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Apr 23, 2009 4:37 PM

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giganoBrago said:

computers better^_^ lol the thing is lots of people dont wanna ave to pay for it when they can get it for free, its the way to "stick it to the man"


FUNi streams for free and people still complain.

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Apr 23, 2009 4:52 PM

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giganoBrago said:
computers better^_^ lol the thing is lots of people dont wanna ave to pay for it when they can get it for free, its the way to "stick it to the man"

And the real truth of the matter comes out. Sure free is nice. I like free too, but I also like anime and I want more anime in the future, so I don't mind spending money on something I like. But I guess I'm a dying a breed.

And the hilarious thing is, as Splitter pointed out above, Funi is giving lots of their anime away for free! Subbed and dubbed even! And people still spit in their eye and flip them a bird for it.

Splitter said:
Diagnosis: Fansub watchers are jackass douchebags who have no right calling themselves "fans".

*claps* Harsh, but true well said, my friend, well said.
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-Jenny said:
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people just like subs, it cant be helped^_^

Umm, so do I? Liking subs isn't an excuse, since DVDs always have a subtitle track.

Why do people insist on ignoring this detail? It's like no one has ever actually held an official anime DVD before and just repeat the same uninformed bullcrap over and over again. >.>


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Kuyukly said:
Welcome to my world.

*pat pat* I know. I've actually been in this world for a long time, I've just not been as vocal about it as I have been today (but that might change now LOL)
Apr 23, 2009 5:26 PM

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Arcadies said:
WTH Funi?? What are they doing trolling our watch list and going "Hmm We're going to License that one, and that one and ...."


They're trying to appeal to you. They're putting out official legit subs days after they air in Japan. You disgrace the fandom by yelling at them for trying to keep the business alive. Or would you just like anime to die altogether?

Don't get me wrong, I understand what they are trying to do, but they say that they are going to run it immediately after the airing in Japan. That would be cool. But lets see if they can back up their words with the timetables they are claiming.
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-Jenny said:
Kuyukly said:
Welcome to my world.

*pat pat* I know. I've actually been in this world for a long time, I've just not been as vocal about it as I have been today (but that might change now LOL)


Agreed. When fansubs became popular it was a way to say to the companies "this is what we want; anime as it's airing in Japan. We don't want to wait a year for it any longer." and though it took a little while, they heard us and they're responding to our needs like any good business does for it's customer base.

If you told the fans of five years ago about what was happening today, they'd cream themselves no doubt, but the "fans" of today... they don't care. They're finding new excuses now to get their anime from illegal sources. I mean, when the companies are bending this far back for us, and people are still making excuses, that's when the time for politeness ends.
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Apr 23, 2009 6:23 PM

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Randomly, according to ANN the fourth episode actually got streamed BEFORE it was broadcast on Japanese TV. Wowzers.

sneakums said:
Are they trying to be like crunchyroll? No wonder a lot of fansubbing group has disbanded. I missed the good old days... though its only been 3 years. hehe

Mmmm, tapesubs... :p

Speaking of tapesubs, I wish there was a way to give stuff like this to the anime fandom back then instead. They would actually appreciate it.

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Splitter said:
I can't speak for others, but video quality isn't of the highest importance for me. I don't notice the difference and I really wonder how many people who yell about video quality do. I mean, this isn't early years Youtube here. Streaming has come a long way.

I don't really have problems with the other aspects of this discussion, and I can't really make comments about translations (though I would hope it's good), but streaming hasn't come far enough.
As it had been a few months since I had taken a look at the streaming options I decided to make another assessment. I have to ask, are you comparing this to HD anime or something broadcast in SD which you then expanded to fullscreen? It was apparent at my first glance that it wasn't as good, but then again, some people are content to listen to 128kbs mp3 rips with the earbuds that came with their iPod. Also, while I'm not going to demand that they have all the flashy effects that fansubs do, it completely lacked a translation for the OP. The lyrics for those songs are often relevant to the anime so I don't think that you can just toss it to the side.
Moving on past my comments about the video, the connection speed is horrible and as the speedtest I just ran gave me a download speed over 13 Mb/s, the problem isn't on my end. Of course, this is fairly understandable given the current time of day, but it has been more than a half hour since I opened that page and the episode isn't even at 25% yet.
If you are fine with this, then go ahead, but I think I'll wait a little longer before I consider switching from fansubs.
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You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

Oh and Funi has this little thing called Download to Own, you have to pay money(OH MY GOD), but you get to watch it and it is not streamed.

