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Dec 28, 2013 5:01 PM

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oh shit i never knew about the MJ one

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Dec 28, 2013 5:30 PM

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Wecc said:
Only one man can solve this problem

To be honest i stopped caring about the top rated part of mal.


I think you mean this guy.

NotJizzyHitler said:
See look, if even for a second we saved this god awful thread to something way more entertaining


It's fun, isn't it. I'm just tired of the complaining so let's make it worthwhile.

Dec 28, 2013 5:33 PM

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bunny_lover said:
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Smells like fanboyism to me.


Why don't you go watch the series instead of making stupid comments like this?


which part of this is stupid? I offered my opinion based on what I know ... you know, just because you are a fanboy/girl doesn't mean you have to hate on every comment that didn't praise gintama...


How exactly do you know it's just fanboyism? If you haven't watched something, you can't know whether it's good or bad.

Personally I haven't watched Gintama and I don't have any desire to do so, however that doesn't mean I'm able to just make stupid assumptions about a series that actually does receive quite a bit of praise from not only hardcore fans of the series, but other people who've simply enjoyed it.
Dec 28, 2013 5:36 PM

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Support the group by franchise suggestion, we can change the world.
Dec 28, 2013 5:38 PM

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We should wait for another Gintama season, I'm sure it will be high in the rankings real soon and I approve it.
Dec 28, 2013 5:40 PM

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Miketyson555 said:


How exactly do you know it's just fanboyism? If you haven't watched something, you can't know whether it's good or bad.

Personally I haven't watched Gintama and I don't have any desire to do so, however that doesn't mean I'm able to just make stupid assumptions about a series that actually does receive quite a bit of praise from not only hardcore fans of the series, but other people who've simply enjoyed it.


Why can't more people be like this guy?


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I know right? It must really be something.
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IntroverTurtle said:
Support the group by franchise suggestion, we can change the world.
Where do I sign up?
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Reverb_Shock said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Support the group by franchise suggestion, we can change the world.
Where do I sign up?
I think on the suggestions board somewhere.
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IntroverTurtle said:
Reverb_Shock said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Support the group by franchise suggestion, we can change the world.
Where do I sign up?
I think on the suggestions board somewhere.


That's a great idea. Grouping all anime by franchise rather than by individual season to prevent things like this from happening. This should also apply to other anime as well to make it fair.

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IntroverTurtle said:
Reverb_Shock said:
IntroverTurtle said:
Support the group by franchise suggestion, we can change the world.
Where do I sign up?
I think on the suggestions board somewhere.
If this happened everyone's list would get a lot shorter lol
Dec 28, 2013 6:06 PM

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SolBlade said:


That's a great idea. Grouping all anime by franchise rather than by individual season to prevent things like this from happening. This should also apply to other anime as well to make it fair.
Yes of course, all anime.

JD2411 said:
If this happened everyone's list would get a lot shorter lol
Well I'm talking about a mostly cosmetic change and mostly for the top anime page. Each series would still be the same size, but on the top anime page they would be represented as a franchise, so the Gintama Franchise would be one entry on the top anime page but each season would still have their own pages. And the score would be found by using the tv series score and not the ovas, specials, or movies. I was thinking of having it for the lists too though, it could shorten them a lot and keep some things near eachother(some seasons have different names which puts them in different parts of the list).


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NotJizzyHitler said:
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NotJizzyHitler said:
"Being a fan of something is like having a penis.
It's normal to have one and it's nice to be proud of it. But for the love of god, don't pull it out in public and don't wave it in other's faces."


I just feel like quoting this, from your own signature.
this has nothing to do with me liking gintama, this has to do with you being the 3rd damn person to post this type of thread in the past 12 hours, also all these types of threads are redundant regardless of the show its made for, we get these identical types fo threads every time anything gets a high ranking.

the moral of this story is STOP MAKING THESE TYPES OF THREADS


Why are you commenting so much in a thread you don't really care for?
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Dec 28, 2013 6:08 PM

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IntroverTurtle said:
This is genius and should be pursued further. Make it happen MAL.


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SolBlade said:
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How exactly do you know it's just fanboyism? If you haven't watched something, you can't know whether it's good or bad.

Personally I haven't watched Gintama and I don't have any desire to do so, however that doesn't mean I'm able to just make stupid assumptions about a series that actually does receive quite a bit of praise from not only hardcore fans of the series, but other people who've simply enjoyed it.


Why can't more people be like this guy?


I don't deny I made an assumption. I didn't go to extremes with my assumption, though, and you don't have to call my assumption "stupid". You can just politely state that actually I am wrong and that I should go watch the show. I find it offensive that you are calling my non-extreme attempt at explaining a phenomenon stupid.

