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RinFTW said: Freiszcze said: Woah, let's top right there for a moment. Brutal, violent=/=dark. For example - Se7en - not that brutal, mediocre violence - super fucking dark movie. The Dark City - normal violence as fighting, shooting, stuff like that - of of the darkest movies I had seen. Attack on Titan - bruta and violent, dark? Not really. There is no thick connecting line between those two. They coexist but they are not identical. Last episode wasn't super dark - it was violent, to the point of being obscure. The problem is that MC restart power is seizing the anime from the "darkness". Any character besides MC isn't suffering the restart thing, and he's so cool with shrugging it off. I don't like that sort of development. Betelgeuse is sort of villains I don't like either. "Look at me, I'M MAD, LOOK AT ME, I'M SO INSANE, HEHE". Well, cool man, what should I care, if I can't connect to his madness, which so far (we'll see it in the future) seems to just (bear with my lame joke) sprung out from the earth. Joker was insane, but we could connect with his plan, with his ideology. Hannibal was insane, yet we dwelled into his character right from the beginning. And Betelgeuse so far seems to be crazy for the sake of being crazy. I'm impatiently waiting for his return, and some sort of development. Overall - episode by technical aspect was brilliant. But as for the storytelling - seems pretty shallow for me. Not gonna call it egdy, since it's not like Brynhild ot this sort of shit, but I don't see any darkness to overwhelm me so far. BTW - it's funny to see how easily people are to be bought. Slap some blood, add more, add insane (for no reason at all) character, two MC deaths, force mvp girl of the show to crawl towards the MC to confess, and at the end decorate it with movie-alike credit roll - there you go, recipe for AOTY and best episode of the show. Aren't we suppose to be a little more demanding? 3/5 from me, which means it's not bad, bad it wasn't so astonishing. BTW - amount of 5/5 doesn't make a point for an argument. Billions of flies are eating shit - should we follow their example? Yeah i'll be amazed if you can connect with a villain that was shown for maybe.... 5 min? you don't like the type of villain Betelgeuse but you like the joker? comparing beatlewtf to a villain like the joker already making your whole point invalid... joker has a long history and well known over the years, of course we would know his ideology because he wasn't only introduced in less than half an episode. i honestly don't know if the priest going to turn into a good or bad villain even if he doesn't... at least know that he will not be the endgame villain. Also the "too much 5/5" (that only you who brought it up) and billions of flies shit was totally unnecessary, it just show a hipster trying to look intelligent by disrespecting the majority. its fine if you don't like the episode and its fine if you can't make a valid argument but do us a favor and try not to make revolting analogies. My thoughts exactly. |
astralkill00 said: indraluc said: in ep 8, beatrice say. the witch devour all other six witches who bore the names of deadly sin. and now we know subaru is pride. and he will devour other sins and became jealous witch hahaha So that's why Subaru have those red eyes, wait for a sec, eating them would be delicious? -_- ie ie ie, i means devour their powers. |
| I watched this shit was probably a mistake to begin with, as I expected lighthearted fantasy romance (with a few bearable sad moments) at first, following Grimgars train which hooked my heart amazingly, shit then shattered my heart brutally. Im done with anime for a few days, good job White Fox. Eps 15: 88/100 |
Freiszcze said: Well, the analogy was meant to be joke, because it's a really old joke. Don't about you, but I actually read most of the comments, and people did mentioned at least few times that "woah, see how many people rated 5/5, people whining are in minority". You want human orientated analogy? Go to music industry, you'll find an answer. Still, forging this into argument is invalid. Let me state it right from the beginning - I ENJOY THIS SHOW. I really do. It's a strong position, probably among top10 of this year anime so far, but AOTY? No way, at least not for me. So far Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu steals the spot and it doesn't seem to give it away. What I did, was responding to some things I saw in the thread, about darkness of the series, about amazing villain, how amazing the episode was. As for Betelgeuse - as I said before - I don't like him, and I will keep it that way till we see some more of him. I didn't discard him at all, just I don't like the way he was presented (thou performance was absolutely brilliant, way to go Mastuoka). But as I sad before - he doesn't struck me in any way which would made me interested in him. In "The Silence of the Lambs", the first encounter with Hannibal left me speechless (and it was in about first five minutes), because how the insanity of the character was