Oh and dattebayo's subs were not more accurate than Viz's don't even go there.
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I don't know... but this stream being able only on the States is completely unfair and lame.... We love fansubs... yeah... but we have to understand this stuff is a big business and they have to attack it the best way they can, licensing shows and trying to buy them later.... Complaints are good... but trolling and hating the company is not what we should do.... It's difficult to decide.... but at least we have an official sub right? WHile dubs stay out of our way eveything's alright... At least for me....

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Kuyukly said:
(FUNimation hasn't censored or edited a single anime in years. Do some research, you'll see I'm right.)


Except One Piece. (Sanji's cigarettes have been cut completely IIRC)
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Cheh. Living in NZ when internet fails and streaming more so.
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3rr0R said:
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Licensing hate is there because people hate dubs and forget the fact that they're not being forced to watch the dub. (It's not there for you. It's there for the people who will appreciate and enjoy it. DVDs always have two audio tracks for this reason.)
Exactly why I don't understand the hate. The original Japanese audio is still there for the people who dislike dubs. However, I will admit the subtitle fonts on dvds are hideous. That's one area where fansubs have an advantage.
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Simple:
FUNi licences anime X
FUNi starts to warn, and threaten the subbers with lawsuit
of course they just provide stream in US
Europeans, South-Americns, etc, can't watch the series (subbed)
That's why...

Still not a real reason to hate them, everyone ends up finding means to watch the series that was licensed anyways. That and Funimation is a US licensing company so their license only covers North America which makes sense.
Exactly! In my 5-6 years of watching fansubbed anime, there has never been an instance where I had to drop a show because of lack of subs due to a license.


Bit more empathy please
It's more of a problem for the subbers. It can be pretty hard to get out of reach of FUNi and until that, no new subbed episodes for us... And there aren't too many good quality sub-groups either
Dunno, does this means already, that the current "best" subgroup has to drop it, and if does, who's gonna sub it, at such a good quality? I guess, we'll just wait

There wouldn't be any FUNi hate, if it would just leave the subgroups alone. Americans go FUNi, Europeans and others get fansubs
It's jut not right to deny the right/opportunity from other regions outer America, to watch subbed anime
Show me someone who has a legitimate reason to hate anime licensing, then I'll show some empathy. Until that happens I couldn't care less. Sorry.
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I notice this for the last 2 episode of Phantom as I tried to upload on a certain site. As the 2nd episode came out, every video were delete. Oh well, I got the answer now who license it.

But they should have license K-ON! =D *no offends people... but if Funi want to gain attention for good sell, then, just take K-ON!*

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I can't speak for others, but video quality isn't of the highest importance for me. I don't notice the difference and I really wonder how many people who yell about video quality do. I mean, this isn't early years Youtube here. Streaming has come a long way.

I don't really have problems with the other aspects of this discussion, and I can't really make comments about translations (though I would hope it's good), but streaming hasn't come far enough.
As it had been a few months since I had taken a look at the streaming options I decided to make another assessment. I have to ask, are you comparing this to HD anime or something broadcast in SD which you then expanded to fullscreen? It was apparent at my first glance that it wasn't as good, but then again, some people are content to listen to 128kbs mp3 rips with the earbuds that came with their iPod. Also, while I'm not going to demand that they have all the flashy effects that fansubs do, it completely lacked a translation for the OP. The lyrics for those songs are often relevant to the anime so I don't think that you can just toss it to the side.
Moving on past my comments about the video, the connection speed is horrible and as the speedtest I just ran gave me a download speed over 13 Mb/s, the problem isn't on my end. Of course, this is fairly understandable given the current time of day, but it has been more than a half hour since I opened that page and the episode isn't even at 25% yet.
If you are fine with this, then go ahead, but I think I'll wait a little longer before I consider switching from fansubs.


