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Jun 26, 2016 8:17 PM
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So subaru made reckless decision again, but I can't hate it and I understand him. He is so fucked up and he is having an extreme anxiety. So he is still recovering from it, but then that things had happen, and he was so desperate. He can't hold back himself.

At first, Emilia is being inferior by the other candidates and royal offcials, for being half elf that and silver hair resembles the witch of envy. So Subaru in that case can't stand it seeing Emilia in tht way, he made a reckless decision and made a fuss then proclaimed himself as the Knight of Emilia

Then Julius stand in the way and told Subaru that proclaiming himself as a Knight of Emilia is a insult to the Knight, with the fuss Subaru made so he was kicked out from the palace. Then, Julius dueled him in a sword fight and this just showed how very inferior Subaru is and he was defeated and passed out.

So Subaru lost the trust of Emilia, cause he can't explain fully himself why he is being so reckless to be in Emilia's side so he could protect her. The dark hand stopping him. Then because of that he became more desperate and said the things that had happened in the first tine they met, the things happened in his loop about saving them in the mansion, but Emilia can't understand it and just realizes she has many debt to Subaru.

So yeah he was left alone in a way he was so fucked up and confused again.
Jun 26, 2016 8:18 PM
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Venator25 said:
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How unempathetic, did you seriously just weaken this down to "lol cuz he didn get laid XDDD"?

Is it really this hard to point this shit out to you people? Subaru clearly is in love with Emilia, and although he did some stupid shit, he did not deserve to be completely cut off from Emilia. They're both wrong in their own ways, they're both bad people in their own ways, and they both don't seem to understand each other.

I honestly think Subaru is better off abandoning Emilia, and just staying with Rem.


No he actually made some pretty good points. Subaru's arrogance and selfishness have been a part of his character from the very beginning. It was only a matter of time before he finally fucked up massively.


Wait, when did I say that I didn't think he fucked up massively? I just also don't believe that he deserved to be dropped like a sack of potatoes by Emilia because she's insecure and insular.

Jun 26, 2016 8:19 PM
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I can't believe how much hate subaru is getting...

All of this damn white knighting going on; heck mangina's why are you defending Emilia! it makes no sense!

Subaru is fighting for his love; people in love can't stand to be apart; he just wants to be more apart of her life. Then when he gets the confidence to make a self-declaration... cause FUCK! he died for her HOW MANY TIMES? He took on how much pain and suffering? Just to be able to hold a candle of light to her!

And then get's slapped down so hard, because he is the only one aware of exactly how much damn suffering and effort that he's put into it! His wanting to be emila's knight is for soley for her; it is to be near her; the dude is in love...
it's not the standard mangina tact of being a cunt's foot stool and worshiping her, it's the, "i want to earn her trust and love."

Gawd, people now adays... so hopeless.

How can no body get this? his POV and instead white knights to defend emilia? WTF!

Such a heart breaking episode... and i really can't wait to see what he does to try and fix this.
Jun 26, 2016 8:25 PM

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I think subaru went ''homura'' status.
Its like going back in time for someone you love over and over makes you an obsessive and misunderstood character.
I mean, homura did it so much for Madoka, like subaru is doin' for emillia.
Jun 26, 2016 8:36 PM
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Some wonderful awesome human being is translating the Web Novel starting from arc 3(Episode 12) if any of you are interested. https://kagurojp.wordpress.com

I'm sure it'll provide some new perspective on Subaru and his reasoning behind what he has done and what he is going through.
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Jun 26, 2016 8:38 PM
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LoliSatan said:
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No he actually made some pretty good points. Subaru's arrogance and selfishness have been a part of his character from the very beginning. It was only a matter of time before he finally fucked up massively.


Wait, when did I say that I didn't think he fucked up massively? I just also don't believe that he deserved to be dropped like a sack of potatoes by Emilia because she's insecure and insular.


You watched the episode right? His actions the last two episodes led directly to Emilia distancing herself from him. Since he can't tell anybody about his reviving of course she can't understand his seemingly unhealthy obsession with her.

Making a fool of himself and challenging the knights like that, embarrassing Emilia in the process, when he wasn't even supposed to be there was the last straw.

Sure as the viewer we can say that it was unfair for her to leave him like that, ONLY because she's not aware of what happened the first time they actually met, but in the context of the story that was 100% fair for Emilia to do. It would have been ILLOGICAL for Emilia to keep up relations with Subaru after his recent actions.
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I don't even know what to say...i totally wasn't expecting this.
What will happen next? Will Subaru kill himself and try to not make the same mistakes? Or he will continue like this and later things will get better?
I feel bad for both of them but i am on Subaru's side, he went through so much alone...
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LoliSatan said:


How unempathetic, did you seriously just weaken this down to "lol cuz he didn get laid XDDD"?

