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Aug 29, 2013 5:42 PM
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Most anime will have Japanese characteristics, but what if that anime will have its scenario set into, let's say, USA? With American characteristics and so on?

People say anything made on Japan has to be considered an anime, but would that happen at those extreme cases?
Aug 29, 2013 5:43 PM
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Here we go again...
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Black Lagoon.
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Aug 29, 2013 5:43 PM
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If it fits MAL's guidelines then I consider it an anime.

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Black Lagoon.
It's still an anime with Japanese characteristics. The Japanese main character, dubbed in japanese, some of the character stuff and other things.
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Aug 29, 2013 5:44 PM
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There are plenty of anime that have a non-japanese setting.
Of course I will consider it to be anime.
Aug 29, 2013 5:45 PM
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If it fits MAL's guidelines then I consider it an Japanese anime.
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Aug 29, 2013 5:46 PM
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Aug 29, 2013 5:47 PM
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So, if Simpsons were made at Japan, it would be an anime?

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Aug 29, 2013 5:49 PM
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lupadim said:
So, if Simpsons were made at Japan, it would be an anime?

OBvio
If it were made by a Japanese company, yes.
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Aug 29, 2013 5:52 PM
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alot of 80's tv animations were animated in Japan like th e ninja turles was animated by Toei in teh main

hardly any tv animation form the us is animated there
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Aug 29, 2013 5:54 PM

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spice and wolf, baccano, helsing/ultimate and cowboy bebop have no japanese characteristics at all
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lupadim said:
So, if Simpsons were made at Japan


It is, it's called Gintama.
Aug 29, 2013 6:02 PM
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mattbenz99 said:
spice and wolf, baccano, helsing/ultimate and cowboy bebop have no japanese characteristics at all


90% of Fantasy anuthing has not direct coonaction to its ntioan of Oragin like say lord of the rings has no direct link or south africa [ were Tolken was born]
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Aug 29, 2013 7:28 PM

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What the hell is with the stupid thread. There are anime that takes place outside of Japan...
What the hell exactly is "Japanese characteristic"?

I don't get the point of arguing if a certain show is anime or not. Its kinda like the pronunciation of GIF argument.

Would it made the Simpsons any special if it was considered anime? No it wouldn't.
Would it matter if someone pronounced GIF with a G or with a J? Nope.
Aug 29, 2013 7:31 PM

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Xenoi said:
What the hell is with the stupid thread. There are anime that takes place outside of Japan...
What the hell exactly is "Japanese characteristic"?

I don't get the point of arguing if a certain show is anime or not. Its kinda like the pronunciation of GIF argument.

Would it made the Simpsons any special if it was considered anime? No it wouldn't.
Would it matter if someone pronounced GIF with a G or with a J? Nope.
Japanese humor, culture, language, tropes, etc I'm guessing.
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Aug 29, 2013 7:35 PM

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Here we go again...


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Aug 29, 2013 7:39 PM

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What's up people?

lupadim said:
Most anime will have Japanese characteristics, but what if that anime will have its scenario set into, let's say, USA? With American characteristics and so on??


The most interesting aspect of this question:

No Japanese studio can ever portray an American story and setting properly. Why? Because they don't understand squat about American culture. Yet, they seem to try, by which there's nothing wrong with that.

However, looking at the OP's avatar. Baccano was still interesting it is own right. If anyone watched this series in Japanese but not in English, they missed out the proper application of the New York accent in some of the main characters.

===

Anyways, here's a thought experiment to you "anime from Japan only" parrots:

How would you envision an "anime" version of Game of Thrones or Walking Dead? (If you want, choose another American live action show.)
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Aug 29, 2013 8:26 PM

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Yes. Of course that would make it american then. Likewise if it takes place in Europe (i.e. Monster is obviously german). Ancient Rome? Why Roman, of course. Moon? Lunarian and so on...
Aug 29, 2013 8:29 PM

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KyuuAL said:
Anyways, here's a thought experiment to you "anime from Japan only" parrots:

How would you envision an "anime" version of Game of Thrones or Walking Dead? (If you want, choose another American live action show.)
Like the Supernatural anime?
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Aug 29, 2013 9:31 PM

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lupadim said:
Most anime will have Japanese characteristics, but what if that anime will have its scenario set into, let's say, USA? With American characteristics and so on?

