have a character development episode that takes its time these days.
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it truly deserve a 5/5 this episode was so beautiful and emotional we finaly got to see why subaru was like he was i think he is now more determined then ever to save rem and protect emilia and the others + he has so caring parents he deserve them

and last subaru is the truly most realistic isekai mc that ever existed


Yeah, it made me tear up. The only problem was that there was a communication issue and he piled up troubles by himself on one side. I am so glad to see him move past this with their help. Truly an amazing episode.
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You get to know Subaru´s childhood and why is he like that. The way he ended alone reminded me of what happened to Shouya from A Silent Voice (also they are kind of similar) but in a less violent way of course. Subaru´s parents are great persons, really loving and caring, makes you want to cry because they somehow lost their son but don´t know how. Completely funny and at the same time sad. Solid 5/5
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