Is it really this hard to point this shit out to you people? Subaru clearly is in love with Emilia, and although he did some stupid shit, he did not deserve to be completely cut off from Emilia. They're both wrong in their own ways, they're both bad people in their own ways, and they both don't seem to understand each other.

I honestly think Subaru is better off abandoning Emilia, and just staying with Rem.


English lesson for the day:
I made a comparison, not a simile (google the definitions of the two if you want); between Subaru and entitled beta guys who can't get laid, highlighting the entitled mentality that many guys have. If I made a comparison with how similar Rem and Ram are in character, does that make them the same? No. They're twins that have their own personalities and differences that make them quite different individuals. If I compared the twins' appearance to Japanese red and blue oni "they're as contrasting as oni" then that would be a simile. To conclude; no, Subaru is not a thirsty guy looking for a good time. He is however, an entitled little bitch, LIKE guys who can't get laid.

As for Subaru being in love with Emilia: Well no shit Sherlock, how long did it take for you to figure that out? I honestly would have never guessed in a million years. How about the next time you reply to someone, be a little less condescending like a prick, otherwise, you'll receive an equally condensing reply.

Now that's off my chest, I do agree with you that Subaru is better off with Rem. Good day.
Jun 26, 2016 8:47 PM
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AivanK said:
I don't even know what to say...i totally wasn't expecting this.
What will happen next? Will Subaru kill himself and try to not make the same mistakes? Or he will continue like this and later things will get better?
I feel bad for both of them but i am on Subaru's side, he went through so much alone...
Rem will be there for him, but things will be fucked up more, I think the more he was attached to the person the more he would be fucked up, what a pitiful curse to him ;-; *sobs*
Jun 26, 2016 8:50 PM
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Wait, when did I say that I didn't think he fucked up massively? I just also don't believe that he deserved to be dropped like a sack of potatoes by Emilia because she's insecure and insular.


You watched the episode right? His actions the last two episodes led directly to Emilia distancing herself from him. Since he can't tell anybody about his reviving of course she can't understand his seemingly unhealthy obsession with her.

Making a fool of himself and challenging the knights like that, embarrassing Emilia in the process, when he wasn't even supposed to be there was the last straw.

Sure as the viewer we can say that it was unfair for her to leave him like that, ONLY because she's not aware of what happened the first time they actually met, but in the context of the story that was 100% fair for Emilia to do. It would have been ILLOGICAL for Emilia to keep up relations with Subaru after his recent actions.


Yes I watched episode, stop being a condescending prick, and I already said I agreed with you on the fact that he fucked up, but where do you keep getting this "unhealthy obsession" bullshit from? You do realize that Subaru is in love with Emilia, right? I thought that was fairly obvious. His actions are a direct result of his love for her.

You don't think its utterly absurd that she won't understand this? You honestly don't think its unfair for her to only think of herself in this situation?

But I mean, I guess its TOTALLY logical to base his entire character based off of 2 fucking episodes. Sure, he was arrogant before, but he never went to lengths like this.

You people are utterly void of empathy, actually fucking understand something from Subaru's point of view before making Emilia out to be this perfect girl who dindu.nuffins.

Jun 26, 2016 8:54 PM
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How unempathetic, did you seriously just weaken this down to "lol cuz he didn get laid XDDD"?

Is it really this hard to point this shit out to you people? Subaru clearly is in love with Emilia, and although he did some stupid shit, he did not deserve to be completely cut off from Emilia. They're both wrong in their own ways, they're both bad people in their own ways, and they both don't seem to understand each other.

I honestly think Subaru is better off abandoning Emilia, and just staying with Rem.


English lesson for the day:
I made a comparison, not a simile (google the definitions of the two if you want); between Subaru and entitled beta guys who can't get laid, highlighting the entitled mentality that many guys have. If I made a comparison with how similar Rem and Ram are in character, does that make them the same? No. They're twins that have their own personalities and differences that make them quite different individuals. If I compared the twins' appearance to Japanese red and blue oni "they're as contrasting as oni" then that would be a simile. To conclude; no, Subaru is not a thirsty guy looking for a good time. He is however, an entitled little bitch, LIKE guys who can't get laid.

As for Subaru being in love with Emilia: Well no shit Sherlock, how long did it take for you to figure that out? I honestly would have never guessed in a million years. How about the next time you reply to someone, be a little less condescending like a prick, otherwise, you'll receive an equally condensing reply.