I agree with you there! Though I wants to added more reason, but since I have bad grammar etc.. I'll just shut up.
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Splitter said:
Agreed. When fansubs became popular it was a way to say to the companies "this is what we want; anime as it's airing in Japan. We don't want to wait a year for it any longer." and though it took a little while, they heard us and they're responding to our needs like any good business does for it's customer base.

If you told the fans of five years ago about what was happening today, they'd cream themselves no doubt, but the "fans" of today... they don't care. They're finding new excuses now to get their anime from illegal sources. I mean, when the companies are bending this far back for us, and people are still making excuses, that's when the time for politeness ends.

Exactly. I've grown so angry and fed up with the attitude of modern fandom that it gets harder and harder to keep my silence (am I'm a rather shy person). I mean, let's be honest here: Funimation could offer super HD quality video, subtitled with flashy fonts complete with all the necessary weaboo speak that can't possibly be translated into understandable English ONII-CHAN!!, have the most sparkly awesome karaoke OP and ED ever (the very thought makes me nauseous), and offer it world-wide and downloadable for free and people would still make excuses and turn to illegal sources, which would still exist, of course. And it's that entitled mindset that turns me away from anime fandom more than anything else these days. The fans of five years ago (and even more so earlier) would have indeed creamed themselves and more importantly, they would have actually appreciated the effort that Funimation is showing in trying to bring the fans what they are asking for, to get anime as fast as the Japanese get anime. Fans these days just don't care. How times have changed. =(
Anomalous said:

Mmmm, tapesubs... :p
Speaking of tapesubs, I wish there was a way to give stuff like this to the anime fandom back then instead. They would actually appreciate it.

In a funny way, I actually miss tapesubs (and I still have some sitting in the bottom of my closet LOL). Those were the days~

Man, when I first got into anime and it was a struggle to find and actually get to watch anything that was not butchered on TV (and I really mean butchered), if you had told me that a decade from now that I would see simultaneous broadcasts of anime, subtitled and available for free, I would have laughed in your face. XP
mitamaking said:
You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

This. I really, really wish fansubbers would spent more time on things that really will never see the light of day anywhere outside of Japan instead of 10 or 15 groups all releasing K-ON, FMA:B, and Eden of the East. But that sort of stuff doesn't get downloaded much or even looked at, thus not worth 99% of fansubber's time. =/ And from my perspective, the so called "ideals" or "code of honor" that fansubbers operated under died out ages ago.

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Except One Piece. (Sanji's cigarettes have been cut completely IIRC)

The TV broadcast was edited, but the DVDs are uncut.
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mitamaking said:
You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

See, this is another thing I don't get. There's no advantage to watching the newest series except that they're what everybody is talking about. If the only things that got fansubbed were older or more obscure... people would talk about those instead. So why not just switch over to fansubbing old series? Instead of a handful of series available in a ton of different ways and translations, you have everything available in some way. And as a fan of shoujo, world masterpiece theatre, and pre-2000 anime, this would make me a happy girl.

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Mmmm, tapesubs... :p
Speaking of tapesubs, I wish there was a way to give stuff like this to the anime fandom back then instead. They would actually appreciate it.

In a funny way, I actually miss tapesubs (and I still have some sitting in the bottom of my closet LOL). Those were the days~

I actually wasn't around for that era, but I sometimes wish I was. Fan were so passionate about anime since there was so little available and you had to enjoy what you could get.

...And I think tapesubbers had better taste in series then a lot of digisubbers. *hugs Romeo no Aoi Sora VHS rips*

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ghostphace said:
]Show me someone who has a legitimate reason to hate anime licensing, then I'll show some empathy. Until that happens I couldn't care less. Sorry.

I don't happen to dislike anime licensing.

