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Sep 27, 2016 10:31 PM
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I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Or just anything Chinese is fine too. Thanks in advance! |
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Sep 27, 2016 11:53 PM
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Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Ye, I'm already reading Kingdom, in fact I'm reading it this moment (I'm at around chapter 136). I'll try Saiungoku Monogatari. Tx for the recommendation |
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Sep 27, 2016 11:54 PM
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Looks pretty interesting. Tx |
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Sep 28, 2016 1:11 AM
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Song of the Long March Scarlet Palace |
Sep 28, 2016 4:08 AM
#6
Sounds good, Thanks. |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:10 AM
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That was the first anime I've watched :) around 8 years ago. I'll try the other one. Tx! |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:12 AM
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Turtles_Leader said: Well, there is Hoshin. It's losely based on Chinese litterature, and tell the end of the Shang dynasty and the coming of the Zhou one. It mix historic fact with mythological ones, and give good chinese mythology oriented fantasy manga. Yes, I'm familiar with the tale, the version I know is called 封神榜. I'll try it, tx for the suggestion. |
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Sep 28, 2016 7:21 AM
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Saiunkoku Monogatari is based on China during the T'ang Dynasty (600-900 CE) based on its architectures and wardrobes. Juuni Kokuki also uses ancient China as a model with a strong reliance on the Confucian "mandate of heaven." Seirei no Moribito is actually based on Korea, I believe. I recall hearing about some animosity toward the show from xenophobic Japanese viewers who hate anything Korean. |
Sep 28, 2016 7:42 AM
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SeijiSensei said: Seirei no Moribito is actually based on Korea, I believe. I recall hearing about some animosity toward the show from xenophobic Japanese viewers who hate anything Korean. well I think Seirei no moribito is pure fantasy that have a character that has korean-ish name Japanese wikipedia says it is based on Japan,India,Mongol empire,Malacca Sultanate Also it is written in 1996 and at that time few Japanese people know Korea beyond its name and location,unlike Chinese history which has been very popular for a long time in Japan. |
Sep 28, 2016 7:48 AM
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alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales |
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Sep 28, 2016 7:55 AM
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SeijiSensei said: Saiunkoku Monogatari is based on China during the T'ang Dynasty (600-900 CE) based on its architectures and wardrobes. Juuni Kokuki also uses ancient China as a model with a strong reliance on the Confucian "mandate of heaven." Seirei no Moribito is actually based on Korea, I believe. I recall hearing about some animosity toward the show from xenophobic Japanese viewers who hate anything Korean. If the author based Moribito off Korea, then she screwed up big time, as the type of landscape in is, is very unique to China. However by large the Japanese utterly hate the Chinese, so maybe you're mixing the two. Or you could be mixing it up with Yona of the Dawn, which is based on Korean mythology? |
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Sep 28, 2016 7:59 AM
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No, I think it has to do with Balsa's home country of Kanbal being vaguely Korean. The empire in the story is more likely modeled on China. All the discussions I'm referring to happened in places like the "-chans" a decade ago. Forgive me if my memory is not entirely accurate. |
Sep 28, 2016 5:47 PM
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SeijiSensei said: Saiunkoku Monogatari is based on China during the T'ang Dynasty (600-900 CE) based on its architectures and wardrobes. Juuni Kokuki also uses ancient China as a model with a strong reliance on the Confucian "mandate of heaven." Seirei no Moribito is actually based on Korea, I believe. I recall hearing about some animosity toward the show from xenophobic Japanese viewers who hate anything Korean. Tx for the suggestion |
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Sep 28, 2016 6:08 PM
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Fushi Yuugi. I'm suprised nobody has mentioned this yet. It's about a girl who gets trapped in a book that takes place in ancient China. She's told that she's the sacred priestess of the local deity and that she has to help defend the kingdom against war from a rival kingdom. |
Sep 28, 2016 6:16 PM
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Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Thank you! I'll try them |
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Sep 28, 2016 6:33 PM
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alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Thank you! I'll try them Yep np, glad to help, there's a bunch of great anime in that list too, so I'm sure you're going to have a amazing time :) |
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Sep 29, 2016 12:31 AM