Now that's off my chest, I do agree with you that Subaru is better off with Rem. Good day.


Wait wait wait, how is Subaru being entitled here? When did he exactly expect sex from Emilia? He simply wanted to stay with her, and he simply wanted her to understand his point of view, but Emilia refused to even try and understand his point of view. Subaru was also only doing those things for his own ego, etc.

Well it seemed that you were completely ignorant of that fact since you, being the lovely unempathetic prick that you are, made Subaru out to be only wanting sex.

Jun 26, 2016 8:58 PM
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Dang. You guys are cold as hell! Subaru experienced so many gruesome deaths in a completely different world which would leave anybody traumatized. Adding in the fact that he literally can't explain any of it? Heartbreaking.

No one even realizes that THEY are the powerless ones while Subaru is controlling every situation through countless deaths.

If his past lives ever get revealed, everyone is gonna feel like a huge asshole.
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LoliSatan said:
4kicks said:


English lesson for the day:
I made a comparison, not a simile (google the definitions of the two if you want); between Subaru and entitled beta guys who can't get laid, highlighting the entitled mentality that many guys have. If I made a comparison with how similar Rem and Ram are in character, does that make them the same? No. They're twins that have their own personalities and differences that make them quite different individuals. If I compared the twins' appearance to Japanese red and blue oni "they're as contrasting as oni" then that would be a simile. To conclude; no, Subaru is not a thirsty guy looking for a good time. He is however, an entitled little bitch, LIKE guys who can't get laid.

As for Subaru being in love with Emilia: Well no shit Sherlock, how long did it take for you to figure that out? I honestly would have never guessed in a million years. How about the next time you reply to someone, be a little less condescending like a prick, otherwise, you'll receive an equally condensing reply.

Now that's off my chest, I do agree with you that Subaru is better off with Rem. Good day.


Wait wait wait, how is Subaru being entitled here? When did he exactly expect sex from Emilia? He simply wanted to stay with her, and he simply wanted her to understand his point of view, but Emilia refused to even try and understand his point of view. Subaru was also only doing those things for his own ego, etc.

Well it seemed that you were completely ignorant of that fact since you, being the lovely unempathetic prick that you are, made Subaru out to be only wanting sex.


Holy shit, did just skim what I wrote? Never once, have I explicitly said Subaru wanted sex. I have however, compared him to guys that do want sex, for they share the same entitled mentality...keyword: entitled, full stop. Period. The sex part is irrelevant to the prior point mentioned of entitlement. You're reading into it too literally, which you end up taking it way out of context. Seriously..."English, mother fucker, do you speak it!?" - Samuel L Jackson. That's it, I'm done trying reason here.

Edit: To answer your question, he feels entitled to not sex (as you've misunderstood), but entitled to be in Emilia's life and her affairs--that's the point I'm making.
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There's something to be said for a story where the primary source of conflict is the main character being a pretentious asshole waving his 2 inch dick in everybody's faces while they were just trying to get shit done.

At least he got chewed out at the end, which means the author knows what he wrought. Still, when I watch shit like this, I can't help but wonder how I'm supposed to be entertained by this shit.
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All Subaru has to do is to jump from the window and reload from the last check point. Out of all the candidates; the green hair chick looks the most promising. She so dignified and charming, and that uniform.
Jun 26, 2016 9:06 PM

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Felt was brilliant here. Subaru in this episode remind me of Ikoma. Only know how to talk and shout loud but doesn't use brain.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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I was cringing like the whole time what's with subaru being stupid and a big baka!? But I think he's being degraded for the viewers like we all should think that and theennn boooooooom crazy comeback
Jun 26, 2016 9:08 PM
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fst said:
There's something to be said for a story where the primary source of conflict is the main character being a pretentious asshole waving his 2 inch dick in everybody's faces while they were just trying to get shit done.

At least he got chewed out at the end, which means the author knows what he wrought. Still, when I watch shit like this, I can't help but wonder how I'm supposed to be entertained by this shit.


Lol. Very nice interpretation of this episodes events. 1+1=2?

Go read the web novel if you need help understanding what's going on in this episode. ( Arc 3 if your interested https://kagurojp.wordpress.com )
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People keep saying that he should restart but are you watching the show?

It's been established many times that dying is very painful. Think about that a little abit.

