| Hello all. Obviously, I am not asking for YT or IMG BBCode, nor am I asking for size BBcode (I can see how that can turn into a trollfest real quick). However, I believe reviewers here on MAL should have the ability to use certain BBCode. It would allow for the ever-useful spoiler code to be used, so that instead of having to put a notice on the top of the review, one can simply sanction off the spoiler-specific sections. But more importantly, reviewers would be able to use Boldfont and Italicfont, which I feel is almost essential to every review in order for it to fully express the author's feelings. Bold/Italic really adds to the text when used intelligently. Thoughts? |
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| spoilers should be added. It's really difficult to review a series while avoiding them and I see a lot of reviews that start with "this review contains spoilers" so it would clearly be useful |
| While I am not fully against it, I can't say that I agree. If you keep a nice paragraph layout and a fluid text, you can find a way to emphasize the stuff you would bold/italic with normal sentences. A review should be attractive by its word content, not by the visual layout. Sure, the visual helps, but it's not the focus. Bold and Italic would be indeed nice additions, if used with common sense - however - when we implement something like this in a community like MAL where everybody can review stuff, DO expect a flood of huge text-walls fully written in bold and the ridiculous excessive use of it. As for the spoiler tag, no. A review may NOT include spoilers, therefore, there's no need for a spoiler box. If you see reviews with spoilers, report them, since it's against the rules (and what defines a review, but ppl nowadays don't seem to care about it). |
| I prefer it without any BBCodes whatsoever. AniList, AniDB, Hummingbird and many other already support the use of BBCodes in reviews, but I'm personally not fond of that. Content is what matters, not enhanced presentation. If I would prefer it flashy, I would look at a video review. Otherwise, I prefer it as simple as it can get. |
xbobx said: Bold and Italic would be indeed nice additions, if used with common sense - however - when we implement something like this in a community like MAL where everybody can review stuff, DO expect a flood of huge text-walls fully written in bold and the ridiculous excessive use of it. This is true. I mentioned the same thing for size tags, but bold abuse certainly could happen as well. xbobx said: As for the spoiler tag, no. A review may NOT include spoilers, therefore, there's no need for a spoiler box. If you see reviews with spoilers, report them, since it's against the rules (and what defines a review, but ppl nowadays don't seem to care about it). Actually, there has been an update on Oct. 16, 2014 to the review guidelines. Spoilers are now "officially" OK'd, so long as there is a spoiler mention at the top (which is why I think a spoiler BBcode would be useful, so as to allow readers to know which parts contain spoilers and which don't). And even before then, spoilers could be included as long as they were included with great discretion. |
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| This sounds like a good idea, but yeah only a little or people would want to pretty up their reviews. |
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Kyuutoryuu said: xbobx said: As for the spoiler tag, no. A review may NOT include spoilers, therefore, there's no need for a spoiler box. If you see reviews with spoilers, report them, since it's against the rules (and what defines a review, but ppl nowadays don't seem to care about it). Actually, there has been an update on Oct. 16, 2014 to the review guidelines. Spoilers are now "officially" OK'd, so long as there is a spoiler mention at the top (which is why I think a spoiler BBcode would be useful, so as to allow readers to know which parts contain spoilers and which don't). And even before then, spoilers could be included as long as they were included with great discretion. Oh, sorry, my bad then. I didn't know about this guideline update. Well, I guess then there's no reason to oppose to the suggestion. It's also something harder to spam and abuse on since it requires a lot of brackets opening/closing and doesn't have the same effect 200000 characters in bold does. Just a off-topic comment, tho. The "staff" already hates me for these, so why not one more. IIRC, it was indeed allowed "spoilers" for sequels and when they were justified by the author. Fine, that was FINE. It is not the ideal writing but college tells us it's fine under certain circumstances. However, what they're doing now is pathetic. By allowing someone to add blatant spoilers to his/her review with the sole need to mention "contain spoilers", they will turn the review space into a "muh personal analysis and enjoyment" aka: BLOGGING. If you happen to write reviews to this site, please, never do something like this. I beg you. It's disgusting. |
| Yes! Bring on the spoiler bbcode, I say lols I raise you one more "off-topic comment": I (obviously) have no idea what goes on in the MAL "backroom" (lol), but I can only assume that there was a band of pissed-off reviewers getting their reviews modded because they had the smallest of spoilers. To that, I can somewhat sympathize, as it is frustrating when your review is not able to contain small details about the anime, details that better show the reader what it's all about. Conversely, your point is certainly valid. I can already see some reviews turning into "afterthoughts"-type discussion threads, with only the spoiler tag at the top to justify it. We will soon see how this update shapes out I guess. |
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| Just because you have the option to submit a review doesn't mean you should actually do it if you feel incapable of following the guidelines set. |
Subpyro said: Just because you have the option to submit a review doesn't mean you should actually do it if you feel incapable of following the guidelines set. Spoilers are now allowed in reviews buddy. |
