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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Good episode! Just one thing.........WTF is up with Yuuko? You don't leave your place to get someone and then go back to your abuser! Seems like a complexion problem of loneliness. Wanted to add: Congratulation to Yuuko and Yuu! YOU GUYS MADE IT SAFE! All the best in the new place and in LOVE!   Congratulation to Mizuki and picking up Kuze's violin and playing it!  Maybe more comments after subs. Good episode! Just one thing.........WTF is up with Yuuko? You don't leave your place to get someone and then go back to your abuser! Seems like a complexion problem of loneliness. king4k2 said: i think yuuko wanted to have moar sex with amamiya, i mean who would resist the sexy amamiya stud muffin. n mizuki n kuze is becoming more closer i guess. p.s. himura is fckin weak. wut a pussy. cant kill or hit amamiya but hit his own best friend that helped him n yuko. wut a faggot Nice sarcasm but dude, real life your words would just make want to kill the sensei more and more important I don't think I would talk to you if that is the way you would take this in real life. Now I know this is an anime but sorry your stud muffin I would put in pieces and eat him up. YES I would be cannibal just to show to Yuuko and telling her I ate the monster who abused her. Perhaps I am extreme but so was the sensei. I would become something not even a animal is worthy of to kill sensei for Yuko since I saw #6 and know the SOBs little secrets! WATCHED RAW a second time! I am so addicted to this art form especially after seeing the pics of people! QUESTIONS TO ALL! 1. WTF is the reason of Yuuko blushing upon seeing Amamiya sensei? That is weird how can anyone even do that to a abuser that MADE YOU LOSE YOU VIRGINITY! I capitalize that cause losing the virginity is something very precious to girls. 2. Why did Yuu not kill Amamiya sensei yet? He was right in front of him. Another thing is that it was supposed to be Amamiya sensei killing Yuu cause he Amamiya sensei sensei said himself that next time he will kill Yuu in #7. 3. Can someone please analyze the artistic pic I took from the episode and tell me What The Hell is the meaning? I am looking forward to all response as I am curious myself.  I THANK ALL who take the time to explain me anime! |
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slayer545 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Good episode! Just one thing.........WTF is up with Yuuko? You don't leave your place to get someone and then go back to your abuser! Seems like a complexion problem of loneliness. i think yuuko wanted to have moar sex with amamiya, i mean who would resist the sexy amamiya stud muffin. n mizuki n kuze is becoming more closer i guess. p.s. himura is fckin weak. wut a pussy. cant kill or hit amamiya but hit his own best friend that helped him n yuko. wut a faggot |
ejm0 said: That was a great episode, i can't wait for next week. slightly of topic, did anybody download the coalguys sub. during the opening credits, there was a penis shooting semen at the words. i don't know if this is some kind of joke or something, I just wanted to know if anybody else noticed that. i could post a picture, if somebody tells me how to do that. Yeah I saw that >.> It throw away all the epicness of this opening, Coalguys FTL. |
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ejm0 said: That was a great episode, i can't wait for next week. slightly of topic, did anybody download the coalguys sub. during the opening credits, there was a penis shooting semen at the words. i don't know if this is some kind of joke or something, I just wanted to know if anybody else noticed that. i could post a picture, if somebody tells me how to do that. Must be a stupid joke. I saw something like this in their comments http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=173598 They have bad humor tastes! Terrible joking if it is like that. When will people learn about certain things? |
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| Didn't Amamiya say it before, that Yuuko is afraid of being alone , then it would all make sense |
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dragonshade said: Didn't Amamiya say it before, that Yuuko is afraid of being alone , then it would all make sense Yes perhaps but Yuuko should have never gone out alone even if she was worried about Yuu. I think that Yuu should either brought with him Yuuko or not leave her side. He made the mistake of leaving her alone again! Actually I noticed it too when I went through it again. I will delete this version when another comes out. That is just bad taste! Plain and simple. |
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| I really started orzing when Yuuko left the aparment, and ran into that evil abuser. D: As others have mentioned, Yuu shouldn't have left her alone -.- |
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| When i thought that everything went right, they have to change it. great episode, i always like these give up everything for your love setting. It looks like the true happiness. |
