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Jul 12, 2012 2:10 PM

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confuser987 said:
Finally watched the last episode with subs. Question time now!
What was the floating fortress called again?( i forgot :X) And what was it used for?
Why couldn't the tomoguras and flame hazes sit down and talk and have diplomatic relationships?
Heck they have shana and yuji who actually know each other and would reason with one and another.

So Yuji could be one of our great successful Anime gods now like Lelouch Lamprouch and Haruhi Suzumiya. Or even better, Yuji is still alive and is finally in a relationship with the girl he loves.

What happens in the Light Novel after Xandus is created?


dont compare master lulu to that yuji.. yujis plan can be done by simple diplomat and why it came to a senseless war(as what shana said if he could just said it from the beginning..) ?? which means his tactical strategy is far from master lulu.. all hail lelouch..

from the beginning of the season they show us that tomogara are a bad guys but in the end of the season looks like they are the good guys and the flame haze are the bad ones because of stopping yuji's plan..

Jul 19, 2012 3:21 PM

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season 3 was confusing... though the end made some things clear. Anyway, does anyone else here care about the death of kashim? he was like my fav char, and they exactly made him die -.- ahh this feeling... no more sns ever.. T_T
Jul 26, 2012 5:55 PM

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Sakai Yuji was a human before all this started. He had family, friends, school, life and ambitions. Shana, a flame haze appears in front of him and they spend a couple of years (what 4 or 5 years together?) together. After everything was wrapped up, and everyone went to Xanadu, why did he choose to go to Xanadu with her??

He basically choose for his parents, and friends to forget that he ever existed. Near the end, when Shana and Yuji kiss, Yoshida Kazumi is just IGNORED. WOW! Kazumi and Shana compete for Sakai's heart, in almost all of season 2 and part of season 1. It was very disappointing to see her alone.

That was just wrong. A more fulfilling ending would have been for them to stay in Misaki city (like how Margery Daw stayed behind), that way, life would have continued normally and Kazumi would have also been given a fair chance. (I know Ike-kun showed some interest in Kazumi, but it still doesn't seem right for her to be cut off like that).

If not that, he should have stayed back for his parent's sake. Think about it. They raised him for so many years, they taught and helped him, and were kind parents. Now I agree that his parents had a baby girl, but STILL! Loosing a son and not even knowing about it, that's terrible!

Ike-kun, Ogata-chan, and everyone else from Misaki High, wouldn't know Shana and Yuji even existed.

That's why I completely disagree with the ending. It could have definitely been better!
Some other points that I read from other members that I agree on:-
- Final fight between Yuji and Shana. Very one-sided. They made Yuji look very weak. He didn't change in strength at all in the series, still being defeated by Shana. a.k.a what changed?
- 20+ episodes of NONSENSE fighting! Shana disagrees about making Xanadu, and then finally agrees and goes TO XANADU with Yuji.....pfft....lame.

Please don't get me wrong. I LOVED season 1, 2 as well as the OVA (Shakugan no Shana S), but Season 3 was plain wrong. It could have been done a lot better. I am very disappointed by Shakugan no Shana Final. It didn't provide much closure.

If you're still with me, thank you for reading! Just stating my opinions on the final season and final episode of Shakugan no Shana. Agree with me? Disagree with me? Let me know! I hope you guys have an awesome day!


I have several reasons to disagree with this post. But before that, let me say my opinion on Sakai Yuji, He was about to make it to my Top Idiots and Most Hated List, and that includes Suzaku from Code Geass. In the end, he redeemed himself by staying with Shana.

Now, to get on to the main part of the post.

1. Sakai Yuji did not decide to "Go with her." Yuji wanted to go to the new world in the first place, to persuade the Flame Haze, Tomogara, and Humans to co-exist with eachother. Yuji only accepted Shana as a companion after their whole lovers battle and confession.

2. Kazumi, a fair chance? It was decided in Season 2, she never had a fair chance at the point of Season 3. Season 2 already pointed out that Yuji chose Shana rather than Kazumi.

3. He accepted his fate, and that was it. Even though the feeling of being forgotten by your parents is one of the most scariest things ever, Yuji still excepted that. Staying close to his "original" parents would have just made Yuji's life harder and harder. And interacting with Misaki City as a whole makes it even more harder for Yuji. Besides that, Yuji had another mission, and that was to forsee the co-existence of the 3 Species, not to mention their was also the Heir of the 2 Worlds to look after.