With that said, maybe I will watch gintama in the future, with a high possibility that it will be to my liking.

Reverb_Shock said:
IntroverTurtle said:
This is genius and should be pursued further. Make it happen MAL.


Yes this is a really good suggestion. A part of a show can't really be rated separately. A better alternative is to rate the series as a whole.


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Dec 28, 2013 6:14 PM

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bunny_lover said:
I don't deny I made an assumption. I didn't go to extremes with my assumption, though, and you don't have to call my assumption "stupid". You can just politely state that actually I am wrong and that I should go watch the show. I find it offensive that you are calling my non-extreme attempt at explaining a phenomenon stupid.

With that said, maybe I will watch gintama in the future, with a high possibility that it will be to my liking.


It's offensive to claim anyone who likes something you don't (whether you dislike it or simply never experienced it) is 'fanboying' when saying they love it. You're essentially making a mockery of any opinion that doesn't coincide with yours at any given time, and that's more offensive than someone calling you a dipshit if you ask me.

You did not offer an opinion, you offered an attack on a group of people you don't agree with. There is a difference. "Sounds like fanboyism" is not an opinion, in fact there is nothing there that could be called an 'opinion', it's a blind smear against anyone who likes the series and nothing else - bait you posted knowingly.

Opinions are not assumptions about things you have no information on - "sounds like fanboyism" is a guess, an assumption, a shitty thing to say; not an opinion.

"This tastes like shit" is an opinion. "Whoever eats this sort of thing must be assholes" is not an opinion, it's a judgmental and ignorant generalization that is rather offensive.


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bunny_lover said:
Yes this is a really good suggestion. A part of a show can't really be rated separately. A better alternative is to rate the series as a whole.
I disagree, it's quite easy to rate different seasons of a show separately. I'm talking about purely as how it shows up on the top anime page.
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TallonKarrde23 said:
It's offensive to claim anyone who likes something you don't (whether you dislike it or simply never experienced it) is 'fanboying' when saying they love it. You're essentially making a mockery of any opinion that doesn't coincide with yours at any given time, and that's more offensive than someone calling you a dipshit if you ask me.

You did not offer an opinion, you offered an attack on a group of people you don't agree with. There is a difference. "Sounds like fanboyism" is not an opinion, in fact there is nothing there that could be called an 'opinion', it's a blind smear against anyone who likes the series and nothing else - bait you posted knowingly.

Opinions are not assumptions about things you have no information on - "sounds like fanboyism" is a guess, an assumption, a shitty thing to say; not an opinion.

"This tastes like shit" is an opinion. "Whoever eats this sort of thing must be assholes" is not an opinion, it's a judgmental and ignorant generalization that is rather offensive.


wait ... what.

how is being fanboy a insult?

I merely meant it as that there is a specific group of people who currently really loved Gintama. For example, if you call me a Code Geass or Clannad fanboy, I would gladly reply that yes, indeed I am.

Did I say in my original post that Gintama is bad? No
I just objectively stated that 4 gintama's in top 7, and therefore a specific group of people must really loved gintama series...

What's so hard to understand?


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Dec 28, 2013 6:22 PM

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bunny_lover said:


how is being fanboy a insult?

I merely meant it as that there is a specific group of people who currently really loved Gintama. For example, if you call me a Code Geass or Clannad fanboy, I would gladly reply that yes, indeed I am.


Backpedaling doesn't work so well on forums - the context you posted it in and the way you clearly meant it and continued to paint it after making that post is very clear.
Dec 28, 2013 6:23 PM

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Kuro_Kishi said:
at least Gintama doesn't have an 11/10 rating
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4181/Clannad:_After_Story/stats


Clannad's attempt at beating Gintama :P

Dec 28, 2013 6:24 PM

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TallonKarrde23 said:
bunny_lover said:


how is being fanboy a insult?

I merely meant it as that there is a specific group of people who currently really loved Gintama. For example, if you call me a Code Geass or Clannad fanboy, I would gladly reply that yes, indeed I am.


Backpedaling doesn't work so well on forums - the context you posted it in and the way you clearly meant it and continued to paint it after making that post is very clear.


Understand however you will. I will only say that I meant what I explained.

Edit: Maybe fanboyism is like a taboo word in anime community. I hear youtube reviewers (Arkada ex) use it to himself often enough that I take it that it can also have neutral meaning. Apparently not.