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ejm0 said: That was a great episode, i can't wait for next week. slightly of topic, did anybody download the coalguys sub. during the opening credits, there was a penis shooting semen at the words. i don't know if this is some kind of joke or something, I just wanted to know if anybody else noticed that. i could post a picture, if somebody tells me how to do that. This episode was actually perfect. It would have been if not for that stupid fucking 'joke' the subbers made. That almost completely ruined the whole episode. That aside, I'm looking forward to episode 9, and I'm also hoping for more Kuze/Mizuki development. Hopefully, that stupid joke won't be made again. Ever. |
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ejm0 said: slightly of topic, did anybody download the coalguys sub. during the opening credits, there was a penis shooting semen at the words. i don't know if this is some kind of joke or something, I just wanted to know if anybody else noticed that. I guess it's a joke, but a very bad and tasteless one -__- something like this is to be expected from such a 'coal' group though. I don't know why the hell they're subbing this if their level of respect for the show is so low as to use the 'funny' karaoke effect. It's not like there aren't other groups subbing ef. As for the episode itself, I liked it a lot, although it still needs more Kuze/Mizuki. The Yuu/Yuuko part wasn't surprising, but was brilliantly done. Well of course Yuuko will go back to Amamiya! After all, she's got nowhere else to go. I don't know why you would be surprised by her going back, especially after episode 6. Yuu shouldn't have let Amamiya provoke him like this >__< especially after promising Yuuko that he'd never leave her. Back to the opening though, it's the only thing in the episode I didn't like. The ep. 6 opening was a very nice touch and made a good impact, but they should've gone back to the regular one afterwards. It's a bit disappointing now with the last two episodes being inverted and flipped and whatever :/ |
| yea that joke was completely unnecessary, i will probably download a different version and rewatch the episode so i can get the mood back, great episode other than the OP like all u mentioned, can't wait for 9! |
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| Considering that the episodes have been pretty Yuuko-centric as of late, and the way this episode ended, i think the next 2 episodes will be the pretty Mizuki/Kuze-centric... this is their chance to win us back. |
| I really enjoyed this episode :) The red rain in the beginning definitely set the mood and tone for me. Not to mention Himura willing to give everything up for Yuuko was extremely sweet. I loved Yuuko's new look (nice to see something besides the uniform) while 'living' with Himura - and I was pleased that she was finally accepting the fact that he does love her. Ah, they make the cutest couple. Although, I'm really pissed that Yuuko went back to Amamiya - darn, Yuu shouldn't have left her like that even though he was troubled~ Nonetheless, I love Yuu & Yuuko's story! Kuze and Mizuki's story is also making progress - however I think I'm more interested in Kuze. He was really uncertain about his feelings, but it was nice that he was thinking of Mizuki in a pleasant way. But he was still an asshole for saying what he did to Himura... Strange - younger Himura and older Himura seem incredibly different to me... Anyways, probably my favorite episode of ef - a tale of melodies :) Can't wait for the next one - I don't believe there's only 4 episodes left... |
| Somehow, I keep getting this dreadful feeling that Yuuko is going to die and the Yuuko in the present is just her supernatural holy form? Someone, tell me I'm wrong. |
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Annisa said: Somehow, I keep getting this dreadful feeling that Yuuko is going to die and the Yuuko in the present is just her supernatural holy form? Someone, tell me I'm wrong. All I want to say regarding Yuuko is that I hope that she does not die no matter what. |
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| I'm not here to defend the OP karaoke by CoalGuys, but personally I really didn't care. The song is in English so I could already understand the lyrics and it's not like I sing along with the opening every week. Sure it was in bad taste (not just given the series, but in general), but I don't think detrimental to the mood of the series, just to the subbers' reputation. As for the episode itself, it annoys me Yuu didn't run home to check if Yuuko was alright. Sensei did get into the apartment and I assume she doesn't leave it that often. What if Sensei went Ike Turner on her in their apartment? But I guess that doesn't help progress a story. Otherwise, good episode. |
