Goblin Slayer (light novel)
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Oct 27, 2018 12:33 AM
#201
oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . |
Oct 27, 2018 12:56 AM
#202
"Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. |
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Oct 27, 2018 9:08 AM
#203
DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? |
Oct 27, 2018 7:46 PM
#204
Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. |
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Oct 27, 2018 9:15 PM
#205
DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. Shit, someone didn’t know how to take sarcasm, time to ignore. |
Oct 27, 2018 9:20 PM
#206
Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. Shit, someone didn’t know how to take sarcasm, time to ignore. Oh come on, now. Don't be so denial ;) |
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Oct 27, 2018 9:21 PM
#207
DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. Shit, someone didn’t know how to take sarcasm, time to ignore. Oh come on, now. Don't be so denial ;) You still care about me You’re so sweet :) |
Oct 27, 2018 9:23 PM
#208
Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. Shit, someone didn’t know how to take sarcasm, time to ignore. Oh come on, now. Don't be so denial ;) You still care about me You’re so sweet :) Of course, I am ;) I'm a sweet lil' boy and you're my sugar daddy *wink wink* |
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Oct 28, 2018 6:25 AM
#210
DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: Blue_Reaper said: DeimoZ said: "Hey, let's make a dark-themed fantasy anime that includes RAPE in it, and just f*ckin' slam it into the first episode! What an awesome idea!" I dunno it just feels like a 12 yo kid is trying to write sh*t. wow, in your place a 12 y/o already know what is rape? i thought 12 y/o only know i f*ck*d your mom joke. but seriously, if it doesn't include rape, does it mean the writer is 13 y/o? Aww snap, someone is triggered. Time to escape. Shit, someone didn’t know how to take sarcasm, time to ignore. Oh come on, now. Don't be so denial ;) You still care about me You’re so sweet :) Of course, I am ;) I'm a sweet lil' boy and you're my sugar daddy *wink wink* TFW Internent disussion turns into yaoi. I guess it fits anime forum. |
Oct 28, 2018 7:13 AM
#211
Overall I like the show but I really hate how stupid everyone but GS is. Like, it's unrealistic. All these adventurers would be dead in a week. You tellin me the church that shelters women raped by goblins and also trains priests manages to have priests come out of YEARS of training there without somehow meeting those women? A ranger that lived 2000!!! years and is a ranger doesn't know about literally every single monster she might encounter? Do you know how long 2000 years is? The lord's don't seem to mind losing what must be very significant tax revenue from people being killed by goblins? They took down an entire village. Morals aside, thats so much lost money for the people in charge. Theres no way they wouldn't do something about it. It's absurd. On top of that goblins can only reproduce with women. Make an all male goblin extermination force and goblins would be completely extinct in like a month and then you don't have divert any more resources to it ever again. We have a mage from a prestigious magic academy in episode one and your telling me they didn't have a course on monsters in a world full of monsters? I can only conclude that the adventurers guild WANTS people to die. Maybe there isn't enough work to spread around otherwise. If this really existed there would be some kind of provisional status where you have to go on quests with higher ranked adventurers before you are allowed to take on quests by yourself. Their hands off approach comes at the cost of quest completion rate. You have to pay money to even post the quest. People wouldn't stand for it. A competing guild could put them out of business in a week. We have the latest main party trying to recruit people to fight the demon lords generals but come completely unprepared to fight against an ogre. The dwarf with several spell casts left doesn't cast silence on the ogre. High elf archer who was doing insane looping shots suddenly can't just repeatedly shoot out the ogres eyes. Why aren't they equipped with poisons for bigger enemies? For some reason the main party summons a ton of support to help after they clear the dungeon. Why wouldn't they just take them all into the dungeon? Every part of this world doesn't make sense but it's brutal dark fantasy style begs me to take it seriously and it's very frustrating. A lighter series (like slime datta) could get away with this level of world but the causes for negative emotions in a show need to be rooted in firm logic to not feel like bullshit. |
Oct 28, 2018 7:22 AM
#212
Likes: A highly determined Protag, paired with appropriate practices that overshadows pretty much every other character in it. The character is by no means OP; he himself admits failures and actually trians himself to kill goblins, and doesn't just brag about it. Dislikes: So far, none. Basically, this anime is One Piece and Claymore combined. |
Oct 28, 2018 7:37 AM
#213
RinTheWanderer said: Overall I like the show but I really hate how stupid everyone but GS is. Like, it's unrealistic. All these adventurers would be dead in a week. You tellin me the church that shelters women raped by goblins and also trains priests manages to have priests come out of YEARS of training there without somehow meeting those women? A ranger that lived 2000!!! years and is a ranger doesn't know about literally every single monster she might encounter? Do you know how long 2000 years is? The lord's don't seem to mind losing what must be very significant tax revenue from people being killed by goblins? They took down an entire village. Morals aside, thats so much lost money for the people in charge. Theres no way they wouldn't do something about it. It's absurd. On top of that goblins can only reproduce with women. Make an all male goblin extermination force and goblins would be completely extinct in like a month and then you don't have divert any more resources to it ever again. We have a mage from a prestigious magic academy in episode one and your telling me they didn't have a course on monsters in a world full of monsters? I can only conclude that the adventurers guild WANTS people to die. Maybe there isn't enough work to spread around otherwise. If this really existed there would be some kind of provisional status where you have to go on quests with higher ranked adventurers before you are allowed to take on quests by yourself. Their hands off approach comes at the cost of quest completion rate. You have to pay money to even post the quest. People wouldn't stand for it. A competing guild could put them out of business in a week. We have the latest main party trying to recruit people to fight the demon lords generals but come completely unprepared to fight against an ogre. The dwarf with several spell casts left doesn't cast silence on the ogre. High elf archer who was doing insane looping shots suddenly can't just repeatedly shoot out the ogres eyes. Why aren't they equipped with poisons