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Oct 18, 2013 3:30 PM
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| We all know that Rewrite is an excellent Visual Novel and that, if some of us would be asked about the things we disliked about it, we'd prefer to answer "Nothing. It was perfect." But, let's be honest here and talk a little bit about the things we did NOT like about this game. Please keep in mind that this is not a bash thread or a hate topic. So please try to keep your criticism constructive and offer reasonable explanatioins. The top 3 things I disliked about Rewrite: 1. The fact that Kotarou had the same voice actor as Ichigo (Bleach). I do not dislike the actor's voice or anything, but just the fact that his voice reminded me of Ichigo made it... quite uncomfortable to hear due to the huge differences in the personalities and ways of thought of these two characters. 2. Most of the characters in Terra route, especially Imamiya. The totally unlikable characters who only made Kotarou's life harder stayed until the end while the likable ones had to be hurt or even killed by Kotarou himself. 3. The fact that Kotarou and Terra Kagari did not aqcuire happiness. I am aware that I prefer 'perfect endings' a bit too much and that a perfectly happy ending would not fit this Novel. However, it can't be denied that it actually had the perfect 'requirements' for a perfect ending. Yes, I'm referring to the 'Time travel' and 'do things over' aspect. Normally, if a character has such a huge set of experiences and a list of mistakes that should be omnitted, it really shouldn't be that big of a difficulty to make everything perfect in the end. Yet Kotarou barely ever had any friends or allies throughout the entire route, saved the world, and yet got nothing in return (not to mention he had to personally stab his beloved...) Even after coming back in the epilogue, he only became a 'plaything' and a 'tool' to save humanity once again. |
Naoki-SatenOct 18, 2013 3:50 PM
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Oct 20, 2013 4:53 AM
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| 1. Terra's scenario itself. It's not that I hate Terra. In fact, it's really an interesting route due to Kotarou's past that he was a part of Guardian(And Gaia?) and his cold-hearted personality. The only thing that it really bothered me and this is the biggest reason why I don't like Terra's scenario is they throw out all of the heroines. Sure there's Kotori and Akane yet that's not the Kotori and Akane that we knew but it can't be help since Terra's scenario is 10 years ago. C'mon, we already grew some pure love for the 5 heroines yet they're going to throw them away at the very final route? That only leaves a bad taste in the end, at least in my opinion. If only I'm the writer, sure I'll include the 10 years ago part as the 1st half but, on the 2nd half, I'll include the 10 years later and they will act similarly what happen on the Moon route(5 heroines and Kotarou helping each other). Something like Matsuribayashi-hen of Higurashi. 2. Lots of inconsistencies and plot-holes. C'mon... Could they just even double-check? I seriously doubt they did that. 3. Dunno... I'll try to think about it then I'll post it here. |
Oct 20, 2013 5:07 AM
#3
| Well personally Rewrite is my favorite Key VN, but of course it's not flawless. If I had to complain about something, then: 1. Perhaps the best thing about Rewrite is its extreme variety. However at the same time that gives it some inconsistencies. Since there were many different writers for the different character routes, there were a few things that was simply contradictionary looking at it logically, like how Kotarou's Aurora developed in Chihaya's route for example. 2. While Rewrite's character routes are much better (well some of them at least) than any from Clannad or Little Busters, the same cannot be said for the True route. It's not that Moon & Terra are bad, but they're just... weird. Especially Terra just felt so offtopic at times, and even though it was a logical follow-up from Moon, there were so little interaction with the other main characters in it that you sometimes couldn't help but ask yourself exactly what the character routes were for in the first place. 3. Quite frankly not much else comes to mind, although I guess I could mention the fact that the heroines got completely different amount of screentime which was a bit awkward. Chihaya's, Akane's and Lucia's routes were almost twice as long as Kotori's and Shizuru's, and they had drastically different importance in the actual true route eventually. Not that this necessarily was a bad thing looking at the big picture, but given that Kagari is the "true" heroine, it felt a bit strange that the other five that ought to be on somewhat even ground initially were given such different amounts of spotlight time. All that said though I still love Rewrite, and purely enjoyment-wise it's potentially the best VN I've ever played, even though looking at the big picture I'll have it settle for 4th for the moment. |
HaXXspettenOct 20, 2013 8:10 AM
