| I think you need to define exactly what you mean by quality before this conversation can even get started. |
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| Popularity? obviously not Rank? Could be Favorites? not bad Out of those three options i choose Rank. If you do some formula to calculate all these three factors, then its more accurate and this doesn't tell which show is better, ranking imo simply tells that if its ranked higher then more people liked it which translate to; you have higher chance of liking it |
| Based on having seen almost all the top 100 shows I'd have to pick Rank/Score. Most shows in the top 100 are at least decent, lots of them are great. Can't really say the same about the most popular list. |
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| Popularity: Says how many people know about it, which doesn't have any indication of quality. Rank: Shows what the average person rated it, but because of viewer bias this isn't super accurate as certain anime will attract crowds with different rating systems (ie. lesser known anime are often rated by users who rate anime lower than the average user). Favorites: This show how many people liked the anime enough to put it on their favourites list. All users are allowed 10 favourites and since the favourites of an elitist who gives their favourites 8s and a casual fan who has rated half the anime in their list 10s are weighted the same in this system it could be seen as a good system. However, this just counts the total amount of favourites without taking member count into consideration so Highschool DxD is ranked higher in this list than LoGH simply because there are more people who have seen it even though a lower percentage of them have it in their favourites. Answer: None of them, honestly. If we had a weighted favourites ranking it could be a very useful list to determine quality, but currently all three are quite flawed. Popularity is the most useless to determine quality, though. |
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| well, let's test it out. i'll do the top 10 of each & see which list i agree with more. Rank 1) Gintama - sucks 2) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) Gintama - sucks 5) Hunter x Hunter - sucks 6) Gintama - sucks 7) Gintama - sucks 8) Legends of Galatic Heroes - sucks 9) Clannad After Story - sucks 10) Gintama - sucks Favorites 1) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 2) Death Note - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) One Piece - sucks 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 7) Sword art Online - sucks 8) Clannad After Story - sucks 9) Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan - sucks 10) Hunter x Hunter - sucks Popular 1) Death Note - good show 2) Sword art Online - sucks 3) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 4) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Angel Beats - sucks 7) Naruto - sucks 8) Steins Gate - good show 9) Mirai Nikki - good show 10) Bleach - sucks -Top Rank: only liked 2/10 -Most Favored: liked 5/10 -Most Popular: liked 6/10... so top ranked anime tend to suck & the most popular anime tend to be good. |
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| None of them are overly useful.A simple number on a list tells you next to nothing. Well, nothing important. dragonofmars said: well, let's test it out. i'll do the top 10 of each & see which list i agree with more. Rank 1) Gintama - sucks 2) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) Gintama - sucks 5) Hunter x Hunter - sucks 6) Gintama - sucks 7) Gintama - sucks 8) Legends of Galatic Heroes - sucks 9) Clannad After Story - sucks 10) Gintama - sucks Favorites 1) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 2) Death Note - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) One Piece - sucks 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 7) Sword art Online - sucks 8) Clannad After Story - sucks 9) Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan - sucks 10) Hunter x Hunter - sucks Popular 1) Death Note - good show 2) Sword art Online - sucks 3) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 4) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Angel Beats - sucks 7) Naruto - sucks 8) Steins Gate - good show 9) Mirai Nikki - good show 10) Bleach - sucks -Top Rank: only liked 2/10 -Most Favored: liked 5/10 -Most Popular: liked 6/10... so top ranked anime tend to suck & the most popular anime tend to be good. Bit of an unfair comparison since Gintama makes up multiple spots. To make it a more fair comparison I'd say you should only count Gintama against the total once. In which case you like 2, dislike 4 out of 6. |
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| Definitely rank. You might disagree with the general opinion regarding MAL scores, but you can't deny it. There's a reason as to why those shows are ranked so high.. |
| alright, I'll condense sequels into a single entry. 1) Gintama - sucks 2) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 5) Hunter x Hunter - sucks 5) Legends of Galatic Heroes - sucks 6) Clannad After Story - sucks 7) Kimi no Wa - no opinion, never seen it so i'll go to 11 8) Code Geass r2 - sucks 9) Haikyuu - no opinion, never seen it so i'll go to 12 10) Spirited Away - good movie 11) Shigatsu wa Kimi no Osu - sucks 12) Mushishi 2 - no opinion 13) One Punch Man - good show i liked 4/10 show's that i've seen, condensing sequels to a single entry |