for bigger enemies? For some reason the main party summons a ton of support to help after they clear the dungeon. Why wouldn't they just take them all into the dungeon? Every part of this world doesn't make sense but it's brutal dark fantasy style begs me to take it seriously and it's very frustrating. A lighter series (like slime datta) could get away with this level of world but the causes for negative emotions in a show need to be rooted in firm logic to not feel like bullshit. first, you don't need to take GS seriously, it's already heavily implied that it's a literal D&D campaign, RNGesus rules this world. Just because it have negative tones, doesn't mean it want to be serious. for the elf case, you can just think it's a trope, no need to be serious. I always forgot how old is she every time i read the manga and it's not a problem. for the lord case, the empire is already in war with the demon lord, in episode 3 the elf already explained most of the country military is used to defend important cities from demon invasion. The villages where goblin attacks are usually remote areas far from the military with little or no economic significance, as long the empire can secure food supply, these village need to defend themself from the goblins. for the goblin case, it's actually hard to exterminate all goblins, you see that goblins actually can get stronger (becoming shamans or hobs or champs) so it's actually quite hard to exterminate them using cheap forces. for the mage case, they have, but have you ever see a fresh graduate from university actually know how to do their first job correctly without the help of seniors? that's the case with the mage. actually the guild is having labor shortage, especially for goblins quest. goblin quest level is actually 50/50 for newbies, they can succeed or not. the problem with goblin quest is, they are low paying quest with no prestige bc majority of this quest comes from poor villages. It's very understandable why veteran adventurers doesn't want to take this quest. they are not trying to take down the demon generals, they ask GS to help them defend a city. They all silver ranks and the one who can take the demon lord is platinum ranks. Dwarf Shaman didn't have silence spell, the Priestess is, the Priestess used her last spell making protection barriers. High Elf can run out of arrows, and considering the Ogre have high regen rate, it's probably waste of time trying to take on his eye. the ogre is also a strong fighter, same attacks wouldn't worked on him. when you see a fantasy tag, you should learn to not take things seriously~ |
Oct 28, 2018 8:21 AM
#214
The more fantastical the subject, the more realistically it should be portrayed. I can't remember who thats a quote from but it's sound advice. I was pretty sure the dwarf cast silence and the priestess cast stupor but maybe they just portrayed it confusingly in the anime. Regardless, she wouldn't have needed to use any barriers if she just silenced the ogre. The lord only recently became at war with the demon king since he was only recently resurrected. If the guild made any real attempt to keep adventurers alive, there would be no labor shortage. They are throwing away half of their work force for no reason. If literally 50% of the newbies die to goblins, theres no way everyone wouldn't be very serious about them. If 50% of real life hunters died to raccoons or something on their very first hunt, people would be warning anyone who ever even considered becoming a hunter of the very serious threat they possess. Theres no way this kind of stuff cannot bother me as long as bad things are happening. Instead of anger towards the goblins I just feel anger towards the idiots fighting them undermining the whole point. |
Oct 28, 2018 8:34 AM
#215
how can you describe GS himself as anything BUT edgy? > he lost his hometown > he lost everything he loves and values > have lost any sense of fun > he's doing this out of revenge with a very unstable mind and if you haven't noticed it yet, he runs the entire show. he IS the show. and the priestess tagging along him, she represents his unstable moral balancing scale even though he'd never admit this to himself. and the show is all about whether he finally breaks down or goes on the path of recovery. but until then, gore and blood spray all over. and I wanna see the priestess get mindbroken or something. how will GS react to that and how will the VA act his insanity? |
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Oct 28, 2018 10:19 AM
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Oct 28, 2018 10:53 AM
#217
epidemia78 said: Purple_Gh0st24 said: I am a little confused why you'd bring up Harry Potter, but to answer your question: no. Harry Potter is darker than Goblin Slayer, and something like Berserk is darker still. Harry Potter is darker than Goblin Slayer? what a strange thing to say. But still, that's absolutely true, imo. The last movies really had an impact on me. While it's ofc not horror fantasy, it still became an awesome dark fantasy. It didn't need too many shock values, instead it had emotional values in the grimdark aesthetics. Plus, the Dementors were such great creature and the Obscurial in Fantastic Beasts was "terrifying" on its on levels, mainly because of the emotions, aka the despair behind it. |
Oct 28, 2018 10:59 AM
#218
I think it's getting more attention than it deserve. Perhaps "overrated" is the right word. It's really sad to see many anime overlooked because of these. |
AyunaAniOct 28, 2018 11:03 AM
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Oct 28, 2018 11:00 AM
#219
Helios92 said: I like Gobling Slayer not just cus it's edgy, but good How is it good? It's pretty dull atm. |
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Oct 28, 2018 11:08 AM
#220
AyunaAni said: Helios92 said: I like Gobling Slayer not just cus it's edgy, but good How is it good? It's pretty dull atm. My brain is died because of Overlord and Shingeki no Kyojin |
Oct 28, 2018 11:34 AM
#221
Helios92 said: AyunaAni said: Helios92 said: I like Gobling Slayer not just cus it's edgy, but good How is it good? It's pretty dull atm. My brain is died because of Overlord and Shingeki no Kyojin You should try watching seasonal anime not just the mainstreams. It's more rewarding if you find a good anime on your own. |
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Oct 28, 2018 12:28 PM
#222
AyunaAni said: Helios92 said: AyunaAni said: Helios92 said: I like Gobling Slayer not just cus it's edgy, but good How is it good? It's pretty dull atm. My brain is died because of Overlord and Shingeki no Kyojin You should try watching seasonal anime not just the mainstreams. It's more rewarding if you find a good anime on your own. Okay. But i gotta finish HunterxHunter 2011 due to it being super later over 4-5 years :/ |
Oct 28, 2018 1:30 PM
#223
AyunaAni said: I think it's getting more attention than it deserve. Perhaps "overrated" is the right word. It's really sad to see many anime overlooked because of these. Well, as a manga reader i also didn’t like this show got too much attention while it actually should targeted to certain people. I hate it when the haters keep making same drama everyday. Bad writing, bad development, unnecessary rape, bad actions, bad world building, elf mental age, unrealistic themes, insulting the praisers, and blah blah blah. Seriously, people doesn’t care. Just because it dosen’r meet your standards doesn’t mean people should agree with your standards. |