Oct 20, 2013 5:40 AM
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HaXXspetten said: there were so little interaction with the other main characters in it that you sometimes couldn't help but ask yourself exactly what the character routes were for in the first place. I'm also thinking the same thing. That's why Terra's scenario really leaves a bad taste on my mouth. |
Oct 20, 2013 6:47 AM
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| this: Tennouji_ said: 1. Terra's scenario itself. It's not that I hate Terra. In fact, it's really an interesting route due to Kotarou's past that he was a part of Guardian(And Gaia?) and his cold-hearted personality. The only thing that it really bothered me and this is the biggest reason why I don't like Terra's scenario is they throw out all of the heroines. Sure there's Kotori and Akane yet that's not the Kotori and Akane that we knew but it can't be help since Terra's scenario is 10 years ago. C'mon, we already grew some pure love for the 5 heroines yet they're going to throw them away at the very final route? That only leaves a bad taste in the end, at least in my opinion. If only I'm the writer, sure I'll include the 10 years ago part as the 1st half but, on the 2nd half, I'll include the 10 years later and they will act similarly what happen on the Moon route(5 heroines and Kotarou helping each other). Something like Matsuribayashi-hen of Higurashi. and this: HaXXspetten said: there were so little interaction with the other main characters in it that you sometimes couldn't help but ask yourself exactly what the character routes were for in the first place. My thoughts exactly. I don't know how all those people who get ecstatic about the terra route view it, but I absolutely don't understand what's so interesting about tossing aside 5 lovely girls that you've gotten to know better than anyone else and instead read something that resembles a soldier's diary, whereas that soldier barely ever had any allies or friends. Since the writers put so much effort into the girl's routes, why not make better use of it? |
Oct 20, 2013 7:39 AM
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| Well Terra route is a Kagari focused route, so having the other heroines there will kinda divide the attention Kagari gets. This is as Romeo had described in his interview...HER route. Not that I was too happy of course. Much like Akane's route ending, I couldn't accept Terra at first. The setting and characters made it feel like all of what I experienced in the first 40 hours was pointless. But after days of thinking about it, understanding the concept and themes Terra conveys for Rewrite, I finally accepted Terra and its ending. And C'mon Kotarou being voiced by Ichigo's voice actor isn't all that bad at all! Now we know Ichigo's voice actor is capable of voicing other characters well aside from that boring and shitty protagonist of Bleach. As for the top 3 things.... 1. Severe lack of communication between the writers. C'mon what was with that pathetic excuse for Chihaya in Akane's route? They just blew Chihaya off like that even though she and Sakuya should have played a role in Akane's route. 2. The shounen standoffs in Chihaya and Kotori's route. I kinda found Kotarou vs Yoshino in Kotori's route kinda lame. Yoshino departing after the rage and coming back to help felt a lot better for me, which is what i got for 1st playthrough. Then in my second playthrough I got the..eh... Then Kotarou vs Sakuya in the final battle of Chihaya's was...hard to get through....Though the other fights were okay. 3. The meh romance between Kotarou and Kagari. I understand that they didn't and couldn't have time to develop their relationship, but the whole Kotarou confessing to Kagari felt kinda forced. And I'm not too satisfied with the "Love doesn't always have to make sense" excuse. Hopefully Harvest Festa will give the interactions and development I'm hoping for. Honorable mention: -We never get the upbeat energetic Kotarou voiced. Should have been voiced in Moon route. Harvest Festa will fix on this though. -Kotori's ending. Again Harvest Festa will fix this. -Dat seed planting quest.... Almost made me give up on getting to the Oppai ending |
KVVOct 20, 2013 7:54 AM
Oct 20, 2013 7:59 AM
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Keetriver said: Well Terra route is a Kagari focused route, so having the other heroines there will kinda divide the attention Kagari gets. This is as Romeo had described in his interview...HER route. Actually, Terra is more like Kotarou's route. Given that he's voiced and it's greatly focused on his views, hardships, etc and not on Kagari's. Moon is the one that I can consider it's Kagari's route. Also, I don't think she's considered even as a heroine in the first place since she's only served as a mere plot-device for the whole story of Rewrite. Also, even Kagari stole the spotlight on all heroine routes except Lucia's. And this guy mentioned the biggest and the most plausible question: HaXXspetten said: there were so little interaction with the other main characters in it that you sometimes couldn't help but ask yourself exactly what the character routes were for in the first place |