4. YUJI WAS WEAK AT THE START! If he never had the confidence to tell the truth to Shana, then you could tell he was weak. Compare Yuji to Saito, and Saito's even more stronger than Yuji. In fact, if Yuji never had such strong ambitions and the aid of the God of Creation he would have already failed.

5. The Flame Haze only disagreed with the New World because (a. There was a past rumor on what such an event caused) and (b. They then learned that the actual cause of such the drastic event was the unbalance of the world because the power of the existence were turned into unstable energy sources. The Flame Haze then agreed with the New World as long as no humans were killed for energy. And the Tomogara agreed because their was an infinite energy source in the world so they could live forever without getting energy from Humans. The War was necessary to realize this, not to mention the appearence of the Guiding God and the birth of the Heir of the 2 Worlds were two important factors. Without Kazumi's involvement in this War, the Heir would never have been born, the Guiding God would have never appeared, and the God of Creation would have used all his power so that the new world would allow the eating of humans.

After reading all of the comments these are the opinions I have formed. And that was my reply to your post. Now I would like to say my goodbyes to this Series.

First of all, I loved Shana, First, because she was one of the 4 Great Tsundere Wonders, second, her x3 Urasai was one of the most cutest besides when Aria Holmes said Urasai, and Third, she is indeniably Moe when she eats Melon Cake.
After Taiga, Shana happens to be one of my favorited character of all times, and it's sad to see such a great girl and series go.
I would also like to thank J.C. Staff, the studio that created the 4 Tsundere Wonders, managed to regain their reputation after creating past failures of anime.
That said, I think J.C. Staff was probably one of the only Studios that could ever bring Shana to what she is now.
And to this, my Final Goodbye to such a good series.
You will be missed, Shakugan no Shana, and will be one great prime example for future animes and Tsunderes until another takes your place.
Forever a Fanboy.

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Aug 14, 2012 6:11 PM

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They actually managed to give it a nice ending, after that convoluted story and that war..

There were a lot of stupid scenes, especailly about this war, but it does make sense mostly. The people saying they should have talked are right, it would have solved in 5 minutes if they would have talked and agreed on that simple rule so to say, but it wasn't possible, at least for Tomogora and Flame Haze.

The biggest chance of solving this peacefully would have been Yuji convincing Shana, and she convinces the other Flame Haze. I am sure that if not only Shana, but the God of Atonment, Alastor, agree on it, the other Flame Haze would seriously think about accepting it.

Shana could have easily explained it to the old nun, and if she agreed, the others would so, too. The obscure HQ (we never were told who actually is leading them, they only ever speak of "HQ", but not of persons or at least the actual form of government) maybe not, but it's not like they care about what HQ thinks.

It had to be this way because Yuji didn't want to take the risk of Shana not agreeing. Some scenes like Yuji/the snake explaining "there is no need to fight, there never was" and stuff like that while his Tomogora butcher the retreating Flame Haze are amazingly stupid, but generally, the war made sense.

Shahers role was a bit weird. It was important for the story if her broadcast was what made the Tomogora accept the rule to not it humans, and it might play a role in the future, about accepting the child of Johann and Pheles, but besides this, it's not much. A bit weird to have a character always around (Rofocale) and introducing a full blown Crimson God only for this.

Also interesting how the Yoshida hate ebbed over time, especially in the late episodes of Season 3, despite nothing having changed. I liked her all the time.

Oh, and when the ending song started to play, i was near tears. It's simply beatiful, fit the scene, and the ending was kinda sad, despite Yuji and Shana finally being together and the new world being safe.
Aug 14, 2012 8:50 PM

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Brilliant ending!!

I was so happy when they finally got together!

Will probably expand on my thoughts later, it's 4am, just one question; now that Yuji is no longer a torch, does that mean he only has a human's life - say another 70 years- left?
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Aug 15, 2012 6:39 PM
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season 1 and 2 were both 8 for me but this? Clear 10, perfect plot twist, perfect battles, perfect ending.
Aug 21, 2012 11:19 AM
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I'd been holding this off for awhile and SnS is one of the shows that got me into anime... but wow this season is just really bad 1-2-3 it went into a descending order really quick oh well I guess I
Aug 26, 2012 1:37 PM
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I really loved the ending, well, at least that much how I could love an ending which ends my favourite season forever T.T