Oct 28, 2018 5:57 PM
#224
_mary-chan_ said: The only thing that I dislike about Goblin slayer the BAD CG and thats it otherwise its kinda cool And I like how they are not afraid of showing dark scenes And its the adaptation that every every berserk fan dreamed of (ok Im exaggerating lol) Dunno, I think its wrong to judge TV releases at this point. |
Oct 29, 2018 8:52 PM
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Oct 30, 2018 6:41 PM
#226
It has no depth, and that's coming from someone who reads the manga, I'm caught up in the latest chapters btw Goblins appears, Goblin Slayer kills them, one dimensional storyline it has no depth |
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Oct 30, 2018 8:08 PM
#227
I like everything about Goblin Slayer. At first I refused to watch it because of the hate but then I gave it a try and I just watch it in silence. incisorr said: its literally perfect so far the only thing that this anime needs for me to give it a 10/10 is actual romance and feelings involved if the goblin slayer and the elf hook up this will probably be the best anime ever made Hehehe I don't know where this is going but I like the journey. Goblin Slayer x Yunde please. I would say Goblin Slayer x Musume but being a childhood friend is a death sentence in anime. |
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Oct 31, 2018 10:05 PM
#228
A solid Dark Fantasy Adventure. |
Nov 1, 2018 12:52 AM
#229
-I like how fights are not asspulls. (Including the ones in manga). -I like the characters especially GS and HE archer. -I like dark fantasy -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. |
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Nov 2, 2018 4:05 AM
#230
Shadzzo said: -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have been waiting for this so much. I don't want to look like I'm putting words in the fanbase's mouth so I've just been waiting for a fan to say this. Because that's really what a problem for a significant number of people. These people believe that Goblin Slayer is utterly incompetent in setting tension that it has to result to the cheap "If Goblin Slayer falters, his female companions, cute anime grils, get rape. Wooh~ <ghost emoji>Be very afraid." Let's be real here. The Priestess is a noob and the Elf is competent for as long as the author needs her to be. "Female protagonists who can fight" characters like her falters when the writer needs the male protagonist to shine in shows of this lackluster caliber. I'm sure you can see why that's a problem for people, females especially, when you reduce female characters to just "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. Jeffrey_Samson said: oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . How about you update your anime list and then we'll talk. With only 5 anime listed, you're not exactly going to be taken seriously mate. Especially since you vastly overstate the number of harem fanservice anime and act like they're the only thing being aired. Oh and check out Banana Fish, the acclaimed show from last season. Here's it's synopsis: Nature made Ash Lynx beautiful; nurture made him a cold ruthless killer. A runaway brought up as the adopted heir and sex toy of "Papa" Dino Golzine, Ash, now at the rebellious age of seventeen, forsakes the kingdom held out by the devil who raised him. But the hideous secret that drove Ash's older brother mad in Vietnam has suddenly fallen into Papa's insatiably ambitious hands—and it's exactly the wrong time for Eiji Okumura, a pure-hearted young photographer from Japan, to make Ash Lynx's acquaintance... A male-on-male pedophilia-rape survivor story and it didn't take even a hundredth of the flak this show takes. Rare gem my arse. |
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Nov 2, 2018 4:49 AM
#231
Eanki said: Shadzzo said: -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. I'm sure you can see why that's a problem for people, females especially, when you reduce female characters to just "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. Nope. Im completely fine if they are not virgins. I just dont want the characters i like to get raped by green midget monsters and used as a breeding livestock to the point of being mentally destroyed. And its a pretty okay way of thinking. Also "strong male they follow" is not that strong. GS is just specialized in slaying goblins and i dont see a problem with him being good at it since this anime/manga is about him slaying goblins. He also depends on priestess A LOT later on. So does on elf girl. On top of that, the strongest party in the universe of GS who killed the demon lord is a party of full females. |
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Nov 2, 2018 6:31 AM
#232
Shadzzo said: Nope. Im completely fine if they are not virgins. I just dont want the characters i like to get raped by green midget monsters and used as a breeding livestock to the point of being mentally destroyed. And its a pretty okay way of thinking. I'm pretty sure my statement was a general one, not an accusatory one so it doesn't matter what you, personally, think about their non-virgin status. It's a general statement, not a statement about you. Shadzzo said: Also "strong male they follow" is not that strong. GS is just specialized in slaying goblins and i dont see a problem with him being good at it since this anime/manga is about him slaying goblins. He also depends on priestess A LOT later on. So does on elf girl. By your standards. That remains to be seen for people like me. Shadzzo said: On top of that, the strongest party in the universe of GS who killed the demon lord is a party of full females. It's a writing crutch Brandon Sanderson called "creating a paragon" in one of his YouTube-available lectures on storytelling. For example, in this case the author created a party full of females that are barely part of the story to be the strongest to deflect criticism on how he writes the more relevant female characters. It's the writing equivalent of "I'm not racist, I have black friends." Also, strength isn't necessarily just about martial prowess or anything physical in general. There are a lot of ways to write a strong character without having him be a "badass" man mountain who taketh no shit. The author's creation of "badass" females in no way deflects the criticisms I laid down in my first post addressing you (which is about the female protagonists), so I don't really know why you included that tidbit. |
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Nov 2, 2018 7:38 AM
#233