ironchefflip said: As for the episode itself, it annoys me Yuu didn't run home to check if Yuuko was alright. Sensei did get into the apartment and I assume she doesn't leave it that often. What if Sensei went Ike Turner on her in their apartment? But I guess that doesn't help progress a story. Otherwise, good episode. agree with this. really nice episode otehrwise. |
| I didn't really liked this episode as the previous ones and I guess that's because there's so much of Yuu x Yuuko. I like them, but a bit too much now... Anyhow, the only thing that actually was surprising me, was Yuu [present] saying that things aren't over with Yuuko yet. Okay, we saw Yuuko in the church in Melodies, but I really do think that she's a supernatural appearance... Yes, I think it would have been nice if she were still alive, but I don't think so. It would make it les dramatic. Aww, there's still a chance for Mizuki x Kuze! Waai ^.^ 3/5 this time. Didn't see a real nice scene or anything... |
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| This is an absolutely awesome anime.. Never have the characters been worked out so deeply. These who do not understand why Yuuko/Yuu/Amamiya/Kuze/Mizuki/... act the way they do.. Hm. Well, I don't know what to suggest. Maybe try to perceive it less logically, more with feelings. Yuuko, Yuu, Amamiya all act this way because of something which happened to them in the past. You shouldn't judge them by yourselves :) Rather try to understand what made them act so. As for Yuuko, you can't say her brother means nothing to her: he is her family, family is something which never goes away. Perhaps, she has some, hm.. strange feelings, something like love to him, as he is the only person with whom she does it. Yes, he is a terrible person. But he himself is understandable: he lost his sister and it so happened that he gloomed over it so much that many other things lost meaning to him, so he didn't take into account public morals, etc., well, yes, you can call that a psychic disorder. Yuu was probably just affected by Amamiya's words, which were too cleverly harsh, and yes.. He is going to blame himself for not being able to withstand them for a long long time. Kuze is a person who always wears a mask, not just time to time. But Mizuki is able to see that inside, he is a very admirable, nice, pure-hearted person, and herself being a girl of very pure heart, firstly, she is lovable, secondly, she might cure Kuze's turmoil.. Probably, not his medical condition, but at least he might change to being a very good person, and able to love her genuinely.. Looking forward to that. This series is truly an essence of heart. Wonder if I should add it to favorites and keep it there.. |
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Orb said: This is an absolutely awesome anime.. Never have the characters been worked out so deeply. These who do not understand why Yuuko/Yuu/Amamiya/Kuze/Mizuki/... act the way they do.. Hm. Well, I don't know what to suggest. Maybe try to perceive it less logically, more with feelings. Yuuko, Yuu, Amamiya all act this way because of something which happened to them in the past. You shouldn't judge them by yourselves :) Rather try to understand what made them act so. As for Yuuko, you can't say her brother means nothing to her: he is her family, family is something which never goes away. Perhaps, she has some, hm.. strange feelings, something like love to him, as he is the only person with whom she does it. Yes, he is a terrible person. But he himself is understandable: he lost his sister and it so happened that he gloomed over it so much that many other things lost meaning to him, so he didn't take into account public morals, etc., well, yes, you can call that a psychic disorder. Yuu was probably just affected by Amamiya's words, which were too cleverly harsh, and yes.. He is going to blame himself for not being able to withstand them for a long long time. Kuze is a person who always wears a mask, not just time to time. But Mizuki is able to see that inside, he is a very admirable, nice, pure-hearted person, and herself being a girl of very pure heart, firstly, she is lovable, secondly, she might cure Kuze's turmoil.. Probably, not his medical condition, but at least he might change to being a very good person, and able to love her genuinely.. Looking forward to that. This series is truly an essence of heart. Wonder if I should add it to favorites and keep it there.. I like your analyzing but one comment I have is I think you are being way too passive over Amamiya sensei. If I told a friend and let me tell you I did, he wanted to kill the guy. I had to tell him that it was anime (hence not a real person). Maybe he was too drunk? Anyways that guy Amamiya you think GOD will do something? As soon people would find out about this he would be like Freddy Kruger in Nightmare on Elm street, burned! I tell I get your point but I think it's too soft on the SOB sensei |
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| I loved this episode, mainly because we get to find out that Kuze really does care for Mizuki. I really hope he doesn't die because he plays the violin too beautifully. T_T The TeacherxYuukoxYuu situation left me like this O_o, which I really disliked because Yuuko and Yuu are my current favorite couple. I hope this series has a happy ending. |