But anyway, I don't get why this war is considered "meaningless". I mean, the original plan of Xanadu, without this "Tomogara may not eat humans"-thingy wouldn't have been accepted by the Flame Hazes, would it? I consider it meaningless from the point that the Tomogara accept this change, but before that it all makes perfect sense to me. Also why Yuji leaves human world - I guess it's just not possible for him and Shana to live in this world normally. I mean, Shana is immortal and stuff...
Aug 31, 2012 8:56 PM
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Very very nice ending. Really gonna miss this show.. Shana forever


Sep 7, 2012 10:58 AM
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Great ending, middle was little hard to follow at times, for me. Didn't enjoy it as much as the 1st season though

7/10
Sep 12, 2012 10:48 PM
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Just finished watching the series and I think it was great! Yuji turning into a bad guy really made a twist to the story, I think it was a unique plot.

What I don't understand is why so many people keep saying the fights were unnecessary and pointless.. I also thought they were unnecessary but not pointless. Not everything can be settled with talks and compromise especially when one or both party is stubborn.

If Yuji just explained everything in the beginning then everything would have been ok, but if he did that then that wouldn't have been Sakai Yuji cause that wasn't his personality.

Though I have to agree that the whole season was mostly battles, anyone who does not enjoy watching war movies or shows that involved in depth strategic planning of war would get bored.

For the final fight I thought it was just hilarious. It just one big lovers quarrel. Shana won because shana was pissed, Yuji lost the god of creation, and Yuji wasn't fighting seriously.

Again I thought it was a great ending. Though I wish there was more. There's so much more they could do with it. I want to see Xanadu, with the tomogara's, flame haze's and humans living together.I want to see how Yuji is going to make that happen. Etc.
Sep 13, 2012 10:09 PM

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thank god this thing ended, this series went downhill after the first season.

and this by far was the worst, they tried to put everything into 24 episodes and that's not enough, and obviously the result was a complete mess.

still, I'll miss this anime
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Sep 23, 2012 4:55 AM

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I didn't like this season as much as I originally thought I would. I thought the fighting lasted far too long and the romance aspect wasn't as satisfying as it could have been.
Sep 23, 2012 11:32 AM
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Thatsjustpeachy said:
Really wish they didn't make Yuji so weak, id call it epic if it wasnt so one sided. Did he not try? Did he lose all of SoF's powers? Did he want her to defeat him as punishment for what he did? I thought he retains some powers in the novels. Otherwise, very satisfying ending, going to be leaving a huge void now that ZnT and SnS are done.

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honestly, i got tricked by what i thought was foreshadowing earlier in the season, when yoshida was talkin to Khamsin an he told her the story of his past instead of talkin about the hougu she had etc


gave the season itself an 8, it was decent over all, woulda knocked it down if they half assed the ending, tho there was alot going on in the last 2 eps... felt kinda like a stampede lol woulda given it a 9, if it wasnt for things like having big strong "bad guys" (i put it in quotes since it seems this seasons theme was to show the almost human side of the tomogara) being taken out in 5 seconds flat, an things of that nature

enjoyed the show as a whole, personally felt the end of s2 was a good enough of an ending, but didnt mind s3 that much, an still ended well, even if i wanted to strangle yuji on more than one occassion lol (and not just this season)


ihateuimeanit said:
Just watched it (hated it at episode 20, but then you know haha) and FML! I hate this feeling of finishing a series :(
Nevertheless, it was a top notched series, also loved it how they finally kiss.
Oh and haha didn't you love it when they started playing the first OP?
If there will ever be a sequel (probably not) it'll revolve around uhh that baby!
Oh well, Sayonara Shana and Yuji, you two have entertained me for a week


i like the fact the last few shows ive been watching, have gone back an played their original OP on the epilogue of the final episode, it just, makes it complete, a full circle, and kind of nostalgic in a way when its a long series :P


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Sakai Yuji was a human before all this started. He had family, friends, school, life and ambitions. Shana, a flame haze appears in front of him and they spend a couple of years (what 4 or 5 years together?) together. After everything was wrapped up, and everyone went to Xanadu, why did he choose to go to Xanadu with her??

He was human, but he is not anymore. And he isn't aging (so is Shana). I think it'll be more painful for him and others if he stay in real world.



He basically choose for his parents, and friends to forget that he ever existed. Near the end, when Shana and Yuji kiss, Yoshida Kazumi is just IGNORED. WOW! Kazumi and Shana compete for Sakai's heart, in almost all of season 2 and part of season 1. It was very disappointing to see her alone.