TennoujiOct 20, 2013 8:07 AM
Oct 20, 2013 8:06 AM
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Oct 20, 2013 8:09 AM
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Oct 25, 2013 3:12 AM
#10
| Weird, everything that OP stated is exactly what I liked the most about Rewrite. I guess it's all a matter of taste. There are some points that I do dislike however. 1. The science. Really, it bothers me to no end about how the writers went on and explained how the world worked, especially in the Moon route. The fact that Kotarou could rewrite whole realities seems just lazy for me, since it served no purpose at all besides throwing in more stuffs about how cold and lonely wisdom is. 2. The plot inconsistencies. I don't think I need to add much more than what has been said. 3. Romance with Kagari. I am probably one of those that loved the Terra route the most. But, how Kotarou just randomly fell in love with Kagari just doesn't sit with me. Besides, Kagari's dull and annoying personality makes her the worst heroine. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
Oct 25, 2013 3:25 AM
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Oct 25, 2013 11:05 AM
#12
| Hmm... Rewrite was great to me, but there were some quicks that didn't sit well... 1) Terra route, which was a "meh" compared to almost every other route. Other "true end" routes, like LB's Refrain and Clannad's After Story, were the most powerful routes of the respective games. Terra route, on the other hand, feels subpar to Lucia (and for me, Moon) route, is thematically somewhat disjointed, heroines of the main routes are almost completely forgotten, and the ending is true "meh". Ok, I can take the non-romance ending between Kagari and Kotarou as the "bittersweet ending", but for the other heroines to not remember him despite their involvement in other 6 routes... Nope, I can't take it. 2) Chihaya route was effectively Sakuya route... do I need to explain more? Combined with her (dis)appearance in Akane route, I get the feeling she was in Rewrite only as comedic relief, not a true heroine like other 5 (including Kagari) were. 3) Plot inconsistencies (like others said), and possible timeline "wtf"s. Is the whole Rewrite timeline one big paradox? BONUS: Selection screens in Terra without any selection. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Oct 25, 2013 11:30 AM
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Oct 25, 2013 12:22 PM
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HaXXspetten said: HunterTennouji said: Given what Kagari's solution at the end of Moon was, that wasn't really randomBut, how Kotarou just randomly fell in love with Kagari just doesn't sit with me. Yeah, he was "programmed" to love Kagari, which is why I don't like it. With the other heroines, Kotarou (or the player) actively pursues for a girl and gradually develops feelings for her. In Terra, Kotarou just decided to save the world to do something noble (because he loathes the way the world works) but somewhere along the way, he just fell in love with Kagari without any hint of romance at all. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
Oct 25, 2013 7:34 PM
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Aurioch said: 2) Chihaya route was effectively Sakuya route... do I need to explain more? Combined with her (dis)appearance in Akane route, I get the feeling she was in Rewrite only as comedic relief, not a true heroine like other 5 (including Kagari) were. It's still Chihaya's route and Chihaya is still considered a heroine but Sakuya took the whole spotlight. We will know nothing about Sakuya if we don't try to know Chihaya first. Just like Tohsaka Rin is still considered a heroine from F/SN. *cough* UBW *cough*. |
Oct 26, 2013 3:24 PM
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Tennouji_ said: Aurioch said: 2) Chihaya route was effectively Sakuya route... do I need to explain more? Combined with her (dis)appearance in Akane route, I get the feeling she was in Rewrite only as comedic relief, not a true heroine like other 5 (including Kagari) were. It's still Chihaya's route and Chihaya is still considered a heroine but Sakuya took the whole spotlight. We will know nothing about Sakuya if we don't try to know Chihaya first. Just like Tohsaka Rin is still considered a heroine from F/SN. *cough* UBW *cough*. I know that. It seems I needed to explain more my first sentence >.< Anyway. Yes, Sakuya stole the spotlight from Chiyaha basically the moment he appeared. And I agree, it's still Chihaya route and she's still a heroine, but compared to the other heroine routes (DISCLAIMER: my feelings follow) she wasn't proactive enough. If we ignore romance moments (which are very nice, as in other routes, and hillarious when Sakuya interrupts them), only moment when Chihaya route truly felt as Chihaya route was the whole segment containing fight against Midou. However, I believe that Sakuya can be blamed for that XD As for comparsion with Rin... despite GARcher stealing the spotlight in UBW, Rin is actually active enough to be called the heroine. One of many examples (spoiler just in case): She fought Caster one on one and almost won ffs XD |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Oct 28, 2013 4:53 PM