Just because he has this power (which it isn't really a power more like a horrible curse) doesn't mean he can abuse it whenever he wants.
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Jun 26, 2016 9:10 PM
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I can't believe there's people hating on Emilia cause of the latest episode. If anything I'm glad that she finally shows some kind of character development beyond generic nice girl & love interest. Subaru just lied straight to her face and publicly humiliated her in front of the most important people in the kingdom because of his white knight complex; was she just supposed to let that slide? What part of "You should have a greater debt to me than you could ever repay" doesn't scream possessiveness? This has nothing to do with selfless love and he should stop pretending that it is.
Jun 26, 2016 9:11 PM
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Wait wait wait, how is Subaru being entitled here? When did he exactly expect sex from Emilia? He simply wanted to stay with her, and he simply wanted her to understand his point of view, but Emilia refused to even try and understand his point of view. Subaru was also only doing those things for his own ego, etc.

Well it seemed that you were completely ignorant of that fact since you, being the lovely unempathetic prick that you are, made Subaru out to be only wanting sex.


Holy shit, did just skim what I wrote? Never once, have I explicitly said Subaru wanted sex. I have however, compared him to guys that do want sex, for they share the same entitled mentality...keyword: entitled, full stop. Period. The sex part is irrelevant to the prior point mentioned of entitlement. You're reading into it too literally, which you end up taking it way out of context. Seriously..."English, mother fucker, do you speak it!?" - Samuel L Jackson. That's it, I'm done trying reason here.


No, you keep seeming to forget all the shit he went through to save her intentionally so to whiteknight for Emilia.

You also don't seem to understand what the word "entitled" means, since you haven't actively laid out why he's entitled for loving Emilia.
The nigga fucking jumped off cliffs, killed himself, kill others, etc just to save Emilia.

Now obviously to Emilia she doesn't know that because of the loops, but the point still stands that Subaru isn't entitled, and that you seem to completely forget all the shit he did for her during previous time loops.

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All Subaru has to do is to jump from the window and reload from the last check point. Out of all the candidates; the green hair chick looks the most promising. She so dignified and charming, and that uniform.


Hmm. 'Disciplined' is the word for her.



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Holy shit, did just skim what I wrote? Never once, have I explicitly said Subaru wanted sex. I have however, compared him to guys that do want sex, for they share the same entitled mentality...keyword: entitled, full stop. Period. The sex part is irrelevant to the prior point mentioned of entitlement. You're reading into it too literally, which you end up taking it way out of context. Seriously..."English, mother fucker, do you speak it!?" - Samuel L Jackson. That's it, I'm done trying reason here.


No, you keep seeming to forget all the shit he went through to save her intentionally so to whiteknight for Emilia.

You also don't seem to understand what the word "entitled" means, since you haven't actively laid out why he's entitled for loving Emilia.
The nigga fucking jumped off cliffs, killed himself, kill others, etc just to save Emilia.

Now obviously to Emilia she doesn't know that because of the loops, but the point still stands that Subaru isn't entitled, and that you seem to completely forget all the shit he did for her during previous time loops.


Don't forget that he did it for his ego, too. As Emilia pointed out.
Jun 26, 2016 9:12 PM
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So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.
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I can't believe there's people hating on Emilia cause of the latest episode. If anything I'm glad that she finally shows some kind of character development beyond generic nice girl & love interest. Subaru just lied straight to her face and publicly humiliated her in front of the most important people in the kingdom because of his white knight complex; was she just supposed to let that slide? What part of "You should have a greater debt to me than you could ever repay" doesn't scream possessiveness? This has nothing to do with selfless love and he should stop pretending that it is.


What? She was already being humiliated by EVERYONE. YOU really think Subaru made things that much worse? She's already a worthless half-demon with connections with the witch. She's a shy optimistic little girl who spells doom to the Kingdom in their eyes. Her being there is a JOKE. SUBARU only attempted to stand up for her because she has a fetish for being a punching bag.
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It's been established many times that dying is very painful. Think about that a little abit.


It doesn't have to be. Not if you control the circumstances.

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Just because he has this power (which it isn't really a power more like a horrible curse) doesn't mean he can abuse it whenever he wants.


He already abused it at least once so far.

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fst said:
There's something to be said for a story where the primary source of conflict is the main character being a pretentious asshole waving his 2 inch dick in everybody's faces while they were just trying to get shit done.

At least he got chewed out at the end, which means the author knows what he wrought. Still, when I watch shit like this, I can't help but wonder how I'm supposed to be entertained by this shit.


Lol. Very nice interpretation of this episodes events. 1+1=2?

Go read the web novel if you need help understanding what's going on in this episode. ( Arc 3 if your interested https://kagurojp.wordpress.com )


Do you have an actual point to make or are you just advertising the novel?
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And so Subaru went full retard and fucked up completely. Now Emilia will leave for almost entire arc and won't appear till near end of anime.
I hope no one will blame her for it.