People say anything made on Japan has to be considered an anime, but would that happen at those extreme cases?
The setting of an anime doesn't change the fact that it was created in Japan.
Aug 29, 2013 9:43 PM

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there's many anime's that set into somewhere else than Japan like black lagoon or kuroshitsuji.. etc

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So, if Simpsons were made at Japan, it would be an anime?

OBvio


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Aug 30, 2013 10:26 AM

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Shingeki no Kyojin is a good example.

The majority of the characters are Westerners, only two Japanese appeared so far, and one is already dead.
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Aug 30, 2013 11:49 AM

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No. For me anime has to have a cerrtain feel to it something that makes me feel yep this is anime. If the animation feels like an american animation tough I personally wont consider it anime. Closest that comes to mind would be panties and stockings with garterbelt. That simply feels like an american cartoon with the same kind of toilet humor and I will consider it as such, a cartoon.
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KyuuAL said:
What's up people?

lupadim said:
Most anime will have Japanese characteristics, but what if that anime will have its scenario set into, let's say, USA? With American characteristics and so on??


The most interesting aspect of this question:

No Japanese studio can ever portray an American story and setting properly. Why? Because they don't understand squat about American culture. Yet, they seem to try, by which there's nothing wrong with that.

However, looking at the OP's avatar. Baccano was still interesting it is own right. If anyone watched this series in Japanese but not in English, they missed out the proper application of the New York accent in some of the main characters.

===

Anyways, here's a thought experiment to you "anime from Japan only" parrots:

How would you envision an "anime" version of Game of Thrones or Walking Dead? (If you want, choose another American live action show.)


the us cannot do any east asain setting right for he same reason MUaln is a big example
so much inaccuraies you cannot bevle both Cutral and historical

1 China woud not have been fighing the Huns at that time MUlan as a Rule is isa story based in late north song era the Huns were dead as a treh on any one and the Mongels were not a big thteart to any one for over 100 more years [ in asia that is ]


ad before oyu say what do you think that wall was biult that would have benn close to 1400 years old by the time and era MUlan should be set it being built in aaorund 200BCE
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
Aug 30, 2013 1:36 PM

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DateYutaka said:
KyuuAL said:
What's up people?

lupadim said:
Most anime will have Japanese characteristics, but what if that anime will have its scenario set into, let's say, USA? With American characteristics and so on??


The most interesting aspect of this question:

No Japanese studio can ever portray an American story and setting properly. Why? Because they don't understand squat about American culture. Yet, they seem to try, by which there's nothing wrong with that.

However, looking at the OP's avatar. Baccano was still interesting it is own right. If anyone watched this series in Japanese but not in English, they missed out the proper application of the New York accent in some of the main characters.

===

Anyways, here's a thought experiment to you "anime from Japan only" parrots:

How would you envision an "anime" version of Game of Thrones or Walking Dead? (If you want, choose another American live action show.)


the us cannot do any east asain setting right for he same reason MUaln is a big example
so much inaccuraies you cannot bevle both Cutral and historical

1 China woud not have been fighing the Huns at that time MUlan as a Rule is isa story based in late north song era the Huns were dead as a treh on any one and the Mongels were not a big thteart to any one for over 100 more years [ in asia that is ]


ad before oyu say what do you think that wall was biult that would have benn close to 1400 years old by the time and era MUlan should be set it being built in aaorund 200BCE
Dude, you're talking about a Disney adaptation. I don't think they ever stay accurate to any source, they make their own (kid) versions based on other works.

I'm not saying that what they do is bad, of course.
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