I just wish, sometimes, that the internet wasn't so damn anonymous and that companies could prosecute downloaders of shows which are licensed in their country without blocking content for everyone else.

There goes another show I might have watched, if only I could get access to it.
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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I actually wasn't around for that era, but I sometimes wish I was. Fan were so passionate about anime since there was so little available and you had to enjoy what you could get.

...And I think tapesubbers had better taste in series then a lot of digisubbers. *hugs Romeo no Aoi Sora VHS rips*

I caught the tail end of it, and even then, I didn't do any trading, I just bought the tapes from the distro and paid for the shipping. (That's right, kids! Back in the day, you even had to pay money to get fansubs! *gasp*) But even so, what little I managed to get my hands I loved so much and appreciated the fact that I got to watch them. I still love those tapes so much I don't have the heart to throw out the ones that I now own on DVD. XP

And I have to agree about taste. I remember pouring through tape lists and not being able to make up my mind what I wanted (and now I kick myself for not getting them, since unless people ripped the tapes or the series was later licensed, most of them can't be found on the internet). And I actually really liked the quality that old school subbers put into their translations and the fact they tried so hard to make their releases as professional as possible. (And I really need to watch that series at some point... it's on my endless list of things I need to watch, LOL)
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SlaughterChichi said:
Except One Piece. (Sanji's cigarettes have been cut completely IIRC)


If you want to complain about One Piece editing you should direct it towards 4Kids Entertainment. They're the ones responsible for all the edits/omission/etc. in the TV broadcast. Funimation releases One Piece on DVD uncut.

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There goes another show I might have watched, if only I could get access to it.
Why wouldn't you be able to watch it? Not every group is going to drop it. And if they do someone else will pick it up.
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holy shit
this is my fave show this season
i will buy it after watch the whole show. DAMMIT !!!
grrrrrrr i lose one show again to watch every week now
n i can't access this FUNNY Stream !!!
ok FUNNY, it's your fault you don't get money from my wallet.

FUCK FUNNYMATION !
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-Jenny said:
mitamaking said:
You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

This. I really, really wish fansubbers would spent more time on things that really will never see the light of day anywhere outside of Japan instead of 10 or 15 groups all releasing K-ON, FMA:B, and Eden of the East. But that sort of stuff doesn't get downloaded much or even looked at, thus not worth 99% of fansubber's time. =/ And from my perspective, the so called "ideals" or "code of honor" that fansubbers operated under died out ages ago.


Heh, I agree completely. There's even a "SUBS FUCKING WHERE!" club on MAL. I'd like it if a few groups went in and cleared the shows in the relations list, as would everyone else in that club. >_>
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Kuyukly said:
-Jenny said:
mitamaking said:
You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

This. I really, really wish fansubbers would spent more time on things that really will never see the light of day anywhere outside of Japan instead of 10 or 15 groups all releasing K-ON, FMA:B, and Eden of the East. But that sort of stuff doesn't get downloaded much or even looked at, thus not worth 99% of fansubber's time. =/ And from my perspective, the so called "ideals" or "code of honor" that fansubbers operated under died out ages ago.


Heh, I agree completely. There's even a "SUBS FUCKING WHERE!" club on MAL. I'd like it if a few groups went in and cleared the shows in the relations list, as would everyone else in that club. >_>
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-Jenny said:
mitamaking said:
You know my dream is with companies licensing new shows fansub groups will not just release the stuff getting uploaded to legal sites but instead go back and sub old shows, or second teir shows, we don't need 10 groups doing FMA2 for example, I would love to see fansub groups do smaller shows, so they live up to one of fansubs "ideals" and try to drum up support for shows.

This. I really, really wish fansubbers would spent more time on things that really will never see the light of day anywhere outside of Japan instead of 10 or 15 groups all releasing K-ON, FMA:B, and Eden of the East. But that sort of stuff doesn't get downloaded much or even looked at, thus not worth 99% of fansubber's time. =/ And from my perspective, the so called "ideals" or "code of honor" that fansubbers operated under died out ages ago.