Basically Yoshida lost in episode 4 when Yuji kidnapped Shana (also in episode 3 it was said that he is in love with Shana).



- Final fight between Yuji and Shana. Very one-sided. They made Yuji look very weak. He didn't change in strength at all in the series, still being defeated by Shana. a.k.a what changed?

God of Creation and his powers/knowledge left him. Without it he is no match for Shana.


lets also not forget that he also lost the ability to sense existances when johan left him, so at this point, he probably cant sense that killing blow anymore that he trained to learn to sense, so thats 2 things he lost before the last fight
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Yuji was the good guy, even if he killed many, flame haze were only tools of war, they only fight and fight, Yuji created a world where the guze no tomogara that were discriminated and unnacepted could live in piece and flame haze could live without fighting. He wanted to punish himself for killing so many people in the process wich shows how much his intentions were pure. Great story and ending.

The only thing i don't understand is that in the end he turned back human losing his imortallity from reiji maigo, i think, and shana will remain imortal as a flame haze.
Oct 9, 2012 9:29 PM

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Welp, when my friend recommended this series to me 1 year ago i procrastinated thinking it would be no good, or just some other mediocre anime. After i finally started watching season 1 i quickly realized i was completely WRONG i instantly loved the series, everything about it, the Openings, music, characters plot, romance, everything. Skipping forward a little bit me and my friend learned that there would be a third season and that it was airing soon, I couldn't contain my excitement, every week was a complete joy and awesome experience, I stopped watching the series around episode 16 however, because i realized that i really didn't want the series to end, Yes looking back on it that logic was sort of childish but that's how i felt, that if i didn't finish the series the magic would never end for me, my friend who had recommended the series to me to begin with urged me to complete it but i was stubborn, it went on like that for a couple of months until today where i finally gained the resolve to finish this amazing series, and now after finally watching the ending and waiting 78 episodes for that kiss, the wait seems worth it, but as i suspected. I am overwhelmingly said about the fact that this anime has ended because i was so invested in this series, I wish they would at least do an OVA for a sort of epilouge for Xanadu even one episode would be just fine. Btw i'm sorry for making this so long i just had to put what i felt wrote down while it was still intense, This anime is one of my all time favorites and will remain so long into the future, I will be re-watching some time in the near future make no doubt of that, this series get's a 10/10 from me, Long Live Shakugan No Shana!!! You gave your fans what they were looking for, My thanks goes out to J.C Staff for handling this amazingly beautiful series to the very end.
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Oct 25, 2012 11:06 PM

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Holy shit, this anime dragged on for AGES. I am not impressed at all.
SnS was my very first "real" anime (I don't count Pokemon), and I fell in love after the first 5 minutes of the very first episode. Season 1 was absolutely phenomenal, Season 2 was rather iffy, and Season 3 was a complete dissapointment.

They just dragged it on for SOOOO long, and because they tried to keep the anime "happy", no real sacrifices were made. By the end of the anime, I didn't even know what they were fighting for anymore.

I am dissapointed - this series had a lot of potential. I will just pretend that Seasons 2 and 3 don't exist, and the ending is Season 1 where Shana sacrifices herself to save Yuji.
Oct 29, 2012 2:34 AM

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Indulg3 said:
Holy shit, this anime dragged on for AGES. I am not impressed at all.
SnS was my very first "real" anime (I don't count Pokemon), and I fell in love after the first 5 minutes of the very first episode. Season 1 was absolutely phenomenal, Season 2 was rather iffy, and Season 3 was a complete dissapointment.

They just dragged it on for SOOOO long, and because they tried to keep the anime "happy", no real sacrifices were made. By the end of the anime, I didn't even know what they were fighting for anymore.

I am dissapointed - this series had a lot of potential. I will just pretend that Seasons 2 and 3 don't exist, and the ending is Season 1 where Shana sacrifices herself to save Yuji.