presented. Here we got some blabbing, repeating words, tilting and bizarre faces. I can't help that this made me laugh instead of making me interested. I'm really sorry if all you can response is irrelevant insulting. Me, hipster? Because I didn't enjoy what you did? Oh come on, you can to better than this. And by the way - I am not hipster, quick run though my MAL should be enough to see that. More than your statements about Betelgeuse, that are completly understandable, cause obviously is not everyone that's gonna "like" him and you even made some good points, it's more statments like: "The problem is that MC restart power is seizing the anime from the "darkness". Any character besides MC isn't suffering the restart thing, and he's so cool with shrugging it off. I don't like that sort of development." or "it's funny to see how easily people are to be bought. Slap some blood, add more, add insane (for no reason at all) character, two MC deaths, force mvp girl of the show to crawl towards the MC to confess, and at the end decorate it with movie-alike credit roll - there you go, recipe for AOTY and best episode of the show." that make your comment sound kinda stupid... why, you ask?(even if you don't xD) well, because the first one, even though is just an opinion when you say you don't like that sort of development, you have been kinda blind to these last few episodes if you can say that "he's so cool with shrugging it off". The second statment I don't get it at all. You just wrote some of the stuff that happened in this episode and said it was a recipe for AOTY ironically. Bet not even you understand what you were trying to say there... |
| What an insane episode! now I'm really hyped! Somehow I can't but to think that even 10 more episode aren't enough to reach the ending, we don't know many things and got to know that there are representatives characters of the seven deadly sins... we know only one know (not sure if Subaru is really Pride). In short I just hope we don't have an in-explicit ending which leaves us with many question marks. Subaru got serious, I'm really looking forward to see how he'll pull this off, he has like a couple of days to save everyone so I highly doubt he can get suddenly strong in this interval. |
Veldin461 said: "it's funny to see how easily people are to be bought. Slap some blood, add more, add insane (for no reason at all) character, two MC deaths, force mvp girl of the show to crawl towards the MC to confess, and at the end decorate it with movie-alike credit roll - there you go, recipe for AOTY and best episode of the show." that make your comment sound kinda stupid... why, you ask?(even if you don't xD) well, because the first one, even though is just an opinion when you say you don't like that sort of development, you have been kinda blind to these last few episodes if you can say that "he's so cool with shrugging it off". The second statment I don't get it at all. You just wrote some of the stuff that happened in this episode and said it was a recipe for AOTY ironically. Bet not even you understand what you were trying to say there... Really? I thought it was obvious irony. Well, my thoughts on this one were about how this episode was decent but nothing more, and yet people tell that's so amazing and stuff. What I meant is something called "WOW FACTORY". It's when you are at first impression of something, like this episode which was no short of action, tension, and then you immediately post your opinion without second thought, that maybe there is something lacking, stuff like this. That's why I pointed that out. Just look - was this episode really "AOTY defining" for that show? |
| I have never seen anything deeper than this, holy shit! |
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| "Your insanity is too sane." God, I love this quote. |
| "There’s no point in the world. But isn’t that wonderful? Because if there isn’t one, then you can decide what it is for yourself." ~ Filicia Heideman, Sora no Woto "Senpai...please grow up." ~ Fumi Manjoume, Aoi Hana "I wonder what tomorrow will bring." ~ Yunocchi, Hidamari Sketch: Sae and Hiro's Graduation Arc |
| So can anyone majoring in psychology explain Conti's logic? Was Subaru actually insane or was he really faking it up in his own way for attention and sympathy? Cause I'm finding it hard to believe that insanely horrific, tragedy-based shock therapy actually helps to cure a broken, insane person of their insanity (otherwise there'd be no insane people on Earth, we'd just have to make movies of loved ones dying and replay them to crazy people to cure them all). |
HESTIA   APPROVES |
| Betelgeuse looks and acts like a retarded Akame ga Kill villain (he made me cringe a lot). The rest of the episode was great though, it definitely makes up for a lot of the problems I had with the show as of recent. |
KenbuJul 12, 2016 9:10 AM