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| It seems you did not understand my point, since that's exactly what I've been implying. Read the post again and try to understand it before replying. If you feel incapable of writing a review without spoilers, you should refrain from submitting it. Spoiler tags cannot act as a replacement. Therefore, no, I'm still against for reasons stated above. |
Subpyro said: It seems you did not understand my point, since that's exactly what I've been implying. Read the post again and try to understand it before replying. If you feel incapable of writing a review without spoilers, you should refrain from submitting it. Spoiler tags cannot act as a replacement. Therefore, no, I'm still against for reasons stated above. What's done is done, I'm not quite sure what you're arguing for. Changes have been made Oct 16 2014 to the review guidlines. Spoiler BBcode tags would simply facilitate those new changes. You should take your post to the review mod committee, or the review guidelines thread if you're looking for change. You're in the wrong place lmao |
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Kyuutoryuu said: the review guidelines thread There is such a thread? |
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Serhiyko said: Kyuutoryuu said: the review guidelines thread There is such a thread? I believe they were refering to this thread and post here. |
Subpyro said: If you feel incapable of writing a review without spoilers, you should refrain from submitting it. Spoiler tags cannot act as a replacement. Therefore, no, I'm still against for reasons stated above. Read the posts of my exchange with him. It's now "allowed" end "enforced" on MAL the addition of spoilers to reviews. If this is questionable or not, is another subject. I don't see how it's something to oppose his suggestion of adding the spoiler BBcode, which, now would - at least - help poor wanderers from steeping on fully loaded spoiler land mines. |
xbobx said: Read the posts of my exchange with him. It's now "allowed" end "enforced" on MAL the addition of spoilers to reviews. If this is questionable or not, is another subject. I don't see how it's something to oppose his suggestion of adding the spoiler BBcode, which, now would - at least - help poor wanderers from steeping on fully loaded spoiler land mines. I know it is, refer to the link I shared above. I also have read your replies and his fully. Me being against the idea of spoilers being allowed in even the slightest and against the spoiler tags go hand in hand. You may call it another topic, but it couldn't be more directly connected to it than this. I am against this new rule and will issue that to the review moderating team. SolvitePriest said: cant wait to see all the reviews with 15 images embedded in them. You didn't ever read the first line of the thread... |
Subpyro said: Serhiyko said: There is such a thread? I believe they were refering to this thread and post here. But it's locked, how are you supposed to take your post there if the thread is locked? |
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Subpyro said: SolvitePriest said: cant wait to see all the reviews with 15 images embedded in them. You didn't ever read the first line of the thread... #1 foruming technique on display |
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| This may have been asked/suggested before, but can we begin to use BB Code in Anime reviews? It will be useful because... -Users can put spoiler tags when discussing big parts of the story people that have not watched the anime yet can avoid -Users can use italics/bold when they want to emphasize certain parts of their review and make it look a little less boring -Make their reviews stand out more Of course there should be certain limitations to BB code usage like -No Youtube videos -No images -No lists |
| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
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| Sometimes we need to mark some lines bold and italic. And the spoiler button could help a lot too. Why not make a custom BBCode for Reviews so that only text formatting is allowed and not any images/Videos. That should be enough to make the reviews a whole lot better |
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| Well, i guess the spoiler button, the bold, the italicised and the underline text could be helpfull. But i'm afraid that writing many spoilers, (using the spoiler button) could make the review less good |
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orion_gospel said: Well, i guess the spoiler button, the bold, the italicised and the underline text could be helpfull. But i'm afraid that writing many spoilers, (using the spoiler button) could make the review less good Not necessarily because only 2 kinds of people are reading reviews 1. Those who want to know whether they should watch it or not (Need to be spoiler free) 2. Those who want to read about other opinions of the show after watching it (Spoilers may be used) So by using more spoilers that may appeal more to people who have already watched the show but may appeal less to those who want to decide whether to watch the show or not. |
| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
GaryMuffuginOak said: orion_gospel said: Well, i guess the spoiler button, the bold, the italicised and the underline text could be helpfull. But i'm afraid that writing many spoilers, (using the spoiler button) could make the review less good Not necessarily because only 2 kinds of people are reading reviews 1. Those who want to know whether they should watch it or not (Need to be spoiler free) 2. Those who want to read about other opinions of the show after watching it (Spoilers may be used) So by using more spoilers that may appeal more to people who have already watched the show but may appeal less to those who want to decide whether to watch the show or not. Yeah i know, but still, if someone who wants to start watching/reading something, and he/she reads a review full of spoilers, then i'm not sure how helpfull it would be for him/her. A review is a tool, to help the reader if something is worth watching/reading. So, too many spoilers would be unessecary and it could ruin him/her the show. Those who read reviews for opinions, nevermind it's ok. |
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