Pretty much how I felt for the third season. If they cut this season down to 13 episodes, it would been a lot better but majority of the episodes involve the final fight.
Nov 15, 2012 10:04 PM

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This anime along with Zero no Tsukaima is fucking awesome! epic ending holy shit

Yuji lost the battle to Shana at the end it suck but w/e lol

They finally smooch...no tongue action ugh >_>

TAKE THAT YOSHIDA! how you like them apples!
Nov 24, 2012 2:05 PM

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1st and 2nd season were great but this one killed it
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Dec 13, 2012 8:34 PM
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I don't think ive ever facepalmed so hard watching an episode ever. I swear i left a dent in my face because of how hard I facepalmed.
Dec 25, 2012 7:29 AM
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The level of epicness in the last episode is too damn high!!! I wish they would make another season which takes places after all this has happened, how Yuji and Shana start living together and how Justus grows up. I'm sure they could make up some more bad guys.
Jan 2, 2013 9:42 AM
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So I just finished it now, wow. What can I say. This season was definitely the best and you know I'm just speechless. Kiss scene was solid as well.
5/5

-On a side note I think my favourite character must have been Rebecca
Jan 4, 2013 8:50 PM
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Ok, I read through a lot of this, but I still don't understand this last season.

The big thing in this anime was that Xanadu, a PERFECT copy of Earth would be created for the Tomogara to live. THis was Sakai's plan to save the humans and free the Hazes of their burden. If Xanadu was a perfect copy, then what were the tomogara going to use for power in the new world? Probably humans... so that wouldn't have solved anything.

I think the point was to separate Flame Hazes and Tomogara, but the tomogara would have probably eaten the humans in the new world, and this was proven when Shana added the new Law, that they coudln't eat humans, and the Tomogaras were pissed at first. So again, Sakai new this from the beginning and didn't care.

Meaning of Sakais final goal was to go to a world with Tomogara without Hazes, just so he could convince them not to eat humans, he would have been sorely outnumbered. He should have and Season 1 and 2 Sakai probably would have, asked Shana and the Flmae Hazes to stop the pointless fightning and try to make peace in his current world, since the Flame Hazes went to the new world anyway.

So pretty much all this season did was crate a new world, send almost all the Flame Hazes and Tomogara to the new world, cept in this world the Tomogara cant eat humans. So I don't udnerstand why they need to Flame Hazes there, they wanted to be separated from the Hazes, that was the point!

Pretty much from the beginning the Flame Hazes heard this plan, and said im gonna kill all the Tomogara I can, change the laws of their world, then go live with them in their new world. DOESN"T make sense. Flame Hazes just want to kill I guess, which makes their organization the bad guys.

Poor Kazumi... And what was the point of not having a Misaki City in the new world? Where did Sakais resolve come from, there is no reason for it! And why did Sydonay have to die at the end, I guess he wanted to go with Hecate?

I know this is all jumbled, but there's jsut so much wrong with this last season.
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The level of epicness in the last episode is too damn high!!! I wish they would make another season which takes places after all this has happened, how Yuji and Shana start living together and how Justus grows up. I'm sure they could make up some more bad guys.


sooo true, this is one of my favourite anime and i'm going to miss it..
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Damn it all!!
I should have never watch this anime! Why you may ask... Because I hate this feeling when I finish an epic anime/manga/LN and there is nothing more! This emptiness!
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Damn!!


Feb 9, 2013 1:54 PM

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I guess enough has been said regarding the ending of the show. Personally I would join the ranks of those who do not completely get the whole concept of war between Flame Hazes and Denizens since Snake of Festival's plan turned out quite well (I can agree that no one could be sure whether it would have brought unbalance to the world or not, also some adjustments were needed as far as Denizens eating humans issue is concerned but still I am not convinced if the loss of so many causualties on both sides were needed). Nonetheless, I did like several things presented in this season: the whole idea of Snake of Festival, a god whose only objective and supposedly a reason of existence was to grant wishes of his followers. To me it's very similar to the concept of Christian God who loves all mankind unconditionally (or at least it is told so to us, please do not comment on this matter); a deity so powerful that does not demand any form of worship nor expects anything being done for him but rather does anything for others regardless of what it may be. Granting wishes and making everyone happy is not childish, it's rather inconceivable, something a god is supposed to act like. Second of all, I enjoyed Yuuji's yearning for atonement, it was such a manly thing to commit evil for everyone's sake, sentence yourself to a punishment accordingly to what one did (or even harsher!) in order to be worthy of one's woman love :) And last not least, the definition of love, seeking wisdom from your partner, to correct one's mistakes yet never to abandon because of them; definitely my favourite scene when Shana says what love means to her and then how Yuuji tells her that in reality he exactly expects from her the same thing.