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| Nooo Yuko, why did you return to that monster ;_; btw. very nice Episode, I'm looking forward to the next epi. |
| Don't know if anyone has seen the CoolGuys Sub but it had a disturbing way of showing the lyrics of the opening :S |
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mEdiApAcK said: Nooo Yuko, why did you return to that monster ;_; btw. very nice Episode, I'm looking forward to the next epi. yess! yuko baka! |
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| ef - a tale of memories - The world is upside down. :P Damn, that was a awesome episode. Kuze is a real idiot. :/ The new ending is great. |
| Almost feel like I need to rewatch that, a lot to take in on both sides of the story. Yuu and Yuuko running away reminded me a lot of Saikano, but then again the story of every couple running away is usually pretty much the same. Now when those two were in the shrine was it supposed to imply that they had sex, personally it doesn't seem likely but I don't really know what they were going for. Amamiya saying that all Yuu does is run away may be correct but sometimes running away is the best option. If he tried to save his sister they both probably would've died and since he ran away with Yuuko it's like he's trying to atone for his sister dying in the past. Kuze seems to be putting all of the blame for his condition on Mizuki even though like most cases if your life sucks it's your own fault. Like an angst filled teenager he decides to take it out on Yuu and Nagi by bringing up painful things from their past just to get them as pissed as him. He brings up that Yuuko can't be seen anymore, maybe in the present she's some kind of spirit or something which would explain why she appears in both Japan and Australia, and also her sudden disappearances. New ending has some Canon in it, rather peaceful. |
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| This episode was far less interesting story-wise and the direction dropped since last ep too. But still a good one I guess. |
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| Sigh, this episode had a heart-warming start, but guess it was too good.. |
| I find it rather amusing how people can keep making offhanded remarks concerning the subject melodies covers. While it is fiction, these things do happen in the reality you and I live in... Well with that out of the way (and hopefully the trolls)... Yet another great episode of melodies! I had chills watching Yuuko go into a near nervous and mental breakdown as she desperately try to find Yuu, her 'Oniichan', or anyone to be with her, her "Oniichan" was especially powerful, props to the Seiyu. I was hoping that she would run into Yuu, the music even encouraged such an outcome! But alas, she ended up running to the very last yet the very person she wanted to meet. Then the ending played showing exactly why Yuuko accompanied the man who abused her. Then the rest of the episode, showing the 'scraps' if you will. While it just looked like your average development of the Mizuki arc, therein a scene that ties together the Yuuko/Mizuki arc. That scene will play a pivotal, if not the most important development of both melodies and memories. The event that started it all so to speak. Well to sum up...here is a 'spoiler' for those who are still skeptical about some things... Read at your own risk, but you should already know what's going to happen anyway... @slayer545 I'll take a shot... #1 - That's not really blushing, hell she was 'blushing' from having a normal conversation with Yuu without any romantic implications to it. Maybe it was from the emotional roller coaster of it all as she desperately tried to find Yuu all over the town left her flushed? #2 - Wakame gave him some good advice and that is not to act based on your emotions and not to make impulse decisions. Think things clearly and think of the consequences of your actions. While Wakame is just scum, he did give great advice to a rather brash, teenage Yuu. Also, I think that Wakame was disgusted at how half-hearted Yuu was in confronting him, hence a little 'motivation' so to speak. #3 - Go re-watch the ending theme again in its entirety. Notice the background, Yuuko herself, and how that ball of light glows so brightly against the dark background. I'm not that good with all the imagery ef throws around, but that is pretty self explanatory man... |
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| I must say that that Amamiya-sensei is one conniving bastard. It's like he's taking pleasure in torturing others. |