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| I'll try to explain by some examples On basis of Rank- Anime- Rainbow It is a highly rated series and is a good one. But if you see that how many people have watched it or liked it in one swing there wouldn't be many. That doesn't clarify whether we should watch it or not. On basis of Popularity Anime-Death note It is the most popular show here on MAL and that is not in a least way questionable. I could even say that it is the first anime that most of the people watched and that is because it transcends borders of language. But there would be many who would have not liked the show. On basis of favourites Anime- Stiens;Gate In my opinion favourites might be the most accurate list, as it shows that how many people it attracted towards it. Mass never lies, if people like it then it must have something. But any of these list is not perfect So there is one more way of watching things rather than watching from these lists, first list all the series you liked and see its recommendations then see its given factors and choose from them. Or if you wish to see something new/different you should ask around, the whole basis of social networking is to share, there is always out there who would like the same things as you. So believe in "Trial and Error"😃😃 |
| There's literally no list to determine the quality of anime... I mean, I barely even care about it, I liked 95% of what I've seen... yet people dislike 95% of what I've seen, lol.. Basically, it depends on you, what is the quality of an anime.. which you'll never find out unless you watch it yourself |
| i trust popularity more than mal ratings (a lot of popular anime suck like Opm Erased ...though) but still you should watch it to judge it nothing can make you sure that you will like it |
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Maz said: None of them are overly useful.A simple number on a list tells you next to nothing. Well, nothing important. dragonofmars said: well, let's test it out. i'll do the top 10 of each & see which list i agree with more. Rank 1) Gintama - sucks 2) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) Gintama - sucks 5) Hunter x Hunter - sucks 6) Gintama - sucks 7) Gintama - sucks 8) Legends of Galatic Heroes - sucks 9) Clannad After Story - sucks 10) Gintama - sucks Favorites 1) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 2) Death Note - good show 3) Steins Gate - good show 4) One Piece - sucks 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 7) Sword art Online - sucks 8) Clannad After Story - sucks 9) Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan - sucks 10) Hunter x Hunter - sucks Popular 1) Death Note - good show 2) Sword art Online - sucks 3) Shingeki no Kyojin - good show 4) Fullmetal Alchemist - good show 5) Code Geass - good show 6) Angel Beats - sucks 7) Naruto - sucks 8) Steins Gate - good show 9) Mirai Nikki - good show 10) Bleach - sucks -Top Rank: only liked 2/10 -Most Favored: liked 5/10 -Most Popular: liked 6/10... so top ranked anime tend to suck & the most popular anime tend to be good. Bit of an unfair comparison since Gintama makes up multiple spots. To make it a more fair comparison I'd say you should only count Gintama against the total once. In which case you like 2, dislike 4 out of 6. i wouldn't take his post seriously he hasn't even seen the ones that he said suck/ Favourites hold the most bearing imo, ratings are certainly important as they give you the average thoughts on an anime of all the mal users that have seen that anime but popularity is also very important as it trademarks how people as a whole respond to the idea of the anime in question. imo they are equally important and favourites is what you get if you average the both of them together. |
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Inori_is_love said: Maz said: None of them are overly useful.A simple number on a list tells you next to nothing. Well, nothing important. Bit of an unfair comparison since Gintama makes up multiple spots. To make it a more fair comparison I'd say you should only count Gintama against the total once. In which case you like 2, dislike 4 out of 6. i wouldn't take his post seriously he hasn't even seen the ones that he said suck/ Favourites hold the most bearing imo, ratings are certainly important as they give you the average thoughts on an anime of all the mal users that have seen that anime but popularity is also very important as it trademarks how people as a whole respond to the idea of the anime in question. imo they are equally important and favourites is what you get if you average the both of them together. Inori_is_love said: Maz said: None of them are overly useful.A simple number on a list tells you next to nothing. Well, nothing important. Bit of an unfair comparison since Gintama makes up multiple spots. To make it a more fair comparison I'd say you should only count Gintama against the total once. In which case you like 2, dislike 4 out of 6. i wouldn't take his post seriously he hasn't even seen the ones that he said suck/ Favourites hold the most bearing imo, ratings are certainly important as they give you the average thoughts on an anime of all the mal users that have seen that anime but popularity is also very important as it trademarks how people as a whole respond to the idea of the anime in question. imo they are equally important and favourites is what you get if you average the both of them together. Inori_is_love said: Maz said: None of them are overly useful.A simple number on a list tells you next to nothing. Well, nothing important. Bit of an unfair comparison since Gintama makes up multiple spots. To make it a more fair comparison I'd say you should only count Gintama against the total once. In which case you like 2, dislike 4 out of 6. i wouldn't take his post seriously he hasn't even seen the ones that he said suck/ based on what? i clearly said "no opinion, haven't seen it" for the ones i've never seen as opposed to "sucked" for the ones that simply aren't good. |