Also a very big request: does anyone here can tell me what the piano piece in the beginning of the episode is called? Answer will be enormously appreciated.
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Since this is technically the end of the entire series, I might as well wrap my entire thoughts here as well:

I fell in love with Shakugan no Shana the moment I saw the finale of season 2 (which was my first episode). My curiosity then drove me to watch the entire series from the beginning.

Other than shoddy pacing issues and Yuji being a bit too dense, season 1 was terrific and I was hooked. I loved the catchy names for the characters and the fact that there were so many unique aspects to the universe. Often times Fantasy shows like to make up a lot of words and it was confusing at first, but I really enjoyed it once I got into it.

Season 2 kinda took things downhill in the beginning because half of the season was about Konoe (who's not really even in the novel IIRC). However, when that second half picked up, I was pumped again and I feel that it had a pretty good resolve. It felt good to watch the finale again after I'd caught up to that point.

Then came Season 3 (after a few nice OVAs!). All I can say is "what happened?". I love Shana and will always be a fan, but something happened in Season 3 that just made it border on boring. I didn't like how Yuji became a completely different person, and the concept of him changing sides could have been told way better. The bad guys should have had him on a leash as opposed to him being their master. I also felt that there were way too many new characters introduced and there was no time to develop any of them. On top of this, the music dropped in quality and Shana had matured incredibly fast.

But even with all of these issues I had, there were several parts of season 3 that I liked. I of course loved the ending, and the fact that Yoshida finally got the finger (does ANYONE like her at all?). It felt more adventures because they left Mizaki City, which was a welcomed change to me. I thought it was cool that Shana lost her powers for a bit, and I really enjoyed seeing her in a lot more action because she just looks incredible in battle. I'm also one who actually liked the all-out battles (the latter 2) and I thought it gave the series some long overdue action. It was just the issue of why they were fighting and why it had to be so long that bothered me. Also, when did denizens suddenly become lizards and birds?

Shakugan no Shana will always be my favorite anime because of the universe, main characters, and soundtrack. However, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't expecting more out of the finale.
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Why the fuck did they kill Sydonay?

And the Flame Haze followed them to Xanadu? OMG, what the hell was the point of the war then? The same thing is going to happen over there.

The whole plan was to separate Tomogara from Flame Haze/Humans.
Feb 20, 2013 6:38 PM

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The ending was terrible lol, made the whole season seem useless. DAT KISS DOE.

8/10
Feb 22, 2013 3:30 PM
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This proves only one thing for me. The japanese are absolutely terrible at endings. I dread to think of what Naruto ending is like but I bet it is disappointing like this one too.

I mean the whole fighting was for nothing really.
Mar 10, 2013 11:01 AM

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Perfect ending ending im gonna miss this series.
Mar 16, 2013 4:12 AM

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So it ended.I am happy but sad too.I wish i could watch more of their adventures,but i guess everithing must come to an end.
Mar 21, 2013 2:04 AM

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Yuji was the good guy, even if he killed many, flame haze were only tools of war, they only fight and fight, Yuji created a world where the guze no tomogara that were discriminated and unnacepted could live in piece and flame haze could live without fighting. He wanted to punish himself for killing so many people in the process wich shows how much his intentions were pure. Great story and ending.

The only thing i don't understand is that in the end he turned back human losing his imortallity from reiji maigo, i think, and shana will remain imortal as a flame haze.


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coolxal said:
Why the fuck did they kill Sydonay?

And the Flame Haze followed them to Xanadu? OMG, what the hell was the point of the war then? The same thing is going to happen over there.

The whole plan was to separate Tomogara from Flame Haze/Humans.


i bet this time Hazes went with them to guide them in that new world, but yes it makes no sense really
Apr 4, 2013 2:16 AM
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Ehhhh..... This whole series over all was pretty alright I guess. 8.5 overall for the whole series.

I didnt quite understand how Yuuji became the commander and what not it left my head blank but that ending was alright.

Could have of been better... well still 8.5/10 for all Seasons.
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Well, gotta admit, this was the best season of the 3.
But to be honest, there was too many unnecessary fighting. Xanadu would be a paradise for the Denizens and bring peace to the world. Why were the Flame Hazes against this in the first place?
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shadowdogg said:
This proves only one thing for me. The japanese are absolutely terrible at endings. I dread to think of what Naruto ending is like but I bet it is disappointing like this one too.

I mean the whole fighting was for nothing really.


Couldn't agree more with you
Apr 11, 2013 7:41 PM

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Well, gotta admit, this was the best season of the 3.
But to be honest, there was too many unnecessary fighting. Xanadu would be a paradise for the Denizens and bring peace to the world. Why were the Flame Hazes against this in the first place?