Eanki said: Shadzzo said: -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have been waiting for this so much. I don't want to look like I'm putting words in the fanbase's mouth so I've just been waiting for a fan to say this. Because that's really what a problem for a significant number of people. These people believe that Goblin Slayer is utterly incompetent in setting tension that it has to result to the cheap "If Goblin Slayer falters, his female companions, cute anime grils, get rape. Wooh~ <ghost emoji>Be very afraid." Let's be real here. The Priestess is a noob and the Elf is competent for as long as the author needs her to be. "Female protagonists who can fight" characters like her falters when the writer needs the male protagonist to shine in shows of this lackluster caliber. I'm sure you can see why that's a problem for people, females especially, when you reduce female characters to just "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. Jeffrey_Samson said: oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . How about you update your anime list and then we'll talk. With only 5 anime listed, you're not exactly going to be taken seriously mate. Especially since you vastly overstate the number of harem fanservice anime and act like they're the only thing being aired. Oh and check out Banana Fish, the acclaimed show from last season. Here's it's synopsis: Nature made Ash Lynx beautiful; nurture made him a cold ruthless killer. A runaway brought up as the adopted heir and sex toy of "Papa" Dino Golzine, Ash, now at the rebellious age of seventeen, forsakes the kingdom held out by the devil who raised him. But the hideous secret that drove Ash's older brother mad in Vietnam has suddenly fallen into Papa's insatiably ambitious hands—and it's exactly the wrong time for Eiji Okumura, a pure-hearted young photographer from Japan, to make Ash Lynx's acquaintance... A male-on-male pedophilia-rape survivor story and it didn't take even a hundredth of the flak this show takes. Rare gem my arse. 5 anime? Oh u mean the ones I rated in animelis. I have seen about 200 plus anime for the past 8 years. I just recently joined animelist. By recently I mean during October 2018. I could try to rate every anime I saw but I have no time to rate all of them. I have seen all kinds of anime from every genre. To action adventure harem romance fantasy comedy etc. My favourites are the ones that don't revolve around fanservice or harem. After that I love adventure anime. ( Excluding op asspull unless it's reasonable ) |
Nov 2, 2018 7:53 AM
#234
Jeffrey_Samson said: Eanki said: Shadzzo said: -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have been waiting for this so much. I don't want to look like I'm putting words in the fanbase's mouth so I've just been waiting for a fan to say this. Because that's really what a problem for a significant number of people. These people believe that Goblin Slayer is utterly incompetent in setting tension that it has to result to the cheap "If Goblin Slayer falters, his female companions, cute anime grils, get rape. Wooh~ <ghost emoji>Be very afraid." Let's be real here. The Priestess is a noob and the Elf is competent for as long as the author needs her to be. "Female protagonists who can fight" characters like her falters when the writer needs the male protagonist to shine in shows of this lackluster caliber. I'm sure you can see why that's a problem for people, females especially, when you reduce female characters to just "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. Jeffrey_Samson said: oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . How about you update your anime list and then we'll talk. With only 5 anime listed, you're not exactly going to be taken seriously mate. Especially since you vastly overstate the number of harem fanservice anime and act like they're the only thing being aired. Oh and check out Banana Fish, the acclaimed show from last season. Here's it's synopsis: Nature made Ash Lynx beautiful; nurture made him a cold ruthless killer. A runaway brought up as the adopted heir and sex toy of "Papa" Dino Golzine, Ash, now at the rebellious age of seventeen, forsakes the kingdom held out by the devil who raised him. But the hideous secret that drove Ash's older brother mad in Vietnam has suddenly fallen into Papa's insatiably ambitious hands—and it's exactly the wrong time for Eiji Okumura, a pure-hearted young photographer from Japan, to make Ash Lynx's acquaintance... A male-on-male pedophilia-rape survivor story and it didn't take even a hundredth of the flak this show takes. Rare gem my arse. 5 anime? Oh u mean the ones I rated in animelis. I have seen about 200 plus anime for the past 8 years. I just recently joined animelist. By recently I mean during October 2018. I could try to rate every anime I saw but I have no time to rate all of them. I have seen all kinds of anime from every genre. To action adventure harem romance fantasy comedy etc. My favourites are the ones that don't revolve around fanservice or harem. After that I love adventure anime. ( Excluding op asspull unless it's reasonable ) Eanki said: Shadzzo said: -I dont understand why people find rape cheap as its a part of the world and a reality lol. Avoiding the topic wont make it disappear. I think it gives a sense of danger towards the female characters you like. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I have been waiting for this so much. I don't want to look like I'm putting words in the fanbase's mouth so I've just been waiting for a fan to say this. Because that's really what a problem for a significant number of people. These people believe that Goblin Slayer is utterly incompetent in setting tension that it has to result to the cheap "If Goblin Slayer falters, his female companions, cute anime grils, get rape. Wooh~ <ghost emoji>Be very afraid." Let's be real here. The Priestess is a noob and the Elf is competent for as long as the author needs her to be. "Female protagonists who can fight" characters like her falters when the writer needs the male protagonist to shine in shows of this lackluster caliber. I'm sure you can see why that's a problem for people, females especially, when you reduce female characters to just "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. Jeffrey_Samson said: oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . How about you update your anime list and then we'll talk. With only 5 anime listed, you're not exactly going to be taken seriously mate. Especially since you vastly overstate the number of harem fanservice anime and act like they're the only thing being aired. Oh and check out Banana Fish, the acclaimed show from last season. Here's it's synopsis: Nature made Ash Lynx beautiful; nurture made him a cold ruthless killer. A runaway brought up as the adopted heir and sex toy of "Papa" Dino Golzine, Ash, now at the rebellious age of seventeen, forsakes the kingdom held out by the devil who raised him. But the hideous secret that drove Ash's older brother mad in Vietnam has suddenly fallen into Papa's insatiably ambitious hands—and it's exactly the wrong time for Eiji Okumura, a pure-hearted young photographer from Japan, to make Ash Lynx's acquaintance... A male-on-male pedophilia-rape survivor story and it didn't take even a hundredth of the flak this show takes. Rare gem my arse. 5 anime? Oh u mean the ones I rated in animelis. I have seen about 200 plus anime for the past 8 years. I just recently joined animelist. By recently I mean during October 2018. I could try to rate every anime I saw but I have no time to rate all of them. I have seen all kinds of anime from every genre. To action adventure harem romance fantasy comedy etc. My