Heh, I agree completely. There's even a "SUBS FUCKING WHERE!" club on MAL. I'd like it if a few groups went in and cleared the shows in the relations list, as would everyone else in that club. >_>


Agreed, most of the ideals that fansubbers once held are long gone now as hardly any of them try and sub shows that get less attention. There supposedly needs to be as many groups as possible to sub a show that was probably popular and hyped up way before its release.

I thought the whole point of fansubbing was to get shows that otherwise wouldn't be picked up outside of Japan out there? That seemed to be the way it was when it first started out through distribution of VHS tapes....now it seems to have completely changed.
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Why wouldn't you be able to watch it? Not every group is going to drop it. And if they do someone else will pick it up.

So far the only group that hasn't dropped it is Menclave, and their tracker site says that it will comply fully with and C&D letters.
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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Yet another group has picked it up and put out the first two eps.
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Yet another group has picked it up and put out the first two eps.

Mind saying just which group it is?
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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Except One Piece. (Sanji's cigarettes have been cut completely IIRC)


If you want to complain about One Piece editing you should direct it towards 4Kids Entertainment. They're the ones responsible for all the edits/omission/etc. in the TV broadcast. Funimation releases One Piece on DVD uncut.


I wasn't complaining in particular, I was just pointing out an example of the editing FUNi had done that I was aware of. I know the atrocities 4kids did to the show, and it is far far worse. In comparison, cutting out cigarettes is nothing.
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FUNimation Acquires The Finger



This.

Hopefully will get subbed anyway. They sure like to make my anime viewing harder, wankers.




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KuroNoMango said:
De-JaY said:
FUNimation Acquires The Finger



This.

Hopefully will get subbed anyway. They sure like to make my anime viewing harder, wankers.





You foreign people are the only ones who have the right to complain, that and how many anime are actually in Finnish?
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turkeymeister said:
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Yet another group has picked it up and put out the first two eps.

Mind saying just which group it is?
No, because I'm paranoid. Besides you're not even watching Phantom anyway.
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It's nice to see more efforts are being made to simulcast more new titles this season.

I've been interested in Phantom for a while, I just never got around to starting it.

Legal streams it is, then!

In regards to the whole debate, Splitter, Jenny and other have said pretty much whatever I have to say on the subject, so I have nothing else to say on the matter, at the moment.
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I watched it on their site and I think it's great. Easy way to get legal subs, but I'm in NA so I don't need to complain.
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ghostphace said:
turkeymeister said:
ghostphace said:
Yet another group has picked it up and put out the first two eps.

Mind saying just which group it is?
No, because I'm paranoid. Besides you're not even watching Phantom anyway.

Your attitude is offensive and your bluff, pathetic.

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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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turkeymeister said:
ghostphace said:
turkeymeister said:
ghostphace said:
Yet another group has picked it up and put out the first two eps.

Mind saying just which group it is?
No, because I'm paranoid. Besides you're not even watching Phantom anyway.

Your attitude is offensive and your bluff, pathetic.


He's right. A new group did pick up this anime and has posted the first 2 eps.
If you don't know where to look this that your own problem.
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He's right. A new group did pick up this anime and has posted the first 2 eps.
If you don't know where to look this that your own problem.
I am sorry, I'm not too well versed in the arts of searching for illegal downloads. Perhaps that reflects something...

In any case, I heard from my friend that it's Nekomimi.

Hurr, looks like that I just might be able to watch it after all.
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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As long as they don't get the most popular title of the season then I don't care what they license. Even if it's licensed there would always be a group out there who will fansub what this FUNimation licenses.

FUNimation has a retarded name. They make the anime that they license sound like kids' stuff.

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Unregistered00 said:
As long as they don't get the most popular title of the season then I don't care what they license. Even if it's licensed there would always be a group out there who will fansub what this FUNimation licenses.

FUNimation has a retarded name. They make the anime that they license sound like kids' stuff.


They did start with Dragonball. And when you only have a shounen jump anime, sounding like a kids' company makes sense.