They were against this new world because humans would still be eaten, but they tried creating this law to be put in place so that humans wouldn't be devoured. In the end the spell didn't work of course, but the Tomogara wished for a world where they wouldn't devour also and live in peace. The Flame haze eventually went over to Xanadu some staying in the other world. As we can see Sophie, Margery some of other people Sophie were talking to on the phone also.

Anywyas, I actually loved the overall series of all 3 seasons. Despite this season being rated lower than the rest, I liked it more. 9/10
Apr 11, 2013 9:04 PM
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Yeah, I didn't really get the last season.. He was about to choose a girlfriend and I was ready to see who he chose, but we'll never know!

Also, Sakai was saying he is creating a new world and they are leaving to go there in the middle of the fight, he said the Flame Hazes no longer have a reason to fight, so they got scared and ran away, yet why didn't Sakai tell his army to stand down? The Tomogara were still killing the Flame Hazes right in front of Sakai as he was saying the fighting is pointless and he wants it to end.
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Yeah, I didn't really get the last season.. He was about to choose a girlfriend and I was ready to see who he chose, but we'll never know!

Also, Sakai was saying he is creating a new world and they are leaving to go there in the middle of the fight, he said the Flame Hazes no longer have a reason to fight, so they got scared and ran away, yet why didn't Sakai tell his army to stand down? The Tomogara were still killing the Flame Hazes right in front of Sakai as he was saying the fighting is pointless and he wants it to end.


Even if he did, the Flame Haze would still slaughter them.
Apr 12, 2013 5:29 AM

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This was a good one. I'm going to miss it so much
Apr 26, 2013 4:07 PM

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Well... It was okay. Despite watching it with a Friend who is a Shanacon, with lots of alcohol and other stuff I wasn't quite convinced about this anime as a whole. Guess 7/10 is a fair thing especially since I am not in fond with those types of anime - slice of life hidden beneath swords, flame and other weirdos.
Oh, special mention to Marco. He is so op. Actually made me to watch the 3 series in a weekend. Props to Him. And Yoshida boobs. And Margery... And... Well You know where it is going.
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I really didn't want Shana or ZnT to end for me so I put off watching the final seasons for over a year...Now that I've seen them though, I couldn't have been more happy about the endings.
Shana III left me confused for 3/4's of the series, but once I understood everything it was really cool noticing the little bits of action in the previous seasons that provided for the foundation of everything in the third. Wish there were a bit more flame hazes being introduced in the second though...it was a bit too slice of life I think to serve as a prequel to the third.
Overall though, damn, it's been a long ride and I'm glad that I was able to come across a series as good as Shana. I know there probably won't be, but it'd be great if there'd be an ova or movie about what's happening in Xanadu.
May 29, 2013 12:26 AM

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Ok somebody tell me what was the point of sending the denizen to the other world if the flame hazes are going to follow them. The whole shana and yuji conflict was enjoyable in this season but the rest was dumb. Well at least the animation in the fights where pretty awesome to watch but somebody please tell me what was solve in the end?
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The ending was satisfactory for me as i didn't like the idea of yuji turning into an anti hero in the first place. I understand that as the main character of the series he had to achieve something by himself so people wouldn't say that he was dependent on shana all the time, but somehow i got really pissed off seeing him as evil. All that said, the final episode was the redeeming point, it tied most of the loose ends. I have only one regret, somehow i wanted yuji and shana to live in misaki city together and yuji reunited with his family and friends. I suppose that was too much to ask. Overall good ending.
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I only started watching the Shakugan no Shana in 2010, and didn't get to finishing the third season until just now. This third season was definitely lots better than the other seasons.
I found the fight to be taking too much screen time for many episodes long and I would have preferred that they added a bit more to this final episode, it felt rushed which could have been avoided.
I just wanted to see a bit more what the new world looks like, maybe some epilogue like thingy if only for a few minutes, they didn't really show much during the ending sequence.
All in all I simply enjoyed this series so much, it's a sad moment that it came to an end.
Jun 27, 2013 6:37 AM
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In terms of closure, I like how the spell that turned Yuji into a real existence is the same spell that Friagne in S1 was going to use to give real existence to Marianne. All that was needed to activate the spell was a city-level amount of existence and... love. Friagne loved Marianne and in the end, Yuji admitted that he loved Shana (sort of, since HE DID NOT ACTUALLY SAY THE WORD LOVE wtf you wimp). And maybe the kiss is needed as well. Man, was Friagne planning to french his doll to activate the spell? I find it interesting that Yuji and Friagne both did evil things for love.