favourites are the ones that don't revolve around fanservice or harem. After that I love adventure anime. ( Excluding op asspull unless it's reasonable ) Btw GS is a rare gem. Period.mainly because the hero is not op and the danger is real. No one punches no overpowered characters. What more do you want? This is what reality feels. Even if women are powerful if they are defeated and if the said person or goblin is lusty then they will be raped. War and battles turns any man into monsters. Rape always happens during wartimes either by armies or bandits. Even in the present women are being raped. It's a harsh reality we live in. And GS did its best to make it clear. I know a very strong boxer woman who was beaten and raped as well . Men are despicable creatures if they can't handle their carnal lusty desires. But who can blame them. Either war makes them insane or they just simply succumb to the pleasures of rape. More than half of the anime I saw ( of the 200+ ) had op MC. So you can feel how happy I was when I found an anime where the MC isn't op but fights with experience. If you include the anime we have both seen then we are both somewhat nearly seen the same amount of anime. And I also watch ongoing anime . But I didn't set them in animelist asobi asobase grand blue irozuku slime anime hataraku saibou k on etc etc. I have also seen and I love horizon. Cause the MC is not too op. He and his friends may be strong but the MC uses strategy every time they fight. That's the main reason I loved it. Plus the world building was good Grimgar( sorry donno the exact words ) as you said is better than goblin slayer. No denying there. The anime started with people who were nubs in that world. But they slowly grew stronger. No asspull no op. Just pure hard work and training. However grimgar is not entirely dark fantasy. While goblin slayer is. Other than that both anime are good. If you can look away the rape scene in GS |
Nov 2, 2018 8:03 AM
#235
Jeffrey_Samson said: However grimgar is not entirely dark fantasy. While goblin slayer is. Other than that both anime are good. If you can look away the rape scene in GS Ignore him my dude. He somehow managed to get offended by GS because: " "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. " Unlike normal people who would show a reaction similar to "fuck goblins. lets kill them all!" Their sjw brains dont work correctly. |
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Nov 2, 2018 8:11 AM
#236
I don't hate it or love it. I can say the lore is compelling and animation is nice. Gs is nice and all but being a silent protag isn't really much (also applies to doomguy) and i really only like him cause he kills. Tbh not much to say about the show. Its just killing goblins, it doesnt try to be complex like Blundells Zombies or even to the extent of berserk. (One of them is actually good) I realistically can only give it a 6 for just being there. Really not much is to care for other than the spicy maymay. |
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Nov 2, 2018 8:16 AM
#237
Jeffrey_Samson said: you're just being lazy. Harem anime is barely even in peoples views and ecchi only has dedicated fans. If anything there is more series being dedicated to trying new stuff out than what you say. People who like GS arent even realistic (what ever the fuck that means) people as they like a protag that is op and bland.(just like doomguy) oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . |
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Nov 2, 2018 8:56 AM
#238
I've already mentioned it in another thread, but I only watched episode 1 for now, but the two halves of the episode were so extremely different that I am honestly feeling confused about my own feelings regarding that first episode. The short answer: The first half of EP1 was almost garbage and the second half of EP1 was fairly decent, resulting in an "OK" evaluation from me. The long answer: The first half was terrible, it was still good when it only showed the priestess and the guild receptionist but after the adventurers showed up, it felt like EVERY. SINGLE. SCENE. just existed to showcase how utterly retarded and overconfident the newbies were. Normally I would have expected the newbies to be at least somewhat excited about their "first quest" and the novelty of doing quests in itself, but instead they were like "oh we have to do this beginner stuff for now, how annoying, let's get this over with so I can become the King of Adventurers!" and it really felt like the script was supposed to include the whole "dislike for low-level quests" and why some people probably look down on Goblin Slayer for only doing low-level Goblin subjugation quests. But they shouldn't have done that. The adventurers felt so damn unnatural and forced and cringy and over-the-top plot induced stupidity that I lost count of how many times I had to roll my eyes at these adventurers and how the anime decided to present them. It felt like the script was designed to insult the audience's intelligence or something. The second half was quite good though. The whole methodic killing of Goblins in ways that probably wouldn't be possible in most regular console/computer RPGs, but is something that people often try doing in table-top RPG (i.e. the "outside the box" methods), was very interesting to watch. By the way, I don't get the whole controversy. Neither those calling it overly dark nor those being completely shocked about the rape stuff. I felt absolutely nothing about those scenes. But I don't think it's a problem of me being "desensatized", but rather the problem of the people who are so overly shocked or offended simply being unable to properly set the borders between fiction and reality. IT'S FICTION! |
Nov 2, 2018 8:57 AM
#239
Shadzzo said: Jeffrey_Samson said: However grimgar is not entirely dark fantasy. While goblin slayer is. Other than that both anime are good. If you can look away the rape scene in GS Ignore him my dude. He somehow managed to get offended by GS because: " "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. " Unlike normal people who would show a reaction similar to "fuck goblins. lets kill them all!" Their sjw brains dont work correctly. You seem to misconstrue me as the one getting "offended" because of the rape scene when I specifically worded that statement to mean that this is why females I know are put off by the rape scene, not because it's a rape scene but because of how that rape scene plays in the greater context of the narrative. Do read again and clearly this time. Try not to shut out and get defensive when opinions don't match yours. In fact, if you read my preliminary review or my post in the first page of this thread, you'll notice that the part I really took offense at is the show being 1.) one of the many all-too-easy examples of bad grimdark that people can point at to ridicule the grimdark aesthetic as a whole, and 2.) because the show's fight scenes clearly lacks either a sense of realistic weight and gravity OR great cinematography and choreography aka "either be a realistic fight sequence or be an awesome fight sequence; it's okay not to be the former as long as you're the latter". Jeffrey_Samson said: 5 anime? Oh u mean the ones I rated in animelis. I have seen about 200 plus anime for the past 8 years. I just recently joined animelist. By recently I mean during October 2018. I could try to rate every anime I saw but I have no time to rate all of them. I have seen all kinds of anime from every genre. To action adventure harem romance fantasy comedy etc. My favourites are the ones that don't revolve around fanservice or harem. After that I love adventure anime. ( Excluding op asspull unless it's reasonable ) You're here since October 2017. |