Kaiyube said: Amazingggggggggggg episode. If Rem x Subaru doesn't pan out by the end I'm going to rage though! Emilia is a terrible character, Rem - best girl 2016. It most likely will not happen. Subaru's sole existence in that fantasy universe is to serve Emilia with his powers, from what we've seen so far at least (I don't know for a fact if that's indeed the case). All the openings and major plot points so far lead to this conclusion. Therefore it is highly unlikely that there will be any room for romance with Rem or any other girl for that matter, besides Emilia herself. |
Freiszcze said: essay do you think dark story needs to make your screen black? if so, just watch on chinese streaming site, they censored it DARK! also, majority = all. |
| 期待しているよ、私のサリアだって、嘘ばっかり! でもねアンジュ、あんたがいなくなれば、私の方が強いってわかれば, それができるなら、何もいらない! |
al-birny said: Freiszcze said: essay do you think dark story needs to make your screen black? if so, just watch on chinese streaming site, they censored it DARK! also, majority = all. Then Justin Bieber is one of the most brilliant musicians in the world. First statement I'll leave without any answer, I can't answer something that doesn't regard any of my arguments. |
iRels said: Freiszcze said: Really? I thought it was obvious irony. Well, my thoughts on this one were about how this episode was decent but nothing more, and yet people tell that's so amazing and stuff. What I meant is something called "WOW FACTORY". It's when you are at first impression of something, like this episode which was no short of action, tension, and then you immediately post your opinion without second thought, that maybe there is something lacking, stuff like this. That's why I pointed that out. Just look - was this episode really "AOTY defining" for that show? 'for no reason at all'. There were reasons. Everything that happened was for a reason. The problem with people like you is that you adopt a mindset that believes otherwise. You then don't allow yourself to experience it fully... as you keep distrusting what you see. Subaru feels guilty for letting people he cares for get hurt. And it'll always matter, no matter the resets. As like I said, it'll keep happening. Until he solves the issue. But then, another will appear... Their suffering keeps being relevant, until the end. And someone like Subaru cares more for it, due to how prideful he is. He feels dissatisfied with himself, being incapable of achieving success. Was there any explanation for insane Betelgeuse? Because I was speaking about him. I get why Subaru was acting as an insane person. |
MyPen said: Dead_By_Heart said: Man my heart beat waaaaay high when i saw the episode was out today!! xD The hype is real!!! And this is one Creepy fucking, xD hooooooly father satan save me! Diffidently got a screw lose.. Fucking loco!!Seriously this episode was nuts crazy epic! theres no word for this episode! Also was that a very mean giant Puck?!.. Man the feels tho... ;_; seriously made my cry real bad seeing Rem crawl to Subaru.. Fucking feel over 9000, Am i the only thinking Anime of the Year!!! Yeah it was puck Been coincidentally saw you marathoned the show from 1st episode discussion till now. Wow gud job, here some troph🏆 Btw that abomination is ur beloved kirito who stuck into this world and metamorph into sloth and change his name to Betelguese after suffered from the vacancy of Asuna. 😈 Yay a troph🏆 ^^ didnt believe i could manage to squeeze it in between my work hours xD yeah think kirito got stuck somehow n lost his way of life i got his life twisted upside down xD |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
terminador_2397 said: Dead_By_Heart said: Man my heart beat waaaaay high when i saw the episode was out today!! xD The hype is real!!! And this is one Creepy fucking, xD hooooooly father satan save me! Diffidently got a screw lose.. Fucking loco!!Seriously this episode was nuts crazy epic! theres no word for this episode! Also was that a very mean giant Puck?!.. Man the feels tho... ;_; seriously made my cry real bad seeing Rem crawl to Subaru.. Fucking feel over 9000, Am i the only thinking Anime of the Year!!! Now you can suffer with us for the wait of the next episode :) Theeeee PAIN of waiting !!!! ;_; xD |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
iRels said: Freiszcze said: Was there any explanation for insane Betelgeuse? Because I was speaking about him. I get why Subaru was acting as an insane person. There's him, and Caster. Reason for their insanity is trauma. Like I explained to someone else, they overact as a way to avoid thinking about painful memories. We haven't been shown his backstory yet... But I can understand enough to believe. He's someone that fell into despair, after losing things that were precious to him. Someone taking enjoyment in another's suffering, is usually trying to compensate for their own. That's what humans do. And he appeared to be one. Caster wasn't sadistic, though, from what I remember... And we're back to my first post - I'm waiting for his further development. As for Caster, when I watched Fate/Zero, I knew about Gilles de Reis history, and also we all know how the summoning by Grail worked - Gilles was summoned as the Servant close to his character. That's why during watching Fate/Zero I knew about his background - doesn't change that I didn't liked his character at all. I think I prefer him as a Saber class. |