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XanthReborn said: Fushi Yuugi. I'm suprised nobody has mentioned this yet. It's about a girl who gets trapped in a book that takes place in ancient China. She's told that she's the sacred priestess of the local deity and that she has to help defend the kingdom against war from a rival kingdom. Sounds good, thanks. |
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Sep 29, 2016 12:58 AM
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If you're open to checking out "anime" that actually comes from China, there're a lot listed in the Chinese Anime club: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=42215 |
Sep 29, 2016 1:57 AM
#20
If you don't mind some ecchi/shoujo ai, you could check out Koihime Musou Or possibly Reikenzan no Hoshikuzu-tachi (it's based on a Chinese comic) |
Sep 29, 2016 8:39 AM
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Congress said: If you're open to checking out "anime" that actually comes from China, there're a lot listed in the Chinese Anime club: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=42215 Omg thank you, didn't know such a club existed :) |
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Sep 29, 2016 11:13 AM
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malonur said: Khalan said: If you don't mind some ecchi/shoujo ai, you could check out Koihime Musou Or possibly Reikenzan no Hoshikuzu-tachi (it's based on a Chinese comic) Have yo ueven read teh op? he wants an an,me/manga witch Chinese setting which your recs are not. Just becasue they are loosely based on Chinese novels or comics doesnt mean it fits what op wants. But you haven't even watched them yourself... And have YOU even read the OP post? He says that anything that is Chinese is fine too. |
Sep 29, 2016 6:17 PM
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Congress said: If you're open to checking out "anime" that actually comes from China, there're a lot listed in the Chinese Anime club: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=42215 Looks good. The mangas doesn't have to be made by Chinese authors, but just with Chinese elements. Thanks for the info! |
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Sep 29, 2016 6:23 PM
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Khalan said: If you don't mind some ecchi/shoujo ai, you could check out Koihime Musou Or possibly Reikenzan no Hoshikuzu-tachi (it's based on a Chinese comic) Fantasy tag for second one :) Tx I'll try them |
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Sep 29, 2016 8:42 PM
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malonur said: Khalan said: malonur said: Khalan said: If you don't mind some ecchi/shoujo ai, you could check out Koihime Musou Or possibly Reikenzan no Hoshikuzu-tachi (it's based on a Chinese comic) Have yo ueven read teh op? he wants an an,me/manga witch Chinese setting which your recs are not. Just becasue they are loosely based on Chinese novels or comics doesnt mean it fits what op wants. But you haven't even watched them yourself... And how do you know that? And it seems op changed his post after he's written it. Khalan said: malonur said: Khalan said: If you don't mind some ecchi/shoujo ai, you could check out Koihime Musou Or possibly Reikenzan no Hoshikuzu-tachi (it's based on a Chinese comic) Have yo ueven read teh op? he wants an an,me/manga witch Chinese setting which your recs are not. Just becasue they are loosely based on Chinese novels or comics doesnt mean it fits what op wants. But you haven't even watched them yourself... And have YOU even read the OP post? He says that anything that is Chinese is fine too. Yes, I edited my thread description later on saying that anything chinese is ok too, since someone gave me recommendations that are just related to China, so I thought I'll just take anything that's related and try them out to see if I like them. I guess Khalan came after the edit. |
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Sep 29, 2016 8:48 PM
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Manga : kingdom Manuha: wu dong qian kun shen ying wang zuo zui wu dao |
Sep 29, 2016 8:51 PM
#27
Tx for the recs, I'm reading Kingdom rn, are the manhuas made in China? |
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Sep 29, 2016 8:56 PM
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Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods |
Sep 29, 2016 9:03 PM
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Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods ahhhh.... ok tx :) |
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Sep 30, 2016 7:24 AM
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Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa |
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Sep 30, 2016 8:21 AM
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alostsoul said: Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa ooh sry my bad its manhua ...just made an error while typing |
Sep 30, 2016 8:24 AM
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Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa ooh sry my bad its manhua ...just made an error while typing ahh ok, cuz you did the exact same typo twice, which made me thought that it's what you meant. haha. |
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Sep 30, 2016 9:39 AM
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alostsoul said: Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa ooh sry my bad its manhua ...just made an error while typing ahh ok, cuz you did the exact same typo twice, which made me thought that it's what you meant. haha. sometimes i type really fast on my keyboard because ill be watching anime on the next window and have a strange habit of not pausing ^_^...........so few mistakes happen like ...most common one is "issanime.to" :P, i usually gently tap on the 'k' :P anyway yu got the right one in the end ^_^ |