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Nov 2, 2018 9:08 AM
#240
Shadzzo said: Jeffrey_Samson said: However grimgar is not entirely dark fantasy. While goblin slayer is. Other than that both anime are good. If you can look away the rape scene in GS Ignore him my dude. He somehow managed to get offended by GS because: " "Their purity will be in danger if the strong male they follow fails". This is compounded by anime's unhealthy obsession with purity and the disdain accorded to characters that are canonically not virgin, to the ridiculous extent that Japan even writes girls confident in their sexuality as virgins because otherwise they're not desirable. " Unlike normal people who would show a reaction similar to "fuck goblins. lets kill them all!" Their sjw brains dont work correctly. You r right I told him I have been seeing anime for 8 years while he sticks with me from 2017 . Lol . I guess many people take GS negatively. I am good as long as people like me and you and others around to respect GS for the anime it is. |
Nov 2, 2018 9:18 AM
#241
Botan-Chan45 said: Jeffrey_Samson said: you're just being lazy. Harem anime is barely even in peoples views and ecchi only has dedicated fans. If anything there is more series being dedicated to trying new stuff out than what you say. People who like GS arent even realistic (what ever the fuck that means) people as they like a protag that is op and bland.(just like doomguy) oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . I am far from lazy. I don't care if the anime is harem or fanservice. What I want is the story must be reasonable and the harem and fanservice must have their reasons and not shown only for the sake of audience. If you take away the goblins and keep real humans there. Then that is exactly what happeneds in a real war. Men fight . Many die. The winners or losers lose their minds sometimes. Some go to rape women. Others get into violence. Others become sadistic and enjoy killing Goblin slayer has no actual plot besides killing goblins. I know that. but after seeing many anime with good stories I see no reason to try something different. Cause exactly as you said anime industry is trying to make newer anime and goblin slayer is one of them. When I said only realistic people see GS. I meant about the similarities GS have with the real world. Imagine the incidents happening in real life. The MC will not think of the world. He will only think of revenge and so he will do what he wants. The world around him will go on its own way. But the person who suffered will only want revenge and follow through it. Showing little care or little attention to the world. That's exactly what happeneds in GS. Army men fight to protect their country. To them their country is their world. But to a man who wants vengeance or who has seen his family get killed brutally . Then he would only see a world where killing the said people makes him content. That is exactly what GS is trying to tell us. The world he lives in is going its own way. GS doesn't care about that he only cares for killing goblins. This is not a story where we have a super awesome world and a super powered hero MC who would bring joy to the world and kill any enemies that would threaten the world.( But there is someone like that in GS but never shown yet) . It's only about GS and his goblin slaying nothing more nothing less. But who knows in the future it may change. |
Nov 2, 2018 9:28 AM
#242
Jeffrey_Samson said: I think you need a doctor. You just conpared irl to fiction. "Oh rape happens irl so it's true but brutal," is a line not a normal person thinks. And then you say that gs is new, lmfao no. Berserk has done dark story elements, Tokyo Ghoul, many other. I think you are still too lazy and try to compare irl when you are making a comparison to a magical world to ours.Botan-Chan45 said: Jeffrey_Samson said: oguba said: I love it because I was sick of harem, ecchi, comedy type of shows. I finally found a dark fantasy show that isn't afraid of showing. I don't give a crap what other people think of the show and they can call me a bad person who enjoys sickening things and blah blah blah... Like I said, don't give a crap. You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. I detest these anime cause they r annoying to watch. Harem trains, fanservice blablabla. There r billions of hentai anime and xx to satisfy our every needs. So why the useless fanservice and harems in an anime that has a chance to become a good anime? And then we get goblin slayer. Like you said it's not afraid to get dirty which in itself most fantasy anime fail to show besides a few. The rape scenes were brutal but in real life rape is a common occurrence only the rapers r fellow humans who are dropped to lust and insanity. I don't care about the rape scenes cause I never cared for fanservices in anime cause there r hentai for that purpose. I checked why rape happened in goblins. " It's the goblin's only way of reproduction and it's fun for them. " That should ring a bell cause replace goblins with humans and it's Preety much the same. The most important thing of all is that the MC and his squad are not op or badasses. GS uses his brains and his experience with goblins to find better smarter ways to kill them. If people like kirito or natsu was in his place. Then they will only do one hit ko for all the enemies whoever they may be. For natsu his power up is friendship which can even one shot ( spoiler) fairy heart zeref and space time acnologia. The hate for goblin slayer is beyond stupid. GS is doing its best to be a dark fantasy anime. The only things I hate about GS is the MC is mostly CGI. And the othercharacters have no specific backgrounds yet. But there's a different reason for that. In the novels the story is actually a board game player by the good and.bad gods. And all the characters are chess pieces. So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. It may be hated by people. Excluding the people who see GS for the rape scenes being a turn on. Other people who truly understand what GS is trying to do are truly realistic people . I am far from lazy. I don't care if the anime is harem or fanservice. What I want is the story must be reasonable and the harem and fanservice must have their reasons and not shown only for the sake of audience. If you take away the goblins and keep real humans there. Then that is exactly what happeneds in a real war. Men fight . Many die. The winners or losers lose their minds sometimes. Some go to rape women. Others get into violence. Others become sadistic and enjoy killing Goblin slayer has no actual plot besides killing goblins. I know that. but after seeing many anime with good stories I see no reason to try something different. Cause