xEzioAuditore said: Kaiyube said: Amazingggggggggggg episode. If Rem x Subaru doesn't pan out by the end I'm going to rage though! Emilia is a terrible character, Rem - best girl 2016. From the 2nd arc I began to support Rem x Subaru. Emilia turned out to be a terrible girl as you said when she abandoned Subaru. Abandoned Subaru? You mean by making sure he was well cared for in the capital even after that outburst of his? |
leNerd said: On the other hand, the longing for the next episode each week and watching it simultaneously with a lot of other people is a unique experience itself :P Im personally able to enjoy it like this even more, the waiting really is a pain though That's true. Especially since the hype train for this anime is now at full steam - like you pointed out, it's caused unprecedented amount of discussion here at MAL. It feels good to talk about something awesome you just read/watched with anyone else, so I suppose this is an extension of that, times 100. There's a whole lot of validation (and some disagreement, hooray for endless internet arguments). |
Freiszcze said: Veldin461 said: "it's funny to see how easily people are to be bought. Slap some blood, add more, add insane (for no reason at all) character, two MC deaths, force mvp girl of the show to crawl towards the MC to confess, and at the end decorate it with movie-alike credit roll - there you go, recipe for AOTY and best episode of the show." that make your comment sound kinda stupid... why, you ask?(even if you don't xD) well, because the first one, even though is just an opinion when you say you don't like that sort of development, you have been kinda blind to these last few episodes if you can say that "he's so cool with shrugging it off". The second statment I don't get it at all. You just wrote some of the stuff that happened in this episode and said it was a recipe for AOTY ironically. Bet not even you understand what you were trying to say there... Really? I thought it was obvious irony. Well, my thoughts on this one were about how this episode was decent but nothing more, and yet people tell that's so amazing and stuff. What I meant is something called "WOW FACTORY". It's when you are at first impression of something, like this episode which was no short of action, tension, and then you immediately post your opinion without second thought, that maybe there is something lacking, stuff like this. That's why I pointed that out. Just look - was this episode really "AOTY defining" for that show? I know it was irony, I just don't understand where and how does that irony help your statement at all and you probably don't know too, just that xD If this episode was really "AOTY defining"... for me, this series is a AOTY contender really hard to beat, the best until now at least, but it's not just this episode that makes it for me, the whole series does, but that doesn't mean this epsiode was not masterful. However that's my opinion, and if people say this episode by itself makes the series AOTY it's their opinion. For you it's not, okay, but don't need to be a d*ck about it while negating other's opinions with more opinions. Look... you even say "aren't we supposed to be a little more demanding?", but if I go see your favourite anime list, some of them I found to be meh, not anything special, and, likewhise if you go see mine you probably will think the same thing (or not, who knows). Point is, people being demanding goes accordingly with their tastes that may or may not be like yours in certain cases |
Veldin461Jul 12, 2016 11:07 AM
| I usually wait to watch all the superior animes of a season in one go. I watched Re:zero by mistake, assuming it was only 13 eps. I'm so glad by this mistake. But again, you dont get an anime this intense every year... |
| Delays are temporary. Mediocracy lasts forever. |
| Speechless. ..... |
hadakanohadaka said: To all emilia shippers, she redeems herself in Arc 4 but since this anime adapts until Arc 3, Rem is best girl. there is still 9 ep, so arc 3 that long ? and how many arc in LN out till now??? |
| What a goddamn boring death... He gets frozen by an attack that wasn't even aimed at him? And don't get me wrong but somehow the only scene that really touched me there was Ram holding the kid who lost her eyes (probably taken out by the attackers I guess). The others were just really like "w/e Subaru is gonna die anyway" OHHHH But I just realized. We don't have to deal with that shit situation in the gathering again! I wouldn't have been able to watch that again no matter what he changed about it. Damn those happenings. And of course who else would give his voice to the insanely maniac lunatic(don't understand how someone can be so good with sounding crazy and still being able to voice rational characters as well). This seriously looks like a dead end to me. There is no way this will continue without an ass-pull(and that would be kinda sad considering the previous course this has taken). I simply don't see a way. Why would Subaru stop being broken just like that? I can understand why