Oct 1, 2016 2:46 AM
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Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa ooh sry my bad its manhua ...just made an error while typing ahh ok, cuz you did the exact same typo twice, which made me thought that it's what you meant. haha. sometimes i type really fast on my keyboard because ill be watching anime on the next window and have a strange habit of not pausing ^_^...........so few mistakes happen like ...most common one is "issanime.to" :P, i usually gently tap on the 'k' :P anyway yu got the right one in the end ^_^ I also use kissmanga/anime :) pssssst there's a site called kisshentai |
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Oct 1, 2016 2:53 AM
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Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. |
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Oct 1, 2016 3:38 AM
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alostsoul said: Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: alostsoul said: Hydrous said: Yes they are Manga: Japnese.....er: death note,berserk Manhwa: korean.....eg: noblesse,DICE Manuha: chinese.....eg: tales of demons and gods is it manhua or manuha? cuz in chinese 漫畫 sounds more like manhua/manhwa ooh sry my bad its manhua ...just made an error while typing ahh ok, cuz you did the exact same typo twice, which made me thought that it's what you meant. haha. sometimes i type really fast on my keyboard because ill be watching anime on the next window and have a strange habit of not pausing ^_^...........so few mistakes happen like ...most common one is "issanime.to" :P, i usually gently tap on the 'k' :P anyway yu got the right one in the end ^_^ I also use kissmanga/anime :) pssssst there's a site called kisshentai haha...my parents will ill me if i watch hentai ^_^ ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
Oct 1, 2016 5:03 AM
#37
alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. |
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Oct 1, 2016 6:43 AM
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Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. I get that Kingdom is a war Manga, but the fact that the author tried to make it at the same time historical isn't really necessary, even misleading. He made the Qin army seem extremely strong, but he failed to explain why the Qin is so strong. He also missed out the whole strategy and policies part, and the most famous element of the Warring states era - the lobbyists. Again, I am fully aware that this is a war story, but the way he depicts the story is just too misleading. And sure, I'll give the anime a try. btw, for The Legend of Qin, do you mean after the Warring states era? and ye, I'm pretty familiar with the atrocities that zheng committed, including burning books and burying scholars. He achieved many great deeds but at the same time was a cruel emperor, he's a real controversy. |
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Oct 1, 2016 7:07 AM
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alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. I get that Kingdom is a war Manga, but the fact that the author tried to make it at the same time historical isn't really necessary, even misleading. He made the Qin army seem extremely strong, but he failed to explain why the Qin is so strong. He also missed out the whole strategy and policies part, and the most famous element of the Warring states era - the lobbyists. Again, I am fully aware that this is a war story, but the way he depicts the story is just too misleading. btw, for The Legend of Qin, do you mean after the Warring states era? and ye, I'm pretty familiar with the atrocities that zheng committed, including burning books and burying scholars It's not really any different then the Chinese making wuxia series, that use specific historical settings, and even characters some times. The anime covers alittle bit of what made the Qin strong, but It's very much back story, so is probally very easy to miss in the manga. There's a bunch of strategy going on, as well as policies, and lobbying going on, but the latter two is handled in a subtle way. No It's way after the Warring states era in general(like I said, after the Three Kingdoms era even). At the point The Legend of Qin takes place, Qin is all of China, but there's still a lot of remnants of fallen kingdoms, and such whom have went into hiding. |
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Oct 1, 2016 7:29 AM
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Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. I get that Kingdom is a war Manga, but the fact that the author tried to make it at the same time historical isn't really necessary, even misleading. He made the Qin army seem extremely strong, but he failed to explain why the Qin is so strong. He also missed out the whole strategy and policies part, and the most famous element of the Warring states era - the lobbyists. Again, I am fully aware that this is a war story, but the way he depicts the story is just too misleading. btw, for The Legend of Qin, do you mean after the Warring states era? and ye, I'm pretty familiar with the atrocities that zheng committed, including burning books and burying scholars It's not really any different then the Chinese making wuxia series, that use specific historical settings, and even characters some times. The anime covers alittle bit of what made the Qin strong, but It's very much back story, so is probally very easy to miss in the manga. There's a bunch of strategy going on, as well as policies, and lobbying going on, but the latter two is handled in a subtle way. No It's way after the Warring states era in general(like I said, after the Three Kingdoms era even). At the point The Legend of Qin takes place, Qin is all of China, but there's still a lot of remnants of fallen kingdoms, and such whom have went into hiding. Well wtv.. at least I'm enjoying the war plots hehe. and I've never read any of the wuxia series, so I can't say (I'll read some later on) up till now (around 250 chapters) the only diplomatic strategy I saw was 合縱: the strategy that Ri Boku (actually wasn't him) had come up with. 