I don't blame her for it. I've been praising the writing up to this point, but Subaru going full retard like this is extremely out of character for him at this point. This episode felt really cringe-worthy at points, and much of the drama felt extremely forced.

Your comment, due to being extremely spoiler-y, brought up some extremely unpleasant fears. If the rest of the season is him trying to get over his baby drama I can see the quality of the show dropping quite quickly.
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Fluffmaestro said:
So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.
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So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.


Yeah, I totally agree with you here. The point of the writing is that its supposed to rile you up, and make you emotional, but my problem is that people don't want to give Subaru even slightly any leeway and just claim he's an entitled bitch, regardless of what we, the viewers, have watched him go through.

People keep acting like they're in Emilia's shoes without even trying to understand Subaru's plight in this entire story. Its aggravating.

I just don't think this genre is for me, it gets me too emotional and I end up lashing out at nearly everyone on this forum.

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Don't forget that he did it for his ego, too. As Emilia pointed out.


She only said that because she didn't know he painfully died over and over again to save her without ANY possibility of recognition.
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Paraphrased: "I've done so much for you because [redacted], you owe me a huge debt!" - Subaru. If that's not the very definition of entitlement, nothing is. Yes, he is entitled to love her. No, he is not entitled to her letting him be in her life or her political affairs, regardless of what he's done for her.
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It's been established many times that dying is very painful. Think about that a little abit.


It doesn't have to be. Not if you control the circumstances.

TeamDalaiLana said:
Just because he has this power (which it isn't really a power more like a horrible curse) doesn't mean he can abuse it whenever he wants.


He already abused it at least once so far.

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Lol. Very nice interpretation of this episodes events. 1+1=2?

Go read the web novel if you need help understanding what's going on in this episode. ( Arc 3 if your interested https://kagurojp.wordpress.com )


Do you have an actual point to make or are you just advertising the novel?
fst said:
TeamDalaiLana said:
It's been established many times that dying is very painful. Think about that a little abit.


It doesn't have to be. Not if you control the circumstances.

TeamDalaiLana said:
Just because he has this power (which it isn't really a power more like a horrible curse) doesn't mean he can abuse it whenever he wants.


He already abused it at least once so far.

LaxusAK said:


Lol. Very nice interpretation of this episodes events. 1+1=2?

Go read the web novel if you need help understanding what's going on in this episode. ( Arc 3 if your interested https://kagurojp.wordpress.com )


Do you have an actual point to make or are you just advertising the novel?


Does 1+1=2? Are you someone who only thinks surface level when interpreting fiction? What you said was beyond irrelevant.
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Don't forget that he did it for his ego, too. As Emilia pointed out.


She only said that because she didn't know he painfully died over and over again to save her without ANY possibility of recognition.


It was more than that... When he insulted Julius and the knights, he was defending his own worth. He should've accepted what Julius told him. And kept quiet. But he didn't want to be seen as a loser by Emilia. Her opinion matters much to him.

He helped himself by helping her and the others. Because it made him look good for her.

In the alley with Priscilla, he wanted to look good, too (but to himself). By being heroic. Even fearing what he was doing. Just before that, he said so himself 'I look so pathetic.' Just after the hand kiss scene with Julius.
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Paraphrased: "I've done so much for you because [redacted], you owe me a huge debt!" - Subaru. If that's not the very definition of entitlement, nothing is.


You seem to keep forgetting what he went through, and continue to only look at this through the eyes of Emilia. Keep in mind the time loops. She owes him a huge debt, but because she doesn't know of these things he did for her because of the time loops I can see why you may think its entitlement.

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Does 1+1=2? Are you someone who only thinks surface level when interpreting fiction?


Asking whether or not 1+1=2 is a terrible analogy for the point that you're actually trying to make. If I had answered no, then what that would actually mean, and what most people would understand that to mean, is that I don't believe in logic.

Nobody but you would interpret that as asking whether or not I take everything at face value.
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Paraphrased: "I've done so much for you because [redacted], you owe me a huge debt!" - Subaru. If that's not the very definition of entitlement, nothing is. Yes, he is entitled to love her. No, he is not entitled to her letting him be in her life or her political affairs, regardless of what he's done for her.


He is definitely entitled to be in her life since his connection with the witch probably relates to her. He was pulled into this world against his will, then almost immediately suffers painful deaths without understanding a single thing, just trying to help a girl.

The problem is that no one else knows how important he is to the fate of the priestesses.
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4kicks said:


Paraphrased: "I've done so much for you because [redacted], you owe me a huge debt!" - Subaru. If that's not the very definition of entitlement, nothing is.