exactly as you said anime industry is trying to make newer anime and goblin slayer is one of them. When I said only realistic people see GS. I meant about the similarities GS have with the real world. Imagine the incidents happening in real life. The MC will not think of the world. He will only think of revenge and so he will do what he wants. The world around him will go on its own way. But the person who suffered will only want revenge and follow through it. Showing little care or little attention to the world. That's exactly what happeneds in GS. Army men fight to protect their country. To them their country is their world. But to a man who wants vengeance or who has seen his family get killed brutally . Then he would only see a world where killing the said people makes him content. That is exactly what GS is trying to tell us. The world he lives in is going its own way. GS doesn't care about that he only cares for killing goblins. This is not a story where we have a super awesome world and a super powered hero MC who would bring joy to the world and kill any enemies that would threaten the world.( But there is someone like that in GS but never shown yet) . It's only about GS and his goblin slaying nothing more nothing less. But who knows in the future it may change. |
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Nov 2, 2018 11:32 PM
#243
Jeffrey_Samson said: You r right I told him I have been seeing anime for 8 years while he sticks with me from 2017. Okay mate, let's recap: 1.) You made a wildly inaccurate generalization of "most anime nowadays" and erroneously concluded that ecchi/harem/shonen are the ones getting loved when it's only AoT and MHA that's heavily loved in these categories while series' like Eromanga and Smartphone are getting either mercilessly roasted or ironically favorited. If I present to you the list of acclaimed and well loved anime in the 2016-2018 period, you'll note the lack of the qualities you heavily criticized and implied are getting all the love. Jeffrey_Samson said: You r spot on man. People can say what they want. But the real fact is most anime nowadays are ones 1. Have an op character usually followed by a harem train. He never loses any fight and one shots every enemy. 2. Generic usual romance anime 3. Shounen anime like fairy tail. And many others fully depend on fanservice to catch audience. And the enemies whom r super strong always gets beaten usually by one punches. 4. Then there's that one anime where to obtain a demon power the MC literally fingers a loli succubus while his harem train watches. 5. I don't think I have to say about SAO anime like these are loved and getting famous. [...] So in the community where harem anime mostly which have useless characters with no background. Fanservice anime. Op anime. Goblin slayer is like a rare jewel. 2.) Ergo, I replied: "With only 5 anime listed, you're not exactly going to be taken seriously mate. Especially since you vastly overstate the number of harem fanservice anime and act like they're the only thing being aired." 3.) You then replied you've been here since October 2018 and then went off an unnecessary tangent that's not pertinent to the discussion at hand, which is whether or not you are qualified to make sweeping generalizations of airing anime. 4.) To which I simply corrected that you're here since October 2017, not 2018. So before I leave, allow me to leave you with one crucial unwritten rule in the MAL forums: never make sweeping generalizations when your anime list is that empty. Try doing that in the Anime Discussion subforum, I dare you. Heck try posting your initial post that I replied to there, and at best your post will be laugh out as poor bait or written off as an alt trying to troll. Just a tip: Don't; not even if you have watched 200 anime the past eight years because that's not enough to form a truly well-informed picture of anime that aired the past eight years. |
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Nov 3, 2018 5:59 AM
#244
Blue_Reaper said: AyunaAni said: I think it's getting more attention than it deserve. Perhaps "overrated" is the right word. It's really sad to see many anime overlooked because of these. Well, as a manga reader i also didn’t like this show got too much attention while it actually should targeted to certain people. I hate it when the haters keep making same drama everyday. Bad writing, bad development, unnecessary rape, bad actions, bad world building, elf mental age, unrealistic themes, insulting the praisers, and blah blah blah. Seriously, people doesn’t care. Just because it dosen’r meet your standards doesn’t mean people should agree with your standards. Careful mate, with that line of thinking, you may come to realise that most objections come from ignorance where a "I don't know, I should look this up" would be a better point. |
Nov 3, 2018 9:55 AM
#245
Its kinda funny the people who goes....oh, finally, a mature show , im sick of harem shit . Yet, you go to the more specific forums or the sub reddit and literlaly everyhing you see is discussion abou who is best girl. Talking about it, every girl is a moeblob. So, yeah, totally not your typical anime ....xd |
Nov 3, 2018 11:28 AM
#246
TheArgonaut88 said: exactly the same mature people who can handle rape or violance if a mc dead they start bitching because their pair are ruinedIts kinda funny the people who goes....oh, finally, a mature show , im sick of harem shit . Yet, you go to the more specific forums or the sub reddit and literlaly everyhing you see is discussion abou who is best girl. Talking about it, every girl is a moeblob. So, yeah, totally not your typical anime ....xd |
Nov 3, 2018 11:37 AM
#247
yeah, you can like GS , i quite like it, bu dont need to be pretentious abou it or call it something that is not |
Nov 6, 2018 6:58 AM
#248
First of all: Finally another fantasy-show that is set in something reasonably approximating medieval times! And without characters beamed in from present-day!! But: * The violence is still too tame in terms of how graphic it is. When I compare this to the other two big dark-fantasy-series (Claymore and Berserk) in which limbs and guts keep flying around this really is the family-friendly version of it. * It's also not dark enough for my taste. The first episode aside, there was never any reason to be afraid for anyone and notably nobody died. Granted, the first slaughter of protagonists in Claymore appeared in episode 8 in Claymore and it took even longer in Berserk, but something tells me that we won't see that in goblin-slayer. Which would mean that there are no stakes in it. Even the general feeling of the show is more like “happy guild-live” than “dreadfully awaiting the next disaster”, that the mentioned shows provide. Heck, even “Seirei no Moribito” and “the twelve Kingdoms” feature more dread. * Too much fanservice: I don't mind being shown stuff that is relevant to the plot (for example the rape-scene) or if it is relevant for a character (for example you SHOULD go crazy with fanservice on a succubus), but there is no reason why the red-haired-girl has to show of her overly-huge breasts like she does all the time. (I'm not yet sure about the smoking mage in the guild, she might qualify under the second category, I'd have to see more of her to be certain.) Now, to it's defence, I always say “do it or do not do it, but don't half-ass it” and at least goblin-slayer seems to follow that note. Doesn't change anything about the fact that the complete lack of fanservice in Claymores created a more powerful image.) Also, a note on the rape-scene: I don't get why people have an issue with it; it was extremely short and directly after somebody got KILLED(!) which is a strictly worse fate. People who can't deal with that should simply stick to kids-shows. |