連橫: counter of 合縱. The policy that made Qin truly preeminent: 商鞅變法, which turned Qin into a state of law for all. And the 遠交近攻 which Qin befriended nations far away, while being hostile towards bordering states. These are all the most well known strategies of Qin (There's a bunch of famous strategies for each nation/lobbyist, but since we're focused on Qin I won't mention them). All those above did not even appear. I just hope that this manga didn't make the readers think that Qin was able to unify China simply because of a few powerful generals. (This is not important, but the mc (Li xin) actually suck, the only time he was the commander was against Chu, which he failed miserably, I wonder why the author chose him as the mc?) The legend of Qin talks about Zheng right? Then how come it's set after the Three Kingdoms era? Aren't those settings like hundred of years apart? |
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Oct 1, 2016 8:30 AM
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alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. I get that Kingdom is a war Manga, but the fact that the author tried to make it at the same time historical isn't really necessary, even misleading. He made the Qin army seem extremely strong, but he failed to explain why the Qin is so strong. He also missed out the whole strategy and policies part, and the most famous element of the Warring states era - the lobbyists. Again, I am fully aware that this is a war story, but the way he depicts the story is just too misleading. btw, for The Legend of Qin, do you mean after the Warring states era? and ye, I'm pretty familiar with the atrocities that zheng committed, including burning books and burying scholars It's not really any different then the Chinese making wuxia series, that use specific historical settings, and even characters some times. The anime covers alittle bit of what made the Qin strong, but It's very much back story, so is probally very easy to miss in the manga. There's a bunch of strategy going on, as well as policies, and lobbying going on, but the latter two is handled in a subtle way. No It's way after the Warring states era in general(like I said, after the Three Kingdoms era even). At the point The Legend of Qin takes place, Qin is all of China, but there's still a lot of remnants of fallen kingdoms, and such whom have went into hiding. Well wtv.. at least I'm enjoying the war plots hehe. and I've never read any of the wuxia series, so I can't say (I'll read some later on) up till now (around 250 chapters) the only diplomatic strategy I saw was 合縱: the strategy that Ri Boku (actually wasn't him) had come up with. 連橫: counter of 合縱. The policy that made Qin truly preeminent: 商鞅變法, which turned Qin into a state of law for all. And the 遠交近攻 which Qin befriended nations far away, while being hostile towards bordering states. These are all the most well known strategies of Qin (There's a bunch of famous strategies for each nation/lobbyist, but since we're focused on Qin I won't mention them). All those above did not even appear. I just hope that this manga didn't make the readers think that Qin was able to unify China simply because of a few powerful generals. (This is not important, but the mc (Li xin) actually suck, the only time he was the commander was against Chu, which he failed miserably, I wonder why the author chose him as the mc?) The legend of Qin talks about Zheng right? Then how come it's set after the Three Kingdoms era? Aren't those settings like hundred of years apart? Sigh sadly wuxia novels are never translated, so unless you can read Chinese, that's not a viable option. On the upside, most live action wuxia series do get official subs, and the few animes wuxia series, have been getting fansubs for the most part. Um, why would they cover such, the story at hand, clearly takes place long after the reform in question, and it really doesn't have any baring to any of the stories going on. The anime, and manga do sort of cover the making alleys far away bit, though, it just doesn't spend much time focusing on such. No I doubt it has, infact I've been hearing statements from many people, that they know there's other stuff going on, that it wasn't about just having a few very strong generals, ect. Yea, but I just thought of something, just double checked some other characters as well. It does seem to still be the warring states era(well at very least some of the other characters were alive at the same time, Zheng would have been) History calls Zheng the first emperor of China, but China wasn't fully unified yet, so It's hard to pinpoint the date, all I know is in this Zheng is acting like he owns all of China, and there has been no mention of actual wars going on. It could be just a artistic decision to focus on um "rebel" factions or what not, instead of the wars, which inturn feels like It's taking place much later in Chinese history. Edit: Cross ref multiple characters that are former royalty of various Kingdoms, would put the Legend of Qin at around 230 BC. |