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| 1. Plot holes. Oh god, the plot holes. It's as if the writers didn't know that they can gather round a table every week and discuss things with each other. It's like they sat down together once, to brief each other on the basic idea of the game and just went 'Alright, now get writing and I'll see you all back in five months, with your routes written! Off you go!' 2. Now, this is probably a little controversial, but the ending to Shizuru's route. He became. A fucking tree. What? I understand that this was heavily implied during Chihaya's route and has a symbolic meaning, but it felt so... Eh! It was kind of dumb. I didn't like it and it got to me in a weird way. 3. The total mind-fuckery of the plot. Like, it's too much. When something goes beyond Donnie Darko mind-fuck, you have to slow down a little. I still, to this day, have no idea what's truly going on in the game. Like, Terra was meant to be Kotorou's back-story, right? But then, how the fuck is Esaka still alive? I keep hearing all this stuff about time-travel, but that's something I just can't seem to find other than the fact that he has memories from the girl routes. So what, does his rewriting abilities allow him to rewrite time? Or are those just all those different branches that Kagari was working on? Is Terra just one of those? Does that mean that Kotarou had actually succeeded from the very beginning? What was the point of anything? I don't GET IT! >.< This could just be me being dumb and not being able to recall the VN correctly, but all of these things I'm practically clueless about. If some of you guys could perhaps fill me in on some stuff, that'd help. Cos I didn't get a damn thing :/ |
Oct 28, 2013 10:46 PM
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| ^ If you have some questions regarding to Terra, feel free to ask. Seano299 said: Like, Terra was meant to be Kotorou's back-story, right? But then, how the fuck is Esaka still alive? I The first half of Terra is Kotarou's past minus the desert part. If you truly want to know what actually happened before the events of Rewrite(Common Route up to heroines' routes), Kotarou tried to kill/capture Kagari but Kagari nearly killed him then Kotori saved him and Guardian used some memory-erasing drug on Kotarou so he'll forget everything about Guardian and Gaia. Esaka was only killed on the second half. Seano299 said: Does that mean that Kotarou had actually succeeded from the very beginning? No, he failed because like I said, he tried to kill/capture Kagari. That's why "let her go" is the correct option. The fact that he tried to kill/capture her is his mistake that he wanted to correct and that's why Terra route exist. |
Oct 29, 2013 4:18 AM
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Seano299 said: 3. The total mind-fuckery of the plot. Like, it's too much. When something goes beyond Donnie Darko mind-fuck, you have to slow down a little. I still, to this day, have no idea what's truly going on in the game. Like, Terra was meant to be Kotorou's back-story, right? But then, how the fuck is Esaka still alive? I keep hearing all this stuff about time-travel, but that's something I just can't seem to find other than the fact that he has memories from the girl routes. So what, does his rewriting abilities allow him to rewrite time? Or are those just all those different branches that Kagari was working on? Is Terra just one of those? Does that mean that Kotarou had actually succeeded from the very beginning? What was the point of anything? I don't GET IT! >.< This could just be me being dumb and not being able to recall the VN correctly, but all of these things I'm practically clueless about. If some of you guys could perhaps fill me in on some stuff, that'd help. Cos I didn't get a damn thing :/ I'm really itching on writing some walls of text and try to explain it all in one fell swoop. But that wouldn't be fun for everyone. Therefore: Tennouji_ said: ^ If you have some questions regarding to Terra, feel free to ask. And we'll be happy to explain it to the best of our ability, bit by bit ^^ |
Oct 29, 2013 5:05 AM