Nov 6, 2018 12:32 PM
#249
Mainly judging the series from the manga. Yeah the anime has shit animation and is just low quality all around. Likes: > Inspired from tabletop RPGs > Has some actual interesting ideas > Fun action scenes in which Goblin Slayer commits genocide >Sword Maiden's boobs Dislikes: Holy shit the worldbuilding is shit, and it's tonally inconsistent for it being a "dark" fantasy. From Goblins needing to rape people to procreate, to goblins somehow being considered a "low-threat" even though they've been destroying villages in the frontier for years is just fucking stupid. It's no wonder Goblin Slayer's setting is a meme on /tg/. Nothing about it actually makes sense. |
Nov 6, 2018 1:54 PM
#250
i'll just quote 1d4chan's about the series' world building Criticism about setting As stated above, this manga is undoubtedly a very, very controversial topic thanks to the inconsistent setting. It’s a setting with two opposing gods, which is presented as a game much like D&D, and this makes many inconsistencies within the manga/LN. Many threads have been taken up by arguments around this. One common criticism is the unrecognized threat of the goblins. Year One shows that goblin invasions have destroyed entire villages for years and that despite that, they’re still thought as the lowest of threats. There is an abundance of evidence against them being such low threats with the guild reporting to have to send multiple teams of new adventurers with many teams wiping. It’s also been stated that there exists stories (in universe stories) with the manga about adventurers having their teams almost entirely killed and survivors being traumatized exist and are common stories too. One explanation given is that only low level adventurers take jobs fighting goblins due to low pay but this doesn’t explain the belief that goblins are weak. It’s possible to think of a job as both high-risk and low pay, that the goblins are deadly and unrewarding to fight, at the same time with no contradiction. It also doesn’t explain how the abundance of rape stories and wiped teams doesn’t encourage the adventurer’s guild to either stop sending untrained noobs to fight goblins, start training the noobs (which, to be fair, is shown in one scene but it's a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment), or to increase awareness of this threat because dead adventurers can’t do anything profitable. Goblin Slayer is just about the only one to recognize this threat but doesn’t actively spread the knowledge among the other adventurers. The only possible excuse is that the human cities are far too many and expansive to count villages wiped by Goblins a loss. A really big complaint is how was the world in a situation for this reputation and others to come up to begin with. The goblins are shown to employ poisoned weapons & infected wounds exist yet everyone behaves like in a JRPG world anyway & some wear bikini armor. So many characters, new or experienced, never wear a helmet (besides Goblin slayer) despite the dangers of that and goblins being shown to cheap shot the head. Do the dragons everyone fights at high levels never aim for the head or are high level guys just immune to head damage? How did they survive so long to become high level? There's even a barbarian with a high level axe in one scene who goes down with one stab for not having any armor but how did that barbarian manage to be successful & get that high level axe to begin with? Did he never suffer any infections or any injuries to tell him to cover up until that point? They say that this series is set in a DnD 5th ED session with a 5th ED character sheet shown at one point so one can guess he gets bonuses for being unarmored (thus why he has no armor as armor would weaken him) but how did a high level 5th Ed Barbarian go down in one hit like that considering his bare skin should be hard as steel? The above criticism too is another problem. How did the goblins = weak reputation sprout up if TPKs from goblins are such a common thing among low levels? This series tries setting up [1] for people underestimating enemies & fighting without head protection but the deconstruction itself makes no sense. It's like if someone tried saying don't bring a knife to a gunfight with one caveman with a gun shooting a caveman with a club but doesn't answer where the hell did a caveman get a gun to begin with. They have the payout but the setup makes no sense. Adding to this, the protagonist has been criticized on some grounds for his tactics, calling them an illusion of pragmatism instead of actual pragmatism. One thing he does is deliberately use low quality weapons and armor because he doesn't want enemies looting his corpse to obtain good weapons in the event of death. This attracted much criticism. For one, having worse equips makes him more likely to die and be looted as a bad sword breaking at the worst moment or armor that fails to protect could easily lead to death and thus looting. Some say he's preparing so hard for events occurring after his death that he might wound up becoming dead because of his own preparation. Next, what good will some of his loot help goblins? Some fa/tg/uys noticed that goblins usually come either much smaller or much larger than him. They noted that he could simply equip himself with armor which won't fit his enemies (easily done by picking armor that fits himself) and force his enemies to destroy his armor by breaking it up, thus reducing its effectiveness, in order to use it, assuming they don't choose to leave his armor with his corpse for being a bad fit. As an extension of that, some question the effectiveness of his equipment being taken, noting that a medium quality sword in the hands of a goblin isn't anywhere close to as threatening as the protagonist armed with the same weapon considering the protagonist can kill plenty of goblins with low quality weapons. The goblins in this manga have not been shown to maintain their weapons and their best equipment is stolen or looted, so it's possible that any weapons or armor they take will eventually rust and thus a good weapon will do our protagonist much better, assuming proper maintenance, than a goblin with the same weapon in the long run too. A long run the first point suggests will last longer if the protagonist considered decreasing the chances of his own death, rather than increase those chances with purposely poor quality equipment. The above doesn't even begin on the multi-thread long debates on the setting and feasibility of organisations like the adventure guild. This all can take many pages to explain, but the Fantasy Doomguy on steroids makes it at least readable. |
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