You seem to keep forgetting what he went through, and continue to only look at this through the eyes of Emilia. Keep in mind the time loops. She owes him a huge debt, but because she doesn't know of these things he did for her because of the time loops I can see why you may think its entitlement.


Even so, that hardly dismisses his conduct this episode. Does all that he went through mean that he should be allowed to make all that fuss? Because it didn't accomplish anything, and if anything, was a headache for everybody involved.

And yes you could argue that he's earned the right to make a headache for everybody (which is setting aside the fact that he made things harder for himself)... but where the fuck did it get him in the end? Even if somebody owes you a massive, massive favor, that was hardly an appropriate way to cash it in.
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Well this was the perfect example to show the beautiful characterization in this story. First off, yes you’re supposed to think "Subaru you deserved this tho". Yes you can disagree with his actions and if you see faulty in his behavior you and to call him out on that then please do so. This is all intentional by the author and he wants you to think freely. This is no story where you have to support the protagonist’s decisions and behavior no matter what. No the author is conscious that Subaru is faulty from head to toe. He knows that and he punishes Subaru by taking the most important thing of this world from him.

Best if Subaru just stick with rem though she's clearly the one who loves him and will give anything to him,Too bad rem dies in arc 3 :D
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You seem to keep forgetting what he went through, and continue to only look at this through the eyes of Emilia. Keep in mind the time loops. She owes him a huge debt, but because she doesn't know of these things he did for her because of the time loops I can see why you may think its entitlement.


Even so, that hardly dismisses his conduct this episode. Does all that he went through mean that he should be allowed to make all that fuss? Because it didn't accomplish anything, and if anything, was a headache for everybody involved.

And yes you could argue that he's earned the right to make a headache for everybody (which is setting aside the fact that he made things harder for himself)... but where the fuck did it get him in the end? Even if somebody owes you a massive, massive favor, that was hardly an appropriate way to cash it in.


See that I agree with. Subaru acted like a total fucking spazz in front of the entire royal court, especially after Emilia was already getting humiliated by just about everyone else, but I still feel like there should be some empathy left for Subaru despite his idiocy.

I, too found Subaru to be an annoying arrogant cunt, but my empathy is too strong not to forgive him. Y'all niggas cold as hell.

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4kicks said:


Paraphrased: "I've done so much for you because [redacted], you owe me a huge debt!" - Subaru. If that's not the very definition of entitlement, nothing is. Yes, he is entitled to love her. No, he is not entitled to her letting him be in her life or her political affairs, regardless of what he's done for her.


He is definitely entitled to be in her life since his connection with the witch probably relates to her. He was pulled into this world against his will-


It was accordingly to his will. He wanted it. He was depressed. There's a possibility that he being brought there was only possible, due to him wanting it.
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LaxusAK said:
Does 1+1=2? Are you someone who only thinks surface level when interpreting fiction?


Asking whether or not 1+1=2 is a terrible analogy for the point that you're actually trying to make. If I had answered no, then what that would actually mean, and what most people would understand that to mean, is that I don't believe in logic.

Nobody but you would interpret that as asking whether or not I take everything at face value.

This anime is illogical. Its funny that you said no one would understand it but you just did perfectly. The guy died multiple times and has been included in multiple timelines(all after being transported to a fantasy world) logic does not play a large role in what he does. You said that he wagged his penis around for his ego fucking shit up when in reality it was only him attempting to protect his "EMT" who he died multiple times to save from being disrespected and belittled.
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I can't believe there's people hating on Emilia cause of the latest episode. If anything I'm glad that she finally shows some kind of character development beyond generic nice girl & love interest. Subaru just lied straight to her face and publicly humiliated her in front of the most important people in the kingdom because of his white knight complex; was she just supposed to let that slide? What part of "You should have a greater debt to me than you could ever repay" doesn't scream possessiveness? This has nothing to do with selfless love and he should stop pretending that it is.


To be fair what he said to Emilia, he probably didn't mean it. It is due to the frustration of not being able to explain what has been happening to him to anyone else. He simply cracked because of the mental stress of dying over over again to make things right. However, still his behavior at the court was inexcusable lol. He kinda put the bad situation on himself. I actually thought things were progressing nicely with him and emilia. I'm not sure why he had to go do more and put himself out there like that.
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So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.
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So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.


Yeah, I totally agree with you here. The point of the writing is that its supposed to rile you up, and make you emotional, but my problem is that people don't want to give Subaru even slightly any leeway and just claim he's an entitled bitch, regardless of what we, the viewers, have watched him go through.

People keep acting like they're in Emilia's shoes without even trying to understand Subaru's plight in this entire story. Its aggravating.