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Tennouji_ said: ^ If you have some questions regarding to Terra, feel free to ask. Seano299 said: Like, Terra was meant to be Kotorou's back-story, right? But then, how the fuck is Esaka still alive? I The first half of Terra is Kotarou's past minus the desert part. If you truly want to know what actually happened before the events of Rewrite(Common Route up to heroines' routes), Kotarou tried to kill/capture Kagari but Kagari nearly killed him then Kotori saved him and Guardian used some memory-erasing drug on Kotarou so he'll forget everything about Guardian and Gaia. Esaka was only killed on the second half. Seano299 said: Does that mean that Kotarou had actually succeeded from the very beginning? No, he failed because like I said, he tried to kill/capture Kagari. That's why "let her go" is the correct option. The fact that he tried to kill/capture her is his mistake that he wanted to correct and that's why Terra route exist. Right, so if I'm understanding this correctly, the start of everything was Terra when he tries to kill Kagari. Then begins the common route, doing all the different routes via time travel (because he thought he had been wasting time like he says in the intro, correct?) and then comes Moon, which is when that shit with the branches and stuff that Kagari was messing with to find a way to save Earth and humanity and then Kotarou would then travel through time again or something similar after leaving Kagari behind on the moon, as he was the solution to saving Earth and humanity, to do the rest of Terra? Which is when he meets Earth Kagari and lets her go and that's where the true end comes along? |
Oct 29, 2013 5:33 AM
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Seano299 said: Right, so if I'm understanding this correctly, the start of everything was Terra when he tries to kill Kagari. Then begins the common route, doing all the different routes via time travel (because he thought he had been wasting time like he says in the intro, correct?) and then comes Moon, which is when that shit with the branches and stuff that Kagari was messing with to find a way to save Earth and humanity and then Kotarou would then travel through time again or something similar after leaving Kagari behind on the moon, as he was the solution to saving Earth and humanity, to do the rest of Terra? Which is when he meets Earth Kagari and lets her go and that's where the true end comes along? Yes. |
Oct 29, 2013 5:39 AM
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Seano299 said: Right, so if I'm understanding this correctly, the start of everything was Terra when he tries to kill Kagari. Then begins the common route, doing all the different routes via time travel (because he thought he had been wasting time like he says in the intro, correct?) and then comes Moon, which is when that shit with the branches and stuff that Kagari was messing with to find a way to save Earth and humanity and then Kotarou would then travel through time again or something similar after leaving Kagari behind on the moon, as he was the solution to saving Earth and humanity, to do the rest of Terra? Which is when he meets Earth Kagari and lets her go and that's where the true end comes along? The 'wasting time' mentioned in the intro referred to the common route Kotarou. The 'normal' Kotarou who knows nothing of Gaia and Guardian. He simply wants to live a good life. He regrets to not have made steps to make real friends, joining a club, get a part-time job, in short: To live his life to the fullest before his youth is over. That wish is not related to anything supernatural. The 5 girl's routes aren't exaclty time travels. They are parallel worlds (caused by high density of Aurora). There are many more similar ones, for example there's a branch where Kotarou married an office lady he randomly hooked up with. In all of these routes, the earth eventually died due to its resources of Aurora getting exhausted. (The details of the following include the properties of Aurora, Moon and Earth. I'll skip those details for now to have you understand the basic structure of the story first) Moon Kagari gathered the data of all those worlds and tried to create a branch where the Aurora won't be exhausted and the Earth wouldn't die. A converged version of Kotarou (summoned for this purpose ) who retained all memories of all worlds helped her with her research. Kagari had determined that Kotarou would be her most suitable ally to complete the task of saving the Earth. Upon finding a branch that would enable life to continue on earth, Moon Kagari sends off Kotarou to make it happen. This is not exactly 'Time Travel' either, but that term makes it easier to understand. So now Terra route begins. This Kotarou did not retain any memories from other routes or Moon. However, he knows which choises he must make (even though he doesn't know what for). He had all the correct choices "programmed" into him, as well as Moon Kotarou's love for Kagari. In Terra, Kotarou does not attack Kagari, thus not entering the other routes/branches which have no chances of success. That way, he did not waste precious time lying in the hospital for several years. He becomes aware of the crisis the world faces and now he has more time and more options to prevent the end of Earth. |
Naoki-SatenOct 29, 2013 5:47 AM
Oct 29, 2013 5:54 AM
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Oct 29, 2013 6:28 AM
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Tennouji_ said: ^ Thanks for elaborating. ;D I also wanted to elaborate because he used some wrong terms such as time traveling but I'm too lazy. Well, at least I answered his very last question which I think that's what he's hoping for someone to answer that. Too lazy to elaborate? How come? I actually had a hard time holding back and not blurt it all out at once in full detail. On a different note, when this is over and done with and we have the full explanation, details included posted here, we might need a different topic to compile it. After all, it's not related to this topic... |