I suspect that Friagne's existence spell has always resided in the Azure ring that Yuji took from him and wasn't a new spell that Lamies added to it. Lamies did hint at this in S3 by telling Yuji that the ring reminds him how strange fate is. And back in S1E6's final fight with Friagne, when Shana was unconscious, Friagne's ring was for some reason active, perhaps getting ready for the existence spell or even involved in taking existence from Yuji.

In this final episode, Lamies probably just made the spell ready for activation and didn't even change the conditions for its activation. Lamies may be the only one that knew of that Yuji's real motivations were because of his love of Shana (they must have had some private talks) and thus knew that the conditions are close to be in place for the spell's trigger.

In all, this was a good episode (compared to some of the mindless episodes before) and took care of some closure, though I'm still miffed that Yuji is still so utterly clueless or reserved regarding love. In the novels, does he admit he finally loves Shana or does he also lamely copy Shana confession?

EDIT: From novel translation at baka-tsuki, Yuji does a much better job of expressing his feelings. Yes, he says the L word a few times in a very bold and romantic statement.
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So the restoration spell only affects Misaki City and no where else in the world? So Junko, the girl from the third S-OVA who lived in Yosegi City, will remain dead? Sad.
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I watched this series because a friend recommended it to me... apparently because he likes Rie Kugimiya a lot and I enjoyed Toradora.
Ok... so I enjoyed season 1, got sort of bored with season 2... and really struggled to understand anything in season 3.

Seriously, I'm not a fan of spoonfeeding but there's a limit to what you can keep without explaining. A good adaptation should be able to stand on its own without making you feel compelled to read the novels, although it is interesting when they leave SOME things in the dark in case you WANT to read the source material, but this feels more like on-disc DLC. So many new characters, spells, items, and terms were crammed all at once with so little explanation that I was constantly checking info on the shakugan wiki... just try to do that without reading spoilers by accident. Perhaps if the second season had been adapted differently then they could have taken the time to introduce and develop all that information more decently. Even some the few (mandatory) explanations felt cryptic at best, I don't know if that's the way the author wanted it to be in the novels or if I just watched a bad translation (not likely since everything I checked on the wiki matched).

With all that being said, I don't think the overall plot was bad. The idea of a "bad Yuji" and a full-on war was interesting to see, I just think the author wasn't able to come up with legitimate reasons to motivate the characters. I mean WTF flame hazes, it really seemed they were just making up reasons to stop the creation of Xanadu. If anything, this season made the tomogaras look like the victims when in fact they kill humans to survive, you can't retroactively change that. I found most of the war arc development interesting, but I found the season end was really flawed. It seemed to me that Shana and Yuji had communication problems and everybody else just got caught in the middle of their season-long argument, and that made the entire season sort of pointless. I would complain about how anticlimactic it was for Yoshida to use her wish and not die... but since she behaved like a time bomb from season 2 I guess her dying would be too obvious. She ended up impacting the plot significantly but not in the way I expected. Props to the author for all that.

Also I found a few things from the last episode a bit mind-boggling. Why did the Flame Haze move to Xanadu in the end? Was it to keep the tomogaras in check in the new world? It's like they just went to start a new war, because I can't believe they would suddenly befriend the tomogaras, despite what Kazumi and Willhelmina said. Also, why would you make humans in the new world? If the tomogaras had "learned" to live alongside humans then they wouldn't eat them ._. Also, if tomogaras aren't allowed to eat humans in Xanadu, how do they get power of existence? I know the power is infinite there, so I'm guessing they could just get it from the air or something, but still that wouldn't explain why the flame haze AND Yuji trust them so little that they decide to go and keep and eye on them. The only thing I liked from the ending was that final battle and that Yuji and Shana ended up together in their own tsundere way... and that's about it.

I don't have complaints animation or music-wise, I think that was satisfactory or awesome for the most part.
3/5 for the episode, Shana and Yuji's resolution was mostly the only thing worth watching. Also Justus.
7/10 overall for me, because the plot and pace were dynamic enough to keep me watching, and because Yoshida's death would've been too obvious. It could've easily been at least a 9 with better execution and a better ending.
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