I just don't think this genre is for me, it gets me too emotional and I end up lashing out at nearly everyone on this forum.




Well I can say that if I "hate" anyone here it's still Subaru. Not because he lashes out on Emilia. That's just the aftermath of stupid decisions he made before. The problem is that he is getting desperate. and that's when this whole entitlement-thing comes forth. desperation is ugly... I mean look at that sports team years ago that crashed in the Andes(I think) and those who survived had eaten their own friends that died.

As the complainers from before said. He is acting out of character. The issue here is that they still believe him to be fine... he should go back to be calm and positive, back to the facade.

Though it is his characterisation, and the events his been through, that from the beginning makes him go out of character... the desperation takes over. The same desperation we see when he kills himself to save Rem. Most people remember that he went "yeah I'm gonna save Rem and you Ram". BUT he was already desperate and out of character there. He had already been chased to that corner. Most don't remember that Ram tried to kill him, once again because he couldn't speak out and became the suspect. Desperation kicks in and he does drastic stuff. same goes for here but on a more emotional level. He tries to do what he feels is right. But he gets rejected by Emilia and basically everyone around him... (like when he was suspected for Rems death) and his "second mind" kicks in.


As of he is before. Well he is mostly tactless and take things more lightly than he should. he is very naive about his situation. And sure that's fine as long as nothing bad happens. But those traits get really ugly when they kick wrong. The traits are there.

the problem we make here is that we basically blame the characters for their reactions... not their actions.

And to be honest. He fucks up royally. But his reaction is "normal" and to be expected of his state of mind. Now I am probably the wrong person to argue as I don't "hate" on any of the characters. But Subaru is mostly at fault here for not listening and than keeping his pride too far and not backing of not half-dead but just a bit ashamed.
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LoliSatan said:
Fluffmaestro said:
So let's take this like we are not viewers but in Emilia's head.

1. you have met this guy for just about a month or two.

2. He is acting weird and say things not always possible for you to comprehend.

3. He is doing a kind thing, but he overdo it and you have seen him break down because of it.

4. He keeps acting like he knows you more than he should. He even claims he does even though you know nothing about this. You met this guy in a random shack in the slums. decided to help him as he was dying and then you saw him try his hardest to make up for it by work, breaking down, then running and help a village. All this by still claiming to know more and more about you.

5.In the end, as he follows you as a part of his job, the job as a servant... to listen to you and follow your orders. He decided not to listen to you. He is not only showing up at the place you forbid him to go to anyway.. He also interfere in a way that could harm your position.

6. He continues and in the end almost gets killed though you in the last seconds try to stop him.

7. He wakes up, acting rather strange, once again claiming you two have been through so much but you still only remember that shack and seeing him running around the mansion and occasionally talk and learn him some stuff. you saved him one, but he talks about more, about several times.

8. He lashes out at you for claiming that all this doesn't make sense. You do the logical thing on calling him out before it takes to far. He insist and even claims that all he do, he do for you... until he begins to get more passive aggressive and begins to claims you owe him.

9. And when you ask about it. He can't tell you. He can't explain why he knows this things about you. Or claims to going through this stuff you don't know about.


This still as he didn't even listen to you when you asked him to stay put.






I don't say I like it. But to me it's pretty clear why Emilia makes her decision. We can see how it actually happens... but remember that Emilia makes this decision based on what she knows.. and she doesn't know about him dying over and over.

WE know why. Emilia don't know why. We know there is a hand that wanna squeeze his heart as he tries to talk about his experience with reviving. Emilia only see this guy who stops talking only to changing subject or not saying anything at all.


Also the whole point of trauma, depression, desperation etc. is that it messes with your character.

As a writer myself I have written a novel about a guy who dies, and comes back.

he is at first confident, a bit naive. after the death he can't even get his ass out of the door... why you ask? Because he got a changed perspective. The way he look at things isn't as he looked at it before. In gets a feeling of anxiety and uncertainty. Subaru is no difference. The difference between my character and Subaru is that Subaru tries to hide it with his weird overpositive and overenergetic ways of taking on everything. And when he reaches the corner and can't run? he has only one way out and that is forward.. and in the way is our beloved Emilia-tan. A facade can only take you so far. And that I can tell from my own experience.


Yeah, I totally agree with you here. The point of the writing is that its supposed to rile you up, and make you emotional, but my problem is that people don't want to give Subaru even slightly any leeway and just claim he's an entitled bitch, regardless of what we, the viewers, have watched him go through.

People keep acting like they're in Emilia's shoes without even trying to understand Subaru's plight in this entire story. Its aggravating.