Oct 29, 2013 6:37 AM
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Naoki-Saten said: Too lazy to elaborate? How come? I actually had a hard time holding back and not blurt it all out at once in full detail. The moment he asks another question, there are some parts that I think he misunderstands which I need to clarify and explain it to him though I know you will do that better than me. Naoki-Saten said: On a different note, when this is over and done with and we have the full explanation, details included posted here, we might need a different topic to compile it. After all, it's not related to this topic... Actually, I can see every most of the answers here in the future will be all about plot-holes, mindfuck, etc though there are some that it can be explained and there are some that it can't like Kotarou having aurora flame but let's not touch that... |
Nov 1, 2013 5:57 AM
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Nov 1, 2013 6:11 AM
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Countach said: Rewrite has students at school as well... at least maybe 30% of it or so.For me - empty streets, empty environments, empty places. When I launched trial version in japanese (which I know little), I thought the story's gonna be about some unnatural disappearance of people :P Clannad and Kanon had nicer backgrounds, at least we could see students at school. |
Nov 2, 2013 10:10 AM
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| 1. Terra Route. Not only did this route throw away every likable character in the game in replacement of unlikable characters. It also created a million plot holes and made the first part of the game seem pointless. It's like Romeo thought he was writing a path that would fit his earlier works, but didn't pay attention to the kind of game Rewrite was. Basically Romeo just isn't fit for KEY works really (As Terra shares a lot of similarities with the final route in Cross Channel). Don't get me wrong the first half of Terra is good, but the second half is an utter mess. It's rushed and many of the actions Kotarou makes don't even make sense, yet he chooses to go through with them because of his invisible force guiding him. Let's not even mention how underdeveloped Kagari is and how their relationship is the most forced thing Key has ever done while still providing with an overly convienent ending. 2. The second half of Lucia's route. First half was great, second half seemed like it was jamming as much info as it could about guardian because they somehow needed to link Lucia's character to guardian even though none of the horror part even remotely mentions that part (Which is pointless because Terra restates what Lucia route does about guardian anyway). Overall the two parts feel completely disconnected from one another and make most of Lucia's actions make no sense. While the date was enjoyable, the ending was hilariously obnoxious and incredibly out of place. Kotarou is also written to be incredibly stupid in this route. Sometimes less is more and this route really could have benefited from being simpler. Also just like Higurashi....you can't put shounen fights in a route with horror elements, they are just so unfitting it's not even funny. Apparently ryukishi7 finished writing this route first and I can definitely tell, because it's obvious the other two wanted to forget that it had anything to do with the plot. 3. Shizuru's route. Just pointless for the most part. Shizuru doesn't have much depth to her character and hardly develops in this route. None of her problems are solved either (The whole thing with the parents anyone?). The only point of this route is the ending, which isn't bad actually but it's not worth dedicating an entire route to. Shizuru is a side character that is likeable but not worth heroine status. |
hyperknees91Nov 2, 2013 10:41 AM
Nov 3, 2013 3:14 AM
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Naoki-Saten said: So now Terra route begins. This Kotarou did not retain any memories from other routes or Moon. However, he knows which choises he must make (even though he doesn't know what for). He had all the correct choices "programmed" into him, as well as Moon Kotarou's love for Kagari. In Terra, Kotarou does not attack Kagari, thus not entering the other routes/branches which have no chances of success. That way, he did not waste precious time lying in the hospital for several years. He becomes aware of the crisis the world faces and now he has more time and more options to prevent the end of Earth. I would say that the Terra route is the route where he made every decision correct, not just that the fact that he didn't attack Kagari led to him eventually saving the Earth. It was implied in Moon that Kotarou entered a similiar route yet still failed to save the Earth. |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