he is like that but that's not really the point. The problem is that you don't just snip your fingers to "cure" a broken mind. This won't change no matter how many times he kills himself/dies. That end though. I guess I got my answer. It's an ass-pull. Obviously just seeing Rem die instead of just finding her corpse makes him so angry that he is driven by rage instead of being a useless piece of shit that basically had to be fed for the rest of his life. Can't say I liked this episode. It just felt like the author tried too hard. The amount of dead people didn't deliver anything. With Subaru's reset they become meaningless. The only important thing was the introduction of the witch cult and one of the higher-ups of it. On top of it I doubt we'll get any character development for Emilia any time soon. First they have to solve the problem that the mansion is attacked when Subaru and Rem aren't even close to it. Then Subaru has to take revenge. And then maybe we can finally resolve anything because sadly I don't see Subaru stop following Emilia. |
| Can someone explain me what kind of spirit is Puck? was is said in LN....i think that in manga it was said that he is great fire spirit...so why is he manifesting as ice kind? he is instead of highering temperature lowering it or something?? |
| [center]If you aren't troubling the rest of the world, then there's no harm in being abnormal. |
| I was getting pretty annoyed by this anime trying to understand Subaru's selfish and rushed actions. There was a point where I wanted this to take the "let's die countless times and try again until everyone is happy thanks to some deus ex machina" because he was really messed up. This episode was a good redemption, looks like he's finally grounded his mind (hopefully). |
| So much gore it became ridiculous. Pacing became really wonky as well. After Subaru making a complete ass out of him with the duel it jumped into this way too fast to actually feel the stakes. It was sad to loose sisters since they were cute maids but it's basically that. The whole tragedy jumped out of nowhere without any buildup which made it look like relying entirely on shock value of the events. What happened to Roswal who was supposed to be strong or library demon which seemed to rule over space in the castle? Why the bad guy is so boringly mad? They made Subaru so unlikable in previous episodes it's hard to feel sorry for him. Why should I care about anything other than cute maids? Brutality and death are not enough to carry a show for long. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
Keltrick said: Thank goodness there's someone else who understands how absolutely horrible this episode was. This episode didn't so anything for me that it couldn't have been done if rem had just simply been paralyzed by some way and Beetlejuice just stomped on her fingers, pulled her hair out and knock out a few of her teeth. I mean, they can do as they wish, it didn't make the episode harder to watch for me and episodes 10-12 of Grisia no whatever were more off putting if anything. This episodes does make me feel like the gore feeling a bit cheap. Rather than just the icing on the cake, which is loss, pain, and suffering of the characters involved as well as dictating the extent of of how the featured villain is merciless. I feel as if the as if the baker to this cake believed more icing = better. Rather than wisely using the gore as a tool to carry this out he carelessly oversaturated a very simple to understand idea. I'm reminded of infodumping or anime's newfound reliance of inner monologues which presume the story or characters are so complex there is no way to express them through their actions without specific words and thoughts. I'm digressing a bit but I think some get where I'm going it. Comfortably with evil or torturous acts don't have to be portrayed with an overly joyous smile or maniacal laughter, a simple causality or sign of indifference can suffice in some situations. Someone had mentrioned Lord Frollo from the hunchback. In the Disney version he was easily a terrifying person despite not being to strong thanks to his deeds and demeanor. The thing that was really off putting that I think a lot try and fail at was how righteous he felt about all of his actions and somehow even with that manager to push away his own desires that would make him appear to himself as immoral. |
QWERTYFish25Jul 12, 2016 2:22 PM
| Holy shit! As if Rem's suffering weren't enough, the ending was completely brutal. The antagonist was batshit insane. At least thanks to him Subaru got his shit together. For a few brief moments... |
Salathiel said: Can someone explain me what kind of spirit is Puck? was is said in LN....i think that in manga it was said that he is great fire spirit...so why is he manifesting as ice kind? he is instead of highering temperature lowering it or something?? puck can control temperature and he even did shamac which is shadow magic ,even tho he is main fire there is no telling how much he can do since he is really powerful spirit |
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