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dragonofmars said: Inori_is_love said: i wouldn't take his post seriously he hasn't even seen the ones that he said suck/ Favourites hold the most bearing imo, ratings are certainly important as they give you the average thoughts on an anime of all the mal users that have seen that anime but popularity is also very important as it trademarks how people as a whole respond to the idea of the anime in question. imo they are equally important and favourites is what you get if you average the both of them together. based on what? i clearly said "no opinion, haven't seen it" for the ones i've never seen as opposed to "sucked" for the ones that simply aren't good. I would assume based on your list. Because a fair number of the shows you say sucked either are nowhere on your list. Or the few dropped you have have no episodes marked as watched. |
| Rank. The amount of favourites is affected by popularity anyways; Whilst obviously, the mean score isn't. Even though the rating system is fucked, as everyone seems to use it differently, you can't deny that an anime rated, lets say, 8.5 is at least worth your time. The best determination of quality would probably be percentage of people that favourite the anime (of those who have seen it ofc). |
| nah, i just rarely update that shit, it's more of a chore then it is a benefit. so yes, if i said i disliked it then i've seen it. |
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| None of them. They're prety much closely tied. High rank+preferrable genre = high popularity+tons of favourites. |
| None, but if I had to go with one, score. Lobinde said: Whatever you think, because read my sig. >Reminder that your opinion isn't objective, because I disagree with it. Objective is everything outside one's mind. Once an opinion is pronounced, be it in talked or written form, it becomes something outside of one's mind, and therefore it is objective. Your agreement or disagreement doesn't negates this, and this only applies to the expression used for said opinion, it's representation, not the opinion itself. (ex.- the phrase "anime sucks" is objective because is a phrase that is outside of the mind. It represents the opinion of one individual.) Also, an opinion is subjective by definition, simply because it's part of one's mind (ex.- anime sucks is the opinion of one guy, which resides in his mind). The agreement of it doesn't negates this either. Just took the opportunity to talk about your sig. I know where you're going with it though, so no big deal, really, no one but me is really gonna get bothered by this "the map is not the territory" shit. |
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Lobinde said: Whatever you think, because read my sig. that is a good signature... lol anyway, yea, im wondering ppl are STILL asking for ppls approval on shit |
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| None of them, our opinions couldn't be further from the truth, or actually, what is the "true" quality of anime? You'll be diving into some heavy philosophy if want an answer to that question. To answer your question, probably: Rank > favorite > popularity |
| There's no such ideal list. Everyone would be different, making these kind of topics look stupid. It would be endless loop debating all that. |
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| amount of favorites, i guess rank are made by user that most of them have a different rating system. so, rank is inaccurate popularity: because most of mainstream anime are sucks, lol |
| Of the 3 choices, rank. On MAL, rank is determine by the mean of everyone's score. Favorites is simply users adding it to their favorites and popularity is based on the amount of users who have it on their list. Favorites is heavily based on popularity, more viewers means more people who have it on their favorites, but for ranks, a show with several hundreds thousands members can still be rated low. So at the very least rank can still manage to maintain some order to a degree. Only time this doesn't really work is for continuous sequels. |
Thievery said: None, but if I had to go with one, score. Lobinde said: Whatever you think, because read my sig. >Reminder that your opinion isn't objective, because I disagree with it. Objective is everything outside one's mind. Once an opinion is pronounced, be it in talked or written form, it becomes something outside of one's mind, and therefore it is objective. Your agreement or disagreement doesn't negates this, and this only applies to the expression used for said opinion, it's representation, not the opinion itself. (ex.- the phrase "anime sucks" is objective because is a phrase that is outside of the mind. It represents the opinion of one individual.) Also, an opinion is subjective by definition, simply because it's part of one's mind (ex.- anime sucks is the opinion of one guy, which resides in his mind). The agreement of it doesn't negates this either. Just took the opportunity to talk about your sig. I know where you're going with it though, so no big deal, really, no one but me is really gonna get bothered by this "the map is not the territory" shit. That's actually quite an interesting way of looking at it, when an opinion has been spoken it is something that factually exists, however, I would still assert that it's impossible for it to be factually right or wrong, simply because I can disagree with it. This doesn't negate the opinion, but it demonstrates how the opinion is not something that can be "proven" to be right or wrong, only that it can be proven to exist. You cannot really disagree with something that is objective, like "2 + 2 = 4", but you can disagree with something like "sword art online is great". I am of the belief that at the same time, some opinions can very much hold more weight than others, based on their conviction and justification, which I should probably try and make more clear to people. |
| My list. Because it ranks enjoyment. The most enjoyable anime = best anime. You should watch what you enjoy, regardless of mainstream opinion. |
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