If you guys who are offended absolutely can't interpret the word "fanboyism" any other way, I apologize. I guess I won't use this word as thoughtlessly in the future.
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I love gintama, it's such a funny and exciting anime.
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Gintama:

Good anime? Yes
Mediocre? No
Masterpiece? Not at all
Flaws? Plenty
Fillers? A lot
Funny? Yes
Cliche? No, and maybe this is its biggest virtue
Deserve such a high score? No

I think a 8 would be more fair, but anyway, we already know how shitty is the MAL ranking, so there is no point in complaining.
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Jaguer91 said:
Gintama:

Good anime? Yes
Mediocre? No
Masterpiece? Not at all
Flaws? Plenty
Fillers? A lot
Funny? Yes
Cliche? No, and maybe this is its biggest virtue
Deserve such a high score? No

I think a 8 would be more fair, but anyway, we already know how shitty is the MAL ranking, so there is no point in complaining.


The ratings are ratings, Inferno Cop could be the top anime for all I care... wow, that would actually be pretty cool. Everyone give Inferno Cop a 10!

Part of what makes Gintama special is the fact that it doesn't take itself too seriously. Heck, it doesn't take itself seriously at all when you've got things like this or this. Some people like it more than others, it is to be expected.

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Started watching it about 4 days ago at episode 50 atm, it's very enjoyable.
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Just wait 5 years, the whole top 20 will be Gintama.
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SolBlade said:
Jaguer91 said:
Gintama:

Good anime? Yes
Mediocre? No
Masterpiece? Not at all
Flaws? Plenty
Fillers? A lot
Funny? Yes
Cliche? No, and maybe this is its biggest virtue
Deserve such a high score? No

I think a 8 would be more fair, but anyway, we already know how shitty is the MAL ranking, so there is no point in complaining.


The ratings are ratings, Inferno Cop could be the top anime for all I care... wow, that would actually be pretty cool. Everyone give Inferno Cop a 10!

Part of what makes Gintama special is the fact that it doesn't take itself too seriously. Heck, it doesn't take itself seriously at all when you've got things like this or this. Some people like it more than others, it is to be expected.

I guess most of the time Gintama doesn't take itself too serious, but sometimes it becomes serious and it can even make you cry like a bitch (I never cried, mainly because I don't have emotions, but I recognize it has some very sad scenes), like the death of certain people...
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SkyKyz said:
Started watching it about 4 days ago at episode 50 atm, it's very enjoyable.


Awesome! Glad you like it and got past the earlier episodes. And from where you are it only gets better.

samishime said:
Just wait 5 years, the whole top 20 will be Gintama.


It'll be beautiful.

Jaguer91 said:

I guess most of the time Gintama doesn't take itself too serious, but sometimes it becomes serious and it can even make you cry like a bitch (I never cried, mainly because I don't have emotions, but I recognize it has some very sad scenes), like the death of certain people...


I'll never forget the Yoshiwara arc... never thought Gintama of all anime could make me tear up.

Dec 28, 2013 7:14 PM

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I really need to start watching this series.
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A_Fat_Man said:
I really need to start watching this series.
have fun with a god awful start

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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honestly I don't know why there are 4 different gintama rankings, the 2nd ranking is actually the gintama movie which should be moved to the top movie list.

And to all the gintama haters: its your personal opinion and I have to respect that but imo I do believe that gintama earned its place in the top 100.
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if you care so much about the rankings I think you should just make a lot of accounts and rate gintama a 1 so you can sleep at night peacefully.
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Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
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honestly I don't know why there are 4 different gintama rankings, the 2nd ranking is actually the gintama movie which should be moved to the top movie list.

And to all the gintama haters: its your personal opinion and I have to respect that but imo I do believe that gintama earned its place in the top 100.
??? The top anime list has all series, ovas, specials, and movies. Even if something is in the top tv series, special, ova, movie list it's still in the top anime list.
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ibrahim2712 said:
Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
Most likely season 1 and season 2. I hate how Mal does that sometimes. I should just be able to add Birdy the Mighty Decode as one entry and that should represent both season 1 and season 2.
Dec 28, 2013 9:14 PM

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Never watched it; but voted "not too bad" just because there were 0 votes for that option. :(
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DrGeroCreation said:
ibrahim2712 said:
Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
Most likely season 1 and season 2. I hate how Mal does that sometimes. I should just be able to add Birdy the Mighty Decode as one entry and that should represent both season 1 and season 2.


Yea it makes no sense, because every anime has seasons. Even One Piece has like 9 seasons, but its no divided into 9 series. However Kuroko no Basket is divided into 2 different series.

Makes no sense whatsoever
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DrGeroCreation said:
ibrahim2712 said:
Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
Most likely season 1 and season 2. I hate how Mal does that sometimes. I should just be able to add Birdy the Mighty Decode as one entry and that should represent both season 1 and season 2.
No it's because Gintama's first series ended at 201 episodes and then came back like a year later with a new name Gintama', and then it came back later as Gintama Enchousen. Why would they ignore their real names and combine them?