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Unregistered00 said:
As long as they don't get the most popular title of the season then I don't care what they license. Even if it's licensed there would always be a group out there who will fansub what this FUNimation licenses.

FUNimation has a retarded name. They make the anime that they license sound like kids' stuff.



That's what they started as, a company for Kids animes like DBZ. It's only been over the last few years have they began going for more variety. ADV has always been the more variety company.
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That's what they started as, a company for Kids animes like DBZ. It's only been over the last few years have they began going for more variety. ADV has always been the more variety company.

The last few years? They've went for variety farther back than that. Funimation started branching out from their "norm" back in 2002 when they licensed and released Fruits Basket, which was a complete 360 to what they were known for. I remember this quite clearly, since everyone on the internet was like, "Funimation gets Fruits Basket?! Why would they do that?! They'll totally ruin it like they did DBZ!!" And to prove everyone wrong, they did a pretty damn good job on Fruits Basket and have been on their titles ever since.

Sooo... yeah, just wanted to point that out. =)
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ShadowAlex said:
That's what they started as, a company for Kids animes like DBZ. It's only been over the last few years have they began going for more variety. ADV has always been the more variety company.

The last few years? They've went for variety farther back than that. Funimation started branching out from their "norm" back in 2002 when they licensed and released Fruits Basket, which was a complete 360 to what they were known for. I remember this quite clearly, since everyone on the internet was like, "Funimation gets Fruits Basket?! Why would they do that?! They'll totally ruin it like they did DBZ!!" And to prove everyone wrong, they did a pretty damn good job on Fruits Basket and have been on their titles ever since.

Sooo... yeah, just wanted to point that out. =)


Right I did watch the commentary by Justin Cook when he pointed it out. And yeah Fruba is my all time favorite dub by them.
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I hope they're going to be putting it out on DVD because I want to be able to own and watch it whenever I want without my internet being cut off, otherwise they might as well not license it at all if they can't make any money off of it while people just download via bittorrent or direct download

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I was trying to see if I could still watch Pantom even though I am in Australia.

I like the fact that Funimation now releases there DVD's subbed and dubbed because I like to watch both. My only problem is that the DVD sets are so expensive I hate having to pay $75 - $100 dollars for every DVD set that I get. It usually costs about $30 per volume when they are released and usually takes a long time after they are released in America before they are released over here. If I really like a show that I watched subbed I like to buy them when they are released on DVD.

I don't have a problem with watching Pantom streamed (as long as I can get access to it) since I watch Code Geass season 1 dubbed streamed on ABC Iview (Australian Broad Casting) every week when it is released.
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people just like subs, it cant be helped^_^

Umm, so do I? Liking subs isn't an excuse, since DVDs always have a subtitle track.

Why do people insist on ignoring this detail? It's like no one has ever actually held an official anime DVD before and just repeat the same uninformed bullcrap over and over again. >.>

computers better^_^ lol the thing is lots of people dont wanna ave to pay for it when they can get it for free, its the way to "stick it to the man"


......You have no idea how much i hate you for saying that.

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Diagnosis: Fansub watchers are jackass douchebags who have no right calling themselves "fans".


And you are awesome,i watch the anime subbed but only if its still airing and has not been realesed to the USA yet when it has i buy it.I hate people who don't support the company.
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I with FUNimation would acquire SUBS ON THEIR YOUTUBE CHANNEL.

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There wouldn't be any FUNi hate, if it would just leave the subgroups alone. Americans go FUNi, Europeans and others get fansubs
It's jut not right to deny the right from other regions outer America, to watch subbed anime

Again, Funimation is a US licensing company, their licenses don't extend past North America so they can not offer it anywhere else. It's not that they are denying you anime it's that they can't distribute it outside of their region.

I do however empathize with you about the subs but I really can't see it as a reason to hate them. Maybe, if I lived elsewhere where anime wasn't as available as it is here in NA I would feel the same but I do see the reason why they go after sub groups and I imagine any other company would do the same if they felt it would effect their company in a negative way.