ZoltorOct 1, 2016 8:42 AM
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Oct 1, 2016 9:02 AM
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Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Zoltor said: alostsoul said: Soichirou said: Saiungoku Monogatari and Kingdom are pretty good. Zoltor said: alostsoul said: I really like ancient Chinese architectures. Whether it be a palace or urban cities. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance! The Legend of Condor Hero Kingdom The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon The Twelve Kingdoms Saiunkoku Monogatari Moribito Guardian of the Spirit Hero Tales Guys I'm at chapter 273 of Kingdom, up till now I think Kingdom is awful, despite the plot being pretty good, it's completely missing the essence of the Warring States era. The author made the manga pretty historical, but at the same time it completely misses and fails to explain the reason of Qin eventually conquering the whole of China. Well Kingdom is clearly not just from the perspective of Qin, but the Xin/Qiang chancters were raised up, so to focus a story around, and to tell the story of war life, without needing to jump around between characters, like the Romance of the Three Kingdoms has to(plus this is emen more focus on the war side of things). Zheng is more relegated to a support character, and is extreamly idealized in this, where in actuality, he was the most paranoid, tyrannical ruler in history. However like I said, this story Isn't about him or the kingdom of Qin its self, It's about a boy living the life of a warrior, trying to rise up in the ranks, and such. Also while I know the manga gets so much praise, and all, when it comes to something like this, you really get so much more out of the anime, then a manga could give, so I strongly suggest you check it out(note: make sure to watch the sub, the sub is godly, easily the best VA job the Japanese has ever done, while the dub is also pretty bad in this case. I wich Viz Ocean did the dub, instead of Funimation) PS. The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon takes place right after the Three Kingdoms era, and paints a more accurate picture of what a true evil asshole Zheng really was, which makes for a great contrast between the two anime(although The Legend of Qin/Qin's Moon does have a slight fantasy/scifi element) if you want. I get that Kingdom is a war Manga, but the fact that the author tried to make it at the same time historical isn't really necessary, even misleading. He made the Qin army seem extremely strong, but he failed to explain why the Qin is so strong. He also missed out the whole strategy and policies part, and the most famous element of the Warring states era - the lobbyists. Again, I am fully aware that this is a war story, but the way he depicts the story is just too misleading. btw, for The Legend of Qin, do you mean after the Warring states era? and ye, I'm pretty familiar with the atrocities that zheng committed, including burning books and burying scholars It's not really any different then the Chinese making wuxia series, that use specific historical settings, and even characters some times. The anime covers alittle bit of what made the Qin strong, but It's very much back story, so is probally very easy to miss in the manga. There's a bunch of strategy going on, as well as policies, and lobbying going on, but the latter two is handled in a subtle way. No It's way after the Warring states era in general(like I said, after the Three Kingdoms era even). At the point The Legend of Qin takes place, Qin is all of China, but there's still a lot of remnants of fallen kingdoms, and such whom have went into hiding. Well wtv.. at least I'm enjoying the war plots hehe. and I've never read any of the wuxia series, so I can't say (I'll read some later on) up till now (around 250 chapters) the only diplomatic strategy I saw was 合縱: the strategy that Ri Boku (actually wasn't him) had come up with. 連橫: counter of 合縱. The policy that made Qin truly preeminent: 商鞅變法, which turned Qin into a state of law for all. And the 遠交近攻 which Qin befriended nations far away, while being hostile towards bordering states. These are all the most well known strategies of Qin (There's a bunch of famous strategies for each nation/lobbyist, but since we're focused on Qin I won't mention them). All those above did not even appear. I just hope that this manga didn't make the readers think that Qin was able to unify China simply because of a few powerful generals. (This is not important, but the mc (Li xin) actually suck, the only time he was the commander was against Chu, which he failed miserably, I wonder why the author chose him as the mc?) The legend of Qin talks about Zheng right? Then how come it's set after the Three Kingdoms era? Aren't those settings like hundred of years apart? Sigh sadly wuxia novels are never translated, so unless you can read Chinese, that's not a viable option. On the upside, most live action wuxia series do get official subs, and the few animes wuxia series, have been getting fansubs for the most part. Um, why would they cover such, the story at hand, clearly takes place long after the reform in question, and it really doesn't have any baring to any of the stories going on. The anime, and manga do sort of cover the making alleys far away bit, though, it just doesn't spend much time focusing on such. No I doubt it has, infact I've been hearing statements from many people, that they know there's other stuff going on, that it wasn't about just having a few very strong generals, ect. Yea, but I just thought of something, just double checked some other