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PimpToad said: @slayer545 I'll take a shot... #1 - That's not really blushing, hell she was 'blushing' from having a normal conversation with Yuu without any romantic implications to it. Maybe it was from the emotional roller coaster of it all as she desperately tried to find Yuu all over the town left her flushed? #2 - Wakame gave him some good advice and that is not to act based on your emotions and not to make impulse decisions. Think things clearly and think of the consequences of your actions. While Wakame is just scum, he did give great advice to a rather brash, teenage Yuu. Also, I think that Wakame was disgusted at how half-hearted Yuu was in confronting him, hence a little 'motivation' so to speak. #3 - Go re-watch the ending theme again in its entirety. Notice the background, Yuuko herself, and how that ball of light glows so brightly against the dark background. I'm not that good with all the imagery ef throws around, but that is pretty self explanatory man... Thanks for answering the questions. It helps! :) |
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| yuu is really weak minded.. i was like wtf? he doesnt seem to get it that amamiya is only using words to crush his mind.. and guess what? HE GOT CRUSHED.. and because of that yuuko lost her trust and thought he abandon her which he DIDNT (i think) cause he was just drenched in self pity for his sister.. and to my surprise... yuuko when back... WTF!? |
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| Nice episode. Although if it were a little less angsty, it'd work for me better. I understand that the theme is sad and hearbreaking but honestly, the angst NEVER goes away. The impact would be bigger if they stopped giving us 'unique' rain scenes every episode :/ |
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| Man, Yu is so gullible he falls for anything! Nice episode though, it was nice to see them attempting a new start. |
| Im rather late here, but nevertheless: Great episode! PeanutSteak said: ... Kuze seems to be putting all of the blame for his condition on Mizuki even though like most cases if your life sucks it's your own fault. Like an angst filled teenager he decides to take it out on Yuu and Nagi by bringing up painful things from their past just to get them as pissed as him... Personally I dont think he is trying to get Yuu and Nagi angry just because he wants them to feel as angry and desperate as he feels himself. I think he is still following his plan to alienate all his friends in order to die without causing too much pain! |
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| Awh, Yuuko. I really liked this episode, but damn Amamiya for using such powerful words. I can't argue with why Yuuko would return to him, it's completely understandable. Sadly though of course. As soon as I saw Amamiya though, and Yuuko approaching him, my mouth dropped and I thought "oh noez...don't do it...don't do it," oh too late. Oh goodness and when Yuu slapped her, oh I got pretty pissed. I mean...I was thinking she'd fall off the cliff or something, roflpie. Kuze over here flipping out. & I actually really like Nagi, more and more with every screen time she gets <3 w00t w00t. |
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| Fuck, noooo. Amamiya you bastard ;__; |
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| Oh god, this is so messed up. T___T Just like the upside down, colorless OP. |
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| Just when we thought that Yuuko x Hiruma was going to be fine *bang* we're hit with another set of events but seems that Mizuka x Kuze could take a step forward soon. |
| If yuuko just waited a liiitttle londer at home, none of that would've happened. |
| Wtf.. Thats about all I can say atm lol. The part which confuses me the most is the fact that Himura is still mourning Yuuko in the present for some reason. That means she must be alive and somewhere very far away from him, if she was dead then I don't understand why he still thinks he can see her. I just hope they don't make the ending too supernaturally (i.e. ghosts, reincarnation, a mass miracle, etc). |
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| No I won't say again that the blu-ray version kicks ass..... THE BLU-RAY VERSION KICKS ASS! Dammit... Nothiced this:  asdfg brand TV Love this pic  Oh and Amamiya-sensei's still a fucktard. plzgodie |
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| Yuu slaps Yuko. Good. After all he did for her, she has no right to kill herself. Yuu trapped in Amamiya's senseless bull. Typical. Yuko leaves with Amamiya? WTF? It wouldn't hurt to wait a few more minutes for her lover to show up. Kuze. I feel for the guy. Oh and.. Does Mizuki lacks tear ducts or what? |
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| Hmm, if I'm supposed to be feeling sorry for Yuuko at this point, ef is failing hard. Even if she was abused by Amamiya, her blaming Himura for everything and being mad at him for having other things on his mind just...makes it hard to sympathize. The ending where she returned to Amamiya was also a huge wallbanger. I mean...what the heck? Just wait until he's home then antagonize him or something. Where was Yuuko when Amamiya broke in, anyway? This show would be lucky to get a 6/10 from me at this point. |
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