Nov 3, 2013 2:40 PM
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| Off-Topic: I love your signature, Naoki. On: Well, there were a lot of things I didn't really like, but I'll mention three as the title says. First, I didn't really like that Lucia killed so much people and kept going on and on about not being worthy of being with Kotarou and stuff like that. It was really saddening :c Second... Shizuru's ending. Oh god, I hated it so much. I mean, Kotarou became a tree... I would have been fine with an ending were they could stay together (as a couple, not a gardener and a plant.) Third, that there wasn't any route for Touka! I would've loved it~ xDD (sorry, I just forgot what I was going to say for third :'c) |
Nov 6, 2013 9:53 AM
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| First, as said before, the plot inconstances which made the story even more complicated to fully understand, like no Chihaya in Akane's route, for instance. I'm also disapointed with Kotarou's parents' minor role. During Chihaya and Shizuru's common route, in a scene between Kotarou, Gil and Pani, he said he could'nt finish a game involving a choice between his father's life or a friend's. I thought this was going to have a point later in the plot, somewhere near the end of the true route, but no. Instead, both his mom and his dad sacrifice themselves with no words wereas they haven't seen their son for years. How could this be more anticlimatic ? I cant' bear with the anticlimatic ending either. Terra started great, I enjoyed a lot the discovery of Kotarou's past but then, this lead nowhere. I mean, the end was fine, but that's all. No climax, not even love, just a Kotarou reconverted to a toy names Pocchi (is it really better than Shizuru's route's tree ?) going to the moon with the girls. Waoh. Bonus : The Earth Dragon taking a walk during Terra's route. Just NO. |
ze1151154Nov 6, 2013 10:50 AM
Nov 28, 2013 5:37 PM
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| As stated before, I´d rather not point out bad facts about this VN in particular, but: 1 - Kotarou´s incosistent personality, this has to do with different writers for different routes; 2 - The romance of Kotarou and Kagari didn´t seem as true to me as most other heroines. For some reason, I felt really sad the way their romance ended; 3 - While I enjoyed Terra alot (enough to give it a 9,5/10), I would change some stuff, though not too much. I would like it to have been as memorable as Moon, which in my opinion wasn´t. |
Jul 23, 2015 7:02 AM
#33
| I just have 1 thing to dislike: Anyone who badmouth my waifu. Well actually I'm not dislike anything particulary about Rewrite.It does have flaw but not enough to make me dislike it. |
Sep 16, 2015 12:08 PM
#34
| The whole terra scenario was sad. At the very least he should be able to have reunited with moon kagari. But i guess since he lives forever now, there will be a time they will meet again once the moon somewhat regenerates. But i can't help remembering how it was said that each earth kagari was a different person entirely, shouldn't this also apply to the moon? Why did Koutarou initially want to go further than the moon? I didn't get that part. I thought the moon was his destination so that he could meet moon kagari again. And what on earth is he planning to do with the girls? This ending felt way too rushed and made absolutely no sense, or at the very least gave no closure. |
Sep 24, 2015 8:15 PM
#35
Stormen said: The whole terra scenario was sad. At the very least he should be able to have reunited with moon kagari. But i guess since he lives forever now, there will be a time they will meet again once the moon somewhat regenerates. But i can't help remembering how it was said that each earth kagari was a different person entirely, shouldn't this also apply to the moon? Why did Koutarou initially want to go further than the moon? I didn't get that part. I thought the moon was his destination so that he could meet moon kagari again. And what on earth is he planning to do with the girls? This ending felt way too rushed and made absolutely no sense, or at the very least gave no closure. I don't think the ending is rush and make no sense at all.I have to absolutely disagree with you at that. About the part Each earth kagari was a different person entirely I think it's mean each different route=> different world=>different Kagari for example the Kotarou from Kotori route is different from Chihaya 's one and the Chihaya 's one is different to another...that 's all. Kotarou's wish is always want to meet Moon Kagari again.The part he said he could go further than the moon is Kotarou explaining what his Power capable of it 's not that's he want to go further.=>you just confused thing. And about the part what on earth is he planning to do with the girls i think he doesn't plan anything particularly, he just take them together with him to meeat moon Kagari again and that's all.I mean those Girls also one of the most precious people to him.And remember his Wish at the end of the moon :"if anyone ever reach the sky....I want them to find the girl on the moon...find the girl all crouchng by herself...I want them to walk up to her...That is...my only wish..." |