characters as well. It does seem to still be the warring states era(well at very least some of the other characters were alive at the same time, Zheng would have been) History calls Zheng the first emperor of China, but China wasn't fully unified yet, so It's hard to pinpoint the date, all I know is in this Zheng is acting like he owns all of China, and there has been no mention of actual wars going on. It could be just a artistic decision to focus on um "rebel" factions or what not, instead of the wars, which inturn feels like It's taking place much later in Chinese history. Ye, the reform (and 遠交近攻) was earlier on, but it laid the foundation for Qin to become such a powerful state. I was hoping that he would talk about them, but if as you said the readers understand it already then I guess there's not much of a problem. I'm not sure if the manga will eventually talk about 連橫. |
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Oct 1, 2016 9:29 AM
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@alostsoul Yea despite the fact the majority of anime/manga fans typically don't know anything that Isn't Japanese centric, nor do they care to know, it seems that most of the people into the Kingdom Manga are into+know of Chinese history, so yea that doesn't seem to be a problem. |
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Oct 1, 2016 9:43 AM
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Oct 1, 2016 9:55 AM
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malonur said: Zoltor said: @alostsoul Yea despite the fact the majority of anime/manga fans typically don't know anything that Isn't Japanese centric, nor do they care to know, it seems that most of the people into the Kingdom Manga are into+know of Chinese history, so yea that doesn't seem to be a problem. Wow that's some serious generilization. No that's a sad fact. The anime/manga fanbase is packed with so many people, that are as Japanese centric, as the Japanese them selves are. They don't tend to know about anything else going on in other oriental countries, despite keeping such a close eye on Japan. and... It's been getting even worse, I've seen people asking for recommendations that have made a point of saying, they don't want a anime/manga that has a setting outside of Japan. A week ago, I was talking to the first anime/manga fan I have ever found, whom is into the Live action wuxia series, and old martial arts movies. It's really super rare sigh. Anime/manga fans overall are brain dead when it comes to history, and literature in general(and they couldn't care less about such), that Isn't Japanese sigh, It's very sad. |
ZoltorOct 1, 2016 10:03 AM
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Oct 1, 2016 10:07 AM
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malonur said: Zoltor said: malonur said: Zoltor said: @alostsoul Yea despite the fact the majority of anime/manga fans typically don't know anything that Isn't Japanese centric, nor do they care to know, it seems that most of the people into the Kingdom Manga are into+know of Chinese history, so yea that doesn't seem to be a problem. Wow that's some serious generilization. No that's a sad fact. The anime/manga fanbase is packed with so many people, that are as Japanese centric, as the Japanese them selves are. They don't tend to know about anything else going on in other oriental countries, despite keeping such a close eye on Japan. and... It's been getting even worse, I've seen people asking for recommendations that have made a point of saying, they don't want a anime/manga that has a setting outside of Japan. A week ago, I was talking to the first anime/manga fan I have ever found, whom is into the Live action wuxia series, and old martial arts movies. It's really super rare sigh. I think yo uare confusing weeabos with casual anime fans. I doubt most aniem fans know about teh current politics or the major political events fo Jaoan for that matter. Perhaps so, that's a possibility. |
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Oct 1, 2016 6:03 PM
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I'm not sure which arc im on, I'm at the point where Qin was invaded by the coalition army of 5 states. |
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Oct 2, 2016 7:10 AM
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Have you watched any of Thunderbolt Fantasy, the show that teams Gen Uroboshi with a famous group of puppeteers in Taiwan? It's based on wuxia with elaborate costuming and some remarkable sets. It streams on Crunchyroll. Watch episode one first, then go back and watch the first half of episode zero where they portray the remarkable work by the Taiwanese puppeteers. |
SeijiSenseiOct 2, 2016 7:24 AM
Oct 5, 2016 6:20 PM
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SeijiSensei said: Have you watched any of Thunderbolt Fantasy, the show that teams Gen Uroboshi with a famous group of puppeteers in Taiwan? It's based on wuxia with elaborate costuming and some remarkable sets. It streams on Crunchyroll. Watch episode one first, then go back and watch the first half of episode zero where they portray the remarkable work by the Taiwanese puppeteers. Ahh, I know that puppeteer show. It's real puppets in the shows right? Is it good? From what I've seen it's dubbed in Taiwanese? |
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Oct 6, 2016 8:15 AM
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No, Uroboshi's script is in, not surprisingly, Japanese and spoken by Japanese voice actors. But why spend time speculating when you can go watch an episode or two on Crunchyroll and make up your own mind? |
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