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also if the company that licences the show starts to sub it they use absolutly no japanese in the subs (noteing viz subbing naruto) which alot of words lose some of there meaning when translated directly into english

so damn you funimation

Err, I own a good number of DVDs and a few of them do use Japanese in the subs, my Mushi-shi dvds (licensed by Funimation)being a good example of this as a good majority of the Japanese words are kept intact in both the dub and the sub.


Why is there hate also for Funi, even though they send license only for NA, they do tend to send C&D to every subgroup including those out of NA reach. Add to that that fact is that about more then 50% of sub groups of english subtitles is originating from NA. This is not a fact but a mere guess that i have based on all subgroups and those who post where they are from.

Protecting the company from getting negative profits is nice and i support that whole heartedly, but dominating the market liek they do i see it as wanting to own everything that an anime fan wants and sell it at high ridiculous prices for some profit, this is a reason why people watch anime on the net, because it is free , well you pay your internet provider for it. If they would sell it at lower prices and the production costs stays the same their profit margin could increase by the lower pricings so that there can be a larger public to buy it

So yeh European, African, Eastern people are basicly screwed thanks to Funi licensing the NA... Hate me for hating that. However do not tell me that I don't pay for what i watch, next to watching new shows on the computer I do have a case full of bought DVD's, some imported because i had no other choice but to to watch them, others not.
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Balto said:
Capellabun said:
3rr0R said:

There wouldn't be any FUNi hate, if it would just leave the subgroups alone. Americans go FUNi, Europeans and others get fansubs
It's jut not right to deny the right from other regions outer America, to watch subbed anime

Again, Funimation is a US licensing company, their licenses don't extend past North America so they can not offer it anywhere else. It's not that they are denying you anime it's that they can't distribute it outside of their region.

I do however empathize with you about the subs but I really can't see it as a reason to hate them. Maybe, if I lived elsewhere where anime wasn't as available as it is here in NA I would feel the same but I do see the reason why they go after sub groups and I imagine any other company would do the same if they felt it would effect their company in a negative way.

giganoBrago said:

also if the company that licences the show starts to sub it they use absolutly no japanese in the subs (noteing viz subbing naruto) which alot of words lose some of there meaning when translated directly into english

so damn you funimation

Err, I own a good number of DVDs and a few of them do use Japanese in the subs, my Mushi-shi dvds (licensed by Funimation)being a good example of this as a good majority of the Japanese words are kept intact in both the dub and the sub.


Why is there hate also for Funi, even though they send license only for NA, they do tend to send C&D to every subgroup including those out of NA reach. Add to that that fact is that about more then 50% of sub groups of english subtitles is originating from NA. This is not a fact but a mere guess that i have based on all subgroups and those who post where they are from.

Protecting the company from getting negative profits is nice and i support that whole heartedly, but dominating the market liek they do i see it as wanting to own everything that an anime fan wants and sell it at high ridiculous prices for some profit, this is a reason why people watch anime on the net, because it is free , well you pay your internet provider for it. If they would sell it at lower prices and the production costs stays the same their profit margin could increase by the lower pricings so that there can be a larger public to buy it

So yeh European, African, Eastern people are basicly screwed thanks to Funi licensing the NA... Hate me for hating that. However do not tell me that I don't pay for what i watch, next to watching new shows on the computer I do have a case full of bought DVD's, some imported because i had no other choice but to to watch them, others not.


If it were up to them I'm sure they would license outside of North America. But of course they can't. One it would take a tremendous more amount of money to do so, not to mention Japan also has to give the go to distribute in those Markets. FUNi is for NA, if you feel you are getting the cheap end of the deal, then FUNi is not the one to bitch too, it's the Japanese producers.

And one case hardly gives you any justification to say that "you still buy your anime." if the ratio is 99/1
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For the people who live outside North america you can always use the internet the too buy your dvds by funi.They have subs you know. -.-

As for airing anime lol,well there obviously is some places you can look too find them your just too stupid. >_>
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