I just don't think this genre is for me, it gets me too emotional and I end up lashing out at nearly everyone on this forum.
I'm so glad still some understand why Subaru and Emilia act in that way ^^
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I really hate hearing LN/WN readers saying this episode is so bad because it is worse than the LN. As an anime-only, I have no problems at that. It would be boring for those who watched the anime and then bought the LN and read just the same thing as in the anime. It would be refreshing if more content are read than just everything in the LN is just in the anime.
I enjoyed the episode. Subaru deserved it. He thinks he is helping when he is not. He thinks what he is doing is the right way. No Subaru, the results are more important than the resolve in real life. If you have the resolve but cannot produce results, it's still trash.
If Emilia is the LN, Subaru is the anime. The adaptation sucks (accoriding to LN/WN readers), like Subaru.
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He is definitely entitled to be in her life since his connection with the witch probably relates to her. He was pulled into this world against his will-


It was accordingly to his will. He wanted it. He was depressed. There's a possibility that he being brought there was only possible, due to him wanting it.


inb4 pokemon creepypasta coma theory.
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I really hate hearing LN/WN readers saying this episode is so bad because it is worse than the LN. As an anime-only, I have no problems at that. It would be boring for those who watched the anime and then bought the LN and read just the same thing as in the anime. It would be refreshing if more content are read than just everything in the LN is just in the anime.
I enjoyed the episode. Subaru deserved it. He thinks he is helping when he is not. He thinks what he is doing is the right way. No Subaru, the results are more important than the resolve in real life. If you have the resolve but cannot produce results, it's still trash.
If Emilia is the LN, Subaru is the anime. The adaptation sucks (accoriding to LN/WN readers), like Subaru.


Lol WN, Ln, Manga, and the anime all have differences but I haven't really seen anybody say this adaptation is that bad. The opposite in fact.

Side note: Most people still consider Emilia trash and like Subaru. Series wise you're in the minority.
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The overreactions.... I can see people having a huge fit when the show ends.

Because it will NOT be your typical HAPPY ending show.

I honestly hope people are prepared for the absolute depressing nature of what's to come.

For me I think that's just beautiful. I love sadness and depression so it's perfect.


There's nothing wrong with depressing or painful as long as it is well written and not badly produced Akame Ga Kill level of edge for sake of edge.

Pretty much nobody expects this to be a happy show.

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ummm no? That would be a very cliche protag.

A protagonist is simply the lead character. It could be a villain, an idiot, anyone.

He should not be despicable inconsistent stalker. Especially not in the show which is entirely based around viewers caring about the protagonist succeeding.
i'm just telling people to be prepared esp someone like you who already seem to have major problems with how the show is heading. It is a drama and it will be very dramatic. Kiznaiver who?.... I don't want to be scrolling through walls of text of people complaining the same shit over over again week to week.

Most sad shows still have a sense of euphoria like it's sad on a surface level. It's more of a relief. But not this show. Just saying.

There's a "what if" chapter when you buy the BD for a reason. Let's just say it's steins gate but without the super cliche shounen "I have the power to save everyone" ending. It will be sour and bitter and frustrating and I will love it.
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Episode 14pr not ???
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To sumarize my thoughts...

Subaru did wrong action-wise

neither him nor Emilia did wrong reaction-wise because there can't be any right or wrong in the case between them. Yes Subaru's reaction was an true asspull. And Emilia's was kind of cold. But neither of them can understand the other. They are on completely different levels. Which level is right? The one that doesn't grasp the whole situation? Or the side where he can't see beyond his own desperation, and also he... don't grasp the whole situation?

to me.. this is just clever emotional writing.
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Zeally said:
aboynameddeath said:
I can't believe there's people hating on Emilia cause of the latest episode. If anything I'm glad that she finally shows some kind of character development beyond generic nice girl & love interest. Subaru just lied straight to her face and publicly humiliated her in front of the most important people in the kingdom because of his white knight complex; was she just supposed to let that slide? What part of "You should have a greater debt to me than you could ever repay" doesn't scream possessiveness? This has nothing to do with selfless love and he should stop pretending that it is.


To be fair what he said to Emilia, he probably didn't mean it. It is due to the frustration of not being able to explain what has been happening to him to anyone else. He simply cracked because of the mental stress of dying over over again to make things right. However, still his behavior at the court was inexcusable lol. He kinda put the bad situation on himself. I actually thought things were progressing nicely with him and emilia. I'm not sure why he had to go do more and put himself out there like that.


I have always held the view that whatever you say when you're angry is what you truly feel. What you say when you're calm and happy is just a facade. In real life, in shows, in whatever.
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