And you don't even have both seasons added. And Birdy Decode's seasons were released almost one year apart and have different names too.

ibrahim2712 said:
Yea it makes no sense, because every anime has seasons. Even One Piece has like 9 seasons, but its no divided into 9 series. However Kuroko no Basket is divided into 2 different series.

Makes no sense whatsoever
One Piece never stopped airing and came back with a different name.


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ibrahim2712 said:
DrGeroCreation said:
ibrahim2712 said:
Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
Most likely season 1 and season 2. I hate how Mal does that sometimes. I should just be able to add Birdy the Mighty Decode as one entry and that should represent both season 1 and season 2.


Yea it makes no sense, because every anime has seasons. Even One Piece has like 9 seasons, but its no divided into 9. However Kuroko no Basket is divided into 2 different series.

Makes no sense whatsoever
Yeah I can understand OVAs and movies being separate entries but for shows with 2 seasons it should be just be one entry.
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ibrahim2712 said:
DrGeroCreation said:
ibrahim2712 said:
Why is Gintama divided into two series? On Crunchyroll its just one series...
Most likely season 1 and season 2. I hate how Mal does that sometimes. I should just be able to add Birdy the Mighty Decode as one entry and that should represent both season 1 and season 2.


Yea it makes no sense, because every anime has seasons. Even One Piece has like 9 seasons, but its no divided into 9 series. However Kuroko no Basket is divided into 2 different series.

Makes no sense whatsoever
That's because of airing dates. Look at Fate Zero; there's a 3-month gap between its 1st and 2nd seasons, which is why 2 different entries were made for it. Same goes for any other anime with gaps within its airing.
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And you don't even have both seasons added. And Birdy Decode's seasons were released almost one year apart and have different names too.
I didn't feel like adding both seasons as separate entries the same goes for Ah my Goddess. Birdy the Mighty Decode 2 even though it was released a year after still doesn't change the fact that it is just a season 2 of Birdy Decode.
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I swear these type of threads come up every time Gintama gets into the top 10. Do people really care that much about rankings? Scratch that, yes they do.
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@IntroverTurtle They just stuck a 2 after the title. Even Mal states it's a season 2 http://myanimelist.net/anime/5074/Tetsuwan_Birdy_Decode:02
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bunny_lover said:
First, I proclaim that I have never watched Gintama, so I don't know what kind of a show it is. However, it seems a bit much that 4 Gintama shows reside in MAL's top 7 anime shows. Smells like fanboyism to me.

Your opinion?

I haven't watched it either, but instead of asking for people's opinions about a show you never watched, just form your own opinion. Watch those 4 Gintama's to see if they're any good, and if you want, write some reviews about them.
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It's pretty good, but it's kinda overrated here, there are better comedies out there for sure (GTO and DMC to name 2) and it's annoying to see the same name repeated in 4 of the 10 spots, especially considering the top list is a good way to find great anime to watch, the reason I watched LOGH and Hajime no Ippo was because I saw them at the top list, I wouldn't even have known about them if it wasn't for it.

But hey! At least Gintama deserves to be in the top 10 more than Clannad, that one is the real overrated anime in the top list (it would have been good if it wasn't for that terrible and lame happy ending they pulled, my flame shield is ready btw)
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Posse said:
It's pretty good, but it's kinda overrated here, there are better comedies out there for sure (GTO and DMC to name 2) and it's annoying to see the same name repeated in 4 of the 10 spots, especially considering the top list is a good way to find great anime to watch, the reason I watched LOGH and Hajime no Ippo was because I saw them at the top list, I wouldn't even have known about them if it wasn't for it.

But hey! At least Gintama deserves to be in the top 10 more than Clannad, that one is the real overrated anime in the top list (it would have been good if it wasn't for that terrible and lame happy ending they pulled, my flame shield is ready btw)
not gonna bother.

As for the whether to combine different seasons into one title on MAL argument, my take is that it is better for the users to have a combined entry, even though it might be better in terms of data base to split into 2 season.
For example, code geass combined (50eps) is better for raters because neither season can form a whole story by itself. When we rate, we rate the entire story (hopefully), not just half of the story. Another example for this argument is Haruhi Suzumiya. Both seasons should definitely be a combined entry, as well as Kakumeiki Valvrave.

However, a practical difficulty may appear. If people only finished season 1 and not season 2, MAL system don't consider them actually finishing that series, so it is either categorized watching, on-hold, or dropped.


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Watched the first few episodes, never saw what all the hype was about. Might give it another shot later on. The biggest turn off for me is that length and the amount of remakes or ever the fuck all the other things are.
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