illogicalmanSep 24, 2015 8:20 PM
Sep 27, 2015 4:47 AM
#36
Tenyasha said: 1 - Kotarou´s incosistent personality, this has to do with different writers for different routes; This may be way too late to reply but oh well. Anyway, isn't that the good part? That he has many versions of himself. I don't think it's a flaw. Different timelines, basically means you can be a different person on a different timeline. I think it makes zero sense if his personality still remains on all timelines. |
Sep 27, 2015 1:57 PM
#37
Tennouji_ said: Tenyasha said: 1 - Kotarou´s incosistent personality, this has to do with different writers for different routes; This may be way too late to reply but oh well. Anyway, isn't that the good part? That he has many versions of himself. I don't think it's a flaw. Different timelines, basically means you can be a different person on a different timeline. I think it makes zero sense if his personality still remains on all timelines. Indeed, over the past 2 years I've changed my mind regarding this. I now think he maintained his "core" personality, and his different actions and ideals actually make sense considering the context of each route. |
Sep 27, 2015 6:56 PM
#38
| I'm pretty late too xD but since the anime got announced i'l add my two cents 1. Terra was very underwhelming towards the last 3/4. Was hoping for a huge battle or something like from the Moon opening 2. Terra's lack of CGs. (this could play a part in why it was underwhelming; not seeing what's going on or anything) 3. The length overall; was pretty long. I can't think of anything right now but I'm sure there's things they didn't need to include/elaborate on (Pani and Gil anyone?) |
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Sep 28, 2015 6:06 PM
#39
| Gonna update my list, as it's been 2 years and I changed my perspective on a lot of stuff. 1 - Terra's romance. Now, it was programmed and that was clearly obvious,I don't think it's a writing problem, it just left a somewhat bad taste in my mouth. 2 - Problems of logic inbetween routes. Nothing that really annoyed me to the point where I thought it was groundbreaking, as I always took the routes as standalones, but it's definitely something that the authors could have easily checked, it was lazy on their part. 3 - The common route. I've enjoyed some long comedy-based common routes before, like Grisaia's, but not in Rewrite, it felt really dragged out and I never got into it. Plus the only character I liked there was Akane. Fortunately, it was worth reading to get to the juicy parts. I didn't have the problem with Terra's second half that many people did, at all, though I definitely understand why you'd have it. |
Sep 29, 2015 4:55 PM
#40
| 1. Plot holes in character routes 2. Lack of sprites for so many decently important characters which is just lazyness on keys part 3. The ending to Terra could have been better. |
Oct 1, 2015 3:46 AM
#41
Midou89 said: 1. Plot holes in character routes 2. Lack of sprites for so many decently important characters which is just lazyness on keys part 3. The ending to Terra could have been better. I saw that Inoue got a sprite for the newest release for the PSP game at least... I agree with you. It's fun to see them all for the first time in the anime now though ^^ |
Jun 12, 2016 6:07 AM
#42
Ruben_Jb said: I saw that Inoue got a sprite for the newest release for the PSP game at least... I agree with you. It's fun to see them all for the first time in the anime now though ^^ I think she got one in HF, too. However I also agree, including the part with the "fun seeing them in the anime" :D. To my list (sorry I am so late with all of these, it took me a while to find out about Rewrite, as I have not been that deep into VN before): 1. As many before me stated, Terra. Its the True Route, but it just does not feel anything like I expected (or still do expect from a true route). I'd accepted something along the oppai ending, but more serious (so, less oppai I guess?), as an True Ending. 2. Lack of Sprites in the Gallery section. I don't know if other VN have that, in fact Rewrite was my second VN that was not a freeware hobby project of a random guy, so I can't really tell, but I wished for a sprite section in the gallery, but there wasn't. Hell, I don't care if this is common or not, I feel like VN should have it, character sprites are more important then the BGs. 3. there could have been more characters sprited or voiced. I guess that's mostly a money issue and I get it, but I'd still have liked it, but I also understand it. BONUS: plot holes (and I was fine with inconsistancies in between the routes [Kotarous different involvement turning out into a big butterfly effect is fine for me], but there were a few things that felt like foreshadowing but weren't ever been spoken about, I've pointed 2 big ones out in the plot questions thread) |
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